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Time to scrap the lethal injection method and fire up "ole' sparky".
Jimmy Lee Gray, 34
Execution: 2 September 1983
State: Mississippi
Method: Gas chamber
What happened: During the 47 minutes of the execution, Gray —foamed at the mouth and [beat] his head violently against a metal pole just behind the chair.?? Executioners drew the blind on the viewing chamber after a few minutes.
Thomas Ketchum, 37
Execution: 26 April 1901
State: New Mexico
Method: Hanging
What happened: Because executioners had too much rope and built the gallows too tall, Ketchum fell with such force that —His head was severed from the body by the rope as if by a guilllotine,?? as the San Francisco Chronicle told it at the time. —The headless trunk pitched forward toward the spectators and blood spurted upon those nearest the scaffold.??
William Kemmler, 30
Execution: 6 August 1890
State: New York
Method: Electric chair
What happened: Executioners declared Kemmler dead after 10 seconds, but a bleeding cut on his hand made them realize he was still alive. They turned the chair on twice more, during which time Kemmler convulsed and moaned, and after which he died.
Wallace Wilkerson, 45
Execution: 16 May 1879
State: Territory of Utah
Method: Firing squad
What happened: Seated before the squad, the volley of bullets only knocking him out of the chair while he screamed —Oh my God! My God! They have missed!?? He bled to death 27 minutes later.
Henry Alphonso Davis and Davis Carlton
Execution: 17 May 1879
State: North Carolina
Method: Hanging
What happened: Executioners used rope that was too long, and had to raise the men off the ground, slowly strangling them.
Execution: 2 September 1983
State: Mississippi
Method: Gas chamber
What happened: During the 47 minutes of the execution, Gray —foamed at the mouth and [beat] his head violently against a metal pole just behind the chair.?? Executioners drew the blind on the viewing chamber after a few minutes.
Thomas Ketchum, 37
Execution: 26 April 1901
State: New Mexico
Method: Hanging
What happened: Because executioners had too much rope and built the gallows too tall, Ketchum fell with such force that —His head was severed from the body by the rope as if by a guilllotine,?? as the San Francisco Chronicle told it at the time. —The headless trunk pitched forward toward the spectators and blood spurted upon those nearest the scaffold.??
William Kemmler, 30
Execution: 6 August 1890
State: New York
Method: Electric chair
What happened: Executioners declared Kemmler dead after 10 seconds, but a bleeding cut on his hand made them realize he was still alive. They turned the chair on twice more, during which time Kemmler convulsed and moaned, and after which he died.
Wallace Wilkerson, 45
Execution: 16 May 1879
State: Territory of Utah
Method: Firing squad
What happened: Seated before the squad, the volley of bullets only knocking him out of the chair while he screamed —Oh my God! My God! They have missed!?? He bled to death 27 minutes later.
Henry Alphonso Davis and Davis Carlton
Execution: 17 May 1879
State: North Carolina
Method: Hanging
What happened: Executioners used rope that was too long, and had to raise the men off the ground, slowly strangling them.
So he deserved what he had coming to him. I don't care how it has to be done. It happened and he deserved it.
Posted by LetltB
My opinion, I really could care less about the guy. He could've stayed and rotted in prison. He was kept from society. I also believe survivors of victims/immediate family should be able to make the decision after all facts are brought to trial and the defendent is found guilty as to whether or not an eye for eye should be the proper punishment.
On a side note, this IS the second time this botched execution happened in this state. Why is this new drug being introduced for execution when other executions and the drug they've always used has gone forward without incident?
Because our criminals are enjoying execution at the hands of the the LOWEST BIDDER.
Like anything else with the Government.
Or maybe someone in purchasing is sleeping with someone at the drug company.
I kid, but I don't think the reason is likely to reasonable-- it's something monumentally stupid.
What surprises me (it shouldn't, but it does) is that after ALL these years, there is not a
contingency plan in place.
wtf
It should be mandatory.
The shortage of drugs (mainly sodium thiopental) is due to a European Union campaign against the death penalty mainly focused on the US. I heard about this a few years ago, pharmaceutical companies started to feel the pressure, which lead to them refusing to ship the drug to the US once they figured out what we were using it for. (lol, sorry idk why that's funny... they were like "fuck? we've been helping you kill people this whole time?")
It seems that the US no longer has the capability to manufacture these drugs
The British government has since banned shipments of this drug to the US,
Italy says "we will give it to you as long as you promise not to kill people, your not gonna kill people right? fuck ok no we cant sell it to you"
Germany said "we don't need this kind of pressure, we got enough controversy in this area"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/world/europe/31iht-letter31.html
And that's why we are changing our cocktails, but I hear it they also have to go through a lot of legislation to get a new mix approved.
It seems that the US no longer has the capability to manufacture these drugs
The British government has since banned shipments of this drug to the US,
Italy says "we will give it to you as long as you promise not to kill people, your not gonna kill people right? fuck ok no we cant sell it to you"
Germany said "we don't need this kind of pressure, we got enough controversy in this area"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/world/europe/31iht-letter31.html
And that's why we are changing our cocktails, but I hear it they also have to go through a lot of legislation to get a new mix approved.
Posted by LetltB
I provided a link earlier on the legal findings which include his mental state by doctors a couple of pages back.
People get misdiagnosed all the time. It proves nothing. Murderers get away with their crimes all the time by faking some sort of disorder, which gets approved by some professional. Remember the guy who murdered his whole family & claimed he was sleep walking during the murders? He got acquitted because some quack showed the courts the "proof". But others in the field disagreed. My point is, no 3 or 4 doctors are going to return with the same results in proving someone's mental health.
Oscar Pistorius is also going to get away with murder with his fake GAD diagnosis.
Posted by LIb4Life
I could care less about about a MONSTER that would inflict this kinda torture on another human being, and I'm sure his parents would feel the same as me or any other parent that looses a child to tragedy ...
.
how could any person possibly agree or not with you .... when you no clue what I was saying.
I am talking about the case in point, and NOT about whatever it is you have in your mind.
the man in this case has a parent, so your same theory of how a parent feels applies. It's not rocket science. How is it possible that you can't grasp such an elemtary concept.
unless of course, you can't figure out how to pry your panties out of your ass ..... and them being wedged prevents you from rationalizing.
^^ Hid my post because it didn't pertain to the topic at hand.
Forvi e typos, in car
Seriously they need to just bring back the guillotine. It's instant guaranteed death. Absolutely no question about it.
Much more humane IMO than anything else, especially the electric chair or injected poison.
Much more humane IMO than anything else, especially the electric chair or injected poison.
^ and cheaper, too. Pretty much just a one-time investment, plus perhaps sharpening of the blades occasionally.
Posted by jeannegrey
Speaking as a an economomist:
The death penalty is not cost effective. It costs more to execute someone than it does to incarcerate for life...
Abortion... now that is cost effective--if you really wanna get technical about it. Unwanted child: aborted--the original cost: is around $ 500- $ 1,000. A unwanted child forced onto a parent that DOES NOt want the child? *COULD* end up abused or in the foster system---costing tax payers MUCH more than $ 500.
NOW obviously---this is all horrible ways of seeing these two issues. But in terms of what is "best for society" in terms of COST ONLY, that is the straight facts.
(just FYI: these are not MY personal views on these subjects...) please don't go insane on me ...from a political or moral stance...
You really don't leave us much choice.
If we should not consider human life in strictly economical terms, in your opinion--
Then why are you offering us the material that allows us to do so, efficiently?
(just FYI: That's a bullshit disclaimer you have there.)
🙂
Raises hand:
I made a Guillotine as a history project in high school and got an A+
On the guillotine note, I'm all about the sure and effective thing. 😉
I made a Guillotine as a history project in high school and got an A+
On the guillotine note, I'm all about the sure and effective thing. 😉
Would be perfect for the pedophiles imo...
"YOU WILL LIVE, BUT WITHOUT THY PENIS"
😄
"YOU WILL LIVE, BUT WITHOUT THY PENIS"
😄
I watched a documentary on lethal injection. Below is an excerpt. It was extremely interesting.
http://time.com/#101143/lethal-injection-creator-jay-chapman-botched-executions/
http://time.com/#101143/lethal-injection-creator-jay-chapman-botched-executions/
Posted by DonAmanMarat
I oppose the death penalty.
Not because its cruel, unusual or sadistic, politics, economy ...non of this bullshit!
Its just too goddamn lenient!
For example...
When you were a child and did something wrong, your dad gave you a spanking!
Spanking was never too bad (you got used to it, forgot about it )and continued on with your mischievious ways.
It was the when he'd lock you in a bathroom for an hour or so, you'd truly think about what you did.
From my experience it was much more worst than corporal punishment.
He died a slow death, system did him favor!
I SEE HIM AS AN ESCAPEE. HE'S A COWARD ASS FUGITIVE!
They shoulda locked him in a cell for ENTIRE life with limited access to food, water, and human contact so he's a living dead with very little to think, except for "WHAT I DONE?" "WHAT WOULD I HAVE DONE DIFFERENT?"
Running the picture about the last moments of his free life....
OVER AND OVER til the levee finally breaks.
These thoughts can run you mad in 2 minutes.
Imagine em for 25+ years!
Yea, except it's more like having taxpayers pay your room and board while you jerk off to Jerry Springer in the rec room.
Posted by munchkinPosted by DonAmanMarat
I oppose the death penalty.
Not because its cruel, unusual or sadistic, politics, economy ...non of this bullshit!
Its just too goddamn lenient!
For example...
When you were a child and did something wrong, your dad gave you a spanking!
Spanking was never too bad (you got used to it, forgot about it )and continued on with your mischievious ways.
It was the when he'd lock you in a bathroom for an hour or so, you'd truly think about what you did.
From my experience it was much more worst than corporal punishment.
He died a slow death, system did him favor!
I SEE HIM AS AN ESCAPEE. HE'S A COWARD ASS FUGITIVE!
They shoulda locked him in a cell for ENTIRE life with limited access to food, water, and human contact so he's a living dead with very little to think, except for "WHAT I DONE?" "WHAT WOULD I HAVE DONE DIFFERENT?"
Running the picture about the last moments of his free life....
OVER AND OVER til the levee finally breaks.
These thoughts can run you mad in 2 minutes.
Imagine em for 25+ years!
Yea, except it's more like having taxpayers pay your room and board while you jerk off to Jerry Springer in the rec room.click to expand
These.
Posted by P-AngelPosted by LIb4Life
I could care less about about a MONSTER that would inflict this kinda torture on another human being, and I'm sure his parents would feel the same as me or any other parent that looses a child to tragedy ...
.
how could any person possibly agree or not with you .... when you no clue what I was saying.
I am talking about the case in point, and NOT about whatever it is you have in your mind.
the man in this case has a parent, so your same theory of how a parent feels applies. It's not rocket science. How is it possible that you can't grasp such an elemtary concept.
unless of course, you can't figure out how to pry your panties out of your ass ..... and them being wedged prevents you from rationalizing.click to expand
Exactly! Just as you don't get my point, I don't get yours, and yeah...you're right...I don't have a clue as to what the hell you are trying to say because right now you are going around in circles about a bunch of nothing. You've taken a simple azz comment that even a toddler can comprehend and somehow twisted in that feeble little mind of yours. ANNNYWAY...I'll pry my panties from my azz, when you get you nose out of yours since you obviously think your shyt don't stink.
Posted by WaterCupPosted by LetltB
I provided a link earlier on the legal findings which include his mental state by doctors a couple of pages back.
People get misdiagnosed all the time. It proves nothing. Murderers get away with their crimes all the time by faking some sort of disorder, which gets approved by some professional. Remember the guy who murdered his whole family & claimed he was sleep walking during the murders? He got acquitted because some quack showed the courts the "proof". But others in the field disagreed. My point is, no 3 or 4 doctors are going to return with the same results in proving someone's mental health.
Oscar Pistorius is also going to get away with murder with his fake GAD diagnosis.click to expand
@watercup...I agree 100% with you..it's amazing how some can use the "crazy" diagnosis when it's convenient for them. Many criminals use it when they don't want to own up to their atrocities, and our judicial system has made it very easy for them because they love to study folks like this. A really truly seriously crazy person does not know their crazy, so if they kill someone, they could care less if they are caught because their not aware of their actions, but a person who kills and rapes as a twisted hobby for years and years such as serial killers and pedifiles, and never get caught is not the same kinda crazy. Oh...they definitely have a chemical imbalance in the brain, but they are not crazy enough to get caught, so even though we consider these type of folks mentally debilitated, they still have some sense of sanity in that twisted little brain of theirs...at least enough not to get caught. Those are the folks that I feel nothing for, so no amount of justification about what cause them to do behave that way is of no interest to me. In cases like that..they should get what they've dished out to their victims.
I agree with don, death is definitely the easy way out. Solitary confinement for the rest of their days. But true that taxpayers would be the one their burden falls on.
I don't really care too much if their death is humane or not. I don't think the death penalty, slow and cruel or not, is the worst way they could go. Rotting away for 50 years alone in a cell is way worse. And fuck em. That's what they get.
I like p angels thing about making them donate organs. That is a really good idea.
And I didn't know ohio is so big on botched executions. Interesting to know.
I don't really care too much if their death is humane or not. I don't think the death penalty, slow and cruel or not, is the worst way they could go. Rotting away for 50 years alone in a cell is way worse. And fuck em. That's what they get.
I like p angels thing about making them donate organs. That is a really good idea.
And I didn't know ohio is so big on botched executions. Interesting to know.
Believe it or not life in prison is cheaper than execution. The burden will be ours no matter what we do.
Posted by Nala13
Believe it or not life in prison is cheaper than execution. The burden will be ours no matter what we do.
Well if that's the case let em rot!
Posted by Nala13
Believe it or not life in prison is cheaper than execution. The burden will be ours no matter what we do.
This is true right now, because of how expensive and tedious the lethal injection is. But if the US can get over its French Revolution hangups, the guillotine will make it much much cheaper than lifelong keeping of an inmate.
I'd like to add guillotine not only for pedophiles, but the use of it for dismembering rapists as well. Especially 20 year old punks who get off on raping 80 year old women etc..
Posted by munchkinPosted by Nala13
Believe it or not life in prison is cheaper than execution. The burden will be ours no matter what we do.
This is true right now, because of how expensive and tedious the lethal injection is. But if the US can get over its French Revolution hangups, the guillotine will make it much much cheaper than lifelong keeping of an inmate.click to expand
I think that would be a bit much. Heads falling off and rolling around. Blood squirting everywhere. I would maybe support a firing squad but not the guillotine. That's too much.
Posted by Nala13Posted by munchkinPosted by Nala13
Believe it or not life in prison is cheaper than execution. The burden will be ours no matter what we do.
This is true right now, because of how expensive and tedious the lethal injection is. But if the US can get over its French Revolution hangups, the guillotine will make it much much cheaper than lifelong keeping of an inmate.
I think that would be a bit much. Heads falling off and rolling around. Blood squirting everywhere. I would maybe support a firing squad but not the guillotine. That's too much.click to expand
Quick, painless, and impossible to botch.
Isn't that the most humane scenario?
It's fast, it's sure and leaves no room for screw ups.
I posted all past execution botches, and one of them was with a firing squad..nasty. Here it is:
"State: Territory of Utah
Method: Firing squad
What happened: Seated before the squad, the volley of bullets only knocking him out of the chair while he screamed —Oh my God! My God! They have missed!?? He bled to death 27 minutes later. "
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/slow-death-5012081/?p=5
I posted all past execution botches, and one of them was with a firing squad..nasty. Here it is:
"State: Territory of Utah
Method: Firing squad
What happened: Seated before the squad, the volley of bullets only knocking him out of the chair while he screamed —Oh my God! My God! They have missed!?? He bled to death 27 minutes later. "
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/slow-death-5012081/?p=5
Posted by LetltB
I'd like to add guillotine not only for pedophiles, but the use of it for dismembering rapists as well. Especially 20 year old punks who get off on raping 80 year old women etc..
+1
Misuse it, you lose it.
I don't know...
What if they forgot to sharpen the blades one day or some guy slacked off and assembled it backwards. Might see a head half off screaming "oh my god, what is this shit you can't even cut off my head properly".
What if they forgot to sharpen the blades one day or some guy slacked off and assembled it backwards. Might see a head half off screaming "oh my god, what is this shit you can't even cut off my head properly".
WWJD?
lmao! One day! Death by lightsaber! Imagine if you had the executioner job, "Hey you, I'm a jedi, let me buy you a drink"
Someone has to test the new drugs.
Who would you prefer it be?
An unsuspecting innocent animal or you?
Who better to test it on, then?
Posted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.
Posted by MayDay31
I agree with don, death is definitely the easy way out. Solitary confinement for the rest of their days. But true that taxpayers would be the one their burden falls on.
I don't really care too much if their death is humane or not. I don't think the death penalty, slow and cruel or not, is the worst way they could go. Rotting away for 50 years alone in a cell is way worse. And fuck em. That's what they get.
I like p angels thing about making them donate organs. That is a really good idea.
And I didn't know ohio is so big on botched executions. Interesting to know.
Well, I sure wouldn't want the heart of someone like that..that's one Organ they can keep
Posted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.click to expand
Indeed. Makes one wonder which one is the truth.
Posted by HeartOfALioNPosted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.
Indeed. Makes one wonder which one is the truth.click to expand
*sigh*
Man didn't rewrite anything. God, in the flesh, known as Jesus of Nazareth defined the new covenant, or New Testament, if you prefer.
C'mon folks....
I liked the eye for an eye idea, but all that does is breed more death. Probably why it was changed.
Posted by CapTennPosted by HeartOfALioNPosted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.
Indeed. Makes one wonder which one is the truth.
*sigh*
Man didn't rewrite anything. God, in the flesh, known as Jesus of Nazareth defined the new covenant, or New Testament, if you prefer.
C'mon folks....click to expand
That wouldn't be my argument whether or not Jesus wrote the first documents but rather if it has been changed to fit todays bill.
So much disinformation in the present.
If one were to question it of course like the "New International Bibles".
I won't get into my own beliefs about the death penalty, but if it has to be done I agree most with this suggestion.
It's the most economical option if you're going that route, and probably the closest thing to a "humane" execution as you'll find considering the probability of human error with a firing squad, the chances of the neck not snapping correctly during hanging, the atrocious brutality of an electric chair or stoning, and that the person is simultaneously experiencing cardiac arrest and asphyxiation during lethal injection. Also, a human head can survive for possibly up to 30 seconds post decapitation for those in favor of death by guillotine. I remember a story about a French scientist who was condemned to die by guillotine and charged his assistant with counting how many times he could blink before he finally passed. It was quite a few times.
But a little cement room with a drain in the floor and a shot to the back of the head at point-blank range... It's cold, hard, violent, swift, relatively painless, effective and cheap. An all-around crowd pleaser save for those who would feel robbed of a macabre desire to watch.
Posted by Wynter
Would have been cheaper and quicker to just shoot him in the fucking head.
It's the most economical option if you're going that route, and probably the closest thing to a "humane" execution as you'll find considering the probability of human error with a firing squad, the chances of the neck not snapping correctly during hanging, the atrocious brutality of an electric chair or stoning, and that the person is simultaneously experiencing cardiac arrest and asphyxiation during lethal injection. Also, a human head can survive for possibly up to 30 seconds post decapitation for those in favor of death by guillotine. I remember a story about a French scientist who was condemned to die by guillotine and charged his assistant with counting how many times he could blink before he finally passed. It was quite a few times.
But a little cement room with a drain in the floor and a shot to the back of the head at point-blank range... It's cold, hard, violent, swift, relatively painless, effective and cheap. An all-around crowd pleaser save for those who would feel robbed of a macabre desire to watch.
Posted by HeartOfALioN
Posted by CapTennPosted by HeartOfALioNPosted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.
Indeed. Makes one wonder which one is the truth.
*sigh*
Man didn't rewrite anything. God, in the flesh, known as Jesus of Nazareth defined the new covenant, or New Testament, if you prefer.
C'mon folks....
That wouldn't be my argument whether or not Jesus wrote the first documents but rather if it has been changed to fit todays bill.
So much disinformation in the present.click to expand
Defined.
And there is a lot of disinfo, but there are countless versions against which to compare, including
Young's literal translated from the original Hebrew and Greek texts.
🙂
Posted by HeartOfALioNPosted by CapTennPosted by HeartOfALioNPosted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.
Indeed. Makes one wonder which one is the truth.
*sigh*
Man didn't rewrite anything. God, in the flesh, known as Jesus of Nazareth defined the new covenant, or New Testament, if you prefer.
C'mon folks....
That wouldn't be my argument whether or not Jesus wrote the first documents but rather if it has been changed to fit todays bill.
So much disinformation in the present.click to expand
True True..the whole bible can be contradictory, that's why you have to use your own common sense, if you were blessed with it, to come to your own understanding of the bible, but at the same time, I guess it's a good thing because we all fall short of God's glory, so technically if he didn't forgive us for our current and pass transgressions, what would the state of humanity be. That's why I use the disclaimer: I have mixed emotions about certain things, because I am still learning and trying to understand certain things in the bible. As far as GOD defining the new testament, I don't know about that either. I wasn't there and since he used Man as a tool to re-write his word, we all know how man can twist things around to fit his ideals and beliefs, so I will leave that alone.I'll just wait until I have my meeting with GOD and personally ask him that question.
🙂
Tested...
...now sold in death row shampoos!
Posted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioNPosted by CapTennPosted by HeartOfALioNPosted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.
Indeed. Makes one wonder which one is the truth.
*sigh*
Man didn't rewrite anything. God, in the flesh, known as Jesus of Nazareth defined the new covenant, or New Testament, if you prefer.
C'mon folks....
That wouldn't be my argument whether or not Jesus wrote the first documents but rather if it has been changed to fit todays bill.
So much disinformation in the present.
True True..the whole bible can be contradictory, that's why you have to use your own common sense, if you were blessed with it, to come to your own understanding of the bible, but at the same time, I guess it's a good thing because we all fall short of God's glory, so technically if he didn't forgive us for our current and pass transgressions, what would the state of humanity be. That's why I use the disclaimer: I have mixed emotions about certain things, because I am still learning and trying to understand certain things in the bible. As far as GOD defining the new testament, I don't know about that either. I wasn't there and since he used Man as a tool to re-write his word, we all know how man can twist things around to fit his ideals and beliefs, so I will leave that alone.I'll just wait until I have my meeting with GOD and personally ask him that question.
🙂click to expand
amen 🙂
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by HeartOfALioN
Posted by CapTennPosted by HeartOfALioNPosted by LIb4LifePosted by HeartOfALioN
WWJD?
Well..in the old testament, it was an eye for an eye, but then man re-wrote the bible, so it became a little softer, and the LORD saith, vengeance is mine, but that's a hard pill to swallow when your child is brutally and inhumanly slaughtered, so I dunno.
Indeed. Makes one wonder which one is the truth.
*sigh*
Man didn't rewrite anything. God, in the flesh, known as Jesus of Nazareth defined the new covenant, or New Testament, if you prefer.
C'mon folks....
That wouldn't be my argument whether or not Jesus wrote the first documents but rather if it has been changed to fit todays bill.
So much disinformation in the present.
Defined.
And there is a lot of disinfo, but there are countless versions against which to compare, including
Young's literal translated from the original Hebrew and Greek texts.
🙂
click to expand
true 🙂
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Execution: 13 December 2006
State: Florida
Drug protocol: Lethal injection
What happened: Executioners —pushed [the needles] all the way through the blood vessels into surrounding soft tissue??, rather than into his veins, leaving him with chemical burns on both arms. According to the Associated Press, —witnesses reported Diaz was moving as long as 24 minutes after the first injection, including grimacing, blinking, licking his lips, blowing and attempting to mouth words.?? The execution took about 34 minutes. The duration of three-drug lethal injections vary depending on state protocol and the drugs involved, but the AP reports that this method would typically take 15 minutes, with the inmate unconscious after 3-5 minutes.
Brian Steckel, 36
Execution: 4 November 2005
State: Delaware
Drug protocol: Triple injection
What happened: The machine meant to deliver the lethal drugs did not function correctly, forcing the execution team to switch to a backup device. They did not re-administer the sedative, however, leaving Steckel lucid throughout the 12 minutes it took for the drugs to take effect. He spoke throughout, and at one point looked to the warden and said, —I didn't think it would take this long.??
Pedro Medina, 39
Execution: 25 March 1997
State: Florida
Method: Electric chair
What happened: Medina's head caught fire from inside its mask after officials delivered electricity to the chair. A witness testified that Medina kept breathing for several seconds, saw smoke and smelled burning.
Jesse Tafero, 43
Execution: 4 May 1990
State: Florida
Method: Electric chair
What happened: On the electric chair Tafero??s head —burst into flame??, which officials blamed on the synthetic, —water-filled sponge attached to his head [to] conduct electricity from the electrode.?? Prison officials then decided that —only sea sponges could enter the death chamber.??