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you heard me fish bitch! you're not slick. pisces is like that. stupidly antagonistic. is it a water sign thing?

the reality is, i'm tired of trying to figure this shit out from behind the scenes. got some psycho twat following me around a forum like one of michael vick's puppies. it's interesting and all. nice play time but seriously, why keep coming back?

satori, you say you like it but you hate the negative energy. why come back? there are plenty of forums, plenty of astrology forums, active ones. why THIS one?
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regardless of whether it changes, regardless of whether the people change, some of the exchanges are vile. and i don't mean, call you out your name vile. i mean, someone shares something personal on a thread....which is why many of us come here, and that personal confession/desire for help is used against them.

i suppose it's why so many people delete their accounts and i wonder if that's part of the draw? the fact that you can erase your history *just like that*? on most forums, once you say it, you can delete your account and the shit you said remains.
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ian, it's taken me this long because i thought i would be able to figure it out simply by being a member and the reality is, the longer you're a member, the weirder some of you mofos are.

on the whole, cool peeps. but then you take the coolest person in the world and you find out that they had some beef with some twat back in august 08 and the cool mofo turns into a loon too.

is everyone here crazy? is that the draw?
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and satori, i can see the good. it's communal, it can be fun, for the most part folks are nice and congenial. this is true.

maybe because i've never seen such rank backstabbing that i find it peculiar. i mean, in like 5 months i've learned that you don't trust ANYONE on this site...with NOTHING! not even your favorite ice-cream.

where one should be wary of the internet as a hole, i've never seen so many two-faced people in my life in one place. and that doesn't speak for the larger group. it's just that there are SO many in such a small group of regulars.
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lmao, i meant "as a Whole" but "as a HOLE" sounds much better after watching that aussie comic TOC posted.

and yeah satori, i am provocative but i'm this way in real life so that's not for your entertainment. that's all me. BUT...

if someone told me something personal, i would never use it against them in the way the some have. and i'm not talking about one person in particular. more than one actually.

if i make fun of someone and it JUST HAPPENS to be true, it just happens to be true. i was f'in around. once i know the real deal, i won't do it anymore. here, once you know the real deal, you put it on blast and the folks that do it, relish in it.
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aye MsP.

and nah satori, trust me. there is something unique about this site. in the past, it was pretty easy to figure out. like igot it within about 2-3 months. this one...hell, i don't know wtf is going on. it's frustrating and intriguing.

like, there are some people i like. and i will continue to come back to the site to "for" in a sense because they are enjoyable. they're e-friends...whatever that means.

but then there are others who...i dunno, again, i haven't figured it out yet. it's just uber-negative and not in a good way. "good" being sarcastic for me. some people can't stand sarcasm but this site goes beyond it at times. it's like one waterfall of PMS.
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OH! and that's what i find intriguing.

normally, when there's this much venom on a site, members fall by the wayside and that's true of this site too. i'm sure this batch of users will be replaced by a new batch in 2-3 years. sure, some long standing members will remain but others will move on....for whatever reason.

what i find interesting though is HOW LONG many of you stay. it's not "normal." you may think it is, but it's not. i bet some of you will end up being members of this site longer than you were active members on myspace and that says more than you can imagine.
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The number one thing that irks me about this site is the complaining about drama. Its like everyone wants to pretend the world is better off when people are holding hands singing that stupid song...How boring would that be?! I mean, there's a time and place for it, but I fucking love the drama. I'll be the first to admit it. Granted, I can bore of it easily, but its what keeps most coming back..whether they'd like to admit it or not.

I totally respect those that are genuinely not interested in it (and you can tell who those people are)...its the ones who pretend to be saints, yet ALWAYS manage to find a way to feed into the drama, all the while complaining about how much they can't stand it, that annoy me. Just keep it funky, for goodnesssake.
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"what i find interesting though is HOW LONG many of you stay. it's not "normal." you may think it is, but it's not. i bet some of you will end up being members of this site longer than you were active members on myspace and that says more than you can imagine."


I think you're on to something..


This place really does start to feel like a family in many ways...it sounds cheesy, but it does in a strange way.


There are many vets on here who have been here since 02 i believe. I have never posted on a chat site or whatever the hell these things are called, yet once I started here, I haven't really looked back. I think the same goes for many. Then a lot of people leave for a while and come back..sometimes months, sometimes years even, but mostly just weeks, as they can't hold out for much longer than that 😛


As I said though, I think the user friendliness is the main reason. I've seen some of the other sites and the way they are setup is such a turn off. This makes it so easy to communicate, and thus, want to actually come back to continue doing so.


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MsP, maybe that's it!

you know how some people looked at clinton/bush/obama/palin and chose sides? during the bush era, you had cindy shehan and code pink protesting outside of the presidents home...HIS HOME! obama has the tea party protestors.

what has always intrigued me about group dynamics is not the leader. i.e. hitler was a captivating speaker. what is more interesting to me is the follower.

why did we go to war in iraq?

why did black folks overwhelming vote for a black candidate?

why do so man people hear fall in line?

as i said, if i could bottle it....wow!
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MsP, the school assignment thing wouldn't surprise me. technically, the site is some shit. have any of you asked yourselves why the front page content
NEVER changes? this is a violation of web-101 and yet, no one seems to care or notice. for me however, fascinating.

simplicity works in a lot of ways. look at myspace. seriously, go to myspace and look at it. design wise, it's ugly. it's violates every parameter of web design and yet, virtually everyone around the world with an internet connection has had a page at some point in time.

so yeah satori, not having moderation is helpful but i think it's bigger than that. you have sites where the moderators are lazy, there's no moderation and there is low activity. this one however, the owners don't have to do shit.

i'm not sure what it takes to get booted but apparently, it helps to have a bunch of members complaining and whining...only for the booted member to rejoin.
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Tubby, I would love to delve into this much deeper with you, but I really hate trying to articulately express myself through this form of writing. Its so much easier for me to have an actual conversation about stuff I really enjoy talking about. I avoid many convos here that I find interesting for this reason...don't feel like typing it all out.

But yea, I'm definitely intrigued by all this. I love studying human nature, and this site is a great example of many the many facets of it.

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lol, MsP no worries. i'm one martini shy of putting on a lampshade and dancing naked.

overall, as an outsider who doesn't know anyone's history, i get the familial aspect and that's obvious to me. i get that for the most part, people like OCCASIONAL drama but for the most part, enjoy helping and learning about one another. that's the "normal" part of human nature.

but underneath all that is an ugliness that i would like to explore/understand and frustratingly, it's taking longer than i thought. but i'm a taurus, i shall see it through to the end and hopefully make some friends in the process. i already have 🙂

with that said, some of yall are saints cause good or bad, i would've left this shit a long time ago. stupidity is my weakness and i'm trying to stick it out but it's becoming increasingly difficult. not sure how you two...and i do mean you TWO do it.
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"i'm not sure what it takes to get booted but apparently, it helps to have a bunch of members complaining and whining...only for the booted member to rejoin."

The person/people in charge rarely step in. They do a good job of letting us hash out our shit on our own. If he does step in, its usually pretty fair. I KNOW he has opinions, favorites, etc., but he's really objective when it comes to moderating.


God would I love to talk with whoever is in charge...I would love to know what he thinks about the dynamics of this place.
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"but underneath all that is an ugliness that i would like to explore/understand and frustratingly, it's taking longer than i thought."


What exactly do you mean tho? Are you talking about the seemingly deep seated issues between some of the members, or an ugliness in general? I'm a little confused as to what is so interesting to you about this, as I don't think this 'ugliness' is anything out of the norm.


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"I'm personally a ridiculously slow typer (and I work on a computer all day!) and the words I want to use never come to me in time! I am really jealous of people with large vocabularies who speak and write well. I actually read a lot and know what the words mean when I read them but when I want to say something the words don't come to me. I'm working on it."


This is why I love you Satori, because you ALWAYS say the same shit I'm thinking! This is my problem EXACTLY! lol except, I can type pretty quickly 😛
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the owner is think, "f' u, pay me!"

rarely do sites need to be moderated because yeah, the drama works itself out. it's not as if anyone here is threatening to kill anyone else. although, some members need to be careful of how personal they get. it's one thing to talk shit generally, when you start using specifics, i think you walk a fine line. that's how that young girl in new england i believe ended up hanging herself. it wasn't that she was being bullied on the net. it was that the bullies knew PERSONAL details about her. the mother and daughter bully team kept throwing personal shit in that young girls face and she hung herself.

shy of that, being aware of things like that, the moderator need not step in. people getting their feelings hurt was never enough for me to intervene. i mean i had members wanting me to ban other members because the person was gay/lesbian. f' them haters.

so at the end of the day, i hate to have a good/bad list but ironically, a lot of the people some of you hate, i like.
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Posted by satori
Please don't ever go, Tubby. This place needs you. 😉

God would I love to talk with whoever is in charge...I would love to know what he thinks about the dynamics of this place.

Me too, MsP.!




I think DXP probably wants to talk to certain users for the same reason, but I doubt he ever would. He does a good job of keeping the interactions professional..atleast that I know of.
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Posted by MsPisces.
"but underneath all that is an ugliness that i would like to explore/understand and frustratingly, it's taking longer than i thought."


What exactly do you mean tho? Are you talking about the seemingly deep seated issues between some of the members, or an ugliness in general? I'm a little confused as to what is so interesting to you about this, as I don't think this 'ugliness' is anything out of the norm.





i stumbled upon a recent thread that shall remain nameless and in the process of reading it i was like OMG!, why?

it's had to know what's going on but i know that i have said some personal thing regarding my relationships, nothing that i'm ashamed of, and to have someone rub it in my face as if i should be ashamed....why?

most people come to this site because they're seeking help/answers. sometimes you gotta pimp smack them into reality but once they've faced reality, why drag them back down in the mud?

what kind of sick person does that? you're doing better, feeling better so i'm going remind you of things long past? is it because their lives are miserable?
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i'm not ashamed. i feel like i'm about to crack a fuckin code and own all of adobe's products...for free!

and thanks satori. i do enjoy being here...obviously. but right now for example, i should be writing to meet deadlines not shooting the shit with yall. BUT i am learning a lot and i sincerely appreciate your both taking time to explain...with or without lightening fast typing skills.
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"i stumbled upon a recent thread that shall remain nameless"


Why does it have to remain nameless? Thats another thing I don't get...when people get all anonymous when it comes to discussing stuff like this. Unless you're protecting a persons privacy, I don't get why people don't like mentioning names, threads, etc. on here. This part isn't directed at you Tubb, but for example, someone will be talking shit about a person and say, "you're an evil bitch. do you remember that time you told that girl to go fuck herself"...and the person says, "You're lying! what girl did I say that to?!?!" and they'll respond with, "I'm not mentioning any names...you KNOW who I'm talking about"

Its like ugghhh just fucking say the name. Its not a secret if they said it in public for all to see. God, I hate that lol Evasiveness.
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"Once I saw Duncan expose a user who had posted under numerous screenames pretending to be totally different people. That's the most I've seen him use his power before."


With that Taurus girl, right? Can't think of her name. I saw that too, but I wasn't able to figure out what it exactly meant. I'm not sure I agreed with the majority on that one...it just didn't make sense.
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Posted by satori
😉 MsP.

And yeah, maybe duncan just wants to get paid but I wonder what it's like being privy to all the info in everyone's pm's, for instance. 😛

Once I saw Duncan expose a user who had posted under numerous screenames pretending to be totally different people. That's the most I've seen him use his power before.





i dont think you have to worry. unless this is his primary source of income...which i'd be surprised if it is, webmasters don't have the time and energy to be consumed by members. it may start off that way but once a site grows, you keep your tried and true close and the rest are just "ants marching." interesting to watch but don't get too deeply invested because you have to remain objective.

i would LOVE to see the moderator intervene. that's be so e-HOT! but i'm a nerd so odd things excite me.
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"what kind of sick person does that? you're doing better, feeling better so i'm going remind you of things long past? is it because their lives are miserable?"


Who knows, but its something I see all time. At the end of the day, I don't really feel sorry for anyone that happens to. You gotta be willing to own whatever you say here. Treat this place like the real world. Pretend you can't trust anyone, that way nothing you say can never be used against you.
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ok Ms.P...ian's not here and i didn't want to halt my learning process by rehashing shit between you two.

eden's thread called "eden"...because she's narcissistic, i didn't get to read the whole thing. i read the first page. saw that it had a lot of posts and curiosity got the better of me so i checked the last page. well, i see ian posting old msgs between you and he and i'm like, wtf is that supposed to prove?

and what got me about it is simply, if i PM someone, i am going out on a limb there. there are folks here and on other sites that are cool as shit, but in terms of giving out my email/messenger, not everyone gets that. i think it's like walking up to a stranger and introducing yourself.

now if you get to a point where you have a rapport and are friendly, for someone to violate that trust is the most underhanded, vile thing a person can do. on the internet or not...wtf does that?

to me, that was the saddest moment i witnessed on this site and it made me want to abandon this project altogether.
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nah MsP, i don't agree. being able to do something and doing it are two different things. maybe it's because i'm not a fake person here or anywhere?

in all seriousity, if i'm PMing you on the regular, i trust you. and where i wouldn't give a shit if you did post what i said to you in private, WTF are you posting what i said in private?

in real life, i have friends that say shit about one another and i don't rat them out. if i know telling something is going to hurt another person or embarrass them, i don't make that knowledge public. but people do it here.

and that means, they're hiding behind a computer. now if they/you do that in real life. ok, you're being your authentic self. they/you are probably someone i wouldn't trust shit with in the first place 🙂 but the point is, IF i did, wow! talk about being brand new.
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Really, Tubbs? That shit was nothing compared to some of the stuff that happens here! lol


I was just pissed that the messages could have easily been taken out of context, but other than that, it is what it is. Most of what I say in PMs, I've said on the boards.. I have no problem posting every PM I've ever exchanged here for all to see, except I wouldn't do it to protect the other persons privacy.

Although I would never do what Ian did, no matter the circumstance simply because it's just not my style , its not that big a deal to me.
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MsP and that is the point! trust me. i read it and i was like, so uhm...where's the smoking gun? in the end, it made him look more foolish than anything...at least to me. so it's not that he chose to post the shit...it's what he posted. it said NOTHING!

it was worth it to him to carry favor for a moment...a brief moment and the only people that witnessed that, who saw something where there was to see nothing are idiots.

so the point is, if people on this site will expose trivial, inconsequential shit, OH-EM-GEE! i can only imagine what they do with personal stuff.

i guess i take it seriously from a liability standpoint. all jokes and sarcasm aside, what he did was rank.