LadyNeptune
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No lies there.
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No lies there.
Are you serious CC? Why is us healthcare a fail?? I don’t even have the time to lay it out for you rn 😅
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeBut it doesn’t seem right to do that work and not be able to make real money until you’ve been working for 5-6 years. Plus having to pay off 100s of 1000s in debt. Doctors can’t get ahead either. At least not till their 40s+
Let me explain you don't have to make 300k a year to afford a house in Houston. Everyone has equal access.
That to me is equality
The west coast is ridiculous
And that's why it's burning
God hates greedy ppl
Posted by SoulSounds counterintuitive tbh. That a person on welfare would be eligible for such costly procedures for free in a country that championed commercialization of the medical proffession and which is notorious for its high cost practices.Posted by Mr_PinchyIt's the same here is what I'm saying.Posted by SoulYoure comparing 10 hour high risk surgery with blood tests? I dont get it? Im sure i can get my blood tested immediately too.Posted by Mr_PinchyI slept with a risky chick once and had some weird symptoms some time after. To make a long story short I though I had an std, called the doctor, and they got me in for blood tests that day. Luckily they came back negative.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
That's how American doctors work. They will literally see you the day you think you have a problem.
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Idk...just sounds off to me. I might be wrong tho.
Posted by LadyNeptuneImo trades are the best way to go. Along with other self taught talents. Expirence and on the job talent is always 10 times better then a diploma. High school never teaches the youth that though. So you end up with hundreds of thousands of people who don't know what to do with their lives, and end up it tuition debts. Then they become nothing and the chains of the system contunies.Posted by SoulNo lies there.Posted by LadyNeptuneI don't disagree with that at all. Collage is the biggest scam known to man imo.Posted by SoulPosted by LadyNeptuneHelp me see it then. What is the highest paid profession in your neck of the woods?Posted by SoulIt’s not a brag. It’s reality.Posted by LadyNeptuneMaybe it is. Feel free to brag all you want. Now that I've been thinking i see the bigger picture and that means nothing to me.Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
Maybe in your town the highest paid profeission is a doctor. But that’s not the case in my town. So speaking of the bigger picture...open your eyes and see it.
It’s hollyweird so you have actors, directors, studio heads, etc etc.
But outside of the entertainment world...
Attorneys
Lawyers
Engineers (nuclear, aerospace, etc. etc.)
Restraunteers
Architect
Marketing managers, Financial managers
Developers (I work with these guys who develop 6-10 properties a year and net 600k and upwards profit per development)
Advertising
General Contractors
I could go on and on....probably a lot I’m leaving out. And many of these industries don’t require a decade of school and 250k in student fees.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeTrump. When in doubt it’s trumpPosted by LadyNeptuneYes i am
Are you serious CC? Why is us healthcare a fail?? I don’t even have the time to lay it out for you rn 😅
I don't know who to blame
Insurance companies. Feds. Costs
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Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
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that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
Posted by Mr_PinchyMexicin cost nothing to produce. It's basic herbalism. They system takes advantage of that and flurishes from it. Everyone and everything has the right to live equally imo. Poor people get free healthcare in America. The rich buy into expensive healthcare. In the end all the businesses wants a positive reputation.Posted by SoulSounds counterintuitive tbh. That a person on welfare would be eligible for such costly procedures for free in a country that championed commercialization of the medical proffession and which is notorious for its high cost practices.Posted by Mr_PinchyIt's the same here is what I'm saying.Posted by SoulYoure comparing 10 hour high risk surgery with blood tests? I dont get it? Im sure i can get my blood tested immediately too.Posted by Mr_PinchyI slept with a risky chick once and had some weird symptoms some time after. To make a long story short I though I had an std, called the doctor, and they got me in for blood tests that day. Luckily they came back negative.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
That's how American doctors work. They will literally see you the day you think you have a problem.
Idk...just sounds off to me. I might be wrong tho.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI kinda disagree with need to be paid less. I know one or two doctors, surgeons and the pressures are epic. No room for error.Posted by LadyNeptuneDoctors shouldn't have loans periodPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeBut it doesn’t seem right to do that work and not be able to make real money until you’ve been working for 5-6 years. Plus having to pay off 100s of 1000s in debt. Doctors can’t get ahead either. At least not till their 40s+
Let me explain you don't have to make 300k a year to afford a house in Houston. Everyone has equal access.
That to me is equality
The west coast is ridiculous
And that's why it's burning
God hates greedy ppl
And should get paid less
There souls be a cap
Wtf does someone Need to make 400k forclick to expand
Stuff like that needs to be stimulated with lots of Benjamin Franklins else there would be noone to do it.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeNo one should have student debt. But that’s not our reality.Posted by LadyNeptuneDoctors shouldn't have loans periodPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeBut it doesn’t seem right to do that work and not be able to make real money until you’ve been working for 5-6 years. Plus having to pay off 100s of 1000s in debt. Doctors can’t get ahead either. At least not till their 40s+
Let me explain you don't have to make 300k a year to afford a house in Houston. Everyone has equal access.
That to me is equality
The west coast is ridiculous
And that's why it's burning
God hates greedy ppl
And should get paid less
There should be a cap
Wtf does someone Need to make 400k for
Or they work for public for free automatically for a certain period of yearsclick to expand
Affordable health care and education sounds ideal. 🎶Oh Canada🎶🎶
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeethey deserve every penny regardless.Posted by AdreamuponwakingThey deserve every penny especially if they're in traumaPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeI know two as a matter of fact.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAgreed but no nurse practitioner is making that kind of money at 25Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeWhen you are a full fledged doctor you can make at least 150 kPosted by AdreamuponwakingBeing a doctor is a losing endeavor these days but 80kPosted by SoulLOL you didn't debunk anything.Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Let alone the World Health Organization's ranking system.
and that who paragraph you wrote is a mix of conjecture and inferences based on opinion.
How many doctors do you know personally?
I have a close family friend who I consider to be an uncle who is a Doctor.
I've also worked with doctors.
I have friend who are now doctors.
You don't actually make that much money ( there are nurses for example that can make just as much with half of the schooling) unless you specialize.
and even those who specialize don't make any real money until at least 6-8+ years after completing medical school.
All residents regardless of specialty make about 60k+ a year for at least 2-3 years after completing medical school.
It could go up to almost 80k after 5 or 6 years for a chief resident in some super competitive specialty.
But that isn't really that much at all. I have friends that only have Bachelors degrees who make 80k or more.
Also most people go into at least 100-200k in debt to complete medical school
Lol who are you kidding
Doctors make 150k at minimum
but that doesn't happen directly after passing multiple boards and graduating from medical school.
To actually practice medicine you have to be matched to and complete what is called a residency program at a hospital which can be anywhere from 3-5 years long.
Sometimes you have to do a fellowship after that and then even additional training ( e.g- some specialties that involve surgery which are the most lucrative ).
On the other hand you can get your Bachelors in Nursing and then do two additional years of grad school and become a Nurse practitioner and with only a little over time make around 140k at 24 or 25.
The primary care doctor will be closer to 30 before they see that kind of money and most likely will also be in more debt.
Nurse Anesthetist make more than most primary care doctors also
though malpractice insurance rates are higher for them.
Believe me
There's ppl who put in years that don't get those jobs
It's not that simple
The difference though is they went to a highly Competitive nursing program which places students in Hospitals that will definitely hire them. 95% of people in the particular nursing program have offers their junior year of undergrad. Grad students often have a job well before their conclusion of their final year.
I also know of a many programs in the same state that matriculate a large amount of students who aren't able to find work with a BSN.
It depends were you go.
Out of three women I know who are nurses two of them already own a house in LA and they are not even 30 yet.
The only one who doesn't just has a Bachelors in nursing and is only 22 years old.lol
One has a Masters. The other has her PhD.click to expand
nursing can be really emotionally taxing and
overtime is gruesome.
Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
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I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
Posted by Mr_Pinchyok and you are saying that the Italians you know think that their health care system is worse than Slovenia's health care system ?Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
click to expand
and what about the french? do you have french friends that are jealous of the healthcare you can get in slovenia compared to their native country?
and you were right I misspoke about the mortality rate. I always get that mixed up.
I can admit when I'm wrong and I can also easily admit I don't know anything really about Slovenia so yeah i googled that ish and came up with a theory.
I honestly do not know why slovenia is ranked lower so I said probably.... *shrugs*
the list I cited earlier like i said is not my opinion.
you are mainly trying to contest an organization that houses collective authority figures whose work is based on public health research.
it's not a list I compiled or was compiled by some random guy at some random university or institution lol
also the numbers i've given in relation to doctor's salaries or population size are also all facts.
i've worked in healthcare here in the U.S too so I'm afraid counter to your opinion i'm not talking out of my ass.
Poor people die everyday here in the U.S because of the lack of access to care.
These poor people also live in environments in which illness is more likely to occur because of environmental conditions like polluted groundwater or air.
You never answered my question about visiting rural American areas like Native American reservations ,
or destitute urban areas like Detroit , or Flint Michigan ?
Can you admit that like how I am ignorant about Slovenia you are just as ignorant about the healthcare in the U.S?
I bet you can't.
Posted by AdreamuponwakingBeesh, listen to me. Stop spinning tales, putting words in my mouth and jumping from one thread line to another in order to try to lend credence to the arguments youve been told are wrong.Posted by Mr_Pinchyok and you are saying that the Italians you know think that their health care system is worse than Slovenia's health care system ?Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
and what about the french? do you have french friends that are jealous of the healthcare you can get in slovenia compared to their native country?
and you were right I misspoke about the mortality rate. I always get that mixed up.
I can admit when I'm wrong and I can also easily admit I don't know anything really about Slovenia so yeah i googled that ish and came up with a theory.
I honestly do not know why slovenia is ranked lower so I said probably.... *shrugs*
the list I cited earlier like i said is not my opinion.
you are mainly trying to contest an organization that houses collective authority figures whose work is based on public health research.
it's not a list I compiled or was compiled by some random guy at some random university or institution lol
also the numbers i've given in relation to doctor's salaries or population size are also all facts.
i've worked in healthcare here in the U.S too so I'm afraid counter to your opinion i'm not talking out of my ass.
Poor people die everyday here in the U.S because of the lack of access to care.
These poor people also live in environments in which illness is more likely to occur because of environmental conditions like polluted groundwater or air.
You never answered my question about visiting rural American areas like Native American reservations ,
or destitute urban areas like Detroit , or Flint Michigan ?
Can you admit that like how I am ignorant about Slovenia you are just as ignorant about the healthcare in the U.S?
I bet you can't.
click to expand
I stopped reading this reply after the first sentence which you constructed out of the aether emanating from your dung hole ( i never said nothing like that). Learn to read. Thank you.
Posted by Mr_Pinchyno you didn't so that's why i asked you.Posted by Adreamuponwakingi never said nothing like thatPosted by Mr_Pinchyok and you are saying that the Italians you know think that their health care system is worse than Slovenia's health care system ?Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
and what about the french? do you have french friends that are jealous of the healthcare you can get in slovenia compared to their native country?
and you were right I misspoke about the mortality rate. I always get that mixed up.
I can admit when I'm wrong and I can also easily admit I don't know anything really about Slovenia so yeah i googled that ish and came up with a theory.
I honestly do not know why slovenia is ranked lower so I said probably.... *shrugs*
the list I cited earlier like i said is not my opinion.
you are mainly trying to contest an organization that houses collective authority figures whose work is based on public health research.
it's not a list I compiled or was compiled by some random guy at some random university or institution lol
also the numbers i've given in relation to doctor's salaries or population size are also all facts.
i've worked in healthcare here in the U.S too so I'm afraid counter to your opinion i'm not talking out of my ass.
Poor people die everyday here in the U.S because of the lack of access to care.
These poor people also live in environments in which illness is more likely to occur because of environmental conditions like polluted groundwater or air.
You never answered my question about visiting rural American areas like Native American reservations ,
or destitute urban areas like Detroit , or Flint Michigan ?
Can you admit that like how I am ignorant about Slovenia you are just as ignorant about the healthcare in the U.S?
I bet you can't.
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if you had Italian or French friends that said Slovenia healthcare is better then you would have a valid counter point
but your Italian friends didn't so i don't get what your point was in bringing up the fact that you also have Italian friends?
I brought up my Italian friends who have commented on the state of healthcare in Italy and have compared it to the U.S.
They have more credibility than you.
I think that whatever even your Italian friends think about healthcare in Italy as citizens is more credible than your opinion.
Terms like Beesh and dung hole can be construed as ad hominem btw.
Have you noticed Mr. Pinchy i've never once insulted you or called you by some demeaning name in our little debates?
it's not because I'm a nice person.
personal attacks never add weight to an argument.
Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO. Youre just stupid. Clinging to this Italian straw while we werent even talking of Italy, trying to salvage whatever is left of what you think you display as knowledge. Now you even brought in French. In your next post will you have French friends who have more credibility than me? 😂😂😂Posted by Mr_Pinchyno you didn't so that's why i asked you.Posted by Adreamuponwakingi never said nothing like thatPosted by Mr_Pinchyok and you are saying that the Italians you know think that their health care system is worse than Slovenia's health care system ?Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
and what about the french? do you have french friends that are jealous of the healthcare you can get in slovenia compared to their native country?
and you were right I misspoke about the mortality rate. I always get that mixed up.
I can admit when I'm wrong and I can also easily admit I don't know anything really about Slovenia so yeah i googled that ish and came up with a theory.
I honestly do not know why slovenia is ranked lower so I said probably.... *shrugs*
the list I cited earlier like i said is not my opinion.
you are mainly trying to contest an organization that houses collective authority figures whose work is based on public health research.
it's not a list I compiled or was compiled by some random guy at some random university or institution lol
also the numbers i've given in relation to doctor's salaries or population size are also all facts.
i've worked in healthcare here in the U.S too so I'm afraid counter to your opinion i'm not talking out of my ass.
Poor people die everyday here in the U.S because of the lack of access to care.
These poor people also live in environments in which illness is more likely to occur because of environmental conditions like polluted groundwater or air.
You never answered my question about visiting rural American areas like Native American reservations ,
or destitute urban areas like Detroit , or Flint Michigan ?
Can you admit that like how I am ignorant about Slovenia you are just as ignorant about the healthcare in the U.S?
I bet you can't.
if you had Italian or French friends that said Slovenia healthcare is better than you would have a valid counter point
but t your Italian friends didn't so i don't get what your point was in breaking up the fact that you also have Italian friends?
I brought up my Italian friends who have commented on the state of healthcare in Italy and have compared it to the U.S.
They have more credibility than you.
I think that whatever even your Italian friends think about healthcare in their Italy as citizens is more credible than your opinion
Terms like Beesh and ad hominem can be construed as ad hominem btw.
have you noticed Mr. Pinchy i've never once insulted you or called you by some demeaning name in our little debates?
it's not because I'm a nice person.
personal attacks never add weight to an argument.click to expand
Idgaf if you think im a ad hominem barbarian.
I think youre mildly disgusting, talking out of your ass like you do and if you ever make it to neurosurgeon status i hope for your patients that you will display a better grasp of what plagues them than you displayed with understanding of the terms low/high mortality rate.
Posted by Mr_Pinchyyou always say you are donePosted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO. Youre just stupid. Clinging to this Italian straw while we werent even talking of Italy, trying to salvage whatever is left of what you think you display as knowledge. Now you even brought in French. In your next post will you have French friends who have more credibility than me? 😂😂😂Posted by Mr_Pinchyno you didn't so that's why i asked you.Posted by Adreamuponwakingi never said nothing like thatPosted by Mr_Pinchyok and you are saying that the Italians you know think that their health care system is worse than Slovenia's health care system ?Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
and what about the french? do you have french friends that are jealous of the healthcare you can get in slovenia compared to their native country?
and you were right I misspoke about the mortality rate. I always get that mixed up.
I can admit when I'm wrong and I can also easily admit I don't know anything really about Slovenia so yeah i googled that ish and came up with a theory.
I honestly do not know why slovenia is ranked lower so I said probably.... *shrugs*
the list I cited earlier like i said is not my opinion.
you are mainly trying to contest an organization that houses collective authority figures whose work is based on public health research.
it's not a list I compiled or was compiled by some random guy at some random university or institution lol
also the numbers i've given in relation to doctor's salaries or population size are also all facts.
i've worked in healthcare here in the U.S too so I'm afraid counter to your opinion i'm not talking out of my ass.
Poor people die everyday here in the U.S because of the lack of access to care.
These poor people also live in environments in which illness is more likely to occur because of environmental conditions like polluted groundwater or air.
You never answered my question about visiting rural American areas like Native American reservations ,
or destitute urban areas like Detroit , or Flint Michigan ?
Can you admit that like how I am ignorant about Slovenia you are just as ignorant about the healthcare in the U.S?
I bet you can't.
if you had Italian or French friends that said Slovenia healthcare is better than you would have a valid counter point
but t your Italian friends didn't so i don't get what your point was in breaking up the fact that you also have Italian friends?
I brought up my Italian friends who have commented on the state of healthcare in Italy and have compared it to the U.S.
They have more credibility than you.
I think that whatever even your Italian friends think about healthcare in their Italy as citizens is more credible than your opinion
Terms like Beesh and ad hominem can be construed as ad hominem btw.
have you noticed Mr. Pinchy i've never once insulted you or called you by some demeaning name in our little debates?
it's not because I'm a nice person.
personal attacks never add weight to an argument.
Idgaf if you think im a ad hominem barbarian.
I think youre mildly disgusting, talking out of your ass like you do and if you ever make it to neurosurgeon status i hope for your patients that you will display a better grasp of what plagues them than you displayed with understanding of the terms low/high mortality rate.
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but never are
Posted by Mr_Pinchyi literally just now stopped reading what you posted.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO. Youre just stupid. Clinging to this Italian straw while we werent even talking of Italy, trying to salvage whatever is left of what you think you display as knowledge. Now you even brought in French. In your next post will you have French friends who have more credibility than me? 😂😂😂Posted by Mr_Pinchyno you didn't so that's why i asked you.Posted by Adreamuponwakingi never said nothing like thatPosted by Mr_Pinchyok and you are saying that the Italians you know think that their health care system is worse than Slovenia's health care system ?Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
and what about the french? do you have french friends that are jealous of the healthcare you can get in slovenia compared to their native country?
and you were right I misspoke about the mortality rate. I always get that mixed up.
I can admit when I'm wrong and I can also easily admit I don't know anything really about Slovenia so yeah i googled that ish and came up with a theory.
I honestly do not know why slovenia is ranked lower so I said probably.... *shrugs*
the list I cited earlier like i said is not my opinion.
you are mainly trying to contest an organization that houses collective authority figures whose work is based on public health research.
it's not a list I compiled or was compiled by some random guy at some random university or institution lol
also the numbers i've given in relation to doctor's salaries or population size are also all facts.
i've worked in healthcare here in the U.S too so I'm afraid counter to your opinion i'm not talking out of my ass.
Poor people die everyday here in the U.S because of the lack of access to care.
These poor people also live in environments in which illness is more likely to occur because of environmental conditions like polluted groundwater or air.
You never answered my question about visiting rural American areas like Native American reservations ,
or destitute urban areas like Detroit , or Flint Michigan ?
Can you admit that like how I am ignorant about Slovenia you are just as ignorant about the healthcare in the U.S?
I bet you can't.
if you had Italian or French friends that said Slovenia healthcare is better than you would have a valid counter point
but t your Italian friends didn't so i don't get what your point was in breaking up the fact that you also have Italian friends?
I brought up my Italian friends who have commented on the state of healthcare in Italy and have compared it to the U.S.
They have more credibility than you.
I think that whatever even your Italian friends think about healthcare in their Italy as citizens is more credible than your opinion
Terms like Beesh and ad hominem can be construed as ad hominem btw.
have you noticed Mr. Pinchy i've never once insulted you or called you by some demeaning name in our little debates?
it's not because I'm a nice person.
personal attacks never add weight to an argument.
Idgaf if you think im a ad hominem barbarian.
I think youre mildly disgusting, talking out of your ass like you do and if you ever make it to neurosurgeon status i hope for your patients that you will display a better grasp of what plagues them than you displayed with understanding of the terms low/high mortality rate.
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Over half of my replies highlight the fact that your responses aren't great counters because they are either based purely on opinion as a non health professional living in slovenia
or based on some sort of false comparison
or worse just pure ad hominem
Here's a link to logical fallacies for you to read Pinchy:
https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/659/03/
Please review it before the next time you want to engage with me in an internet discussion
Hvala vam
lol
Posted by AdreamuponwakingThere you go putting words in my mouth again. This is why im a barbarian to you. /shrugs
you always say you are done
but never are
Also because of your knack to try and steer the debate onto more familiar grounds where you think you know better. We started with Morocco and Canada and youve brought us to US, Italy and now youre trying to take a Tour de France too.
To top it off you base your claim on a WHO stat, because in your PC conditioned thought process it just doesnt compute that in a country where you can bribe the cops to tell you on which bazaar you can score the best hashish they couldnt fix the numbers a little and feed it to WHO for appearances sake. Authorities, governments dont lie, never did. 😂😂😂
You need a dose of real life and some common sense which was conditioned out of you. Youre mildly delusional and it wouldnt be so bad if you wouldnt act so condescending while getting caught on erroneous details or understanding of them (dont squirm with getting terms mixed up....high and low infant mortality rate really cant be mixed up in the context we talk about and if you do.....neuroscience might be too much of a stretch for you)
😘 (this is for "hvala vam")
Posted by Mr_PinchyIronic 😂Posted by AdreamuponwakingBeesh, listen to me. Stop spinning tales, putting words in my mouth and jumping from one thread line to another in order to try to lend credence to the arguments youve been told are wrong.Posted by Mr_Pinchyok and you are saying that the Italians you know think that their health care system is worse than Slovenia's health care system ?Posted by AdreamuponwakingWhy are you still talking lol?Posted by Mr_Pinchyliving next to country does not give you better access to info comparedto those who actually live in the countryPosted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
that's a more accurate comparison.
I have Italian not Italian American friends who go to school here in the U.S but are still Italian citizens .
I think they have more credibility than you.
also Slovenia's low mortality rate among infants probably contributes to it's lower ranking.
good for your friend though.
Lastly I told you ad hominem never wins arguments and neither does false analogies.
We've been trough this before
Would you like me to paste a link to the most commonly used logical fallacies?
I was in Italy two weeks ago. I know Italians too, living there, not merely citizens.
Also are you daft? This isnt an ad hominem, its a serious question.
You say Slovenia's low infant mortality rate attributes to lower ranking? Wouldnt high mortality rate attribute to a lower ranking? Isnt low mortality a good thing (rhetorical question)
Its stuff like this that make me think youre just clueless rehashing whatever the good ole MSM throws at you. Talking out of your ass and seeing what sticks lol.
and what about the french? do you have french friends that are jealous of the healthcare you can get in slovenia compared to their native country?
and you were right I misspoke about the mortality rate. I always get that mixed up.
I can admit when I'm wrong and I can also easily admit I don't know anything really about Slovenia so yeah i googled that ish and came up with a theory.
I honestly do not know why slovenia is ranked lower so I said probably.... *shrugs*
the list I cited earlier like i said is not my opinion.
you are mainly trying to contest an organization that houses collective authority figures whose work is based on public health research.
it's not a list I compiled or was compiled by some random guy at some random university or institution lol
also the numbers i've given in relation to doctor's salaries or population size are also all facts.
i've worked in healthcare here in the U.S too so I'm afraid counter to your opinion i'm not talking out of my ass.
Poor people die everyday here in the U.S because of the lack of access to care.
These poor people also live in environments in which illness is more likely to occur because of environmental conditions like polluted groundwater or air.
You never answered my question about visiting rural American areas like Native American reservations ,
or destitute urban areas like Detroit , or Flint Michigan ?
Can you admit that like how I am ignorant about Slovenia you are just as ignorant about the healthcare in the U.S?
I bet you can't.
I stopped reading this reply after the first sentence which you constructed out of the aether emanating from your dung hole ( i never said nothing like that). Learn to read. Thank you.
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Posted by Telemann
Canada and the rest of the west are just weak. Their meekness does not stem from strength and so there is nothing valuable in their existence. This is why europe, canada, australiaå and usa will crumble within the next two centuries; the european demographic is weak af. You could spit in their faces and they'd do nothing, not by some christlike love but because like a weak puppy they simply lack teeth. That's why european, canadian and american women love men from other parts of the world; because they still have strength. All european males must have all died in ww2.
That’s news to me 😂😂😂
Posted by Mr_PinchyPosted by AdreamuponwakingThere you go putting words in my mouth again. This is why im a barbarian to you. /shrugs
you always say you are done
but never are
Also because of your knack to try and steer the debate onto more familiar grounds where you think you know better. We started with Morocco and Canada and youve brought us to US, Italy and now youre trying to take a Tour de France too.
To top it off you base your claim on a WHO stat, because in your PC conditioned thought process it just doesnt compute that in a country where you can bribe the cops to tell you on which bazaar you can score the best hashish they couldnt fix the numbers a little and feed it to WHO for appearances sake. Authorities, governments dont lie, never did. 😂😂😂
You need a dose of real life and some common sense which was conditioned out of you. Youre mildly delusional and it wouldnt be so bad if you wouldnt act so condescending while getting caught on erroneous details or understanding of them (dont squirm with getting terms mixed up....high and low infant mortality rate really cant be mixed up in the context we talk about and if you do.....neuroscience might be too much of a stretch for you)
😘 (this is for "hvala vam")
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Are you talking about the us? Cause that isn’t a thing...
Posted by LadyNeptune
Are you talking about the us? Cause that isn’t a thing...
Eh no, Morocco. I might have exaggerated a bit. It was more like a " thank you for the info have a drink on us" type of thing. Then he said he doesnt drink. Was awkward for a second but he said lots of tourists say it like that, so np.
We were actually talking to him about some other stuff and he hinted on his own that thats the place where lots of young westerners go when looking for hash.
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