Obamacare..lol (Page 2)

You will do as your emperor commands you to, and you will like it you peasants!!

Stoic, I love how he told the TV people last night what we peasants are and are not allowed to do with regard to health insurance

Just imagine what the 0bama voters would be doing if President Bush were to tell them who is and is not allowed to have medical coverage. Think about that for a minute

Google the video of the showdown between the Colorado Representative Corey Gardner and democrat super bitch Kathleen Sebelius

I'll have to come back to this thread another day. I guess there really are people who don't know what Obamacare has done to many people out there other than the tax payers putting more money into the black hole created by our govt.

I have a date with four other Scorpio's this entire weekend to celebrate all of our b-days. Full moon weekend too...it should be interesting to say the least. Have a great weekend everyone..I know I will. 😉

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My colors are red, white and blue! 😉

don't lie, it's money green.

Hahahahaha!!!

"Wolverines!" 😉

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Heck yeah! 😉

Seraph:

Violation of the U.S. Constitution, Amendment 5. To wit: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Acting as Commander in Chief, Obama has chosen to maintain the operation of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility which serves the fundamental purpose of detaining persons whose very presence is de facto evidence that due process of law has been abrogated.

His authorized assassination of persons without arrest or trial de facto deprived them of due process of law. Said individuals were punished for alleged capital crimes without having been first indicted by a grand jury.

Violation of the U.S. Constitution, Amendment 6. To wit: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

He has skipped the "prosecution" component that is required before the sentencing of any accused can occur. In authorizing the assassination of persons, he has acted as accuser, judge, and jury, unlawfully depriving them of their right to a public trial, by an impartial jury, to be informed of the nature of the accusation leveled against them, to have the opportunity to be confronted with the witnesses brought against them, to have the opportunity to offer a defense, and the opportunity to be defended by counsel.

He has committed many more unlawful acts which I haven't adequate time to research and enumerate. Whether he has acted more or less lawfully than any of his predecessors I am unprepared to comment upon at the present time, but I trust we can agree that he has acted unlawfully.

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Seraph:

Whether he has acted more or less lawfully than any of his predecessors I am unprepared to comment upon at the present time, but I trust we can agree that he has acted unlawfully.

Yes, we're in agreement.

Thank you for posting at length about the issue.

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My pleasure. *tips hat*

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You can fly into a mad rage at the very thought of him if that suits you, but leave race (and sneaky little allusions to it) out of the debate.

He was born in the United States. It makes him American, regardless of his ancestry. And by every law of your land, he *is* President, and he has not acted illegally.

The portion I have bolded is false, although perhaps not with regard to his adventures in healthcare.

The Libya situation? That nuclear dumping site issue? I'll grant that these things are probably actionable, and one of them certainly was. By the same token, however, some of the previous administration's schemes are equally actionable.

But far from suggesting that exercising executive powers to thwart the Rule of Law is permissible... , it might help to remember that the Obama administration kicked off its first term in the wake of substantial economic and foreign policy damage, which the outgoing executive was not made to answer for.

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I'm not sure how that would affect anything that has been mentioned.

"Equally actionable" -- I'm frowning on (what I believe is) deflection, here.

Surely you aren't suggesting that two wrongs make a right, or that one alleged incident excuses another (disclaimer noted)?

I'm not sure what else to take from "it may help to remember....."

How so?

Ta taaaa peeps 😄

Ya, CCR

Happy Birthday LetitB 🙂

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Posted by seraph

You can fly into a mad rage at the very thought of him if that suits you, but leave race (and sneaky little allusions to it) out of the debate.

He was born in the United States. It makes him American, regardless of his ancestry. And by every law of your land, he *is* President, and he has not acted illegally.

The portion I have bolded is false, although perhaps not with regard to his adventures in healthcare.

The Libya situation? That nuclear dumping site issue? I'll grant that these things are probably actionable, and one of them certainly was. By the same token, however, some of the previous administration's schemes are equally actionable.

But far from suggesting that exercising executive powers to thwart the Rule of Law is permissible... , it might help to remember that the Obama administration kicked off its first term in the wake of substantial economic and foreign policy damage, which the outgoing executive was not made to answer for.

I'm not sure how that would affect anything that has been mentioned.

"Equally actionable" -- I'm frowning on (what I believe is) deflection, here.

Surely you aren't suggesting that two wrongs make a right, or that one alleged incident excuses another (disclaimer noted)?

I'm not sure what else to take from "it may help to remember....."

How so?

I'm suggesting that Obama is no more the green-eyed monster than the individual whom he succeeded (and whose disaster he was left to put in order.)

It isn't a deflection so much as a plea for perspective.

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I disagree-- but I think that's another thread, entirely.

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