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Why do you have to attack anyone with a different point of view Cancerlady. If you're so sure of your beliefs, and don't care what anyone else thinks (as you have stated previously) why even ask the question? And why attack Brahn0913. Anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a hater, or on a tirade? The only tirade I saw came from your sweet little fingers. He wasn't the only one wondering why this question was even asked. You mean to tell us at 26, you don't know what constitutes cheating and what doesn't? Then girl, you're a fool.

Your incessant need to post the intimate details of your sexual exploits ammounts to little more than a juvenile cry for attention. Not to mention perpetuating the stereotype that black women are all a bunch of ho's and hootchies. I'm sure many of us here have equally satisfying sex lives. Believe me, when I get together with my closest girlfriends, we tell some stories that would curl even your hair. But parade around on a message board making a spectacle of myself for others people's ammusment - No thank you. You might as well smear your face with shoe polish and put on a minstral show. It's nearly as degrading. "It was a month...I was so horny..." Please girl! As if all us black women have no control over ourselves. As if we're all a bunch of out of control hootchies. You're an embarrasment to yourself and our entire community. It's very easy to spot what questions are being asked in earnest, and what questions are placed for the purposes of cheap thrills. If your behavior on this board is any indication of the way you carry on in real life then it is no wonder you are attracting men, how did you put it? - "like flies to trash." Please girl, show some respect for yourself. Then maybe you will attract a man who will respect you in return.
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there's a stereotype that all black women all hoes?

Damn- no wonder I can't get a date..😛

I don't think people would even knew that cancerlady was black until you saw her picture-- nor do I think cancerlady wants the responsibility of speaking for all black women on dxp-- no more than I want the responsibility of speaking for all aries- and so on.. and so forth. One of the great things I like about dxp, and the people within is that we are all (or rather we are mostly) adults- speaking freely and openly. With a group like this- who comes together- I think we dispell and transcend stererotypes with our frank and open discussions. To stifle that- would deminish the spirit which lives here.
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Hi All.

*Winks to CancerLady*

For the record Sweetheart. It is cheating lol. But, that's between you and your Pisces. I know you knew it was cheating before you posted it, it was only for humor.

Brahn . . .you got issues. Serious issues. So you can't get that the post was in jest. Nor can you even understand that she already knew the answer to the question when she asked it? There goes that Virgo perceptive myth. It's bad enough we have to snore though your post but . . . here's the thing kid. You cry and get all emotional and weepy over the boards about Virgos being misunderstood, boring, critical and how people should accept it, and blah, blah, blah.

No. That relates purely to self. To you. You act as if astrology gives you an excuse to be a d!ck head and everyone else should accept you. It doesn't. You're the @sshole that's boring and critical and misunderstood. In fact, I don't even think you're misunderstood. I think people just see you for what you are. What gets me is you know you're this way. You say as much in your post, at least the ones I've caffeinated up to battle crippling sleep to get through, and yet you find no reason for self improvement. You just whine, and whine, and whine. I would've thought you were a Pisces or something. No offense Haffo LOL.

Now, granted. It's your prerogative to be that way. But, it's also everyone else's prerogative to leave you to your own devices in the corner wearing a red dunce cap playing with yourself. As long as you're this way, you're going to be alone, "misunderstood," and whatever other self pitying adjective of your own perception you molest into describing your place in the world. No wonder that Pisces went to a Leo. Okay, that was cheap shot lol. Ahhh, you're grown. You can take it.

Use that backwards gift for tactlessness and unwanted criticism to beautify yourself for a change.

As for Toto.

Why do you have to attack anyone with a different point of view Cancerlady.

Yeah. Okay. I know Bush is screwing up but have we really got to the point where prescription glasses are that expensive? What the hell are you talking about? She didn't attack Brahn. In fact it was the other way around. I not sure the ax you have to grind against CancerLady, but . . ."Smear your face with shoe polish." "As if us black women have . . ." I guess this where the disconnect is. Somewhere down the line, oddly enough, you forgot or didn't realize CancerLady is an INDIVIDUAL and speaks only for herself. I mean, if CancerLady had the burden of speaking for the entire population of black women, then yeah. Perhaps you'd have a point. But . . . that's not her job. I'm actually baffled as to what gave you the indication it was.

She's open. . .you're not. So what? Get over yourself. One state of being isn't better than the other, it's just different. Why should your discomfort with something affect her? She post what she wants. If you don't like it, then you don't like. Opinions are like @ssholes and it appears we're in no short supply.

An embarrassment to the entire . . . you know what? This is kind of pissing me off, and it's too stupid to continue to reply to. Somewhere in life Missy, you're going to realize that people are people. They're individuals. They're different! That difference doesn't mean worse, just different. Just because you don't "GET" or "AGREE" with something, doesn't meant it's wrong, or out of place. It simply means you don't "GET IT" or "AGREE" with it. Eventually, well, hopefull, you'll learn of two subjective states or opinions, one doesn't automatically take prominence.

CancerLady. Be you. She thought Grizzly's post were funny, not to mention her handle is named after the mutt from The Wizard of Oz. Nuff said.

Geez! What, are you and Brahn born on the same day or something? Go sta
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I think where people are missing sight here- is that there serious posts, and then there are jokes.

It was my understanding that it was created in jest. Of course, people were going to respond how they wanted. BTW, Everyone said "it's cheating". However, most people took this post for the light-weight discussion that it is.. and others just went overboard with their criticisms/ judgements. Bottom line fellow friends- if we don't think it's funny, we don't have to respond. Turn your back on what you feel is a bad joke, and it goes away.

In this particular situation, brahn, you wanted to make a serious topic out of a blatant joke. Then, to add insult to injury, you made some wide sweeping generalizations about the women in Atlanta. Which in my mind- is more unsettling than what cancerlady does in her bedroom. Of course, you are free to think and write what you want. If I disagree with you- then I state my grievances and move on. I don't try to analyze your life- give you suggestions on how to change... tell you what you're doing is wrong.. then attribute your behavior to all men in Atlanta, or all Virgos...or blah blah blah---

My greatest issue with &toto's post is that she made it a "black" thing.. a "woman" thing. It was loaded with personal attacks that seemed irrelevant to the topic at hand, and why? Cancerlady is a friend in my head- but she does not speak for or represent me.. I have my own mouth and mind for that.

As far as "sugar-coating" goes, I will say this to EVERYONE: you can state your opinion with understanding and straight-forwardness- OR you can use your opinion to bash someone's head in-- which do you think provides a more conducive environment for conversation? That is what this board is about, right? Conversation?

I think this is a discussion board. WE can post what we want- and people respond any-way they want... HOWEVER I think to keep conversation going.. if we disagree with an idea- stick to the facts.. I don't see why we have to stoop to personal attacks to get a point across....
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Hey Brahn, I have a question to you . . .

You said, "the consensus is that black Americans have a culture of sexual promiscuity." What the 'ell?

I don't know about this, where does this information come from? I've been a white female for 46 years, from the south - never heard this, never thought this - what is going on?

Why do you say this? Why does toto say these things? I find this quite insulting because it insinuates that because I am white, that it is me who has placed this upon another human being because of the color of thier skin.

Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - the beast in P-Angel is starting to rise. Soon, my ax will come out and I will crucify . . . quick, I need an Aries to hold me and calm me down.
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You saved yourself from my harsh words that were itching to come out, Brahn. I had to go outside and let off some steam. I take offense, serious offense with words that reference . . . well, you get my point.

There are certain things that will blow my gaskets and because I am Pisces - it's difficult for me to get past my emotions. I believe you in what you said in your last post, however, I will never accept it. People are people - that's all!!!!!
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Well, P-Angel.. I would say, that the stereotype is not new... however I also think that thanks to American pop culture- the stereotype is changing.

Brahn, you're right, sometimes the many are judged by the actions of the few. It is unfortunate.

Also, your statistics.. are those purely African American (blacks born in the states>😉-- or does that include Carribean/ African American (citizens born in Africa)?

I would like to add that high occurrance of AIDS and HIV, has little to do with promiscuity- and more to do with lack of education. Meaning- education concerning the virus, how it is spread, and how to protect one's self. Additionally- how a community views sex- and contraception has a direct effect on how quickly an STD can spread. Not too long ago, I was listening to NPR, and an editorial discussed how in certain parts of Africa there were high occurrences of the virus in very conservative communities. Mainly because the (1.) the disease was considered a non-hetero problem (2.) couples felt no need to wear condoms.

Anyway, I digress..
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P-Angel, coming back full circle.. I've lived in both the south and the north- and I've heard the stereotype on several occassions. As a matter of fact, not too long ago when I was trying to "meet" people through chat lines- I experienced some first-hand racist-sexism. Why? Well, could be images in rap videos..could be how black women have been portrayed in black exploitation films.. maybe if we want to talk about this- it deserves it's own post...

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STD - I guess I just don't pay attention to such things. Maybe that's being racist in itself, though I don't mean for it to be that way. I don't listen to rap (an old hippy, I am, free love and all that crap) and I don't watch movies or programes that reference this topic. Perhaps I should so I can be more informed. Now I feel really bad because of my ignorance - if that's being racist - I am so sorry. Your gonna make me cry, STD - I'm sorry sweetie!
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FYI

The reason I keep jumping back and forth over my Pisces guy is because I am confused...There are and were many kinks between the two of us that continue to be worked out to this day.

Who knew this would be made into a whole race issue when really I don't understand WHY this issue is so serious. HONESTLY! We are NOT married, We have only been in an exclusive relationship for two months, and it was only oral sex!

Damn Gina, I didn't know! as Martin would say...

I have read SO many posts where men & women were talking about lusting after a married/involved man or woman but none of those people received the full frontal beat-down that I did...

Seems a little unfair.
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Who you calling coloured?


When I?m born, ?I?m black?, when I grow up, ?I?m black?, when I go in sun, ?I?m black?, when I?m cold, ?I?m black?, when I?m scared, ?I?m black?, when I?m sick, ?I?m black?, and when I die, I am still ?black?.

You white folks....when you born, you ?pink?, when you grow up, you ?white?,
When you go in sun, you ?red?, when you cold, you ?blue?, when you scared, you ?yellow?,
When you sick, you ?green?, when you bruised, you ?purple?, and when you die, you ?grey?.

So who you calling' coloured folk's —


Cheer up people?..

Nothing wrong with black?..
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Why does everything always have to be so damn serious and logical all the time? Why can't I make a joke here and there? My Goodness, Brahn0913 it is a wonder that you have any fun in life!

You seriously need to just chill out a bit...It is not that serious and I refuse to take it that seriously.

My picture could be fake, my attitude could be fake, my stories could be fake and just for entertainment...so why make it seem like the fate of the whole black community is on my back?

I am beginning to see why so many people leave here and never come back. There is no room for individuality here. This is so ridiculous!

&Toto- What is your problem with me? What did I do to you for everything I say you come back with some snide nasty comment. It seems as if you are perpetuating the stereotype of "the Angry Black woman" I am so curious as to what personal vendetta you have against me. Does it bother you so much that I post my personal life on her? Why? SO many others do also...Why do I get bashed for it? Because I go into more detail? Because I do and say things others won't or can't? What would you have me post so I won't seem like I am a juvenile crying out for attention. So I won't represent every black woman as a slut...Let me know because I am so confused as to what your problem is.

Wouldn't this place be boring without people like me to spice it up?

Cancerlady
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By the way...

It seems like when I post non sexual topics, NOONE responds but when I post sexual topics there seems to be quite an increase in the responses.

For instance, when I posted "Self-Fulfilling Prophecy(Virgo)" or "Auto Insurance (Misc)" where were all the people then? Hmmm? But as soon as I post "Is Oral SEX" here comes everyone with an opinion. I mean don't get me wrong, that's what I wanted but don't act like I am the only person who like talking about sex and controversy (did I spell that right?) Why else does Britney Spears actually have a show? Cause people wanna know dirt!

SO, that being said...I am going to continue to be me and talk about the things that interest me. If you don't like it...Please feel free to comment on it, but don't make me responsible for anyone but myself because truth be told, I don't view myself as "african american" I am simply American. I am simply Cancerlady.

That's all.
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People are so drawn to sex-related topics....and love to get into other people's business as mentioend above. And thats what the"Pop Icons" bank upon. Many of them.They sell an image to begin with...the talent usually acompanies it or follows it. To do that they create an image of themselves which will add that "thrill" among the people. And how people get hooked on to those Pop star's personal life....shows...
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"People like me, &toto, P-Angel, VS, SeizeTheDay, all exist in the REAL world in more brutal and deceptive forms" - where's this statement coming from—?......the land of make-believe and honey or are we entering the Gotham City Zone!!!—?!!!! You are making sweeping generalizations as usual and insulting some of the best of the best on this board, including yourself!!!..........you claim to operate from your "logical" mind but you are so dam logical Branh you are becoming "illogical" to me anyway.......either I'm losing the plot or....— - it's very OK to be a deep thinker (but in your case we are talking 20,000 Leagues Beneath the Sea!!!! - way too deep - you're gonna drown in all that logic..........so jump off that submarine before it submerges again and swim in the sea of emotions for just a little while Mister...lose you mind and come to your senses:-)

A x


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Some words from my corner.

Branh?.

Deep thinker.. is a sunken thinker...!

Lights of true wisdom and knowledge won?t penetrate in depth?.. It will be always a true darkness?!

To gain the knowledge and wisdom one must operate in any level of existence and experience it by own, without being judgemental of other?s actions and thoughts!

Chill out man?!


?Always bring smile to the life, even if your heart is ripped off by the sorrow and pain.?

?Eastern Sufi?s proverb?
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Alana, I don't get it either. You're not the one losing the plot. If so, it's all of us.

Q, you're right on this, . . .without being judgemental of other?s actions and thoughts!

There's nothing wrong with being a deep thinker. But, in that "deep thinking" there has to be a severe distinction between what you as an individual believes to be right and wrong and what actually is right and wrong. We all have things that stike us a particular way before thought even asserts itself. But it's just "our" take. Our opinion, especially in areas where subjectivity runs amuck. Often what we hold to our chest as ultimate correctness is often our opinion in drag.

This is what gets about you Brahn. Belittling comments like this. "People like me, &toto, P-Angel, VS, SeizeTheDay, all exist in the REAL world in more brutal and deceptive forms." First, don't compare me to you and Toto. I don't know her, but you've got a lot of growing up to do. You . . .it's offensive. It insinuates your view of the world is correct and her's is lacking. Truth is no where to be found in that. You have this way of seeing the distance between your opinion and another's as the extent to how wrong they are versus . . .you annoy the hell out of me for some reason LOL.

Okay, I agree with you on this. Sloppy thinking is annoying. People do stupid things at times and hold out there views. There are instances of right and wrong in the world, at the very least, efficient and inefficient way of doing things. Archetype Virgos are pretty good at picking this stuff out. Virgo sun, and Virgo rising. I pretty much take people apart in my head within the first meeting. At the same time, there's a point where it's none of my business. We all chose our lives to learn particular lessons. Not to mention, perfection being highly elusive even for the best of us, judgment, especially when it's taken as another as being "lesser" is way off.

Things can be logical, and wrong lol. I can take things a certain way, have perfectly valid reasons, and I end up being perfectly wrong lol. It's . . .all right. I'm not having a go at you. I hope it doesn't come across that way. Perhaps, what gets me is I was the same way when I was younger, I don't know. It's rough road you're going though. It's . . .at the same time. It is yours so . . .

Sorry if things come out jumbled, in a rush.

Take care all,

VirgoSquared
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WOW Cancerlady.

Girl!! you wrote a post about oral sex that is 90 messages strong (and growing).

In my mind, that speaks volumes. Not to mention, it:

* sparked the entire rainbow of emotions...

* branched out into different social topics..

* inspired Qbone to recite poetry..

and caused the exploration of "self" and "identity".

Call it a low-brow, cheap thrill if you want... but for me, it's genuis .. thank you Cancerlady.

*claps* .. I don't know about the rest of you, but I am impressed. 🙂
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hey sweet-P
enjoying but ve been missing you. It's interesting to note here that the whole dxpnet shakes up with quake of like 10 on a ritcher scale with 2 extreme approaches ..one, cancerlady's hottie-spicy one ...and Branh's "thinking in the deep" ones. And all rest of us flowing wiht the tide...err swaying wildly with the vibrations caused by the quake. Truly quite an emancipating experience I must say. 😉
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Oral sex is it cheating well cancerlady did you return the Favor to the guy u were with?? or did he only give you oral?? I don't know if it's cheating or not i can't say what's right or wrong, I know I never want marriage, and I don't really know if I can commit to one man for the rest of my life either so I'd probably say hell no it's not cheating as long as they don't find out about it LOL!!
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QBone...Once again you have made a ridiculously valid point. Thank you for the insight! I get an average of 2 guys per day saying "Baby I'll suck the lining out of ...." but I don't give in so I think I am strong!

Okay that was kinda crass but it's true! Just yesterday this courier said to me (WHILE AT WORK!) Damn baby you sure know how to fill out a pair of pants...What an @ss! Needless to say he got in major trouble to the point that the company they came from is never going to use that courier again.

Sometimes it's so hard being me...

Cancerlady

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WaterBaby18...

No it was all on the receiving end...we used to mess around for a minute but he has a small penis & comes fast so we didn't last (Hey I made a funny!)

Let me explain why I think I am different from everyone in my views on cheating.

If I have a husband...There is no doubt that I couldn't allow him to do anything that I wasn't involved in...I could very well be a swinger if that was something he was interested in. But then again, I am having a hard time imagining myself with only one man. I wouldn't want to swing regularly...just enough to add that extra spice! I know I would be able to forgive him of cheating but only if it was a random act of sex, he protected himself, and he's doesn't have some woman shacked up on the other side of town.

As far as a boyfriend...I always tell them "What I don't know won't hurt me." If you feel my freaky @ss is not fulfilling enough for you or if you found someone who will do something I won't...by all means go for it! Just keep me in the dark. I don't like honesty at all in that realm of life. That's why I rarely ask questions...Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies. If my P-man happened to get some head from a random girl...I honestly don't think I would be mad. Nor if he was on the road and slipped up. I can forgive to a certain extent as long as I stay satisfied. As soon as you neglect MY needs...we have a problem.

My philosophy is that I can only control what I do and my reactions to what other people do. When we are born, we are born alone...we die alone. I can never fully possess ANYONE, even my own child so why stress it? His body is his to do what he wants with but if he gives his heart away, i.e. having another girlfriend type, I can't deal with that. I know it's kinda weird, but so am I.

Maybe this will help those of you who don't understand why I asked this question to understand my view on this.

Yeah, I love Brahn0913 too, I just want him to loosen up a bit. He's way too uptight about life in general.

Cancerlady

As far as a boyfriend
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Hey Cancerlady!

Like your grip on reality. But then is that really YOU? I mean double Cancer & Mars in Taurus? That is a super intuitive & psychic combi. You may have the power to intuitively knwo even if the manis indulging in occasional slip ups ..however discreetly.Even without these placements..women are pretty intuitive in sniffing out a rat!

See these occassioanl slip ups is just like walking on a tightrope. One can anytime fall on either side. Okay if a person is comfortable wiht that...has the resilience..fine. But if astrology has soem meaning i would be worried for a typical cancerian woman accpeting her man's slip ups .... the cancer heart does bleed..

And that protection thing. You think all people are honest enough to admit that they occassioanlly slip up there too? These slip ups are risk behaviours.

And yes I did mention that I am non-judgemental. Would find it very difficult to call it off ...but also would find it difficult to keep it like before.

Guess it is my Leo Moon? Too possessive...arrogant? Gosh I dont even take to flirting kindly. I dont believe there is anything like harmless flirting. and yes I give loyalty in equal measure. It is like that famous leonine toast..."Here is for our love..to you & me..I will be loyal as long as thee".
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STD...Are you sure it was GUM you choked on? *wink*
"We like them boys uptop from the BK, know how to flip that money three ways!"

Looneybird...Yeah that's me! I am a union of idiosyncrasies and contradictions. I think it all boils down to me hoping for the best but expecting and mentally preparing myself for the worst.

BUT let's just put it like this...My oldest sister says I have this incredible knack for ignoring the bad stuff and only seeing the good part of the situation or person.