To follow up on previous rape topics.

To follow up on previous rape topics.

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To follow up on previous rape topics...

As I was reading this, some of the users HERE on DXP came to mind- the excuses and justification they had for rape situations, both male AND female (fuck you dumb bitches, btw).

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/mar/01/indias-daughter-documentary-rape-delhi-women-indian-men-attitudes?CMP=fb_gu

This is the shit that women still face around the world. Go ahead and hate on me for being a feminist, but THIS is why I get so agitated with some of the shit that happens. The moar you know.

...sadly many here are just not aware of some of the crazy going on around the world toward women. The next time some of you guys, the same ones who justify rape, even attempt to victimize yourself, think of these numbers.

Yeah, that was mentioned in the link above as well.

One of the most disturbing bits out of the whole thing was when they went into detail of what happened on that bus- the SEVENTEEN year old kid reaches inside of her and pulls out her intestines.

But it's her fault they did these things to her.

Just like how often we see guys in more "civilized" countries victim blaming/diverting responsibilities for shitty actions. And I'm not saying this as an anti guy thing or anything, but just the attitudes and crazy shit that was said in this article slightly mirrored the same bullshit we see every day in dating and relating- lack of accountability and a shitty view of how to treat the opposing gender.

It's why I get so annoyed and pissed when I see the privileged gender here, on DXP promoting women tolerating shit that they shouldn't. I'M the extreme one and I'm oh so wrong in pointing out that women need to be able to manage while single, be strong emotionally, and have better self esteem in dealing with shit like this.

This article is the insane extreme that this line of thinking can go to. Women are viewed as lesser being and sexual objects. They have zero respect given and are thought of so sickly by assholes like the ones in the story. This is what happens when you let this stupid mentality go unchecked.

It's just so sad that across the board, this type of thing gets dismissed so readily. There, it's blatant lack of respect for women as human beings, in other countries, it's just denial that something this shitty is still going on. I can't help but wonder why people here, in supposedly a more civilized society, still sweep this under the rug, make excuses, victim blame, and turn a blind eye to something that's an obvious problem. At least in places like India, these fucked up assholes admit their "logic"- "we see them as lesser beings."

Their is no jusifacation for rape ever.Yeah it was her fault and even her friend was blamed cause they should have know they were getting on the wrong bus! Wow!.Got to be kidding me.Maybe some good will come from it,raises awarness new laws being passed etc.,but it does that girl no good.In my opion the 17 and a half yr old needs to stretch a rope also.He was the worst one mark my words he will do worst when he gets out.Well maybe he won't get out karma is a bitch.

You're a great example of what I'm talking about.

Never fails, this subject comes up and the guys make it about themselves.

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Posted by Jynja
Wow, PartiallyImpartial, what a way to CLOUD the crux of the issue.

Women are the weaker sex and need to be protected. But (and I am merely guessing here that you have some Libra bits), you've managed to blur the edges of the issue to include percieved others.

Good work on setting the need to take care of the immediate issues back another millenia because men pick on each other.

Nice indeed.

i have no libra bits, and you don't understand at all what i was saying.

I'm not saying that women are not the clearly disadvantaged gender. Because they are. And I'm not even trying to make this about men being victimized at all. I'm saying that just as men contribute to the patriarchy, so do women. I'm saying women contribute to their own problems. I'm not even trying to have a conversation about male problems. Although, as LOR pointed out, they do matter. And if you really care about equality, you should care about them too.

But to be totally honest, I'm not particularly hung up about male victims. Because while they DO exist, I fully recognize the scope and scale is far different than with female victims. As a whole, women have it worse. And I personally struggle to care because I grew up watching my mother being abused by my step-fathers. And because the times women have gotten violent with me, it really didn't traumatize me as much as i know a woman would be traumatized if I got violent with her.

So I will always have more empathy for female victims than male victims. It's my own bias.

But you know what? Even my mother, who was herself a severe victim of the patriarchy... was ALSO a contributor to the patriarchy. Because she fully believes that men are supposed to be in charge. She believes its a woman's role to serve her husband, and the husband to serve god. She is extremely condescending and rude to women she perceive as sluts- and that includes any women who wear shirts that reveal any cleavage at all. she thinks all feminists are jezebels, and she thinks that traditional gender roles are god's plan. She promotes the system that led to her being dehumanized by men who didn't respect her.

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Is your mom single? 🙂

This Patriarchy bullshit again?

Posted by partiallyimpartial


I'm not saying that women are not the clearly disadvantaged gender. Because they are. And I'm not even trying to make this about men being victimized at all. I'm saying that just as men contribute to the patriarchy, so do women. I'm saying women contribute to their own problems.

..did you miss the part where I told these particular women to fuck off? It was in parenthesis. Because I'm not quite sure if you saw I was referring to them as well in my original post.

In our society, it's not just men vs women, it's men vs dumb bitch women who aren't even aware that they're promoting this crap themselves.

Like someone else said, it's incredibly when women go "she deserved it for (insert fucked up reasoning as why rape is justified)!"

Posted by partiallyimpartial
What I am saying is that the patriarchy isn't the collective male gender going into a room and plotting ways to control women, to keep them down. it might have started that way, although i doubt it.

You need to check into what's been going on by these extreme morons who have taken "feminism" and twisted it into something "bad" up in San Francisco. Mostly white, rich people who have family ties with very powerful and influential people in this country who benefit from staying on top.

There's a reason there's been a back slide in the feminist movement and now the term "feminism" has been tarnished and believed to be a bad thing, when the reality it isn't. It's so stupidly sad when you see women/girls immediately get defensive and claim that they aren't "feminist." How effing sad is that?

It's no coincidence, just like it's no coincidence that the media intentionally targets and stereotypes minorities and keeps the masses racially divided.

That's white dudes in power, trying to keep power, yo. It's been going on for decades and over the past several years, it's been slipping into the gender realm as well. It's rather sad and frightening.

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Posted by partiallyimpartial


I'm not saying that women are not the clearly disadvantaged gender. Because they are. And I'm not even trying to make this about men being victimized at all. I'm saying that just as men contribute to the patriarchy, so do women. I'm saying women contribute to their own problems.

..did you miss the part where I told these particular women to fuck off? It was in parenthesis. Because I'm not quite sure if you saw I was referring to them as well in my original post.

In our society, it's not just men vs women, it's men vs dumb bitch women who aren't even aware that they're promoting this crap themselves.

Like someone else said, it's incredibly when women go "she deserved it for (insert fucked up reasoning as why rape is justified)!"

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*incredibly sad

rock, paper, gun.

my 2 cents...

Posted by munchykin
All women, all over the world, should be allowed and encouraged to carry a gun. No questions asked, except for a quick background/psychological evaluation. For men, it should be much more difficult IMO.

Going even farther, I would also make it a school requirement for women to learn how to shoot.

Too bad this is completely unrealistic. :/

The only problem with that is if the rapist over powers the victim and takes her gun, he can then not only rape her but also KILL her. Then we have a whole nother social problem on our hands.

The way to end rape is to teach our boys/men that is not okay to rape women. Seems simple right? To be completely honest, it is. Alot of the social problems we have could easily be solved if we stopped brainwashing people to perpetuate them. Another way to stop rape is to giving men so much power in our society. What some people (not saying you) dont realize is the rape is not about sex. Because, lets be honest, there way too many bars, clubs, and dating sites to use that excuse. Rape is about power. Moreso, rape is about exerting power over a "weaker" person. Most men that rape are comfortable raping women because in our society men are brainwashed into thinking that they have a right to power.

Posted by partiallyimpartial
the reason people turn a blind eye in more civilized societies, is because they're too busy counting the ways that THEY have been cheated in life. and people rarely pay attention to problems that are not their own.

We've been told repeatedly to mind our own business.

Each country is sovereign in its rights and its ills.

Terrible philosophy, imo.

And Rocky... what you posted goes beyond mere entitlement--

that's evil.

It doesn't matter how much power or money a person has. Insanity is insanity and dead is still dead.

Not only do they have a right to power, the have a right to attain it by anymeans necessary. Thats why when men catcall women and the woman isnt phased by the catcall or complemented by the catcall, the guy gets angry. Why? Because our glorious society has put men om such a high fucking pedestal that they think just hurling unwarranted "hey baby", "girl you look good", "what's your number, sweetheart" type phrases at us, with no regard for our mental state or whether or not we even want to be spoken to. No regard for how doing things like that creates an unnecessarily hostile environment for a women just trying to live their lives in peace.

Thats why when men catcall women and the woman isnt phased by the catcall or complemented by the catcall, the guy gets angry. Why? Because our glorious society has put men om such a high fucking pedestal that they think just hurling unwarranted "hey baby", "girl you look good", "what's your number, sweetheart" type phrases at us, with no regard for our mental state or whether or not we even want to be spoken to is a compliment* **** ffffff

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@magenta - I like your new avi

Thanks!

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Posted by PotHeadVirgo25

But see that's when you win though. When they don't know and it's a surprise. Also since you're female, most rapist won't even be expecting you to be strap. That increases your probability of survival in this particular case.

Nonetheless, the point is to have a fighting chance and if you start with a gun, you have a high fucking% chance of not getting raped. They used swords back in the G as a means for war and protection. Today it's the gun. Having training on how to defend yourself is great too but its not as universal as a trigger. Which is also good for women.

+1 TRAINING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!! By that I mean a self defense class WITH a gun. You are trained in all aspects from the time an attack is imminent, to protecting the weapon/distance from being taken and not hesitating for a second to shoot the weapon. Before anyone gets a gun, the first question is can you kill someone to protect yourself if you had to? If you hesitate...don't get a gun, it will be used on you.

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Posted by partiallyimpartial
the reason people turn a blind eye in more civilized societies, is because they're too busy counting the ways that THEY have been cheated in life. and people rarely pay attention to problems that are not their own.

We've been told repeatedly to mind our own business.

Each country is sovereign in its rights and its ills.

Terrible philosophy, imo.

And Rocky... what you posted goes beyond mere entitlement--

that's evil.

who's told you to mind your own business?

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Have a Google on u.s. inference in 'sovereign' countries.

Many of which treat women like second class citizens...

like a possession.

Even like children... but then, often they are.

Posted by partiallyimpartial
well I did a google search, but I'm still not sure what you're referring to. Would you mind giving me specific examples?

I mean, I know that countries don't want the US invading them to occupy and overthrow their sovereignty. but I hardly see how that's relevant, so I doubt that's what you were referring to. however, I'm not sure what you are talking about.

The countries whose religion(s) dictate their governments

and laws--

the same laws that promote male entitlement and fail

to protect women or give them the same rights as the men?

I'm not sure how one could isolate that one leeetle

problem and "do something" when their governments, religion

and culture are intertwined and absolutely inseparable.

Of course it is relevant.

Adding this to the discussion

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/geena-davis-two-easy-steps-664573

Posted by Magenta_Azure

The way to end rape is to teach our boys/men that is not okay to rape women. Seems simple right? To be completely honest, it is. Alot of the social problems we have could easily be solved if we stopped brainwashing people to perpetuate them. Another way to stop rape is to giving men so much power in our society. What some people (not saying you) dont realize is the rape is not about sex. Because, lets be honest, there way too many bars, clubs, and dating sites to use that excuse. Rape is about power. Moreso, rape is about exerting power over a "weaker" person. Most men that rape are comfortable raping women because in our society men are brainwashed into thinking that they have a right to power.

This is the whole point of the post. It's why I got so pissy it was, again, switched to something else on a tangent where the focus went from women to men/both genders.

The entire thing is a multi faceted issue, but this right here is the point that was being made.

Posted by Magenta_Azure
Not only do they have a right to power, the have a right to attain it by anymeans necessary. Thats why when men catcall women and the woman isnt phased by the catcall or complemented by the catcall, the guy gets angry. Why? Because our glorious society has put men om such a high fucking pedestal that they think just hurling unwarranted "hey baby", "girl you look good", "what's your number, sweetheart" type phrases at us, with no regard for our mental state or whether or not we even want to be spoken to. No regard for how doing things like that creates an unnecessarily hostile environment for a women just trying to live their lives in peace.

See my icon for illustrative purposes of this point.

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Posted by rockyroadicecream
You're a great example of what I'm talking about.

Never fails, this subject comes up and the guys make it about themselves.

IDK. I find it far worse whenever some dude rolls up talkin' about "what about all the guys wrongfully accused of rape by conniving harlots? his whole life is ruined thanks to some trife b1tc.h!"
(right, so the rare exception of false assault claims should change the entire rule--and women have so much to gain by framing men to charge 'em with rape? gtfo)

partiallyimpartial isn't exactly wrong, in that rape-apologist cultures/countries usually have a deplorable human rights record history overall to match the victim-blaming attitude toward rape. squalid conditions, extreme poverty & corrupt law comes with the territory in developing nations where women are still profoundly subjugated.

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The US falls into a rape apologist culture and it does not fit those descriptions (well, most areas).

I get his point, after he reworded it later so it sounded less tangent, but my irritation lies in that anywhere you see an issue brought up like this, there's always at least ONE guy who goes, "oh yeah? Well MEN... blah blah blah."

It's kinda like a white person saying "Oh yeah? Well some black dude was racist toward me, so it happens to us too!!" ...yes, but not on the scale in which it happens to most minorities.

You cannot sit here and compare the two genders when most societies have been revolving around patriarchy for freaking ever. We have this pathetic wave of guys coming up that think they suddenly have it worse than ever and ohnoes, end of the world! Cue all the attempts to squash some women's rights, look down on them as a "lesser/servant" gender, etc. It's not everyone, but it's so effing disturbing in how much it's happening with the YOUNGER crowd. You'd think they were born in 1950 with some of the attitudes they've developed. :/

Do women do some fucked things to men and they get the short end of the stick? Do they get abused? Yes. But that's not really the point of this topic. Less "let's make this about us" and more "what can WE do to start chipping away at this issue?"

"Well women do it to other women too." Yes, but who controls media and all the brainwashing going on?

Posted by VivaciousScorpio
We as a species are patriarchal...

You're 24.

How does it feel to be a part of stunting social progression?

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Posted by VivaciousScorpio
We as a species are patriarchal...

You're 24.

How does it feel to be a part of stunting social progression?

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It will never change. We were designed this way.

As long as men are in charge of protecting women (from men), you are asking for patriarchy.

The physically superior will always be in charge in some form or fashion.

All you ladies can get mad if you want. It won't change a thing. My thoughts are not intended to provoke, just stating the truth.

Posted by CapTenn

It will never change. We were designed this way.

As long as men are in charge of protecting women (from men), you are asking for patriarchy.

The physically superior will always be in charge in some form or fashion.

All you ladies can get mad if you want. It won't change a thing. My thoughts are not intended to provoke, just stating the truth.

That^^truth may bother some women who fail to see reality.
Hence why guns are out there as a choice for some who live in the real world. 😉

Man..if you say so.

Your argument is a feel good story, and a fantasy -- completely devoid of logic.

Power and control will never cease to be sought. Men will always naturally have this drive, and in higher quantities than women. Couple that with physically superior strength, and women seeking the protection of those that are stronger, and there goes your utopian fantasy out the window.

Sorry. It's the natural order of things, and it cannot be wished away.

Never going to happen.

Posted by Ixion120
Just a few decades ago a conversation like the one we are having now would have been politically unfeasible given the cultural and political realities of the day. The fact that women even have the space to discuss the insurance of women's equal rights without fear of being ostracized by and large is a change in its own rights. We should encourage those changes and remove roadblocks whenever possible to ensure equal human rights of self-determination for their own bodies.

I'm not having an equal rights discussion. This has nothing to do with that.

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Posted by CapTenn
Man..if you say so.

Your argument is a feel good story, and a fantasy -- completely devoid of logic.

Power and control will never cease to be sought. Men will always naturally have this drive, and in higher quantities than women. Couple that with physically superior strength, and women seeking the protection of those that are stronger, and there goes your utopian fantasy out the window.

Sorry. It's the natural order of things, and it cannot be wished away.

Never going to happen.

CT, folks who would truly stand up to injustice do not do it with a facile view of what it takes to achieve those things. It takes blood, sweat and many many tears to make certain the change we need to have happen occurs. If groups do not fight tooth and nail for their rights they will be trampled upon time and time again. Your statements are inept in the face of the social changes present in many different societies and data regarding the use of force to solve conflicts. You make a claim a mile wide but only an inch deep. Dig deeper than that.

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Some things are an inch deep. This is one of those issues.

You keep speaking of rights, and rights has not a damn thing to do with it. It's nature, and it will not change.

Someone had to be the boss. Period. Because someone is in charge has zero effect on individual rights.

You are barking up the wrong tree.

Posted by Ixion120
Not a dog so I don't bark **smirk** as for rights not mattering prove how it isn't back up your thoughts with words. No one-off statements remember? The burden of proof is on you.

Since you missed it.

Because someone is in charge has zero effect on individual rights.

EVERYONE should have equal rights. No ifs, ands, or buts.


Can we move off that now?

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Historical record shows that leaders matter greatly.........I believe that several million dead jews...several million dead africans, several million dead african americans, several million dead native americans......would very much disagree with the sentiment that who is in charge has very little effect on individual rights man.

But since you can at least assent that everyone should have equal rights then i suppose I can rest my case at present.

Want to stick to America?

It's the only country you have a prayer at changing.

We ARE talking about the modern USA right? Like changing things today?

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Posted by Ixion120

Historical record shows that leaders matter greatly.........I believe that several million dead jews...several million dead africans, several million dead african americans, several million dead native americans......would very much disagree with the sentiment that who is in charge has very little effect on individual rights man.

But since you can at least assent that everyone should have equal rights then i suppose I can rest my case at present.

Want to stick to America?

It's the only country you have a prayer at changing.

We ARE talking about the modern USA right? Like changing things today?

As far as America changing its the only country I am personally interested in changing. I'm American first by identification...but DXP is not solely an American audience, I am always sensitive of that fact. The [pursuit of civil rights transcend borders. Woman rights? its an international endeavor...this article did start with an article referencing an entirely different country no??

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I didn't read the article, so I don't know.

I can only worry about the USA.

Our international dxp'ers can worry about theirs. (I'm not being a dick, just saying)

PI, with all do respect, youre derailing the topic big time and its really insulting because rape is a very big issue women around the world have to deal with every day.

Any questions you have can easily be answered, but if all you're going to say is "what abt da MENz!!", "itz hur fault too!!", "can we talk about women tearing down women?!?!?",what is the point? If you don't want to learn, then don't. But coming to a discussion, a women's rights at that, and derailing it is not going to help tou learn. Like RRI, guys like you do this all the time, feminists and human rights activists try to bring up an important topic then here you go, "WE ALL HAVE ISSUES", "WHAT ABOUT MEEEEE". Cant you see WHY that is problematic? ?

Posted by partiallyimpartial
with all due respect, please don't put words into my mouth

Im not putting words in your mouth. why dont you go back and read your responses? Maybe it's harder for you to realize what youre doing because youre apart of a privileged group that doesnt have to deal with these issues on a personal level?

@PI



Almost all of those quotes are EXACTLY why youre derailing the conversation!!! How can you not see that?? Not one of those quotes legitimately addresses the problem. theyre just back peddling. I dont think you know what feminism is about.

that right there is a huge problem.

i think you think that feminist just want to take over the world and destroy men along the way. I think you dont know enough about feminism and human rights activism to have a legitimate say in this topic. the fact that you cant address the issue without bringing up a whole bunch of other issues is also a huge problem. based off of those quotes alone i think that youre a bit of a puppet for patriarchy.

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Posted by munchykin
All women, all over the world, should be allowed and encouraged to carry a gun. No questions asked, except for a quick background/psychological evaluation. For men, it should be much more difficult IMO.

Going even farther, I would also make it a school requirement for women to learn how to shoot.

Too bad this is completely unrealistic. :/

The only problem with that is if the rapist over powers the victim and takes her gun, he can then not only rape her but also KILL her. Then we have a whole nother social problem on our hands.

The way to end rape is to teach our boys/men that is not okay to rape women. Seems simple right? To be completely honest, it is. Alot of the social problems we have could easily be solved if we stopped brainwashing people to perpetuate them. Another way to stop rape is to giving men so much power in our society. What some people (not saying you) dont realize is the rape is not about sex. Because, lets be honest, there way too many bars, clubs, and dating sites to use that excuse. Rape is about power. Moreso, rape is about exerting power over a "weaker" person. Most men that rape are comfortable raping women because in our society men are brainwashed into thinking that they have a right to power.

yes, i don't want a damn gun

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Cops don't have guns in Australia, do they... ?

@partially

Disregard... that was rude.

I'll rephrase a bit later.

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Posted by VivaciousScorpio
We as a species are patriarchal...

You're 24.

How does it feel to be a part of stunting social progression?

It will never change. We were designed this way.

As long as men are in charge of protecting women (from men), you are asking for patriarchy.

The physically superior will always be in charge in some form or fashion.

All you ladies can get mad if you want. It won't change a thing. My thoughts are not intended to provoke, just stating the truth.

Humans, at least in developed countries, are relying less and less on physical strength, and more on intellectual abilities and interpersonal skills, driven largely by technology. However this dramatic of a shift is very recent, so men still largely hold the power as a carryover from when men did secure their power by way of relatively greater physical abilities.

It's a lot easier to hold existing power than it is to obtain it in the first place. But as the source of that power grows more and more unimportant, the strength of that carryover power is bound to weaken until gender isn't much of a determinant at all.

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Control will always maintained by force ..... if it comes to that.

I just want to say to those who have said we are meant to be patriarchal or whatever else...Marxist feminism. Marxist feminists clearly outline that there are 5 stages to our society...the first, that we started off with is pre-tribal. Guess what, not a patriarchal society. In fact, everything was passed down through a matriarch system. It was only when there became more resources that we became patriarchal...the slavery stage. Men wanted their children to inherit their own material goods and wealth since there was an increasing number of resources (slaves, cattle, etc). So, basically at that point men decided that they wanted to take the power of inheriting things from women. Ever since then, we have been patriarchal. But, we didn't start out that way and we certainly aren't 'meant as a species' to be patriarchal (nor matriarchal)

At least 1,400 teenage girls in Rotherham, England were raped by Pakistani immigrants since 1997 up until 2013 and the local police and child services covered it up because they didn't want to look like racists as a result of political correctness.

😢

Interestingly enough feminists remained silent about it, further contributing to my belief that feminists in this current time simply like barking about oppression and violence against women rather than actually combating them.

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At least 1,400 teenage girls in Rotherham, England were raped by Pakistani immigrants since 1997 up until 2013 and the local police and child services covered it up because they didn't want to look like racists as a result of political correctness.

😢

Interestingly enough feminists remained silent about it, further contributing to my belief that feminists in this current time simply like barking about oppression and violence against women rather than actually combating them.

There's only so much you can do when men refuse to listen to you and don't agree with equality of the sexes. It's obvious there is very little anyone could have done when those who are supposed to protect the citizens (police, child services) chose to cover it up, themselves. This world runs on power. Women have very little power, especially in certain countries. The only thing they can do it try to appeal to politicians and those in power...but it's clear that many men in those positions want nothing to do with that.

Or rise to power, themselves, which can be done in many countries today, though not with enough numbers to matter.

Feminism often falls on deaf ears. If you don't think feminists have anything to say about the rapes that have occurred, then I have to question if you have any common sense. What you hear is what the media chooses to let you hear. I'm not sure the last time I've seen any article or news report on feminist issues unless I was specifically looking for it. How do you KNOW they've remained silent? Because the media hasn't shown you anything on it? How effective do you think the demonstrations or protests that would catch the medias attention are? Things like bra burning protests are not very effective.

Posted by Amandus
At least 1,400 teenage girls in Rotherham, England were raped by Pakistani immigrants since 1997 up until 2013 and the local police and child services covered it up because they didn't want to look like racists as a result of political correctness.

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Interestingly enough feminists remained silent about it, further contributing to my belief that feminists in this current time simply like barking about oppression and violence against women rather than actually combating them.

this is pure populism.

How many of you read feminist sources? Have you been to their conferences and workshops? Or buy their magazines?

Like you'd make Barbecue on the 1st of May. And mock socialists.

Afterall why should we distinguish between races? Crime is crime.

Posted by Scenic
How do you KNOW they've remained silent? Because the media hasn't shown you anything on it? How effective do you think the demonstrations or protests that would catch the medias attention are? Things like bra burning protests are not very effective.

I'm not disappointed because of the silence from feminists and I don't care for your excuses. It's that it even happened. 16 years, more than 1,400 cases of rape hidden by people who could stop it in fear of beeing seen as racists. Who wouldn't be disappointed?

I have to say, one common trait feminists of this time period seem to share is that they're quick to make enemies of people who oppose them even in the slightest. Stop it. It's absolutely disgusting. You guys do yourselves no favors acting like this. And you're wondering why feminism falls on deaf ears? Is your goal to unify of separate?

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Posted by Scenic
How do you KNOW they've remained silent? Because the media hasn't shown you anything on it? How effective do you think the demonstrations or protests that would catch the medias attention are? Things like bra burning protests are not very effective.

I'm not disappointed because of the silence from feminists and I don't care for your excuses. It's that it even happened. 16 years, more than 1,400 cases of rape hidden by people who could stop it in fear of beeing seen as racists. Who wouldn't be disappointed?

I have to say, one common trait feminists of this time period seem to share is that they're quick to make enemies of people who oppose them even in the slightest. Stop it. It's absolutely disgusting. You guys do yourselves no favors acting like this. And you're wondering why feminism falls on deaf ears? Is your goal to unify of separate?

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But...there is no silence. Feminists are speaking up everywhere all the time. You choose to listen to a media source that says there is no speaking. Foolish.
YES, why couldn't we stop it? Why couldn't the government, police, child service act morally? Are you insinuating that feminists should have stopped the rapes from happening and not the men who committed them? It's not the feminists fault those rapes happened.

We're quick to make enemies because I'm literally talking to you right now, you're telling me that feminism is bullshit and you know what that means? It means you don't see me as a human being with equal rights to you. You think my behavior is unacceptable? Haha Feminists goal IS to unify. Do you even know what feminism is? Feminism isn't just about women. Men suffer from the patriarchy as well. But there are some who don't want to see equality and being against feminism is exactly that.

"there is no silence."