Burning irony (Page 2)

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by ramfishtwins

...why is it o.k. to burn a Qur'an in the name of free speech/rights, etc, but it's not a person's right to build a mosque anywhere they please

1. "rights" were never the dispute.

2. you make it sound like burning came first, when it was the building that came first.



I understand your question, however, you are attempting to slant perception by imposing suggestions in your favor ... just like the media people bitch about.

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I'm saying that "rights" got into the dispute. I kept hearing this pastor had the "right" to burn the book. Yes he did. Should he, probably not? Just like building of the mosque is a "right". Should it be done? Probably not. I'm not trying to slant anything. I'm trying to bring up the fact of it being a double standard on the side of the right.

Posted by ramfishtwins

Posted by lildol
I didn't read the whole thread... so, if any of this was said, I apologize for the duplication!

Who gives a flying rats ass if someone burns a book... I was raised Christian, but I could care less if someone decides to gather up all the bibles they can find and burn them. The book does not make the religion, it's the believe system that has been passed down for generations and how people internalize those teachings and act within those constructs. The book serves as a reference regardless as to the religious affiliation. As for the book, more will be printed.

Also, someone mentioned something about people/terrorists/whomever burning American flags. Ok, well, that is the proper way to dispose of them... so, we can throw it back in their faces, if they're getting rid of American flags, they did it the proper, and respectful manner. I really could care less about their intent - throwing them in the dumpster would have been disgraceful by American standards.

In any case, my point being, people make too big of a deal about these insignificant, trivial happenings. We should all care less about what someone does to some object regardless of what it is supposed to represent; burn my bible, burn my flag, big fricken deal, it does not effect me as a person nor my civil liberties (if we really, truly have any... or, is it all a farce?)

I see what you are saying, but I think you may be in the minority regarding being offended if the bible was burned. I guess it comes down to common decency and respect for other religions. It's not insignificant if our troops are in more harms way because it's done.

And yes, it's a farce! 🙂

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And, I may be in the minority, but, from a pragmatic standpoint, it's the position everyone should take really. I see no harm, I see no reason for people getting offended. I do understand principles vary based on culture, but, I personally can't wrap my head around why people take such a stance on something that is easily replaced and not effecting their person.

And, yes, it is a farce, the sad thing is people believe that they are actually free... the bigger joke, is that people believe the gvmt is forthright, honest and are there for the them!!

Posted by ramfishtwins

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by ramfishtwins

...why is it o.k. to burn a Qur'an in the name of free speech/rights, etc, but it's not a person's right to build a mosque anywhere they please

1. "rights" were never the dispute.

2. you make it sound like burning came first, when it was the building that came first.



I understand your question, however, you are attempting to slant perception by imposing suggestions in your favor ... just like the media people bitch about.

I'm saying that "rights" got into the dispute. I kept hearing this pastor had the "right" to burn the book. Yes he did. Should he, probably not? Just like building of the mosque is a "right". Should it be done? Probably not. I'm not trying to slant anything. I'm trying to bring up the fact of it being a double standard on the side of the right.

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Don't confuse a person talking about a dispute of rights .. and an actual dispute of rights actually being an issue.

what you are referring to is people bitching, and using the word "rights" to make their argument ..... when in reality, "rights" were never in dispute.

Alright, so you weren't slanting intentionallly ..... but, you did pick up on the manipulation and then repeat it ... which pretty much every person who believes what the media tells them does.

Posted by ramfishtwins

I'm saying that "rights" got into the dispute. I kept hearing this pastor had the "right" to burn the book.

No, "rights" never got into the dispute ... I realize this is what you said, but, it never happened.

What has happened is your second sentence ... you have heard people saying it, and then you come in here to spread it further, as if it's fact.

Again, "rights" have never been the dispute .... people always have their right to exercise their rights. The only time that is taken away is if imprisoned, killed, tied and gagged, etc. ...... what is also a "right" is freedom of speech and boy, people sure do speak, even when they are spreading what the media has intended on them spreading .. don't they?

the remix is great LOL

+1 for the LovelyScorp and her post 🙂