pedophilia

OK I was discussing this topic with friends the other day, and they all seemed shocked by my views on the subject.

Obviously I DO NOT condone pedophilia but i said that it is a psychological disorder, and that we should be grateful we were not born with it. People can not help the make-up of their brain, but we CAN all choose whether or not to act upon it.

Now I do not feel sorry for the pedo's that ACT on there instincts, as it is never ok to mess with kids, but i do feel for the ones who do not act on it and accept they will never be happy in life. The ones who get castrated, the ones who have tried to be in relationships with adults but they are just not attracted to them. You cant help who you are attracted to. Im sure most pedophiles do not want to be attracted to kids, im sure they would like to be in proper relationships with adults.

I remember watching a show a year or so ago, and there was a guy on it. Married, had two kids and he was a pedophile, he had never acted on it, but eventually at the age of 40 he confessed to his wife, who freaked and called the police (which I can not blame her for) The police arrested but could not charge the guy as he hadnt actually done anything, there was no child pornography on his computer and he had never done anything illegal with a child. At the end of the show it explained that the guy got castrated in the end and lived alone in a Cabin, and wasnt able to see his kids. All i could think is that because of some fuck up in his brain he will die alone.

Also i suppose it doesnt help these days when people are trying to make their young children "sexy".
-Recently Primark had to retract their padded bra for 8 year olds!! what sort of parent buys there 8 year old a padded bra?!

-Also remember a shop that was selling pants for 5 year olds that had cherrys on and said "eat me".

-I also heard my 5 year old little cousin singing "rude boy" the other day, kids should not be singing these things!

What the hell is the world coming to!!!!!

Rant over lol

Bwahahaha towards the end of your rant. Too funny (padded bras? "Rude Boy"? Wahahahaha!).

But paedophilia is kinda fucked. I personally think it's only a mental disorder for SOME of the perpetrators.

Some of these people are merely evil, men so driven by the need to dominate they seek out people who are completely helpless.

My opinion, though.

Pesca I agree I also feel no sympathy for those, as they are acting on it.

Posted by Pesca2
so it is not only the sexual gratification they seek but uttermost control.

That'she key word right there: control.

You always read how Fritzl locked his daughter in a cellar etc

Let's go to a fucked up place for a moment: It's not like these people even treat the children with respect or care like normal people would treat their ADULT sexual partners/lovers.

It is a selfish ONE SIDED satisfaction of a sexual need regardless of the other's feelings.

I personally feel that these people woulde rapists if the whole attracted to children thing wasn't present.

Yes I recall a man, a quite famous gay actor (i'll have to try and look his name up), he was sexually abused all his younger life but never told anybody because he enjoyed it. Obviously as a child he didnt realise that what was happening to him shouldnt have been!

Fuck me, we're staring into hell now, aren't we?

For myself I don't give a f u c k about someones brain make up. They might not be able to control the feelings they have but they can control their actions. if someone harms innocent kids not only do I hope they die alone but I also hope it's a slow painful death. If it's a case that the o.p. described about the man who didn't molest anyone but isolated himself so he wouldn't give into his urges I still don't care if that's what he has to do that's what he has to do. Even if it's not his fault about how he feels it's not any kid's fault either.

Posted by &2gedanow
Bwahahaha towards the end of your rant. Too funny (padded bras? "Rude Boy"? Wahahahaha!).

But paedophilia is kinda fucked. I personally think it's only a mental disorder for SOME of the perpetrators.

Some of these people are merely evil, men so driven by the need to dominate they seek out people who are completely helpless.

My opinion, though.

Agreed.
children are easy victims.

Posted by virgodreamz
For myself I don't give a f u c k about someones brain make up. They might not be able to control the feelings they have but they can control their actions.

Did the OP NOT make this point? I'm quite sure she did.

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Yes she did, but so what? I'm talking about why I don't feel sorry for any pedos- because despite their urges they still have choices. Bottom line: I don't feel sorry for a bunch of sick pervs that fantasize about doing disgusting things to kids. Big deal sue me *shrugs*

Posted by EmotionalMoon
exactly i hate this topic... its the same as raping a consenting adult and the man saying I cant help it its the way my mind is wired! Do we have have a disorder for everything this days.

Obviously they can help it because they had a choice. Going through with the Rape is wrong, but can the person help the thoughts that go through their head? I know I have no control over my thoughts and the way my body reacts to things. The fact they CHOSE to do it is what is wrong.

No one can change the make-up of their brain, all they can do is choose whether or not to act upon it.

I am a woman and get turned on by men, its the way my brain works, luckily that part of me is functioning fine. But what if it wasnt ok for me to get turned on by men? I would have to CHOOSE to spend my whole life pretending that I didnt (like some gay people had/have to, even though it is now legal in most countries), or CHOOSE the life of celabacy, or CHOOSE to do it anyway.

When it comes to Pedophiles they have the same CHOICES, the ones that act on it I dont even have words for them, but the ones who do go to the extremes of castration, and isolation to try and stop these thoughts, I do feel for.

lmfao @ totstitute!!! it almost sounds like prostitute LOL that's hilarious

oh..

tot-stitute?! Wahahahahahaha!

......kill them all with fire. watch them burn. toasty pedos are yummy...

my view is that its sick and god what have we become letting our children dress like that. i doubt my daughter will ever look like that...no make up till shes 16 atleast. unless mom says otherwise. and her clothes will fit her.....nothing skimpy till shes old enough to own her own house...not even then. never. that stuff is for the bedroom only.

I only have one thing for the peds its a 45/70 my father owns.

They all need to be locked up and the key tossed away. That is all they do, sit in jail and plot doing it again. I am all for sterilization/eradication. The thought of anyone looking at a child and thinking such things is just sick. It makes me want to vomit.
I could give a shit less what their mental issue is, the act itself is beyond humanity.
And that is just the ones that have been CAUGHT. Oh God. It's unsupportable. A rather nice Indian tactic was to flay the skin back from the abdomen and apply hot coals. Damn I'd have made a good Roman for this subject matter alone.

the romans were peds

OH FFS Tate, I was not isolating that particular aspect, I meant a thirst for blood and destruction. Don't start an argument with me right now, I beg of you. I'm not in the mind frame for it.

excuseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee me

Why, did you fart? I know you were pointing out a fact, yes the Romans were indeed peds. Just this whole topic sickens me beyond belief. Put me in a shit mood.

Posted by libra sun

Posted by EmotionalMoon
exactly i hate this topic... its the same as raping a consenting adult and the man saying I cant help it its the way my mind is wired! Do we have have a disorder for everything this days.

I know I have no control over my thoughts and the way my body reacts to things.

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Wait...what? You have no control over your thoughts? Who is controlling them then?

^ Now that is an idea I can get behind. With a large pitchfork.

Good thinking. I might 'OOPS' an air bubble into someones neck. 😉

I completely get where you're coming from, librasun. I'm sure by now you see how your objectivity and mere observation will only bring about narrowed, emotionally-charged responses.

I've brought this up before IRL pertaining to pedophiles and those who we deem as "evil". I've always thought these people were just ill; crossed wires in the brain make-up. It's not excusing the behaviors in which they acted out. I just try to see it for what it is and my heart goes out to the cause of their suffering (and for us on the receiving end as well!).

I don't think they're excuses, but explanations.

And yes, there are explanations for serial killers, as well lol

I don't believe in good and evil.

Posted by MsPisces.
And yes, there are explanations for serial killers, as well lol

I don't believe in good and evil.

Nor do I Ms. P...
I believe in sick and well and these folks are sick (in the head that is). I believe it's a form of mental illness. I concur with your thoughts, LibraSun.

Posted by EmotionalMoon
There's plenty of others things in the world to have empathy for.

Amen, Sister!

the topic doesn't suck, nor does it anger you. pedofiles anger you. don't blame the OP for bringing this up.

it's like, people here were not aware before. Now all of a sudden their all sickened and disgusted.

pfft, nobody like pedos, they should be hung, drawn and quartered, just don't blame the the topic creator for something she hasn't done.

I know this is a contraversial and upsetting topic, and didnt intend to offend anyone, was just intersted to see if anyone else looked at this the same way as I do. As I expected some do, but most dont. Everyone is entitiled to there views, although I would just like to reinforce the fact that this topic was NOT about the ones who have acted on there urges. It's about the ones who will do anything to try and make these thoughts go away.

I understand as a parent people are going to be naturally more defensive of the subject. I do not have any children but I do help my cousin raise her 2 children, and feel very protective over them. As I mentioned in the first post it was my little cousin singing "rude boy" which actually made me think how messed up this world is becoming. When I was 5 I was singing nursery rhymes!

I dont think there is anyone out there in the right mind who is going to come here and defend anyone who has harmed a child, we all no it is wrong. And I have not made this topic to defend anyone who has harmed a child, just to put a different perspective on things, about the ones who DO NOT act on it.

The children dressed provocatively was a seperate point, about parents not really helping the situation. I dont blame my cousin for singing the song I blame society for making it ok for this song to be winning the kids choice award! And yes nursery rhymes though they have darker stories behind them, I would prefer a child to be singing about the black death and slavery (baa baa black sheep), then about how they want a guy to fuck them!

Yes, my recoiling had nothing to do with you libra sun and everything to do with being a mother and a woman who really loves children.

Going back to testing on peds. I am for killing them I have no problem with killing but I would do it in a fast and efficient way. Perhaps testing for the good of mankind would be an answer.

Posted by EmotionalMoon
We are not stupid well most of us aren't we understand the topic but there are lot of people on this board with there Mother or Father head on. This topic really sucks...It actually angers me. As others have said Murders (some) minds are wired incorrectly... There's plenty of others things in the world to have empathy for.

I'm not sure it's a question of empathy, but more understanding. I feel that the more we understand why the people are the way they are, we can determine how best to prevent and help treat such awful things like this. To just dismiss them as gross or sick fucks isn't enough, in my opinion. I think Libra Sun does a service to us to bring up such a topic. It may make others uncomfortable, but that's just life. The more you know, often the better you will do.

I might add that I am a mother of a young child. When my son was 2 he was being babysat at a friend's house. This friend had a roomie who ended up going to jail because he molested an 11 year old neighbor girl and my friend's 3 year old niece. Luckily for me, he didn't touch my son (he was examined, she was always around him, and the rapist was usually working when my son was there anyway) and wasn't into young boys.

I have had a personal brush with this illness. It angers, scares, and disgusts me to no end. I still haven't wavered on my POV about it though.

yeah it is! especially when people don't send pictures of their chesticles when told to.

is that a serious video?? It cant be?!

lol, DK ... love the video ...

A couple things come to mind when reading this thread.

1. In agreement that this is a disorder of the brain

**** curiously examining whether coming from an abusive childhood is the cause, or the effect (karma) stemming from the disorder. Do pedos bring themselves to abusive homes, even at birth because of being born with this energy? Or, were they created, raising to be abusers because of being a victim of circumstances?

**** are the children the Pedos defile, did their own karma bring the monsters to them?

2. I find it equally disturbing at how many people don't care, and have said in here they didn't care about it being a disorder .. for not caring about it, enables the uncaring energy to continue projection, which is just as bad, in my opinion, of the pedo.

**** if you don't care about the sickness of the person, then you cannot care about the innocence of the person they abuse .. because, this person can grow up to be the abuser, at which time, you will turn your back in regards of care on the same person you claim at this time to care for.

**** if you do not care about the ill, then you are ill, yourself and no clue that it's an illness. You want the right to judge, without any having to do a self evaluation, which makes you have the same potential of harming someone without any knowledge of your actions being wrong.

3. The store you told was very disturbing, because the man didn't do anything wrong. He shouldn't have had to endure what he did, because he has enough self awareness to know that he was abnormal in his desires, and that he could never 'act' upon them. If he never violated his children then he should have a right to be a father to them.

**** should gay men not be allowed to have sons because they are gay?
**** just because a person has desires doesn't mean they have them for their children

**** just because you like to have your nipples pinched doesn't mean you look at your girl child and wish to pinch hers.

That's ^^^ absurd. If the man never did anything to act on his disorder, then it's an outrage that he be punished for somethign he never did.

We need to address the wellbeing of children no matter what it takes. I believe that everyone is responsible for children. All the counseling in the world doesn't help these vile filthy disgusting people. Furthermore people don't change. All we do is give people chances at the cost of the innocent. I have zero tolerance for people that prey on children. I say just get rid of them.