Most Overrated Movies in Your Opinion?

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Titanic.

The only impressive thing is that they built so much of the set instead of relying on CGI, and James Cameron can draw reasonably well (he drew the portrait of Rose shown in the film). Other than that, dreadful, but so bad it was funny at times so I wasn't as bored as I might have been otherwise.

Such a waste of actors who are very talented but had pretty much nothing to work with aside from a beautiful set.

And James Cameron is a colossal asshole. I don't doubt what Kate Winslet has said about how he treated her. He's made some good films in the past, but his egotism got the better of him with Titanic.

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Wait you mean there are actually movies that aren't?

I find it to be mostly an unfortunate scam nowadays. Every now and then we get something good, but most are just soulless and half assed films with pretty actors driven only to fool you with trailers then take your cash. Most actors today are picks irl too, because the work with assholes who hold profit higher actual entertainment.
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Wait you mean there are actually movies that aren't?

I find it to be mostly an unfortunate scam nowadays. Every now and then we get something good, but most are just soulless and half assed films with pretty actors driven only to fool you with trailers then take your cash. Most actors today are picks irl too, because the work with assholes who hold profit higher actual entertainment.
Wats your FAVORITE movie ever - I have heaps tho but wats yours
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Wait you mean there are actually movies that aren't?

I find it to be mostly an unfortunate scam nowadays. Every now and then we get something good, but most are just soulless and half assed films with pretty actors driven only to fool you with trailers then take your cash. Most actors today are picks irl too, because the work with assholes who hold profit higher actual entertainment.
Wats your FAVORITE movie ever - I have heaps tho but wats yours
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I honestly don't know. I was likely a childhood movie and in the 90s. Homeward Bound, Land Before Time, or Lion King. I never watched much movies or tv after childhood and teen years. Today its mostly YouTube. I hear so many bad rumors about movies today I rather not waste money.
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Wait you mean there are actually movies that aren't?

I find it to be mostly an unfortunate scam nowadays. Every now and then we get something good, but most are just soulless and half assed films with pretty actors driven only to fool you with trailers then take your cash. Most actors today are picks irl too, because the work with assholes who hold profit higher actual entertainment.
Wats your FAVORITE movie ever - I have heaps tho but wats yours
I honestly don't know. I was likely a child and in the 90s. Homeward Bound, Land Before Time, or Lion King. I never watched much movies or tv after childhood teen years. Today its mostly YouTube. I hear so many bad x d movies today I rather not waste money.
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Okay those three movies rock so I trust your judgement 😆
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Kill Bill

Inglorious Basterds

Remove the name Tarantino from the credits and you've got garbage hardly worthy of a direct-to-video release.
I liked both of those, what about Hateful Eight tho.... I found THAT disappoint although I LOVED the opening it was ol skool film skills.

Terrible writing
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There are two major things that bother me about Tarantino, focusing on Kill Bill and Basterds in particulary, but also Django Unchained which he won Best original screenplay for. That's a huge part of it right there: What is an original screenplay by Tarantino exactly? There is no such thing, seen as he's devoted his career to paying homages to other people's work to the extent that he not only fails at creating an organic cinematic experience, but he's become plagiarism of himself. And to know what exactly the Tarantino experience is, we'd have to go all the way back to Pulp Fiction (1994) which is the only real Tarantino movie. Even Reservoir Dogs is entirely adapted from a Japanese film. He even plagiarized the final shootout in all its Tarantino glory.

Basterds was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Take that scene in the dimlit dive near the end that ends in a massacre - the guy doesn't know how to kill his darlings. He just lets scenes, dialogues and monologues drag on. Or take the opening scene, another "intense" moment according to fans, but it did nothing for me: The use of music, camera, dialogue. He's literally like a kid who picked up daddy's video camera and started recreating what he's seen on cable the night before, only this kid has friends in high places.



If you find his stuff entertaining I cannot argue against that. But even watching say, Hostel 2 after Hostel 1 felt more like a new experience than the transition Tarantino made between Kill Bill, Inglorious Basterds and Django. All three movies left me feeling completely empty inside, like I've just seen something really pointless. The characters were stillborn. The 3rd act is just violence basically, you could turn either of the movies off about 45 minutes before they end bc from then on, the violence IS the punchline. Don't even get me started on how the hell he managed to make three Kill Bill movies out of material that could have easily been a 90 minute movie. He makes crap in epic proportions.

Now compare the timing in Pulp Fiction with his later stuff. That movie felt organic like fuck, it had natural flow, living breathing characters being naturally cool. Dialogues and monologues popping out of the screen. But when you then start paying homage to yourself it's a sign your best days are behind you, creatively speaking.



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Thanks for long and detailed reply- loved it (Pulp Fiction rocks)

And suffice to say agree with everything you wrote... only that plagiarizing is the lifeblood of screenwriting in Hollywood lol

Things are 'borrowed' by directors and writers all the time...

Birdman and Whiplash were probs the most recent that impressed me I think, have you seen them? and End of Watch- as examples.

Coen Brothers came closest to originality in terms of film story telling imo eg Fargo was amaze I thought...?
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Haven't seen Hateful 8 but I will, just to prove my own point (once again). I believe when you say it had terrible writing. For someone known for his dialogue skills, I find his writing to be extremely self-indulgent. That's actually a major flaw in the 3 movies I covered here and probably the main reasons I feel his characters are stillborn.
Oh well tell meh what you think of shots in opening credits, I really got my hopes up at first...

Things went downhill from there, cast was terrific - dialogue was disappoint- I guess they worked with what they were given lol
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Thanks for long and detailed reply- loved it (Pulp Fiction rocks)

And suffice to say agree with everything you wrote... only that plagiarizing is the lifeblood of screenwriting in Hollywood lol

Things are 'borrowed' by directors and writers all the time...

Birdman and Whiplash were probs the most recent that impressed me I think, have you seen them? and End of Watch- as examples.

Coen Brothers came closest to originality in terms of film story telling imo eg Fargo was amaze I thought...?
Well I'd like to say that the auteurs of Hollywood - to which Tarantino used to belong - are inspired by what's already been done, as oppose to trying to recreate or plagiarize. Tarantino has become a copy-and-paste director. Even Samuel L. Jackson said that Tarantino's directing style is basically "Remeber that scene from The Good, The Bad, The Ugly...." I mean that's cool, there's no right or wrong way, whatever gets the job done... that is had it not been for the end result.

I really couldn't get into Birdman. Why did it appeal to you personally? And haven't seen Whiplash yet.

I love Fargo, it's a movie of contrasts in every sense of the word. Coen brothers are unique in that they always get back to their personal little projects no matter what, take a detour here and there. They are true to their voice ,it's like they tried but they don't know how to be any other way.



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Kill Bill

Inglorious Basterds

Remove the name Tarantino from the credits and you've got garbage hardly worthy of a direct-to-video release.
Definitely agree here.

Quentin Tarantino would be producing child porn if he weren't so obsessed with violently killing white males and advocating homosexuality in his movies.

That is one sick puppy.

The scene where the homosexual German Soldier strangles the beautiful actress toward the end says it all.

You can tell that both the homo and Tarantino have nothing but hatred for healthy heterosexual white couples.