Over the Counter Abortion Pill (Page 2)

Posted by TigerCap

Posted by VenusAquarius
The extent to which you fear reproduction, should be equal to the choice of birth control.

Therefore, if the idea of impregnating a women would cause you to commit a crime against her....

...choose vasectomy, or abstain from intercourse.

Can I point out that vasectomy is hardly a realistic option for a 26 year old. It is essentially permanently sterilizing a guy.

Abortion, when done in a sterile environment where people know what they are doing, has essentially zero impact on the chances of reproducing for a woman as it does no damage to the uterus. Keep in mind though, this only applies to abortion using a pill.
Operational abortus on the other hand does increase the risk at complications during later pregnancies.
The psychological part is definitely there with most women though. So even that is not something to be taken lightly.

Keep in mind that different cultures have different views on anticonception methods. In Northern Europe (AKA where Norway is located) it is very common to do away with condoms in a long term relationship and rely on the pill or intrautrine device (those are great btw).

With the girl I'm dating right now she is on the pill whereas I use a condom. Get them in the right size and they can be comfortable enough at minimal the risk of breaking. I for one am glad I took my own size and ordered the right condoms. Couldn't find them in any store so it either didn't work or I stayed away from having intercourse. There are numerous other ways to enjoy each other's bodies.

Abstaining from intercourse... well good luck with that around horny twenty-somethings.

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So says someone who lacks self-control.

Posted by LetltB
Punishment? Off with his dick with a butter knife.

Very fitting.

Off with her tubes, too.

snip snip, chop chop.

Equality for everyone.

Posted by MrFirebird
Likewise, also, a woman, who CAN carry the child to term, can sign over parental rights and give the child to the biological father, if he wants the child or put the child up for adoption, rather than just murder the child without his knowledge or consent.

Exactly. It goes both ways.

They make the decision together and no one has to feel trapped.

Posted by truecap

Posted by MrFirebird
Likewise, also, a woman, who CAN carry the child to term, can sign over parental rights and give the child to the biological father, if he wants the child or put the child up for adoption, rather than just murder the child without his knowledge or consent.

Exactly. It goes both ways.

They make the decision together and no one has to feel trapped.

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While I am opposed to abortion, I think, in a way, there needs to be some serious dialog on the matter of abortion, women's rights and the man's rights and how the law should intervene.
It's too one sided, and since emotional harm can occur to either or both the father and mother,
there needs be some rational thought put into it.

After all, it took two to make the baby. BOTH should have a say. If she don't want it, fine, let him
have the child. And if he don't want the child, then fine, let them both give the child up for adoption.
REALLY, abortion should reserved for only when the mother's life is TRULY endangered and she should still have a say. Even if she is willing to die so the child might be born and live.
I have far more admiration for that woman than I ever will for a woman who chose to abort simply because her life was more important than the child or worse, the child simply cramped her goals and ambitions, or worse because the child may have birth defects. Sometimes, we can learn a lot of humanity and compassion through priceless children born with birth defects.

I agree.

One thing I surely hate is seeing the much larger picture. Understanding it and what consequences lies ahead for the nation and the entire world.

Pride and hate, greed on top of selfish are behind most, if not all of the world's awful woes.
What keeps all that perpetually going is the enabling through unforgiveness and revenge. Pride cannot forgive and hate demands vengeance.
And violence begets violence.

Posted by TigerCap
And then there is this:

Posted by LetltB
I'm all about choice, to each his/her own...but this caused me to pause due to the amount of nut jobs out there...
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What a guy eh? I guess having these over the counter may be a bad thing?

Alternatives:
- Someone committed suicide with painkillers. Guess having these over the counter may be a bad thing?
- Bullets shot from a gun killed a child. Guess having these over the counter may be a bad thing?
- Someone killed another person with their car. Guess having these over the counter may be a bad thing?
- People die from smoking. Guess having these over the counter may be a bad thing?

In all these cases it depends on the person using it. It's not the product that is dangerous but the person using it.

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-painkillers won't be over the counter, for christ sakes, they can't even control the epidemic of them in prescription form

-bullets sold over the counter don't kill children or innocent people the fucktard/nut job holding the gun with the bullet does.

-a car isn't a weapon to kill people the fucktards driving erratic, texting or drunk is

-cigarettes like birth control are a choice BOTH have side affects, BOTH are loaded with chemicals

In this thread the subject is a NUT JOB LOSER decides to kill a fetus and could have potentially killed the mother carrying the fetus at 12 weeks both of which had no choice with his brilliant decision.

Posted by TigerCap
Can I point out that vasectomy is hardly a realistic option for a 26 year old. It is essentially permanently sterilizing a guy.

Abortion, when done in a sterile environment where people know what they are doing, has essentially zero impact on the chances of reproducing

Vasectomy is very much a realistic option for a man in his 20's and older. If you spoke to an expert on the procedure, you'd find that any day a man can go into a very sterilized environment have one done, and when he's ready to breed, can go right back into that sterilized environment and have it reversed.

Regarding abortion, I suggest you read up on it...and what it does physically to a woman's cervix and womb no matter what expert performs it. (and mentally as some here have brought up)

I wonder, do parents talk to their kids about this stuff any more??

Posted by MrFirebird
My thoughts considers only the strong. The weak will not and cannot accept them.
Only the strong can demonstrate such self-control.

I enjoyed reading your thoughts. It was well put into perspective.

I maintain it all STARTS in the home. Kids at age 10-11 are having sex. The twenty something females are these 10-11 yr. old role models. Look at the majority of twenty something females today..it's no wonder. They are completely out of control and just don't THINK they have lacked parenting.

Regardless, if parents were hands on with their children and IN THE HOME with the kids, TEACHING them, RAISING them it sure would help. Typically it's an 11 year old taking care of the younger siblings playing mommy and daddy. It's ridiculous. So I whole heartedly agree...DON'T BREED until you are over 30, stable and can at least raise the children you breed. Break the chain of bad parenting. That's a start.

Pretty disrurbing, in the UK you don't have to pay to have an abortion

Posted by P-Angel

Women need to be brought down a notch anyway ... they have this irrational belief that they rule men, and that they can manipulate them by getting pregnant.

Yep

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Posted by truecap

Posted by MrFirebird
Likewise, also, a woman, who CAN carry the child to term, can sign over parental rights and give the child to the biological father, if he wants the child or put the child up for adoption, rather than just murder the child without his knowledge or consent.

Exactly. It goes both ways.

They make the decision together and no one has to feel trapped.

While I am opposed to abortion, I think, in a way, there needs to be some serious dialog on the matter of abortion, women's rights and the man's rights and how the law should intervene.
It's too one sided, and since emotional harm can occur to either or both the father and mother,
there needs be some rational thought put into it.

After all, it took two to make the baby. BOTH should have a say. If she don't want it, fine, let him
have the child. And if he don't want the child, then fine, let them both give the child up for adoption.
REALLY, abortion should reserved for only when the mother's life is TRULY endangered and she should still have a say. Even if she is willing to die so the child might be born and live.
I have far more admiration for that woman than I ever will for a woman who chose to abort simply because her life was more important than the child or worse, the child simply cramped her goals and ambitions, or worse because the child may have birth defects. Sometimes, we can learn a lot of humanity and compassion through priceless children born with birth defects.

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What if the orphaned kid turns out to have a horrible life?