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Also, during all of this I can't stop thinking about Meta or the user Metaphysical.
back in the day i thought he was just supper weird and kind of quirky that he called everyone a Zionist all the time. Which I don't think I was completely wrong because it seemed like it was used very often outside of the context of its meaning. So that just confused me.
But now that I have a better understanding of what that means, it makes me wonder what i had missed about what he was trying to say. It was probably a lot tho, tbh.
back in the day i thought he was just supper weird and kind of quirky that he called everyone a Zionist all the time. Which I don't think I was completely wrong because it seemed like it was used very often outside of the context of its meaning. So that just confused me.
But now that I have a better understanding of what that means, it makes me wonder what i had missed about what he was trying to say. It was probably a lot tho, tbh.
Posted by Astrobyn
I think that there are some scary things that are going within our media and our laws, that make it more and more apparent that our freedom is an illusion only exist because people generally collectively believe it does.
It is actually quite disconcerting!
When shit happened with Assange hardly anyone bet an eye since the smear campaign was so successful.
Now, we have 3 military doctors stand accused of being whistleblowers for simply signing of on a document detailing sudden rise of deaths of 18-40 years olds collected by a life insurance company!
Wasn’t there a father who attended a school protest who had FBI called on him claiming he was a domestic terrorist … noteworthy , his daughter was sexually assaulted day before!
Plethora of those who have been fired for their jobs for not even being pro Palestine but pro peace!
Examples just keep piling up!
More to the point…
Posted by Astrobyn
Also whatever law they just passed in NY, where it makes it legal to remove people from their homes to mandatory quarantine them, force them to take medication even experimental treatments. I know its out there and people are talking about it. But I just tried to look it up and google doesn’t want to show it to me. If anyone has more information please let me know. I mean.... maybe got wrong information on this, but I feel like maybe not.
Most recent news:
https://www.timesunion.com/state/article/quarantine-isolation-law-reinstated-reversing-18504249.php
Posted by ArgusPosted by Astrobyn
I think that there are some scary things that are going within our media and our laws, that make it more and more apparent that our freedom is an illusion only exist because people generally collectively believe it does.
It is actually quite disconcerting!
When shit happened with Assange hardly anyone bet an eye since the smear campaign was so successful.
Now, we have 3 military doctors stand accused of being whistleblowers for simply signing of on a document detailing sudden rise of deaths of 18-40 years olds collected by a life insurance company!
Wasn’t there a father who attended a school protest who had FBI called on him claiming he was a domestic terrorist … noteworthy , his daughter was sexually assaulted day before!
Plethora of those who have been fired for their jobs for not even being pro Palestine but pro peace!
Examples just keep piling up!
More to the point…
I know there was a Palestinian boy in Orange County, were a Jewish girl called him a terrorist, and all he said was free Palestine. He's was suspended for 3 days. The parents made the school put the offensive in writing and that's exactly all he said.
Also I know this is off topic, but does anyone know what happened to all the homeless people in San Francisco?
Let’s explore the Whys..
Why is the USA funding genocide?
Why now? Why so openly?
We know the 5th Column exists in the USA and the top tiers behind the scenes have been systematically dismantling all of the freedoms that were established by the Continental Army who fought off the British sodomites in 1777.
British Parliament passed a law The Intolerables Act and tried to impose Martial law in Boston when the people said fuck you to king George the third and his sanctions on the 13 colonies of USA.
Sound familiar?
The USAs and UNs manipulative growth hacking is under siege as huge nations in the South and Middle East discard the green backed US dollar next year and join Brics.
USA know that shit is gonna get so tight and painful for every US citizen in 2024 (so much worse than it is now) and there will be similar macro and micro economic depression that was seen in 1774, late 1800s and 1914
What precipitated those depressions?
It was the sanctions the US Congress placed on competing nations EXACTLY what they are doing now with Russia, soon to be China and most of Middle East.
What was USAs resolution when these depressions were triggered?
Start Global Wars. 1914 for instance..
How did USA capitalise on the economic fails of their nation?
It created the FED and centralised the monetary system.
This shit is planned. They will try and impose the digital ID soon and abolish cash currency in USA which will cause mayhem in the US. They are desperate rn as people are arming up and not fucking with any of it in the confederate states that were the establishments biggest threat in 1774 and now.
Why is the USA funding genocide?
Why now? Why so openly?
We know the 5th Column exists in the USA and the top tiers behind the scenes have been systematically dismantling all of the freedoms that were established by the Continental Army who fought off the British sodomites in 1777.
British Parliament passed a law The Intolerables Act and tried to impose Martial law in Boston when the people said fuck you to king George the third and his sanctions on the 13 colonies of USA.
Sound familiar?
The USAs and UNs manipulative growth hacking is under siege as huge nations in the South and Middle East discard the green backed US dollar next year and join Brics.
USA know that shit is gonna get so tight and painful for every US citizen in 2024 (so much worse than it is now) and there will be similar macro and micro economic depression that was seen in 1774, late 1800s and 1914
What precipitated those depressions?
It was the sanctions the US Congress placed on competing nations EXACTLY what they are doing now with Russia, soon to be China and most of Middle East.
What was USAs resolution when these depressions were triggered?
Start Global Wars. 1914 for instance..
How did USA capitalise on the economic fails of their nation?
It created the FED and centralised the monetary system.
This shit is planned. They will try and impose the digital ID soon and abolish cash currency in USA which will cause mayhem in the US. They are desperate rn as people are arming up and not fucking with any of it in the confederate states that were the establishments biggest threat in 1774 and now.
Posted by ArgusPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by ArgusPosted by Walk_on_byWhy does Hijab trigger ppl so much!? Baring in mind it is most assuredly not the only religion in which women -as well as men - are required some form of headware. I mean, nuns cover their heads no!? And until the 60s or so one could not enter a church without a hat at least. Also, Hijabs aren't specifically a "religious" parifinila as they are cultural/ethnic markers given every region with Muslim pupilation wears them differently if at all.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationYou going to tell us how you think women should wear Hijabs yeah? What else, you're right I'm not equipped for it, I know fuck all. Except Hijabs bad.Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by TemporaryAccommodationPosted by SoulNo. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationPosted by SoulPosted by TemporaryAccommodation
The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.
I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?
As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.
Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.
You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.
The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.
They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.
Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.
Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.
Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.
This has been happening since before Oct 7th.
So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.
You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.
This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.
No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.
Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.
Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.
Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).
That's the first thing that should happen.
The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.
All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.
All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)
That's the peaceful resolution.
See the problem with this is why you won't get your deal, you've only specified what Israel have to do and how it's all their fault. Where is the peace in that, you're on that attack. You do realize Israel doesn't have to have a ceasefire, they can have it on their terms because they have the fire power, they can eradicate Palestine. Why will they accept your terms, when they don't need to.
You're trying to pick fights you aren't equipped for. Strange behaviour.
Who said anything about Israel wanting to accept these proposals that I have made?
I was asked what the solution to stop violence is, I have answered it.
Nothing can be done until these war mongering bastards are rotting in jail. Nothing will be done because Israel are paying tens of millions to western politicians and own several hundred media outlets. Keeping sheep quiet.
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I mean really, it boggles my mind why ppl are so triggered by a Hijab? Is it because there's nothing to oogle on? Can't be the old worn out "oh, it's a symbol of oppression" because eif they were so oppressed, millions of of women wouldn't ware them. But nahhh, western society yet again has to impose their own value systhem on others as per usual!
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It's definitely a tool for oppressions for millions of Islam women. Even if half the population like it, it's still oppressive to the ones that don't and are forced to wear it. Islam treats women horribly, any denial of that is pure delusion and brainwashing. They treat non Islam women even worse too. There are many Islamic men who do believe that all women should wear a Hijab. An Islamic woman might not wear a Hijab, then might come a across a man who will treat her like dirt.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/feb/06/iran-protesters-police-rapes-beatings-and-torture
So let me get this straight, you are outraged over a Hijab as a symbol of oppression but deaths of over 11000 leave you unfazed. Got it!
With that said, since you are inclined on using most extreme example, below is a photo of Iranian women in the 70's.
Shocking, I know! Why, what happened you might ask!? Well, we should ask C. 1. A. since this govermenet apparently didn't approve of their monarchy at the time, they worked really hard on overthrowing it counting on extremists to be much easier to control. But that never works out just right either, does it now!?
And since we are on this whole oppression bandwagon, selling ones own body on onlyfans in contrats is the opitomy of female liberation I gather then!?click to expand
Yeah the middle east before Islam took over, women in education wearing nice clothing, great photo.
Posted by xkachi
I learned a bit from qbone and that was decades ago.
Western and European societies live comfortable lives. I'm not denying that everyone has their own struggles but most of us don't revolve our thoughts on whether will live or die in our own home. So to even posts about something that's irrelevant to them is insulting.
In the videos I've seen, what resonates with me is how strong Muslim faith is. The faith that's unshaken, not even with tons of bombs dropping. It's that kind of faith that protects ones peace of mind and mental health. I can appreciate the "rationale" of praying multiple times a day.
I'm not saying all Muslims, surely there are those suffering from years of war & generational trauma, but I can't imagine Western and European societies responding the same if we were in the same situation.
It's not that complicated.
Kaching, you fucking DELETED————?
What’s really changed in modern times? All these years of education and learning from the past, we thought we reached refinement and enlightenment as we talk about embracing peace, humanity, inclusivity for all races, genders etc. This war on the weak has illustrated that the years keep flying by but nothing has changed. It’s all a sham! The govt has allowed you to peacefully protest to show your disappointment, but in reality that does nothing. It’s a soothing pill they give to the masses so they don’t revolt.
The only thing that brings about change is insurrection or boycotting on macro level.
The only thing that brings about change is insurrection or boycotting on macro level.
Posted by aquarius09
What’s really changed in modern times? All these years of education and learning from the past, we thought we reached refinement and enlightenment as we talk about embracing peace, humanity, inclusivity for all races, genders etc. This war on the weak has illustrated that the years keep flying by but nothing has changed. It’s all a sham! The govt has allowed you to peacefully protest to show your disappointment, but in reality that does nothing. It’s a soothing pill they give to the masses so they don’t revolt.
The only thing that brings about change is insurrection or boycotting on macro level.
this was a great point... it only takes 25% to come together and shift the balance of power.
Posted by TemporaryAccommodation
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
While Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Posted by aquarius09Posted by TemporaryAccommodation
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
While Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.click to expand
Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by TemporaryAccommodation
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
While Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.
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What you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09
What’s really changed in modern times? All these years of education and learning from the past, we thought we reached refinement and enlightenment as we talk about embracing peace, humanity, inclusivity for all races, genders etc. This war on the weak has illustrated that the years keep flying by but nothing has changed. It’s all a sham! The govt has allowed you to peacefully protest to show your disappointment, but in reality that does nothing. It’s a soothing pill they give to the masses so they don’t revolt.
The only thing that brings about change is insurrection or boycotting on macro level.
this was a great point... it only takes 25% to come together and shift the balance of power.
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Also why the news will you show you the very tip top of the Portland Christmas Tree lighting, so you don't see all the protesters. News outlets "Covering" the news covering up the news.
Posted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
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What you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.click to expand
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
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What you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.click to expand
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!
Posted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
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What you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!click to expand
Honestly when you say you think that because your an independent thinker and can't show any reason for why you think that. I start to wonder if your independent thoughts are a little Islamophobic. And honestly western culture is Islamophobic, buy design. That shit has been bought and paid for. I posted my source.
I am not confused about how some Muslims cultures are extreme. I do wonder how they got that way, what were they like before they meet the CIA and the western military complex. What percentage of these groups or people are extreme, how did these practices come about? And what do thse people need to get these practices to end.
But again, I'm more interested in proof, and I want to have a transparent source.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynWhat you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.Posted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
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No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!
click to expand
Honestly when you say you think that because your an independent thinker and can't show any reason for why you think that. I start to wonder if your independent thoughts are a little Islamophobic. And honestly western culture is Islamophobic, buy design. That shit has been bought and paid for. I posted my source.
I am not confused about how some Muslims cultures are extreme. I do wonder how they got that way, what were they like before they meet the CIA and the western military complex. What percentage of these groups or people are extreme, how did these practices come about? And what do thse people need to get these practices to end.
But again, I'm more interested in proof, and I want to have a transparent source.click to expand
Here is a prefect example of journalists being threatened live on air to say those things about Hamas, and he didn't and then his home was blown up and 15 of his immediate family members were murdered.
Seems hella sus to me.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8fBDLw3/
BTW like 53 journalists have beed targeted and killed since October 7th. That's 53 war crimes.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
click to expand
What you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!
Honestly when you say you think that because your an independent thinker and can't show any reason for why you think that. I start to wonder if your independent thoughts are a little Islamophobic. And honestly western culture is Islamophobic, buy design. That shit has been bought and paid for. I posted my source.
I am not confused about how some Muslims cultures are extreme. I do wonder how they got that way, what were they like before they meet the CIA and the western military complex. What percentage of these groups or people are extreme, how did these practices come about? And what do thse people need to get these practices to end.
But again, I'm more interested in proof, and I want to have a transparent source.click to expand
So what you posted a source? There’s a source for everything. Internet is littered with it. People who can’t think for themselves or need validations for their ideas need sources to support their beliefs. Remember, you won’t find proof of things. I did FOIA when I was younger for government agencies. They will never let top secret items be seen by people let alone their own employees. LOL. No powerful entity is going to do colossally criminal and devious things and drop clues for all Dora the explorers out there looking for uncover their insidious plans. It’s more like a mystery plot that brews in the minds of fantasists aka conspiracy theorists.
If I’m Islamophobic then you’re antisemite for writing what you did. Why can’t I just be an educated Muslim? Anytime someone shows dislike or disdain for something, why are they automatically presumed to be some sheep who has been fed something? I was born a Muslim. I was a practicing one in my youth, not some typical ignorant Muslim who didn’t drink or eat pork because it was Islamically prohibited. I actually studied the faith because my moral code has to make sense and I need to be able to abide by its tenets. I wasn’t going to be that pick and choose Muslims.
I can’t be that person who enjoys drinking but clutches to Islam and its belief because I’m born into it and told it’s the greatest religion. Majority of Muslims are ignorant about its teachings, tenets and pick and choose. If one is going to pick and choose things from this moral code, then why not form your own? Why stick to Islam when its practices are so onerous that you can’t observe them? You get the point.
Posted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynWhat you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.Posted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
click to expand
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!
Honestly when you say you think that because your an independent thinker and can't show any reason for why you think that. I start to wonder if your independent thoughts are a little Islamophobic. And honestly western culture is Islamophobic, buy design. That shit has been bought and paid for. I posted my source.
I am not confused about how some Muslims cultures are extreme. I do wonder how they got that way, what were they like before they meet the CIA and the western military complex. What percentage of these groups or people are extreme, how did these practices come about? And what do thse people need to get these practices to end.
But again, I'm more interested in proof, and I want to have a transparent source.
click to expand
So what you posted a source? There’s a source for everything. Internet is littered with it. People who can’t think for themselves or need validations for their ideas need sources to support their beliefs. Remember, you won’t find proof of things. I did FOIA when I was younger for government agencies. They will never let top secret items be seen by people let alone their own employees. LOL. No powerful entity is going to do colossally criminal and devious things and drop clues for all Dora the explorers out there looking for uncover their insidious plans. It’s more like a mystery plot that brews in the minds of fantasists aka conspiracy theorists.
If I’m Islamophobic then you’re antisemite for writing what you did. Why can’t I just be an educated Muslim? Anytime someone shows dislike or disdain for something, why are they automatically presumed to be some sheep who has been fed something? I was born a Muslim. I was a practicing one in my youth, not some typical ignorant Muslim who didn’t drink or eat pork because it was Islamically prohibited. I actually studied the faith because my moral code has to make sense and I need to be able to abide by its tenets. I wasn’t going to be that pick and choose Muslims.
I can’t be that person who enjoys drinking but clutches to Islam and its belief because I’m born into it and told it’s the greatest religion. Majority of Muslims are ignorant about its teachings, tenets and pick and choose. If one is going to pick and choose things from this moral code, then why not form your own? Why stick to Islam when its practices are so onerous that you can’t observe them? You get the point.click to expand
So you're is your independent thought comes from your personal experience? That is good to know.
I would love for you to detail your personal experience with Hamas to ad color and understanding to your opinion.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynWhat you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.Posted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
click to expand
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!
Honestly when you say you think that because your an independent thinker and can't show any reason for why you think that. I start to wonder if your independent thoughts are a little Islamophobic. And honestly western culture is Islamophobic, buy design. That shit has been bought and paid for. I posted my source.
I am not confused about how some Muslims cultures are extreme. I do wonder how they got that way, what were they like before they meet the CIA and the western military complex. What percentage of these groups or people are extreme, how did these practices come about? And what do thse people need to get these practices to end.
But again, I'm more interested in proof, and I want to have a transparent source.
click to expand
So what you posted a source? There’s a source for everything. Internet is littered with it. People who can’t think for themselves or need validations for their ideas need sources to support their beliefs. Remember, you won’t find proof of things. I did FOIA when I was younger for government agencies. They will never let top secret items be seen by people let alone their own employees. LOL. No powerful entity is going to do colossally criminal and devious things and drop clues for all Dora the explorers out there looking for uncover their insidious plans. It’s more like a mystery plot that brews in the minds of fantasists aka conspiracy theorists.
If I’m Islamophobic then you’re antisemite for writing what you did. Why can’t I just be an educated Muslim? Anytime someone shows dislike or disdain for something, why are they automatically presumed to be some sheep who has been fed something? I was born a Muslim. I was a practicing one in my youth, not some typical ignorant Muslim who didn’t drink or eat pork because it was Islamically prohibited. I actually studied the faith because my moral code has to make sense and I need to be able to abide by its tenets. I wasn’t going to be that pick and choose Muslims.
I can’t be that person who enjoys drinking but clutches to Islam and its belief because I’m born into it and told it’s the greatest religion. Majority of Muslims are ignorant about its teachings, tenets and pick and choose. If one is going to pick and choose things from this moral code, then why not form your own? Why stick to Islam when its practices are so onerous that you can’t observe them? You get the point.
So you're is your independent thought comes from your personal experience? That is good to know.
I would love for you to detail your personal experience with Hamas to ad color and understanding to your opinion.click to expand
Where are your thoughts coming from? From somebody else (external source) because you can’t seem to trust your own mind or experiences.
Why are you of the opinion that Hamas is a noble entity protecting Palestinians from Zionists? I’d like to know that.
Posted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynWhat you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.Posted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
click to expand
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!
Honestly when you say you think that because your an independent thinker and can't show any reason for why you think that. I start to wonder if your independent thoughts are a little Islamophobic. And honestly western culture is Islamophobic, buy design. That shit has been bought and paid for. I posted my source.
I am not confused about how some Muslims cultures are extreme. I do wonder how they got that way, what were they like before they meet the CIA and the western military complex. What percentage of these groups or people are extreme, how did these practices come about? And what do thse people need to get these practices to end.
But again, I'm more interested in proof, and I want to have a transparent source.
click to expand
So what you posted a source? There’s a source for everything. Internet is littered with it. People who can’t think for themselves or need validations for their ideas need sources to support their beliefs. Remember, you won’t find proof of things. I did FOIA when I was younger for government agencies. They will never let top secret items be seen by people let alone their own employees. LOL. No powerful entity is going to do colossally criminal and devious things and drop clues for all Dora the explorers out there looking for uncover their insidious plans. It’s more like a mystery plot that brews in the minds of fantasists aka conspiracy theorists.
If I’m Islamophobic then you’re antisemite for writing what you did. Why can’t I just be an educated Muslim? Anytime someone shows dislike or disdain for something, why are they automatically presumed to be some sheep who has been fed something? I was born a Muslim. I was a practicing one in my youth, not some typical ignorant Muslim who didn’t drink or eat pork because it was Islamically prohibited. I actually studied the faith because my moral code has to make sense and I need to be able to abide by its tenets. I wasn’t going to be that pick and choose Muslims.
I can’t be that person who enjoys drinking but clutches to Islam and its belief because I’m born into it and told it’s the greatest religion. Majority of Muslims are ignorant about its teachings, tenets and pick and choose. If one is going to pick and choose things from this moral code, then why not form your own? Why stick to Islam when its practices are so onerous that you can’t observe them? You get the point.
So you're is your independent thought comes from your personal experience? That is good to know.
I would love for you to detail your personal experience with Hamas to ad color and understanding to your opinion.
Where are your thoughts coming from? From somebody else (external source) because you can’t seem to trust your own mind or experiences.
Why are you of the opinion that Hamas is a noble entity protecting Palestinians from Zionists? I’d like to know that.click to expand
I don't know, I'm genuinely asking these question, to you and anyone who holds this opinion. I've seem very little evidence to this claim, and what proof Israel provide complete falls apart, and has been proven over and over to be false. So now there are a lot of people asking questions should Hamas be condemned?
There was no proof Hamas running a command center under a hospital, But Israel built that command center.
No proof Hamas accidentally hit a a hospital, but there is proof Israel did it, after they blamed Hamas.
Now there is proof it was the IDF that killed so many festivals goers on Oct 7th. Israeli reporting it was the IDF that shot up their house and all people inside when Palestinians militant fighters were inside. These are reports from Israel.
The whole world can see the difference in hostages being released, some are smiling and laughing as they come back from reportedly being killed. And others have their face burned off.
So why is Hamas the bad guys here? Serious question.
Tbh @aquarius09 I could give two shits if Hamas is good or bad.
I'm here for the revolution!
For Israel (as it is) to fall, and the American government, economy, and way of life that is being held hostage by there interest the elite to fall.
I've been waiting this for like 20 years. Never before have I seen so many other people really take an interest in what is going on and how the world really works.
I'm here for the revolution!
For Israel (as it is) to fall, and the American government, economy, and way of life that is being held hostage by there interest the elite to fall.
I've been waiting this for like 20 years. Never before have I seen so many other people really take an interest in what is going on and how the world really works.
Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynPosted by aquarius09Posted by AstrobynWhat you think Hamas is there to benefit the people? Do you not know how these oppressive regimes work? I come from these nations. That’s how I know. Not everything is found in articles, stats and reports. Some things are seen with your eyes and using basic common sense. Not to mention, who is producing your sources? Normal people like yourself and me who have taken the liberty to be an independent thinker or think in general.Posted by aquarius09Cool, can you let me know where this information comes from? I'd like to look into the facts and sorce in more detail.Posted by TemporaryAccommodationWhile Israel is manipulating the masses via false propaganda on media, it doesn’t negate that Hamas is not some selfless, altruistic entity either. They are like Taliban who are fighting for their own self-interest, which is their self-rule over Palestinian people. It would establish their own oppressive and regressive regime the way Taliban did over their Afghans. Hamas is just as reprehensible and disgusting as the Zionist. It’s all just a fight for power.
Israel Posted that people should see the Hamas atrocities for themselves and Posted hamas.com as proof.
It's so fucking laughably bad, you can tell its made by Israel. The website is created by Wix for a start. An Israeli company. You think the group that hates Israel is going to use an Israeli company—
And then when you see the website itself, it's over the top cartoonishly evil. No mention of freeing Palestinians but death to all non believers instead 😂😂😂😂
And its in English!!!! Why the fuck would they make it in English, and not Arabic—
It's showing clips that Israel have claimed were attacks that has been called out as fake. Makes no sense for a real group to use these.
Honestly, you have to be intellectually crippled to believe this nonsense. The site itself has been flagged for a lot of malware, so big caution advised if you don't have really good antimalware, expect to have Israel snooping around your devices.
www.hamas.com
click to expand
No, I don't. But I would like to know. And I would like to know how you know.
My brain is my source. Independent thinker here not relying on books and media. My first post to the thread was also a rational thought. Do I need to write a book to be credible?
You don’t trust the media, why are you so trusting of other sources? Everything is capable
of manipulation because ultimately it is always produced by a human being. You think there’s accounting for shady things? “Let me do shady things and put it in writing,” said no one ever!
Honestly when you say you think that because your an independent thinker and can't show any reason for why you think that. I start to wonder if your independent thoughts are a little Islamophobic. And honestly western culture is Islamophobic, buy design. That shit has been bought and paid for. I posted my source.
I am not confused about how some Muslims cultures are extreme. I do wonder how they got that way, what were they like before they meet the CIA and the western military complex. What percentage of these groups or people are extreme, how did these practices come about? And what do thse people need to get these practices to end.
But again, I'm more interested in proof, and I want to have a transparent source.
click to expand
So what you posted a source? There’s a source for everything. Internet is littered with it. People who can’t think for themselves or need validations for their ideas need sources to support their beliefs. Remember, you won’t find proof of things. I did FOIA when I was younger for government agencies. They will never let top secret items be seen by people let alone their own employees. LOL. No powerful entity is going to do colossally criminal and devious things and drop clues for all Dora the explorers out there looking for uncover their insidious plans. It’s more like a mystery plot that brews in the minds of fantasists aka conspiracy theorists.
If I’m Islamophobic then you’re antisemite for writing what you did. Why can’t I just be an educated Muslim? Anytime someone shows dislike or disdain for something, why are they automatically presumed to be some sheep who has been fed something? I was born a Muslim. I was a practicing one in my youth, not some typical ignorant Muslim who didn’t drink or eat pork because it was Islamically prohibited. I actually studied the faith because my moral code has to make sense and I need to be able to abide by its tenets. I wasn’t going to be that pick and choose Muslims.
I can’t be that person who enjoys drinking but clutches to Islam and its belief because I’m born into it and told it’s the greatest religion. Majority of Muslims are ignorant about its teachings, tenets and pick and choose. If one is going to pick and choose things from this moral code, then why not form your own? Why stick to Islam when its practices are so onerous that you can’t observe them? You get the point.
So you're is your independent thought comes from your personal experience? That is good to know.
I would love for you to detail your personal experience with Hamas to ad color and understanding to your opinion.
Where are your thoughts coming from? From somebody else (external source) because you can’t seem to trust your own mind or experiences.
Why are you of the opinion that Hamas is a noble entity protecting Palestinians from Zionists? I’d like to know that.
I don't know, I'm genuinely asking these question, to you and anyone who holds this opinion. I've seem very little evidence to this claim, and what proof Israel provide complete falls apart, and has been proven over and over to be false. So now there are a lot of people asking questions should Hamas be condemned?
There was no proof Hamas running a command center under a hospital, But Israel built that command center.
No proof Hamas accidentally hit a a hospital, but there is proof Israel did it, after they blamed Hamas.
Now there is proof it was the IDF that killed so many festivals goers on Oct 7th. Israeli reporting it was the IDF that shot up their house and all people inside when Palestinians militant fighters were inside. These are reports from Israel.
The whole world can see the difference in hostages being released, some are smiling and laughing as they come back from reportedly being killed. And others have their face burned off.
So why is Hamas the bad guys here? Serious question.click to expand
I’m not talking about the present conflict only. I’m saying both the Zionist and Hamas are greedy and fighting for their own cause. Nobody is fighting for the people.
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