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Pisces men - general behaviour..is this normal/usual?
You need to catch him first.
I would have played cat and mouse with my ex Fish for ages, but I've put my foot down and said I'm coming to live with him! There was nowhere to hide afterwards š
I would have played cat and mouse with my ex Fish for ages, but I've put my foot down and said I'm coming to live with him! There was nowhere to hide afterwards š
Posted by Undine
You need to catch him first.
I would have played cat and mouse with my ex Fish for ages, but I've put my foot down and said I'm coming to live with him! There was nowhere to hide afterwards š
Wow!
Really?
I'm impressed xx
How did you catch him though?
This Pisces guy wants it all his way. Or nothing.
Having said that..he's Aries Mars!
They are very much "My Way or The Highway."
Posted by Undine
You need to catch him first.
I would have played cat and mouse with my ex Fish for ages, but I've put my foot down and said I'm coming to live with him! There was nowhere to hide afterwards š
How did you put your foot down?
How long were you together?
How & Why did it end?
Posted by pooface222Posted by Undine
You need to catch him first.
I would have played cat and mouse with my ex Fish for ages, but I've put my foot down and said I'm coming to live with him! There was nowhere to hide afterwards š
Wow!
Really?
I'm impressed xx
How did you catch him though?
This Pisces guy wants it all his way. Or nothing.
Having said that..he's Aries Mars!
They are very much "My Way or The Highway."click to expand
He's bragging. I'm Aries Mars too. I eventually give up, if someone I care is even more stubborn than myself.
Posted by pooface222
I need to ask..
TWO Things.
1) Is it the normal done thing with Pisces men, to want a woman so much, that when he gets the chance to be with her...disappears?!?
Eg he's scared. Because now she's showing interest, he's scared to death and doesn't know what to do?
I've read lots of here about the Classic Pisces disappearing act in relationships.
I'm asking because this behaviour just confuses the hell out of me!
It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
But..
Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
Then I hold back. To stop him disappearing again. He feels hurt I'm not showing my feelings for him. Soooo..I show my feelings and POOF he's gone again!
Now..
2) Is it normal for Pisces men to be Stubborn and Selfish in a relationship.?
Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And of they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.
1) I cant say this for all pisces. But perhaps this story MIGHT be related.
So i want to get close to this woman and then she agree with it. Then it hit me "what if i trully with her ? what happen next ? whats the pros and con ?", so i need time to think of it myself before i make a final decision that i 100% gonna commit to it or leave it. Because if i choose to commit, then theres no turning back.
The dissapearance act you see might be "he need time to think".
I said MIGHT BE, because everypeople are different no matter what their zodiac sign are.
2) "Only wanting the relationship on Their terms", I dont know about others, but for me, its my way to test the person that "they are worthy for my love or not". When im in love, i give everything for the person, attention emotion love wealth etc everything, but im not stupid enough giving it to just everybody, i need to see that the person are worthy for it.
"How did you put your foot down? How long were you together? How & Why did it end?"
We knew each other for years and it was clear that he was crushing on me, without making a move. One day I told him that I needed a new place to live, so how about his home? We were together for a few years after I moved in, but eventually the similarity killed our chemistry and we parted as friends. He said he liked a strong partner who knew what she wanted. Someone to feel at home with, but also to feel like being at the centre of the universe. And so do I.
Your other questions:
1) I know nothing about "Pisces disappearance". He wouldn't disappear from his own home, would he? š
I dated another two Pisces before, and it was me who "disappeared", but for the right reasons. In one case the holiday was over, and so the holiday romance. The other Pisces told me that our relationship was over, but kept turning up on my door, fantasising about our last, great romantic trip to say goodbye on a ship sailing through the Norvegian fjords. I had enough when he went to Australia and came back infatuated with another woman.
2) Pisces are not selfish, none of us were. Not stubborn either, but I have been called stubborn before...by my dad, who said that I was more stubborn than my Taurus mum.
We knew each other for years and it was clear that he was crushing on me, without making a move. One day I told him that I needed a new place to live, so how about his home? We were together for a few years after I moved in, but eventually the similarity killed our chemistry and we parted as friends. He said he liked a strong partner who knew what she wanted. Someone to feel at home with, but also to feel like being at the centre of the universe. And so do I.
Your other questions:
1) I know nothing about "Pisces disappearance". He wouldn't disappear from his own home, would he? š
I dated another two Pisces before, and it was me who "disappeared", but for the right reasons. In one case the holiday was over, and so the holiday romance. The other Pisces told me that our relationship was over, but kept turning up on my door, fantasising about our last, great romantic trip to say goodbye on a ship sailing through the Norvegian fjords. I had enough when he went to Australia and came back infatuated with another woman.
2) Pisces are not selfish, none of us were. Not stubborn either, but I have been called stubborn before...by my dad, who said that I was more stubborn than my Taurus mum.
Posted by ScorpioDreams
Pisces men are beautiful souls, but very confusing at the same time. Though I donāt think they mean to be. They are definitely not for the faint of heart. For me there has always been mad chemistry between us, but Iāve learned over the years we make better friends than lovers. And Iām ok with that. I adore Pisces men and women. They will always hold a special place in my heart. ā¤ļø
Aww that's so sweet.
I feel the same.
I ADORE Pisces men and am a little obsessed with them.
I have a close female friend who is also a pisces.
Posted by ImperfectStorm
Is this the same Pisces that has kept you in emotional limbo for yearsā
I hate to admit it.
But..
Yes
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This year he has said the following..
"Its well and truly over between me and my partner."
He said this š a few months ago.
"I am addicted to you."
"Our connection is insane"
These last 2 things he said in the last month.
No this is not a "normal Pisces man thing".
But this is normal for the Pisces man you've been entertaining over the years.
For fuck sake! You divorced and bought a home and he still is with his partner and won't leave his, allegedly miserable, relationship and be with you.
Him saying he is done with her might mean something if it wasn't for his track record.
He also painted a romantic picture of how your life would be together if ONLY you end your marriage. You did and nothing changed.
He is a coward who won't change his life for you while expecting you to do the very same for him.
He is not scared. He knows he can treat you this way (disappear, put you last, etc) and you will still answer his calls when he decides to take you off the shelf to play.
But this is normal for the Pisces man you've been entertaining over the years.
For fuck sake! You divorced and bought a home and he still is with his partner and won't leave his, allegedly miserable, relationship and be with you.
Him saying he is done with her might mean something if it wasn't for his track record.
He also painted a romantic picture of how your life would be together if ONLY you end your marriage. You did and nothing changed.
He is a coward who won't change his life for you while expecting you to do the very same for him.
He is not scared. He knows he can treat you this way (disappear, put you last, etc) and you will still answer his calls when he decides to take you off the shelf to play.
1. Abnormal.
2. Normal
2. Normal
Posted by LadyNeptune
No this is not a "normal Pisces man thing".
But this is normal for the Pisces man you've been entertaining over the years.
For fuck sake! You divorced and bought a home and he still is with his partner and won't leave his, allegedly miserable, relationship and be with you.
Him saying he is done with her might mean something if it wasn't for his track record.
He also painted a romantic picture of how your life would be together if ONLY you end your marriage. You did and nothing changed.
He is a coward who won't change his life for you while expecting you to do the very same for him.
He is not scared. He knows he can treat you this way (disappear, put you last, etc) and you will still answer his calls when he decides to take you off the shelf to play.
Yes I know. Everything you said is totally right and I totally agree with everything on your post.
The problem is that I'm trying to let go of him and its hard.
Its been 7 fucking years and as you said I've lost my marriage and everything.
Even this year - LAST MONTH in fact - he was still complaining about her to me while we had a coffee in the gym.
He said "I'm lonely. There's no connection between me and her."
I wanted to say two things.
1) SO FUCKING WHAT?! I'M LONELY. AND I'VE LOST MY MARRIAGE TRYING TO BE WITH YOU!
2) Well you love our insane connection and you're addicted to me. So.be with me finally! Come on!"
But..i was too emotionally exhausted to say either of them.
So i just looked at him.
Plus. I'm a Capricorn. Like my sign, I hold onto the bitter bitter end when I'm in love. I can't speak for all Caps but i can speak for myself.
I find it really hard to let go.
And the deeper in love I am, the harder still it is šŖ
What do you think about centaurās posts??
Posted by LadyNeptune
No this is not a "normal Pisces man thing".
But this is normal for the Pisces man you've been entertaining over the years.
For fuck sake! You divorced and bought a home and he still is with his partner and won't leave his, allegedly miserable, relationship and be with you.
Him saying he is done with her might mean something if it wasn't for his track record.
He also painted a romantic picture of how your life would be together if ONLY you end your marriage. You did and nothing changed.
He is a coward who won't change his life for you while expecting you to do the very same for him.
He is not scared. He knows he can treat you this way (disappear, put you last, etc) and you will still answer his calls when he decides to take you off the shelf to play.
Also..
Meant to say that the reason I wrote this post is exactly what you wrote in yours.
I was asking if Pisces men are Selfish etc. This Pisces wanted me to throw away my ENTIRE Life - Marriage, Family, Home, Life, Security etc so that he could move in to my house once I've bought one after divorce.
Which means he moves out of his partners house and into mine!
NICE!
NOT!
She threw Her life away for him and look where that got her?! Cheated on. Lied to. And used financially.
He told me earlier this year that he cheated on her with a friend of hers only 2yrs in to his relationship with her!?! FFS!
So there's me thinking he's unhappy and I'm sure he is. BUT.
As you quite rightly said ...his behaviour in seeing me behind her back, is fine IF he leaves her.
But he just whinges and whines and stays with her.
He even admitted to being a coward this year too!
Undine said she took her Pisces in hand, by putting her foot down!
I wish I had done that 5 years ago when I first posted on here!
I was depressed and had anxiety and my head wasn't in the right place for putting my foot down.
I was pretty messed up so i guess i just accidentally and insecurely let him walk all over me.
I'm not depressed anymore thank god. I'm in therapy twice a month to sort all my pain and mess out.
I'm still suffering anxiety but its nit just to do with him.
It's the emotional pain of being a single mum whose marriage broke down to a controlling bossy Aries husband.
No offence any Aries here by the way x
I'm simply referring to my Aries ex-husband.
I hate not seeing my little girl 50% of the time because me and the ex haven't spoken for 4yrs.
It rips me up inside.
Hence the anxiety.
Anyhoo..
I'll end this post for now lol x
So these days I'm fed up with his shit. Frustrated. But still love him!
I know. I know.
SAD!
Posted by sweethearts
What do you think about centaurās posts??
Are you asking Me this question?
Or someone else on here?
Also I haven't read, or remember reading Centaurs posts.
What are they about?
Why have you mentioned them?
Posted by ImperfectStormShe threw Her life away for him and look where that got her?! Cheated on. Lied to. And used financially.
He told me earlier this year that he cheated on her with a friend of hers only 2yrs in to his relationship with her!?! FFS!
So there's me thinking he's unhappy and I'm sure he is. BUT.
As you quite rightly said ...his behaviour in seeing me behind her back, is fine IF he leaves her.
But he just whinges and whines and stays with her.
Oh ok, so heās a serial cheater š š
He will cheat on her with anyone or everyone, including you.. because she allows it and continuously takes him back, and you also allow it because you buy into the idea that āour connection is so intenseā. If he has cheated on her before your connection is not nearly as unique or meaningful as he has convinced you that it is. And truthfully he would do the exact same thing to you if the two of you ever did make it official.
He whines and stays with her and also comes swimming back to you on occasion because the both of you are probably the only women who will tolerate his buffoonery. I really hope youāre able to pull yourself out of this Neptune fog and move on with your life. Itās depressing as hell that youāve already lost all these years chasing after this knucklehead. At some point you have tp accept accountability for deceiving yourself and breaking your own heart a thousand times over.
I know. I really Do know that i have been prolonging the agony myself.
He's a deeply selfish bastard who when I suggested- 5yrs ago - that we start slow and rent together, he wouldn't do it.
You know why?
Because he wanted to keep his money for himself!
I have to wreck my entire life for Him, making an ENORMOUS Sacrifice! While he refused to make the small sacrifice of renting with me, just for a year while I get divorced!
This is why I get annoyed/upset when a Pisces on here - no offence to him though - said he Tests the person he is seeing, to see if that person is worthy of his love.
I get that.
BUT. .
This Pisces guy in my life, may be testing me as well! EG Seeing if I will divorce my husband so he (pisces), can move in to my house!
To me though, this is not him testing me!
This is him TAKING THE GODDAMN F**KING PISS! MASSIVELY!
Posted by pooface222Posted by sweethearts
What do you think about centaurās posts??
Are you asking Me this question?
Or someone else on here?
Also I haven't read, or remember reading Centaurs posts.
What are they about?
Why have you mentioned them?click to expand
You, because Iām sure youād have an opinion on his posts and at least he pines after someone that isnāt taken.
It blows my mind that after everything you have been through with this Pisces and how well you were doing at one stage that he still has you in his claws. Itās like you thrive off the push pull of this relationshipā¦ does it make you feel alive? I would wonder if you ever had him to yourself whether youād be satisfied as itāll probably be mundane and nowhere near as exciting anymore??
Posted by sweetheartsPosted by pooface222Posted by sweethearts
What do you think about centaurās posts??
Are you asking Me this question?
Or someone else on here?
Also I haven't read, or remember reading Centaurs posts.
What are they about?
Why have you mentioned them?
You, because Iām sure youād have an opinion on his posts and at least he pines after someone that isnāt taken.
It blows my mind that after everything you have been through with this Pisces and how well you were doing at one stage that he still has you in his claws. Itās like you thrive off the push pull of this relationshipā¦ does it make you feel alive? I would wonder if you ever had him to yourself whether youād be satisfied as itāll probably be mundane and nowhere near as exciting anymore??click to expand
Ok no I haven't read Centaurs posts. Maybe I will.
With regards to whether I thrive off the Push/Pull dynamic..well..Yes and No.
Yes because he makes me feel that "This time we will be together."
No because of the reality. It HURTS!
And quite honestly, I would love the 'mundane' as you call it.
The mundane as I see it, is Normality.
The Normality of living together. Going to bed together. Waking up together. Evenings and weekends together.
And even the boring day to day stuff like housework, grocery shopping, cooking..
I genuinely enjoy the mundane too because I just truly love being with someone I love, and who loves me.
I see happiness in the mundane, because I look at the Bigger Picture.
And that is our life together x
And when I say 'Our Life' I'm not referring to me and Pisces guy, I'm just talking generally about how I am in a relationship with a guy I love eyc.
Posted by ImperfectStorm
There is a Pisces that my Virgo sister dated 15 years ago, he is now with another Pisces but he has convinced my sister of the same thing.. heās convinced her that he is so unhappy in his current relationship and my sister is not physically involved with him but she is emotionally tied up to him and basically āwaitingā on him. As women itās natural for us to be emotional and want to follow our hearts, but we have to remember to take our brains with us.
It may be true that he is unhappy in his relationship, in that case HE needs to be man enough to find the strength to leave the situation. You will never be strong enough to push him to make that decision and you are wasting precious time and losing his respect by trying to do so.
Here is the irony.
I Am strong enough to push him to leave her. Always have been.
However I am also cautious of the twisted way he is. If I push him to leave her and it goes wrong between me and him, it will be MY Fault!
He is very petty and finger pointy!
And nothing is ever His fault. It will be MY Fault for pushing him to leave her.
No thanks. Don't want that sh*t chucked in my face!
Grow a Pair, Mr Pisces!
Also being very aware of my strength, I've kept it hidden because HONESTLY?
If I have to PUSH a man, to be with me (leave his partner) - regardless of his star sign - that makes me feel WRETCHED!
Think about this!
I find this quite demeaning!
It would be like THROWING MYSELF at him!?!
BEGGING HIM even!
Like I'm desperate for him!
Ok I am lol.
But no damn way was I going to let him know I'm desperate for him!
Eww no thanks!
I get what you're saying about pushing him to leave; to prove to him how much I want him.
I get it. I really do x
Because then he may have respected me!
Right?
But..isnt that rather Masculine?
Like a man fighting for a woman?
Maybe that's what he wants.
He wants me fight for him. Like a man fights for a woman.
He's a Pisces. A Feminine sign. Feminine energy.
And this Pisces man has - very sexy- feminine energy. Its subtle. But its there. You can feel it.
And I LOVE it. He's subtly manly too which just makes him even more sexy!
I'm a Capricorn. I'm ruled by Saturn.
A Cold Masculine energy!
So as you said ..I haven't fought for him, so now he has Zero respect for me. I've just trundled along in an affair situation when really I too should have Grown a Pair, and said..
"Right Mr Pisces! I Love you! I Want you! I want to spend my life with you! But if you're not leaving her for me then I'm Gone! "
Something along those lines anyway.
Now..
I have NEVER EVER said that to him!
Not once.
He said to me - after a few months - "I want a relationship with you."
I said it back "Likewise. I want a relationship with you."
Ever since then he has played the Push/Pull, Hot/Cold, Back/Forth, Disappear/Reappear behaviour!
And I've read that Pisces men do this when they are not sure of you.
And why should he/would he be sure of me??
I never fought for him.
No passion to be with him.
No pain that he is not leaving her.
No PUSH from me to say LEAVE HER! I WANT YOU!
I've kept my feelings under CONTROL in my typically Capricornian way!
CONTROL is our oxygen! SELF-CONTROL!
Hence why its felt embarrassing for me to let go and fight for him! It makes me feel WEAK and like I'm literally chucking myself at him!
I CAN fight for him though!
I just don't want to.
And I chose not to!
Its demeaning to me. Insulting actually!
If I have to CONVINCE a man, to leave her,to be with me, then he is just not worth the fight.
If a man wants me then BE WITH ME!
And that has been my attitude towards him these 7yrs.
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
Ask him to come with a detailed plan (or two) for your common future. To pitch them to you, so you could reject or approve them.
Where are the two of you going to live, how will your home be financed, who will be doing what chores, and when will this happen. Details and deadlines, ready for negotiation.
Tell him (and yourself!) that once the plan/ the deadline is broken, the relationship is broken for good, there is no going back. Tell him you are fed up, you want a responsible man, not a teenager. Sweet but empty words over a coffee are not doing it anymore for you, you are over that silly phase.
An Aries Mars should like a challenge and taking charge. A Pisces with Aries Mars, I always make such plans, in fact I dream about them on a daily basis, if my relationship seems serious and steady.
Ask him not to contact you again, until he shows you those plans. Shit, or get off the pot should become the motto of your relationship from now. The dabbling in the dark is over.
Also, think carefully about wanting to set home with him. What are his core values? What exactly made him cheat (no, itās not you, it could have been anyone).
Where are the two of you going to live, how will your home be financed, who will be doing what chores, and when will this happen. Details and deadlines, ready for negotiation.
Tell him (and yourself!) that once the plan/ the deadline is broken, the relationship is broken for good, there is no going back. Tell him you are fed up, you want a responsible man, not a teenager. Sweet but empty words over a coffee are not doing it anymore for you, you are over that silly phase.
An Aries Mars should like a challenge and taking charge. A Pisces with Aries Mars, I always make such plans, in fact I dream about them on a daily basis, if my relationship seems serious and steady.
Ask him not to contact you again, until he shows you those plans. Shit, or get off the pot should become the motto of your relationship from now. The dabbling in the dark is over.
Also, think carefully about wanting to set home with him. What are his core values? What exactly made him cheat (no, itās not you, it could have been anyone).
Posted by pooface222
And that has been my attitude towards him these 7yrs.
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
Hell no. Chasing a Pisces will make him swim towards the Marianas deep! Just give a hint, let him bite and take it over from there. No effort required from his side means heās not going to value what heās got and stay committed, loyal. Why do you think he isnāt loyal to the Gem?
Posted by pooface222
I need to ask..
TWO Things.
1) Is it the normal done thing with Pisces men, to want a woman so much, that when he gets the chance to be with her...disappears?!?
Eg he's scared. Because now she's showing interest, he's scared to death and doesn't know what to do?
I've read lots of here about the Classic Pisces disappearing act in relationships.
I'm asking because this behaviour just confuses the hell out of me!
It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
But..
Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
Then I hold back. To stop him disappearing again. He feels hurt I'm not showing my feelings for him. Soooo..I show my feelings and POOF he's gone again!
Now..
2) Is it normal for Pisces men to be Stubborn and Selfish in a relationship.?
Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And of they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.
Oh my gosh bish bye. Just forget about him. The right person/the one for you won't be this much of a damn emotional, mental and physical hassle for either of you.
But answering your question, yeah the disappearing reappearing magician act is so common probably. I'm only basing this off of one dude though. A lot of Pisces guys get attracted to me for some reason, probably cause of my Leo Mars' confidence and energy.
But they were all physically unattractive to me and some were weird. One was a liar to my family as well and I don't date liars.
Anyway, the one Pisces I'm talking about, I was pretty sure he liked me and he was kind of physically attractive and he was sweet and funny at times and we talked about cool stuff but turns out, he was a complete stalker. From sweetie to nightmare in just 2 months.
I made a reddit post to ask if he actually likes me or not and turns out, he stalks my profile and he confessed on our call that he read my post. And basically asked if I liked him etc.
It was just unexpected for me. I was too shocked to answer and kept avoiding it pretty much then just broke and said "yeah I do, but we can still be friends, I don't mind".
It was just awkward. And I don't remember what else happened but I ended up blocking him on one app. But since we followed each other on other apps, he ended up contacting me on one of them. And he was asking why I blocked him and as a Virgo Sun and Libra Mercury and Venus, I just tend to be non confrontational and get scared by it and run away from it if I can (i'm working on not doing that more). Anyway, I didn't answer and just blocked him again. I was getting creeped out and violated.
He went onto the other app and did it again. And it quickly turned into harassment. He started harassing my close online girl friend who's a Pisces girl too about where I am and why I blocked him. And he was harassing her everyday and showing how obsessive he became over me. And I told her to block him and not reply anything. I was scared for her safety too, it made me hate him. I felt incredibly sorry that my friend got dragged into this even.
And this Pisces dude never verbally confessed his interest to me after I admitted my mediocre interest. His reaction seemed like he didn't like me and I was wrong about my suspicions. But considering how obsessive he went in with his harassing and stalking online of me and my friend, I'd say he was definitely interested.
Moral of the story, be careful with this Pisces dude and cut him off if you want to. I don't think this dude is meant for you.
Posted by pooface222
And that has been my attitude towards him these 7yrs.
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
I'm Pisces. I hate to say it but I believe your Pisces boy is playing you. 7 years? He would already be by your side if he wants. I think I'm very unselfish in relationships, but there are times I can be very stubborn. I'm always willing to compromise.
You might have to fight to get my attention, but once you have it you don't have to fight to keep it. I hope this helps.
Posted by Undine
Ask him to come with a detailed plan (or two) for your common future. To pitch them to you, so you could reject or approve them.
Where are the two of you going to live, how will your home be financed, who will be doing what chores, and when will this happen. Details and deadlines, ready for negotiation.
Tell him (and yourself!) that once the plan/ the deadline is broken, the relationship is broken for good, there is no going back. Tell him you are fed up, you want a responsible man, not a teenager. Sweet but empty words over a coffee are not doing it anymore for you, you are over that silly phase.
An Aries Mars should like a challenge and taking charge. A Pisces with Aries Mars, I always make such plans, in fact I dream about them on a daily basis, if my relationship seems serious and steady.
Ask him not to contact you again, until he shows you those plans. Shit, or get off the pot should become the motto of your relationship from now. The dabbling in the dark is over.
Also, think carefully about wanting to set home with him. What are his core values? What exactly made him cheat (no, itās not you, it could have been anyone).
Cool!
I Love what you wrote! I probably should have done that but I gave him a plan that I thought of instead.
Was that wrong?
Weirdly not long after I wrote my long post, he called me. And I actually managed to get through to him. Not as much as I would have liked but I got a fair amount across to him in the 15mins I had.
I managed to explain that I was not ready to leave my husband and he was nit ready to leave his partner and how we should have just stayed in our rships and fix whatever we need to before leaving to be with each other.
Who knows? Maybe me and him would not have got together after all.
Anyway he managed to tell me he wants to see me and I told him Likewise.
So hopefully we will meet tomorrow.
I know its been 7 years etc but I do feel very sad and slightly sick in my stomach - my anxiety - that we have not managed to get together properly.
Did you say that You are Pisces with Aries Mars?
Posted by UndinePosted by pooface222
And that has been my attitude towards him these 7yrs.
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
Hell no. Chasing a Pisces will make him swim towards the Marianas deep! Just give a hint, let him bite and take it over from there. No effort required from his side means heās not going to value what heās got and stay committed, loyal. Why do you think he isnāt loyal to the Gem?click to expand
Gem? You mean Gemini?
His partner is a Sagittarius x
Posted by MtnboyPosted by pooface222
And that has been my attitude towards him these 7yrs.
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
I'm Pisces. I hate to say it but I believe your Pisces boy is playing you. 7 years? He would already be by your side if he wants. I think I'm very unselfish in relationships, but there are times I can be very stubborn. I'm always willing to compromise.
You might have to fight to get my attention, but once you have it you don't have to fight to keep it. I hope this helps.click to expand
Thank you x
Tell me more about fighting to get your attention. Because this guy wanted me to give up EVERYTHING for him!
If you were unhappy in your rship and you fell in love with another woman, would she have to FIGHT to push you to leave her?
Posted by pooface222
I need to ask..
TWO Things.
1) Is it the normal done thing with Pisces men, to want a woman so much, that when he gets the chance to be with her...disappears?!?
Eg he's scared. Because now she's showing interest, he's scared to death and doesn't know what to do?
I've read lots of here about the Classic Pisces disappearing act in relationships.
I'm asking because this behaviour just confuses the hell out of me!
It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
But..
Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
Then I hold back. To stop him disappearing again. He feels hurt I'm not showing my feelings for him. Soooo..I show my feelings and POOF he's gone again!
Now..
2) Is it normal for Pisces men to be Stubborn and Selfish in a relationship.?
Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And of they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.
Yes, specifically with Pisces or any person that is insecure about intimate relationships... It can be scary for someone who is too scared to reveal themselves
...
As for this guy, let him go, be gentle, and patient IF you really want it!
But you might be too mature for him to be patient. Idk your personality though, your choice...
Posted by pooface222Posted by MtnboyPosted by pooface222
And that has been my attitude towards him these 7yrs.
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
I'm Pisces. I hate to say it but I believe your Pisces boy is playing you. 7 years? He would already be by your side if he wants. I think I'm very unselfish in relationships, but there are times I can be very stubborn. I'm always willing to compromise.
You might have to fight to get my attention, but once you have it you don't have to fight to keep it. I hope this helps.
Thank you x
Tell me more about fighting to get your attention. Because this guy wanted me to give up EVERYTHING for him!
If you were unhappy in your rship and you fell in love with another woman, would she have to FIGHT to push you to leave her?click to expand
No, I would be with her right now, physically anyways while I'm not day dreaming lol. And I'd be gone if I wasn't happy.
Not all Pisces are alike obviously, I'll try to put out a few senerios that I've seen that I think are common among men and women.
#1. This is a big one. she's his meal ticket and takes care of him, pretty self explanatory I think. Hard to budge anyone from here unless it's really bad overall.
2. Abusive relationship, some are hard to get out of.
3. He's playing you, you are his side girl. Good possibility. Just because I won't do this doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.
4. Heck I dunno
Maybe a combination of more than 1?
Fighting to get my attention? The beautiful young lady I'm dating now worked to get my attention, she worked hard for it too. Took her a few months, but once my dumb ass figured out she was flirting with me things changed pretty fast. Now half the time Im chasing after her.
Companionship costs both parties, he's not paying up.
Posted by MtnboyPosted by pooface222Posted by MtnboyPosted by pooface222
And that has been my attitude towards him these 7yrs.
IF YOU WANT ME, BE WITH ME.
Maybe that was a 7yr wrong move with a Pisces man?
Can a PISCES MAN tell me openly and honestly..
Do you want and need a woman to fight for you?
I'm Pisces. I hate to say it but I believe your Pisces boy is playing you. 7 years? He would already be by your side if he wants. I think I'm very unselfish in relationships, but there are times I can be very stubborn. I'm always willing to compromise.
You might have to fight to get my attention, but once you have it you don't have to fight to keep it. I hope this helps.
Thank you x
Tell me more about fighting to get your attention. Because this guy wanted me to give up EVERYTHING for him!
If you were unhappy in your rship and you fell in love with another woman, would she have to FIGHT to push you to leave her?
No, I would be with her right now, physically anyways while I'm not day dreaming lol. And I'd be gone if I wasn't happy.
Not all Pisces are alike obviously, I'll try to put out a few senerios that I've seen that I think are common among men and women.
#1. This is a big one. she's his meal ticket and takes care of him, pretty self explanatory I think. Hard to budge anyone from here unless it's really bad overall.
2. Abusive relationship, some are hard to get out of.
3. He's playing you, you are his side girl. Good possibility. Just because I won't do this doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.
4. Heck I dunno
Maybe a combination of more than 1?
Fighting to get my attention? The beautiful young lady I'm dating now worked to get my attention, she worked hard for it too. Took her a few months, but once my dumb ass figured out she was flirting with me things changed pretty fast. Now half the time Im chasing after her.
Companionship costs both parties, he's not paying up.click to expand
Hi ya x
I'm so glad you said that last part about her working hard for it.
I literally said to him 5 YEARS ago "Lets move in together. We can rent a flat."
Now by renting I was giving both of us the chance to leave each other - with Zero financial ties - if it doesnt work out with each other.
We could literally end it and both find elsewhere to live.
He refused to rent with me because he wanted to save his money for himself in order to buy a house for himself in the future.
In other words he refused to make the small sacrifice of paying rent- and I mean SHARED rent etc with me - Yet I had to throw away my marriage and my family, get my own house for him to move into and continue keeping his money for himself under my roof!
To this day though, I have never said this to his face! I've had so much depression and anxiety and divorce and moving house that I'm n3eding to write stuff down to remind myself to tell him.
I love him deeply. But i just find him so very selfish!
Posted by ScorpAriePosted by pooface222
I need to ask..
TWO Things.
1) Is it the normal done thing with Pisces men, to want a woman so much, that when he gets the chance to be with her...disappears?!?
Eg he's scared. Because now she's showing interest, he's scared to death and doesn't know what to do?
I've read lots of here about the Classic Pisces disappearing act in relationships.
I'm asking because this behaviour just confuses the hell out of me!
It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
But..
Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
Then I hold back. To stop him disappearing again. He feels hurt I'm not showing my feelings for him. Soooo..I show my feelings and POOF he's gone again!
Now..
2) Is it normal for Pisces men to be Stubborn and Selfish in a relationship.?
Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And of they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.
Yes, specifically with Pisces or any person that is insecure about intimate relationships... It can be scary for someone who is too scared to reveal themselves
...
As for this guy, let him go, be gentle, and patient IF you really want it!
But you might be too mature for him to be patient. Idk your personality though, your choice...click to expand
I REALLY DO want it /him!
Hence I'm still hanging on after 7 sodding years! Lol!
Well in terms of maturity lets start with age. Even though age is no measure of maturity.
He is 51.
I am 44.
Personality & Maturity I am a Capricorn with Pisces Venus.
This means I have a great deal of self-control in terms of hiding my NEED to love him. I quote literally Hide my deeper feelings.
I very controlled emotionally. And thoughtful.
I think before I act.
As a Pisces Venus this means Iamveryvery sensitive and emotional.
But i think my Capricorn keeps that Pisces emotion hidden.
And its frustrating as F**K !
Just a post about "Best Zodiac Matches" on here.
The poster wrote this. .
'Capricorn female: Pisces male
- Knows how to relax around her
- Can bring out her softer side'
Exactly!
This is one of many reasons why I love being with him!
The poster wrote this. .
'Capricorn female: Pisces male
- Knows how to relax around her
- Can bring out her softer side'
Exactly!
This is one of many reasons why I love being with him!
I've dated a few caps, we get along well.
Honestly though, I believe that 7 years is along time and if he was going to be with you, he would be there already. I'm not trying to be hurtful, just honest. I would go find someone that is actually going to be there and go do things with you, why waste time? We aren't getting any younger! Get out and enjoy your life!!
Honestly though, I believe that 7 years is along time and if he was going to be with you, he would be there already. I'm not trying to be hurtful, just honest. I would go find someone that is actually going to be there and go do things with you, why waste time? We aren't getting any younger! Get out and enjoy your life!!
So...
Quick update.
He cane over on Wed. Was lovely. We talked etc.
Sadly though it went wrong.
I asked him he could come over after his gym class and stay the night. He said Yes. I was going to take part in this class too, so we go home together after.
Thurs daytime comes and he calls me telling me he has to go and sort out the mess in the house he bought for his son to live in! His son lives over an hours drive away and is 21 and studying.
His son apparently doesn't empty bins or do laundry etc so the house gets in a mess.
I then felt rejected.
However come Thurs night, I didn't feel like going to this class, as all he would do is chat for 5mins then drive off afterwards leaving me feeling worse!
So i didn't attend the class.
The very next day he didnt turn up to my class (I'm an instructor). Surprise surprise!
This has happened before.
I didn't go to his class.
Soooo he didn't come to mine Friday morning!
He did ring me though and we talked.
He told me he changed his mind and stayed home instead!
Great! So. If i had gone to his class we could have gone back to mine together.!
So..we had a nice chat on the phone on friday morning. I asked if we could meet Saturday. He said I Hope so.
Saturday comes. I messaged him about meeting but he had overdue work to finish. Ok.
He finally calls me at 3pm.
I said "I thought you had work to do?"
He said "I do but wanted to say hi."
We chatted briefly about general unimportant stuff.
1m 43seconds later, the call cut off - he probably cut it off- and I never heard back from him about what happened with our phonecall.
šŖ
I texted "What happened? Is everything ok?"
He has cut off a call or 2 before but he normally texts, "really sorry...." and explains what happened.
Not this time.
I am really hurt now!
I was going to start afresh and call him today but seeing as he cut me off without an explanation yesterday (Saturday), I didn't feel like calling him!
I mean Thurs night was just a lack of communication.
But Saturday afternoon just Hurt!
WTF??
Seriously!!!
Quick update.
He cane over on Wed. Was lovely. We talked etc.
Sadly though it went wrong.
I asked him he could come over after his gym class and stay the night. He said Yes. I was going to take part in this class too, so we go home together after.
Thurs daytime comes and he calls me telling me he has to go and sort out the mess in the house he bought for his son to live in! His son lives over an hours drive away and is 21 and studying.
His son apparently doesn't empty bins or do laundry etc so the house gets in a mess.
I then felt rejected.
However come Thurs night, I didn't feel like going to this class, as all he would do is chat for 5mins then drive off afterwards leaving me feeling worse!
So i didn't attend the class.
The very next day he didnt turn up to my class (I'm an instructor). Surprise surprise!
This has happened before.
I didn't go to his class.
Soooo he didn't come to mine Friday morning!
He did ring me though and we talked.
He told me he changed his mind and stayed home instead!
Great! So. If i had gone to his class we could have gone back to mine together.!
So..we had a nice chat on the phone on friday morning. I asked if we could meet Saturday. He said I Hope so.
Saturday comes. I messaged him about meeting but he had overdue work to finish. Ok.
He finally calls me at 3pm.
I said "I thought you had work to do?"
He said "I do but wanted to say hi."
We chatted briefly about general unimportant stuff.
1m 43seconds later, the call cut off - he probably cut it off- and I never heard back from him about what happened with our phonecall.
šŖ
I texted "What happened? Is everything ok?"
He has cut off a call or 2 before but he normally texts, "really sorry...." and explains what happened.
Not this time.
I am really hurt now!
I was going to start afresh and call him today but seeing as he cut me off without an explanation yesterday (Saturday), I didn't feel like calling him!
I mean Thurs night was just a lack of communication.
But Saturday afternoon just Hurt!
WTF??
Seriously!!!
*I meant to say that on Wed I asked him if he could come and stay over after his class Thurs night.
It's hard to say without knowing more, but generally speaking, if someone actually wants someone or something, they make it happen. IMO, maybe stop listening to their words and start watching their actions.
Posted by pooface222
I need to ask..
TWO Things.
1) Is it the normal done thing with Pisces men, to want a woman so much, that when he gets the chance to be with her...disappears?!?
Eg he's scared. Because now she's showing interest, he's scared to death and doesn't know what to do?
I've read lots of here about the Classic Pisces disappearing act in relationships.
I'm asking because this behaviour just confuses the hell out of me!
It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
But..
Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
Then I hold back. To stop him disappearing again. He feels hurt I'm not showing my feelings for him. Soooo..I show my feelings and POOF he's gone again!
Now..
2) Is it normal for Pisces men to be Stubborn and Selfish in a relationship.?
Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And of they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.
OMG, normal or not normal ^^^this is too much work. There are 11 other flavours on the zodiac menu, choose one. However, if your heart is set on a Fish (because they are lovely folk after all), surely you can find one that is more mature, has a better handle on his emotions and is clear about what he wants and how to get it.
Posted by pooface222
I need to ask..
TWO Things.
1) Is it the normal done thing with Pisces men, to want a woman so much, that when he gets the chance to be with her...disappears?!?
Eg he's scared. Because now she's showing interest, he's scared to death and doesn't know what to do?
I've read lots of here about the Classic Pisces disappearing act in relationships.
I'm asking because this behaviour just confuses the hell out of me!
It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
But..
Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
Then I hold back. To stop him disappearing again. He feels hurt I'm not showing my feelings for him. Soooo..I show my feelings and POOF he's gone again!
Now..
2) Is it normal for Pisces men to be Stubborn and Selfish in a relationship.?
Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And if they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.
This is an immature Pisces. I can say that I have also displayed similar behaviour in the past. It's a slippery fish. You want to chase it yet you don't want to scare it. You have to find a balance between the two. Aristotle called it the Golden Mean. When you have that Pisces it will be blissful heaven on earth. So take your time. Be patient with your Fish.
I have over 75% water placements on my chart and most of them are Pisces.
Posted by chris19Posted by pooface222
I need to ask..
TWO Things.
1) Is it the normal done thing with Pisces men, to want a woman so much, that when he gets the chance to be with her...disappears?!?
Eg he's scared. Because now she's showing interest, he's scared to death and doesn't know what to do?
I've read lots of here about the Classic Pisces disappearing act in relationships.
I'm asking because this behaviour just confuses the hell out of me!
It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
But..
Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
Then I hold back. To stop him disappearing again. He feels hurt I'm not showing my feelings for him. Soooo..I show my feelings and POOF he's gone again!
Now..
2) Is it normal for Pisces men to be Stubborn and Selfish in a relationship.?
Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And if they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.
This is an immature Pisces. I can say that I have also displayed similar behaviour in the past. It's a slippery fish. You want to chase it yet you don't want to scare it. You have to find a balance between the two. Aristotle called it the Golden Mean. When you have that Pisces it will be blissful heaven on earth. So take your time. Be patient with your Fish.
I have over 75% water placements on my chart and most of them are Pisces.click to expand
You got it!
Exactly!
"You want to chase it yet you don't want to scare it. You have to find a balance between the two."
This is what I've been doing for a while! And its not easy!
Its like I have to Chase him, then Back Off. Chase him, then Back Off. Over and Over.
Because chasing makes HIM back off!
And backing off him, makes him think I don't like him/want him so he goes quiet on me.
So I have to find that balance between Chasing and Backing off.
For example I have noticed that offering him time with me, in one breath, then taking it away with the next breath, seems to work with him.
Because once I say "you don't have to, its up to you. I'd love to see you, but I guess you can't" he starts to find a way to spend time with me rather than getting lost in his normal Pisces way.
Its about grounding him.
You'll always get a clusterfuck with Pisces men. Do you think you're so wildly attracted to that since you also subconsciously see yourself as a clusterfuck? These are the questions you should be pondering.
Posted by SassyKiwi
You'll always get a clusterfuck with Pisces men. Do you think you're so wildly attracted to that since you also subconsciously see yourself as a clusterfuck? These are the questions you should be pondering.
No idea.
I went to through a TONNE of hell with my husband, hence why I fell in love with the soft sensitive Pisces.
My husband is an Aries and was controlling AF, as well as being cold and hard and cruel. Hence the Pisces happened in contrast to my husband.
So by the time the Pisces walked into my life, I was a clusterfuck.
So many things had happened at once and I was struggling to process it all.
So No. I don't see myself as a clusterfuck in general. But I was a clusterfuck by the times Pisces guy arrived.
Interestingly, HE was a clusterfuck at the time too and unhappy in HIS relationship. Same as me.
So we actually mirrored each other.
And we were a support for each other.
i was in a similar place as you with a virgo (many moons ago). He wants you but he will never commit to you. He's manipulative as hell. It has nothing to do with him being pisces (im seeing a pisces sun+moon+merc) rn and this man has been nothing if not sweet and consistent. Even if him and i don't make it to the relationship stage, id wish him well with all the love in my heart. I hope we commit tho lol
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It makes me feel rejected. It makes me feel he never wanted me in the first place.
Therefore I stop bothering with him.
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Once I stop bothering with him, that's when he reappears and comes chasing.
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Now..
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Eg Only wanting the relationship on Their terms. And of they don't get it their way, they get upset and feel like their potential long-term partner doesn't want them or love them.