Human rights?

I'm disgusted with Rihanna's new video. You don't joke with mishanding of your hostage.

That happens only because cinema has made us adjust to violence in movies.

joe.ie: visual approach from Quentin Tarantino with plenty of violence, nudity and gore on offer.

http://news.softpedia.com/: It's violent and shameless, revealing and unfiltered....An NC-17 rating would probably best suit it.

Here's the summary:

http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/music/rihannas-new-nsfw-music-video-is-her-craziest-yet?

stupid ridiculous video.

I could forgive the man-down-video cause the girl did something wrong out of short time reaction. And she regretted it.

But in this video the hence women do what they do to the hostage. And they have time to be cool and evaluate what they do. Is this what happens when women get the power?

Or are we going back to the nature (I mean to the cave era)?

Is this what happens when you grow up and have your first disappointments behind you?

Compare Rihanna's glance of when she was 17 and now.
We say God is with us but you don't see the same vitality in our eyes that we had when we left our parents's house never again.

radiotimes.com:
It's truly violent stuff, especially for a singer who started out with nice songs about DJs on the beach (Pon De Replay, anyone?).

femalefirst.co.uk:
"It also serves to show that females can be confident within their bodies, enough so to get nude for a music video while being completely empowered."

Are they talking about Rihanna? Because the hostage was totally disempowered.

Crazy video

twitter, ??@Laurastylesitup:
"Disgusted by Rihanna's new video.In the light of the terrorism that we are currently facing, a vid like this is barbaric."

Posted by only
Crazy video

Maybe she was worrying about her carreer and needed to give them a shock to stay still on the top. IDK. that's just crazy.

she never tried to have big moralistic/social messages. now this one is anti-social.

Posted by ScorpiosHarmony
CALM YOUR TITS IT'S ONLY FICTION!

UK loves Barbados, right?

never mind the video or rihanna or whoever.

i want to talk about the cat in your picture. that is the cutest thing i've ever seen!

Posted by LadyYin
never mind the video or rihanna or whoever.

i want to talk about the cat in your picture. that is the cutest thing i've ever seen!

I know, right? realy cute and astonishing. like where's the balance point?

ugh, turned it off after rhirhi started screeching

she's nice to look at, that's all

Posted by Wynter
ugh, turned it off after rhirhi started screeching

she's nice to look at, that's all

agreed. the pictures are well done. clothes and makeup. also it is a good like that the women built a group to act.

yet torture of hostage? I cannot forgive it.
all the rest (blood, murder, nudity, revenge) is not my problem. My problem is to torture the third party. Or was the wife involved in her bancruptcy too?

Posted by beautifuldiaster
I read she has a lot of violence aspects.

Mars square moon, Saturn and Uranus. I have a lot of the same too.

Despite our current turmoil in the world, sometimes devastation and violence is art.

That being said I see where you're coming from and I don't think this video is art. I read her accountant messed up her funds and that the song was about that.

And when I watched it she seems to not care at all. Its strictly business at the sake of everything and when someone tries hard to act like they don't care its because they care so much. She doesn't seem to be in a very good place right now.

When I saw your post I found the video and watched it. Song isn't good anyways.

I think she is distracted by her fashion related activities.

When activities become routine, the observer notices the change in your eyes.

At least she was the director of the video. meaning she was trying something new. that gives a new stray of passion.

Posted by Katana
I guess the OP is big on censorship?

I'm definitely not and I liked this video, I found it to be as entertaining as I expected it to be. I usually like Rihanna's videos. I like that her style is unique and eccentric. Yes there was some violence and nudity in the video, that's nothing we haven't already seen in movies. It was also controversial but, it was fitting for the concept of the song. Besides it's Rihanna, she's nothing if not controversial which is exactly what I love about her. She does what she feels fits her style whether people agree with it or not. Also, judging by her many revealing outfits, public nudity and wild antics, she seems to love shocking people and it seems as though she has accomplished just that with this music video.

you are right. I'm a friend of censorships. but my problem is neither nudity nor general violence in the movie. The title says it "human rights".

In this special case
as I wrote before
"torture of hostage? I cannot forgive it."

this must be a taboo to hurt the kidnap victims.

IDK. maybe the video wants wives to check their husbands so she does not have to go through all this?

Posted by DwellingOnMove
femalefirst.co.uk:
"It also serves to show that females can be confident within their bodies, enough so to get nude for a music video while being completely empowered."

You're right.

It's not empowerment-- what a stupid statement.

Posted by Katana
... It seems like the couple was out spending her money and ruining her credit which is why she victimized the both of them, neither of them seemed to be innocent so I don't see why you find it unforgivable. ... Revenge is something I find very necessary in certain cases so we might disagree on that as well. ...

Yesterday I read a lot of summaries of that video. None of them told that the wife has been ruining the credit of the main fictional character.

Had the couple had no own money before?

You are right. The number of times I was active on behalf of revenge is under five.

Revenge is self-administered justice. You'll automatically hate it if somebody ruins your life for something which is a small joke to you and a big deal to him. Look at rationalisations of terrorists. nothing but pure self-administered justice.

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Posted by PotHeadVirgo25

Chemical and biological warfare did not come from TV, movies, or video games.

Agreed, even though it is a strawman response, because I never said or implied this was the case.
Rather, I'm saying, the war games and violence portrayed 24/7 via the above mediums, and our acceptance of this as entertainment and a means to make someone some money, is symptomatic of the human condition, and why we seem incapable, as a whole, of rising above our fears, prejudices and ignorance, generation after generation.

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very well said.

"pay the piper" otherwise...




In 1284, while the town of Hamelin was suffering from a rat infestation, a piper dressed in colorful red clothing appeared, claiming to be a rat-catcher. ... Despite the piper's success, the mayor reneged on his promise and refused to pay him the full sum. The piper left the town angrily, vowing to return later to take revenge. ...

Revenge is stupid.
It can go out of proportion but it changes the history as much as acceptance does. And I know it is not avoidable. Still a stupid thing in presence of intelligence.
In Marina Tsvetaeva long poem "Krysolov" ("The rat catcher") rats are allegory of people influenced by Bolshevik propaganda.
Revolutions are often based on the revenge. Do you like it?

While Rihanna was busy with this revenge (for all the background frustrators she does not talk about), she lost the overview and did not see how wrong it is to torture kidnap victims.

Posted by DwellingOnMove
My problem is to torture the third party. Or was the wife involved in her bancruptcy too?

The third parties always seem to get shafted as well, when it comes to revenge. I remember when Keyser Soze went after the mob who killed his family - In the words of Verbal Kint:

"He lets the last Hungarian go, waits until his wife and kids are in the ground, and then he goes after the rest of the mob. He kills their kids. He kills their wives. He kills their parents and their parents' friends. He burns down the houses they live in, the stores they work in. He kills people that owe them money. "

He destroyed all the people around the men who killed his family. Probably took pleasure from it, and Rhianna certainly looked like she enjoyed torturing the bitches wife as well.

Rhianna probably told the director of the vid that she wanted something "edgy" and "artsy" to fit the theme of the song. They delivered, IMO

Wynter, you are right in all points.
also about that "edgy" thing.

ok, I know I'm not living in a perfect world.
I had to make this thread. It's just bothering me.
It does not the change my like for Rihanna.

It bothers me too.

It's inhuman behaviour, and people seem to accept it more readily now-a-days

It makes the world a little bit scarier. Life is cheap, apparently

I do love her "Only girl in the World" video 🙂

The Bad girl Rhi Rhi is not that appealing to me

Posted by Wynter
ugh, turned it off after rhirhi started screeching

she's nice to look at, that's all

I find it more to be a bleat

Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by only
Crazy video

Maybe she was worrying about her carreer and needed to give them a shock to stay still on the top. IDK. that's just crazy.

she never tried to have big moralistic/social messages. now this one is anti-social.

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they don't have the entire vid on YouTube, but some parts, and that link you provided, well i got the meaning.

well if you notice, she would NEVER use a woman of lower status, or even poor that would look very very bad and demeaning. And she knew it would outrage others.

the use of having to take revenge on a woman of higher social status, is kind of a "take that, you bitch," especially if the high ranking woman in question did not pay her back. If that were a poor, pathetic woman with nothing going for her, how would that look to the public? trying to take money or destroy a woman who does not have anything to give?

at least this way, alot of middle class and under middle class, poor, and underprivileged women can sort of understand. It's not right, of course but hey it's fiction.

and perhaps that high society, high ranking woman is snooty and mean you know? that way the band of girl gone bad is kind of like, yay!! we gonna get her!!

oh i just realized that when using a rich bitch, who has everything, kind of plays on to the middle class, poor, underprivileged, who ....are the MAJORITY of the paying customers in the world.

you need to cater to your audience.

this isn't about humanity though. lol It's just about making music and money. 😆

Posted by lisabethur8
oh i just realized that when using a rich bitch, who has everything, kind of plays on to the middle class, poor, underprivileged, who ....are the MAJORITY of the paying customers in the world.

you need to cater to your audience.

this isn't about humanity though. lol It's just about making music and money. 😆

unfortunately you are right. this is about own money and popularity.

if only this could lead to a dialogue that we've gone too far with being easy on violence... and that we have forgotten torture behind the closed doors. if only...

Well, violence. If you give some an inch, they'll take a mile.
Heh...good thing then that everybody doesn't follow rihanna.