Ferguson grand jury decision in 20minutes. (Page 6)

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by seraph

Posted by VenusAquarius
No it's not. Using Marijuana as the example... was great. We're all watching this law change.

I used to belong to N.O.R.M.L (Nat'l Org. for the Reform of Marijuana Laws). Seeing, these laws change gives me hope for the future.

We fight unjust laws, practices, and processes and don't bow down like cowards.

You don't fight unjust laws by violating them and getting jail time as a result. And in this case we're not talking anything like saving trees or standing in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square.

It's weed.

If the substance you want to sell, for example, carries with it legal penalties, and you know this but you do it anyway and you don't care and you do time for it, that's called Fucking Up Your Life. And for weed, of all things.

If you decide that paying for two cigars is enough, and that running out with the whole box is justified (because you think you've paid enough already and the owner doesn't need all that money), are you going to call charges of theft unjust?

Pick your battles.

Those two are completely different.

Robbery is illegal at both the state, and federal level.

"Weed" on the other hand, may be illegal at the federal level, but has been legalized/close to being legalized in many states.

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Punishment should fit the crime. Police officers should not be judge, jury, and executioner. Dead men can't talk.

Once again, you're sensationalized the events in the same fashion as you have accused others. Stealing a blunt, if that is what occured, (for all I know, he shorted the guy some change) furthermore, I've been pushed in public. No one died.

You won't even entertain the event as a misdemeanor offense which is not punishable by death. You do not believe in excessive force. You have chosen to believe in law enforcement as god, judge, jury, and executioner....and the law that makes them so. African Americans should simply be extra careful, since they are often extra guilty whether perception or not.

Posted by GetMisted
Let me put it this way..

In a case where the State vs Wilson was to go to trial.. The evidence from the convenience store would be inadmissible because Wilson was not involved in that.

It's creating bias in the jury. Why was it presented as evidence by a Prosecutor who's trying to get Wilson into a trial?

Why was it allowed to be presented in the first place?

Good one... but, Seraph knows this you know.

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Posted by GetMisted
Let me put it this way..

In a case where the State vs Wilson was to go to trial.. The evidence from the convenience store would be inadmissible because Wilson was not involved in that.

It's creating bias in the jury. Why was it presented as evidence by a Prosecutor who's trying to get Wilson into a trial?

Why was it allowed to be presented in the first place?

If a prosecutor chooses to present such evidence, it would be in order to establish the individual's sate of mind just before they were involved in the other crime they committed that day, failing any evidence that Wilson knew about the robbery.

If you committed a strong-arm robbery only an hour or two before you got yourself involved in even more trouble, it's kind of an important point that you found absolutely zero problem with theft and assault just prior to a cop saying you did assault thing to him.

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ummm but that's not really the prosecutors job, that's the defenses job.

The checks and balances for the law in this case are totally off. Motives and intentions of each side should be clear. But its not.

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Posted by GetMisted
Let me put it this way..

In a case where the State vs Wilson was to go to trial.. The evidence from the convenience store would be inadmissible because Wilson was not involved in that.

It's creating bias in the jury. Why was it presented as evidence by a Prosecutor who's trying to get Wilson into a trial?

Why was it allowed to be presented in the first place?

If a prosecutor chooses to present such evidence, it would be in order to establish the individual's sate of mind just before they were involved in the other crime they committed that day, failing any evidence that Wilson knew about the robbery.

If you committed a strong-arm robbery only an hour or two before you got yourself involved in even more trouble, it's kind of an important point that you found absolutely zero problem with theft and assault just prior to a cop saying you did assault thing to him.

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The value if cigars does not equate to armed robbery. Once again, he could have shorted they guy change for all we know. That's because dead men can't talk... shoot to kill.

Half of our states do not use grand juries because they are adversarial in nature... secrecy.

Prosecutors can still move forward with a case w/o grand juries. Hence why, the outrage involved where the relationship with police and the D.A.

"For our criminal justice system to be effective, it needs to not only be fair, but it also must be perceived as being fair," Cole said in a statement. "Older, stringent punishments that are out of line with sentences imposed under today's laws erode people's confidence in our criminal justice system, and I am confident that this initiative will go far to promote the most fundamental of American ideals — equal justice for all."

Deputy Attorney General James Cole.

The law that gives police the right to shoot to kill, is unconstitutional, not allowing for due process. The police officer becomes judge, jury, and executioner.

Furthermore, did the people vote this law into existence?

The enactment of laws by the people is an important part of the social contract between the government and the people who allow themselves to be governed.

Note: Becaria's "Of Crimes and Punishment"

That quote was in reference to the release of non violent drug offenders from prison.

Although, it sounds full of principles, I'm sure the economy had much more to do with it.

Posted by seraph
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1.)In this sense, the interesting part is that all the pre-indictment uproar actually made it easier for Wilson to walk.

Does this call for some sort of nullification of the verdict? No. The jury had months to sift through and 2.)logically reason out a mountain of evidence.

A grand jury's job is to determine if there is probable cause to believe that a person committed the crimes he is being charged with. Probable cause means this:

A reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify a prudent and cautious person's belief that certain facts are probably true.

This ruling means nothing more than the grand jury did not believe that the facts presented gave them probable cause to believe that he was guilty of first degree murder, second degree murder, voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.

If they couldn't find probable cause for even a manslaughter charge, they found that Darren Wilson was within his rights 3.)based on the deadly force statutes governing law enforcement officials. And Wilson??s story dovetails perfectly with these laws.

1.) Your opinion

2.)As you even stated, Mike Brown's prosecution was involved in evidencing... so, the D.A. acts like a defense attorney for Wilson.

3.)There is a law that protects the officer giving him the right of judge, jury, and executioner. I cry unconstitutional... tremendously cutting due process by 75% .

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Posted by VenusAquarius


The value if cigars does not equate to armed robbery.

And? He stole things, and then he assaulted the shopkeep. You can call it "cheeseburger" or "tomato paste", and it wouldn't change anything.

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And, just objecting to sensationalism.

I'm not trying to change your mind.

I believe in due process, justice, and fair laws where punishments fits the crime.

I do not believe in the law that gives that kind of omnipotent power to a police officer.

The law needs to be fought.

There has been a movement against the indictment process for a long time... and grand juries.

Why the secrecy?

The whole thing occurred publicly.

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Posted by VenusAquarius
There has been a movement against the indictment process for a long time... and grand juries.

Why the secrecy?

The whole thing occurred publicly.

http://campus.udayton.edu/~grandjur/faq/faq7.htm<BR>
Many years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court explained why grand jury proceedings are secret. According to the Court, which was relying on earlier common law, there are four reasons why grand jury proceedings are secret. Secrecy prevents those who are being investigated from interfering with witnesses and otherwise tampering with the investigation. It encourages witnesses who might be reluctant to testify if their comments were made public to be speak freely when they are brought before the grand jury. It decreases the likelihood that one who is about to be indicted by a grand jury will flee and thereby avoid being brought to trial on those charges. And, finally, it protects innocent persons whose names may be implicated in a grand jury investigation but who will never be indicted.

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Seraph, I know this.

I still and never agreed.

I've got computers, Google... and books too.

Note: Becaria's "Of Crimes and Punishments," it a book now in pdf. on the internet.

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Posted by VenusAquarius

I believe in due process, justice, and fair laws where punishments fits the crime.

I do not believe in the law that gives that kind of omnipotent power to a police officer.

The law needs to be fought.

I don't think you'd want an entire generation of police officers hesitant to fire their weapon when they really need to because they've got their mind fixed on the possibility of serious charges if they do.

You'd be disempowering police officers who, in the vast majority of a cases, do fire their weapon justifiably and in a manner warranted by the moment-to-moment circumstances.

And you'd be empowering criminals to take advantage of that, who in the vast majority of cases are looking for just such an opportunity.

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Let me empower myself.

I got guns.

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by GetMisted
I'm going to type up my notes from the first 450 pages of the transcript..

Fuck it.. I'm too high.

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Are you just going to let seraph win? just like that?

@Seraph:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/26/3597322/justice-scalia-explains-what-was-wrong-with-the-ferguson-grand-jury/<BR>
Pay close attention to both quotes by Justice Scalia. In the first quote, he gives you the theory of the indictment process and in the second he explains how it's actually practiced. Although he is in favor of allowing the accused to testify, he essentially said that McCullough used the process to exonerate Darren Wilson in part, which according to precedence, is NOT what it's for. Historically, the indictment process, as actually practiced, is to GET a true bill to bring charges and get an arrest warrant.If a D.A. knows they can indisputably get an indictment after going over the evidence themselves, they bring it to the Grand Jury. They don't just bring evidence and witnesses(including the accused) and subtlely tell them to "come up with a charge or charges." That's Criminal Procedure 101 and he'll, you even see it on Law and Order. What's ironic, and nobody bothered to ask, is why only 12 jurors? The Grand Jury is usually made up of at least 20 or more people. Symbolism really. He turned the Grand Jury into a Petite Jury...the number in an actual trial and turned the indictment process into a trial itself. How Orwellian.

I explained "why" matters more than the outcome itself. It's the sole purpose of any investigation or procedure and the "how" and "what" give the details. You quoted the Missouri Law earlier. Ironically, the truth is right there in front of you and you choose not to see it. Why go through the process is the law backs up the shooting? Most D.A. Would've just said that the law backs up Mr. Wilson and left it at that. It's why D.A.'s rarely indict police officers or even try. So in essence, this is about putting Mike Brown on trial and convicting him in the court of public opinion and using the process to do it as I said above...whether you choose to see it or not.

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Posted by beautifulsoul74
"If your concerns about violence are limited to property damage and looting, and you have never shed two tears for the history of institutional violence, murder, colonialism, segregation, lynching, genocide and police brutality against peoples of color, your words mean nothing; they mean less than nothing. Your outrage, in such a case is grotesque, an inversion of morality so putrescent as to call into question your capacity for real feeling at all. So long as violence from below is condemned while violence from above is ignored, you can bet that the former will continue--and however unfortunate that may be, it is surely predictable. If you'd like the former to cease, put an end to the latter, and then I promise you, it will."

~Tim Wise~

The approval rating for this is incalculable.

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+1...it had to be said.

Posted by seraph
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The only reason the DA took this to the grand jury in the first place was because of public (mob- style ) pressure and media blowup. When a DA isn't seeking an indictment he doesn't seat a grand jury, except in the rare case where too much outside political pressure is applied, as in this case. A prosecutor's duty (among others) is to not bring charges where the evidence doesn't support probable cause, according to Prosecutorial Discretion. Thanks to people going absolutely nuts, the DA felt pressured to engage in a process in which he didn't have to, according to his discretion. So it wasn't a normal process from the start.

As a prosecuting attorney, the DA has the power to decide whether to even bring criminal charges, decide the nature of charges, and recommend sentence, among other things.

It's readily apparent that he never believed the evidence supported a conviction. He just didn't want to prosecute this case, and it's very possible that, technically, Wilson was acting within the written law - written law that plugs into the verdict pretty easily.

So basically you're telling me that he caved into pressure. If that's the case, he needs to resign. What's apparently wrong with that picture is that this isn't the first time a police officer has shot someone in the line of duty(regardless of whether the officers or decedents were black or white) in Ferguson or greater St. Louis county and he never went to the Grand Jury in those cases and public outcry was still present. So all of a sudden"the light" comes on? Because of "pressure?" Sorry, that dog won't hunt.

This is what comes to mind as an end result of all the stupid shit that this case has brought up. We're raising generations to have no respect for any sort of authority figure, even at a basic level. This era of entitlement is starting to show the disturbing results from such mentalities.

Like this one?

I'm just gonna leave this right here....

Yeah tell that to the millions of soldiers (and their families) that died for "just a piece of cloth" NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP!

The United States Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), has ruled that due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of a flag, due to its status as "symbolic speech." However, content-neutral restrictions may still be imposed to regulate the time, place, and manner of such expression.

Posted by Astrobyn
The United States Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), has ruled that due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of a flag, due to its status as "symbolic speech." However, content-neutral restrictions may still be imposed to regulate the time, place, and manner of such expression.

Wow Robyn you can Google...congradufuckinglations. smh...

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Posted by LostinmyMind11
Yeah tell that to the millions of soldiers (and their families) that died for "just a piece of cloth" NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Soldiers.. and Police officers are two completely different people, employed by two completely different entities.

I have no disrespect for either, and in fact (as a health care professional), I've discussed this matter with multiples.

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Oh wow thanks for the clarification...I would have never known the difference between the two. I dont give a shit if it was a cop, guardsman, navy seal etc....its highly disrespectful to burn the American flag in my book and makes this whole plight ...null and void, not that it wasnt to begin with! Absolutely disgraceful!!

Dont use a man who assaulted a cop, strong armed robbed a convenience store owner as the poster child for the agenda and then these so called "peaceful protestors" want to burn the flag, black owned businesses, and my city and think they are going to be taken seriously, Cause black lives matter but yet you burn your own race's businesses and kill each other every single fucking night. And you're worried about some cops...wtf is wrong with all of you! (this is not entirely directed at you, GetMisted) But I guarantee ....the Bosnian man that just got hammered (yes hammered) to death by some punks kids...wont see the light of day! Cause only black lives matter...fuck off with that shit...ALL LIVES MATTER!!!!

Oh and lets not forget the "gentle giant" step father said and I quote "Burn this bitch down" several times after hearing the verdict...of which he already before we all did.

already knew*

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Posted by Astrobyn
The United States Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), has ruled that due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of a flag, due to its status as "symbolic speech." However, content-neutral restrictions may still be imposed to regulate the time, place, and manner of such expression.

Wow Robyn you can Google...congradufuckinglations. smh...

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I mean I don't mean to be disrespectful, cus I like yeah... but I knew it wasn't against the law. and Like I said I don't mean to be rude, but maybe you could use a little more Google in your life.

Your responses are emotionally fueled here, and aren't relevant to the discussion. Its just garage and yes propaganda meant to divide us.

I never said it was against the law...in any of my posts. I didnt need google to tell me that...but thanks for your concern.

You're damn right my responses are emotionally fueled...I have family that fought for your fucking right to use google, and your freedom of speech...but looks like your only concern is me needing google in my life and whether or not my input is relevant to the shit in this thread..smh!

Do you live in St. Louis, Ferguson?...cause guess fucking what...my input (emotionally fueled or not) has a little more relevance to the discussion than yours does!

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Yeah tell that to the millions of soldiers (and their families) that died for "just a piece of cloth" NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Soldiers.. and Police officers are two completely different people, employed by two completely different entities.

I have no disrespect for either, and in fact (as a health care professional), I've discussed this matter with multiples.

Oh wow thanks for the clarification...I would have never known the difference between the two. I dont give a shit if it was a cop, guardsman, navy seal etc....its highly disrespectful to burn the American flag in my book and makes this whole plight ...null and void, not that it wasnt to begin with! Absolutely disgraceful!!

Dont use a man who assaulted a cop, strong armed robbed a convenience store owner as the poster child for the agenda and then these so called "peaceful protestors" want to burn the flag, black owned businesses, and my city and think they are going to be taken seriously, Cause black lives matter but yet you burn your own race's businesses and kill each other every single fucking night. And you're worried about some cops...wtf is wrong with all of you! (this is not entirely directed at you, GetMisted) But I guarantee ....the Bosnian man that just got hammered (yes hammered) to death by some punks kids...wont see the light of day! Cause only black lives matter...fuck off with that shit...ALL LIVES MATTER!!!!

You have to realize that this race issue spawned because of the area this happened in, right? Otherwise, this would have been swept under the rug. This is not an isolated incident, nor is it a race issue. This is a matter of police abusing their badge, and the current justice system allowing them to do so.

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I guess you havent read the signs....it only for AA...cause Black lives matter. This isnt about the police (some think it is)...its a race/class issue. Trust me...Im watching it unfold in front of my eyes while everyone else is watching it on TV. If it wasnt about race...then youd seen signs that all liv

es matter...not just AA, cause it happens to every fucking race. The media just wont put the others out there....it goes against their agenda of keeping everyone divided. This thread and the other thread, along with comments under articles, comments under news stations websites...its about race. It will always be about race...sad but true

Posted by LostinmyMind11
I never said it was against the law...in any of my posts. I didnt need google to tell me that...but thanks for your concern.

You're damn right my responses are emotionally fueled...I have family that fought for your fucking right to use google, and your freedom of speech...but looks like your only concern is me needing google in my life and whether or not my input is relevant to the shit in this thread..smh!

Do you live in St. Louis, Ferguson?...cause guess fucking what...my input (emotionally fueled or not) has a little more relevance to the discussion than yours does!

Well then why don't you talk about something that's relevant, instead of trying to distract from the issues.

There are already 52 pages of points here you've already ignored, so there is nothing I can say that you will make a difference to you, so I wont waste my time.

I'm not for the fucking riots, I'm not for violence or destruction of any kind. So don't misunderstand that. I'm sorry if this is happening to your community, but no I don't believe your opinion is greater than mine.

What issues are those...arguing back and forth on DXP? lol come on now...I dont see you out protesting for change Robyn...I highly doubt posting some vids and some google articles are doing a whole lot for the so called "issues" on DXP. But please dont let me interrupt you, I dont want to take away from your googling time....

no worries, I can multitask.

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Apparently the rest of the world is not enthused with the arguments in favor of business as usual.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/30/un-police-brutality-stand-your-ground_n_5740734.html<BR>
* ACLU calls for addressing racial inequality in America

"GENEVA, Aug 29 (Reuters) - The U.N. racism watchdog urged the United States on Friday to halt the excessive use of force by police after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a white policeman touched off riots in Ferguson, Missouri.

Minorities, particularly African Americans, are victims of disparities, the U.N. Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) said after examining the U.S. record.

"Racial and ethnic discrimination remains a serious and persistent problem in all areas of life from de facto school segregation, access to health care and housing," Noureddine Amir, CERD committee vice chairman, told a news briefing.

Teenager Michael Brown was shot dead by a white police officer on Aug. 9, triggering violent protests that rocked Ferguson - a St. Louis suburb - and shone a global spotlight on the state of race relations in America.

"The excessive use of force by law enforcement officials against racial and ethnic minorities is an ongoing issue of concern and particularly in light of the shooting of Michael Brown," said Amir, an expert from Algeria.

"This is not an isolated event and illustrates a bigger problem in the United States, such as racial bias among law enforcement officials, the lack of proper implementation of rules and regulations governing the use of force, and the inadequacy of training of law enforcement officials."

The panel of 18 independent experts grilled a senior U.S. delegation on Aug. 13 about what they said was persistent racial discrimination against African-Americans and other minorities, including within the criminal justice system."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/tim-wise-most-white-people-in-america-are-completely-oblivious/<BR>

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Posted by rockyroadicecream
This is what comes to mind as an end result of all the stupid shit that this case has brought up. We're raising generations to have no respect for any sort of authority figure, even at a basic level. This era of entitlement is starting to show the disturbing results from such mentalities.

This is in Ferguson, right?

Can you use an example that isn't race filled? Or located in that general area? Even the comments in the youtube comment section are race fueled.

Look.. I'm a white male. Yet, I've still been harassed by police.. unprovoked. I'm not saying that much of our generation doesn't disrespect officers.. but you have to understand that that respect goes both ways. Being treated like a criminal when there is no cause to do so is a very real occurrence. I've lived it first hand.

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Can you understand the point I was making? Because you totally missed it. See my previous post.

Btw, that was in WASHINGTON.

All this utter disrespect and pegging ALL police officers as bad guys is what gets assholes like these in the shitty binds like that thug kid in Ferguson. The officer in this video should be commended for his patience.

I also forgot the back story wasn't included with this. The guy was walking out of Walmart with a cart full of stuff and it sent red flags up to the employees who had the police step in to help them out. Dude was asked to show his information/receipt and he threw a fit and made a huge ass out of himself.

People like him are why others have a hard time fighting off racial issues and stereotypes.

@Seraph:

The person I was talking about resigning was McCullough but I get your argument on Wilson resigning; which he's already done.

Look at it this way, what you see in regards to rioting is no different than any other instance of oppression through out history. From China, to the Middle East. Any time you deny access to basic human rights and freedom people eventually will fight back. As Martin Luther King said..."riots are the language of the unheard." The sides are simple. There are the oppressed and those who oppressed and all other factors only give the details. Is it unfortunate? Yes...but it's predictable.


The Goddess of Irony has been putting in some serious overtime. If one knows the history of this country, they would know that what actually sparked the American Revolution was the murder of Crispus Attucks...a young black man...by British Soldiers...acting as "law enforcement." History repeats itself. I predict that if things don't change, within the next 100 years or so, there will be a second Civil War.

I love what Chris Rock had to say on this..

The AA community just pissed off the Bosnian community because of the brutal murder that happened last night to a Bosnian man.... a group of teenagers (black, except I think one is Hispanic) who beat him to death with hammers for no reason. Apparently their excuse was they did it for fun. This is going to get a lot uglier here...they will not fuck around...they are getting singled out by the AA community all the time, and killed. This just broke the straw. It isnt police people should be worried about...its humanity!!

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Posted by rockyroadicecream
This is what comes to mind as an end result of all the stupid shit that this case has brought up. We're raising generations to have no respect for any sort of authority figure, even at a basic level. This era of entitlement is starting to show the disturbing results from such mentalities.

This is in Ferguson, right?

Can you use an example that isn't race filled? Or located in that general area? Even the comments in the youtube comment section are race fueled.

Look.. I'm a white male. Yet, I've still been harassed by police.. unprovoked. I'm not saying that much of our generation doesn't disrespect officers.. but you have to understand that that respect goes both ways. Being treated like a criminal when there is no cause to do so is a very real occurrence. I've lived it first hand.

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Ah yes. I've had my share of encounters with "Officer Friendly".
Gives decent cops a bad name.

Posted by LostinmyMind11
The AA community just pissed off the Bosnian community because of the brutal murder that happened last night to a Bosnian man.... a group of teenagers (black, except I think one is Hispanic) who beat him to death with hammers for no reason. Apparently their excuse was they did it for fun. This is going to get a lot uglier here...they will not fuck around...they are getting singled out by the AA community all the time, and killed. This just broke the straw. It isnt police people should be worried about...its humanity!!

Article here:
Hammer Time?

Did y'all see the interview on ABC news?? Wilson keeps insisting that Brown was killed 35ft away. The D.A. and the report says 153ft abd realistically if Brown was coming back, then it's 160-180 ft. Why is he still trying to perpetrate that lie...sorry...it's a lie.

Of course! Any bad thing that ever happens in the world, who's behind it? oh a fucking Taurus. Who's fault is it this time? Oh idk we can either blame it on the Taurus or the Taurus!

born on 14 May 1986 12:00 noon
in Fort Worth, TX (US)

Sun Taurus 23??36'01
Moon Cancer or Leo
Mercury Taurus 13??51'01
Venus Gemini 21??43'56
Mars Capricorn 19??28'38
Jupiter Pisces 17??43'27
Saturn Sagittarius 7??23'18 Rx
Uranus Sagittarius 21??27'47 Rx
Neptune Capricorn 5??27'16 Rx
Pluto Scorpio 5??28'11 Rx
True Node Aries 29??42'52 Rx

Michael Brown (male)
born on 20 May 1996, 12:00 noon
in St.Louis, MO (US)

Sun Taurus 29??56'40
Moon Gemini or Cancer
Mercury Taurus 21??23'02 Rx
Venus Gemini 28??17'38 S
Mars Taurus 13??21'54
Jupiter Capricorn 17??15'07 Rx
Saturn Aries 4??37'27
Uranus Aquarius 4??31'33 Rx
Neptune Capricorn 27??37'59 Rx
Pluto Sagittarius 1??47'34 Rx
True Node Libra 16??14'41 Rx

Posted by Astrobyn
Of course! Any bad thing that ever happens in the world, who's behind it? oh a fucking Taurus. Who's fault is it this time? Oh idk we can either blame it on the Taurus or the Taurus!

LaaaaMoooooooooo 😆