Marriage.... do you feel it's a necessity?

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I was just doing some thinking about some of the threads I have been posting in lately and I was inspired. It seems like a lot of people lately have been posting on the topic of marriage... ie... Virgos & Marriage... Pre-nuptual agreements.... etc. I am recently out of a lengthy marriage and as a result my belief system has somewhat shifted from my original more traditional views of marriage. Whereas I certainly believe in the union of marriage and what it represents, I also find that it is NOT a necessity for me. I think I would be just as happy being in a committed long-term relationship without the "paper" that legally binds us to one another. After all shuoldnt commitment be in your heart? I think for me, unless we are considering starting a family and having children together (and lets face it at 38 this isnt a likely option), it just isn't a priority any more. Maybe it comes with age, idk. Sure, I wish to have a partner in my life to share things with. I rather enjoyed being married and living that life style , but after all it is just a piece of paper. Im not saying that I would never re-marry... I have learned that the word NEVER doesnt always happen!

Well, I was wondering how some of you felt about this as well?

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oh wow.. nobody posted yet.

I know what you mean, LeoLady.

One thing I can advise you is that you never change what you believe in NOW. What I mean is that marriage is still valid for those who truly believe in each other. Unfortunately, the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, doesn't come along that often. Sometimes it takes more than 10 years. Then chances are that it might be one-sided (I never believed there was one-sided love until I experienced it myself).

So there is this is new theory... *for each time slice, there is a partner*... not sure how that works but it makes sense to me. Because we change in time, also our needs and expectations change and THAT is the time you start learning something new about yourself. Your priorities have changed... and your selection criteria changes at the same time..


I suggest, don't panic... the love of your life will find you again eventually 😄 just don't risk any silly relations that are not worth your time if you feel there is something odd about it and if you feel too needy. The trick is finding the one who equally responds. If you start having doubts and questions, HE is NOT the one...

If you feel all is smooth sailing..


then all will be MAGIC again...


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oh wow.. nobody posted yet.

I know what you mean, LeoLady.

One thing I can advise you is that you never change what you believe in NOW. What I mean is that marriage is still valid for those who truly believe in each other. Unfortunately, the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, doesn't come along that often. Sometimes it takes more than 10 years. Then chances are that it might be one-sided (I never believed there was one-sided love until I experienced it myself).

So there is this is new theory... *for each time slice, there is a partner*... not sure how that works but it makes sense to me. Because we change in time, also our needs and expectations change and THAT is the time you start learning something new about yourself. Your priorities have changed... and your selection criteria changes at the same time..


I suggest, don't panic... the love of your life will find you again eventually 😄 just don't risk any silly relations that are not worth your time if you feel there is something odd about it and if you feel too needy. The trick is finding the one who equally responds. If you start having doubts and questions, HE is NOT the one...

If you feel all is smooth sailing..


then all will be MAGIC again...




Thanks for posting Fumi. I probably should have put it in the Relationships forum instead of this one. Oh well.

I like that saying about the time slice. Very interesting. Dont misunderstand my post though, Im not by any means saying that I have been jaded by my experience, nor am I feeling desperate or afraid that I will never find another love. I am actually EXTREMELY happy being single and dating, trying to find the right partner is not really a priority for me at this stage in my life. It will happen when the time is right and I truly believe that. I was just thinking about the whole concept of marriage and how for me its not exactly a priority to have that "piece of paper" to feel as if I am secure in a partner. I do still believe in marriage, and not saying that I wouldnt do it again, just that maybe I feel differently about NEEDING that union thats all.

You are right, time does change you and yes my needs and expectations have changed. I certainly can assure you that I will not settle for less than what I deserve!
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No one should get married just because 'everybody's doing it' or because of religious beliefs (sorry to say but its what I feel is the truth). Marriage should be for those who really want to build a future together. Thats basically what marriage is about -- its a commitment and a business all in one. If you don't want to commit to one person or if you don't want to build an interdependent life with one person, than marriage isn't for you.

Way too many people marry just because they feel they should do it. Marriage should be done because the two people involved want to do it.
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Well Leo Lady ......you are talking to a divorced lady here and I am your age .....yeah!!!! 🙂 I have been divorced for 8 years now.

I will not lie ......in my personal opinion, I think as we get older and we have had a few long term relationships, and we can become a little jaded on the subject of love ....it changes our perception of committed relationships......and our views of ourselves. It really does change us. I sometimes miss being in my twenties and younger it seemed so much easier to fall in love. In my opinion when we are in our twenties we jump into love with both feet, eager, hopeful, and excited. When we get into our thirties we have had a few relationships and probably even had our heart broken a few times, we begin to see relationships more cautiously, and we keep our hearts a little closer to ourselves. No matter who you are, when you have a relationship that devistates you, and even when you get over it .....it still changes you. I sometimes like dating younger men for this exact reason ......I think men are way worse than women. If I meet a guy who is older and has never been married ......that is a huge red flag for me to enter with caution....he has jaded written all over him. lol With younger men it is usually more carefree. I do prefer men my age or older though. It seems they can relate to life experiences ....you know growing up with similar interest.

As for your question to the original post .....I am okay if I don't ever get married again. Marriage to me does not solidify your love for a person. Would I like to have a committed love relationship and cohabitation .....of course I would, who wouldn't? Marriage for me ......would have to be a HUGE step before I take that leap again. I mean I better have one of those relationships that make you sick ....you know where the guy is kissing the feet the ground you walk on. lol

Honestly I think marriage is over rated. HA ....maybe that is the jadedness in me talking. lol

Good luck!!

PD
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Well Leo Lady ......you are talking to a divorced lady here and I am your age .....yeah!!!! 🙂 I have been divorced for 8 years now.

I will not lie ......in my personal opinion, I think as we get older and we have had a few long term relationships, and we can become a little jaded on the subject of love ....it changes our perception of committed relationships......and our views of ourselves. It really does change us. I sometimes miss being in my twenties and younger it seemed so much easier to fall in love. In my opinion when we are in our twenties we jump into love with both feet, eager, hopeful, and excited. When we get into our thirties we have had a few relationships and probably even had our heart broken a few times, we begin to see relationships more cautiously, and we keep our hearts a little closer to ourselves. No matter who you are, when you have a relationship that devistates you, and even when you get over it .....it still changes you. I sometimes like dating younger men for this exact reason ......I think men are way worse than women. If I meet a guy who is older and has never been married ......that is a huge red flag for me to enter with caution....he has jaded written all over him. lol With younger men it is usually more carefree. I do prefer men my age or older though. It seems they can relate to life experiences ....you know growing up with similar interest.

As for your question to the original post .....I am okay if I don't ever get married again. Marriage to me does not solidify your love for a person. Would I like to have a committed love relationship and cohabitation .....of course I would, who wouldn't? Marriage for me ......would have to be a HUGE step before I take that leap again. I mean I better have one of those relationships that make you sick ....you know where the guy is kissing the feet the ground you walk on. lol

Honestly I think marriage is over rated. HA ....maybe that is the jadedness in me talking. lol

Good luck!!

PD



Thanks PD. Not only do we have age in common.... we think the same way! I feel SO the same about so much of your post!!!
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Marriage is some hard work! It's not something you can just let be and expect it to be great. For the most part, I enjoy being married, but there are times when I wish I wasn't. I think as little girls, that's most of our dreams when we think of how we want to live our life. I remember every guy I dated thinking of his last name and if it would work with my first name 🙂
I do not think it's for everyone or that it's a necessity. If you have a great solid relationship with your partner, then I do not believe it's something you have to go and do.
I think PD's correct and it's about age and becoming jaded.

I wish only the best for you!!

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marriage was never a necessity for me. i was raised by my grandparents, who were married for 40+ years before my grandma died, and i still ended up this way. i'm not for or against it. it just isn't an issue with me. i noticed that here in seattle marriage is still a big thing for everyone! it's not a very child friendly place but a lot of ppl wanna get married while maintaining their careers. then get animals to replace their kids. dogs are a huge hit.

the way i view marriage is more old-fashioned. it was used way back in the day to gather assets and property. a man would marry a woman, not based solely on love, but to acquire her family's wealth/property and combine it with his own. kinda like building an empire. i can see where that would make sense to legalize everything. i just don't see how it fits into the world today however. which is why it is unimportant to me. i was practically married to my current ex in the heart and the head. we were together, and lived together, for 7 years. we played house where i starred as the little supportive wifey while he climbed the ladder of success. since i am not against marriage either, the only way i'm getting to the altar is if i am madly in love with a man that finds it important. the cool thing is that i tend to attract men who are like minded. except there's this cancer guy on my tail, who is already divorced, and has voiced that he would like to do it again... hmmm.
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This is one of my favorite posts eva there were so many views and all were so personal and amazing...thx ladies... there r sooo many things i want to comment on but am so busy and trying to get the hell off this computer and start my weekend...

so i'm coming back to it next week...

just want to say to that if my marriage eva ended i would change completely i know this for a fact L.L. *smh* it's all i know... everything else seems so foreign.

have a wonderful weekend



Looking forward to hearing your POV Eden! Thanks for taking the time to read.
Have a wonderful weekend yourself!!!
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Having done two short tours on the front lines in marriage I can say it is not all its cracked up to be. Maybe it was the men I was with, maybe it was I was too young to understand my wants and needs that I went down that path. Wrong man, wrong time, eh, what's new? That's the story of my life!!

Do I see marriage as a necessity? No, absolutely not. Would I like the title of 'wife', yes I like the sound of that. I view it as a greater status to have achieved within the relationship rather than just being the girlfriend. And, marriage is supposed to signify commitment on the part of both parties.

But, all in all, I would be happy just being in a committed partnership in which we could meet each others needs on an emotional, spiritual and physical level. *sigh* *starts singing Leanne Rimes 'Commitment'*
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Im just sayin... knowing how picky you VirGuys are in finding the perfect mate, especially one that you would consider committing to marriage is going to take one hell of a girl.... therefore "depending on the gal!"

My mother is a Virgo... and she can be pretty hard to live with.... and she admits that.... so basically she contributes the success of her marriage mainly in part to her current husband's ability to perservere through her nit-picky ways and her analytical manner.

Not meaning it in a bad way at all.
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Oh and VH... being a Leo I can actually relate to the picky-ness of partner choices... I too am extremely picky in who I consider sharing my life with. Not saying other signs are less so on an idividual basis.... I just find that certain signs are probably more so than others, whether it be based on such as vanity, degrees of success, power, financial opportunity etc....
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Posted by LeoLadyLovesToBeLoved
Oh and VH... being a Leo I can actually relate to the picky-ness of partner choices... I too am extremely picky in who I consider sharing my life with. Not saying other signs are less so on an idividual basis.... I just find that certain signs are probably more so than others, whether it be based on such as vanity, degrees of success, power, financial opportunity etc....



Yep! I know this all too well. I think I mentioned it on that "Most monogamous" thread that Leo-Lady's are VERY particular of who they share their den with.
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Oh I didn't take it as such, L.
I just wanted to hear your words on the matter.

Has your virg shown you any of his nit-picky portions yet?





Oh yes..... I probably havent mentioned this before, but he originally approached me about 7 months ago with the intention of getting to know me better, however I was already talking to Mr. Pisces so I kinda blew him off. The reason I tell you this is because, he has told me from DAY 1 how extremely picky he is when chosing a mate and basically sought me out as I apparantly "fit all his criteria" in a perfect mate. Well, we will see about that.... he doesnt know me well enough yet to make that determination. I keep telling him he may change his mind after he gets to know me a little better! LOL!! But yes.... he is certainly a bit nit picky & I am in no way blind to it! Im pretty easy going though, so nit picky isnt as bad as some other traits Ive experienced in some men! LOL!

As for my ex. He was a Taurus!! YIKES.... a BULL and a LION!!!! Nuff said!
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Oh and VH... being a Leo I can actually relate to the picky-ness of partner choices... I too am extremely picky in who I consider sharing my life with. Not saying other signs are less so on an idividual basis.... I just find that certain signs are probably more so than others, whether it be based on such as vanity, degrees of success, power, financial opportunity etc....



Yep! I know this all too well. I think I mentioned it on that "Most monogamous" thread that Leo-Lady's are VERY particular of who they share their den with.
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Yes, I think I remember that. AND yes... you are right. I hate to admit it.... but I guess the curse of a the Lion is vanity.... I do tend to look at the physical assets of a potential suitor first and foremost.... not meaning to sound shallow, but I am just attracted to a certain type and physical chemistry is very important to me... probably why I end up making the wrong choices... I tend to like the bad boys!
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I agree with Tasha, I wouldn't mind being a wife or whatever. But I have to be one when I am ready. And I'm not sure when that will be. I think marriage is a very serious commitment that shouldn't be taken lightly. Love is definitely NOT all thats required to marry somewhere. Anyway who uses just love as a basis for marrying someone should not walk down the aisle at anytime.

Love is not all that should be involved when you are talking about marriage -- there are other matters to concern. Its nice to have that whole fantasy wedding in your mind and all that 'I will marry the love of my life' stuff. However, its not realistic and most of the time, this way of thinking is why marriages do not work.
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I agree with Tasha, I wouldn't mind being a wife or whatever. But I have to be one when I am ready. And I'm not sure when that will be. I think marriage is a very serious commitment that shouldn't be taken lightly. Love is definitely NOT all thats required to marry somewhere. Anyway who uses just love as a basis for marrying someone should not walk down the aisle at anytime.

Love is not all that should be involved when you are talking about marriage -- there are other matters to concern. Its nice to have that whole fantasy wedding in your mind and all that 'I will marry the love of my life' stuff. However, its not realistic and most of the time, this way of thinking is why marriages do not work.



I feel absolutely sorry for your future husband, cappy.

*DUCKS REALLY FAST* 😛
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Oh yes..... I probably havent mentioned this before, but he originally approached me about 7 months ago with the intention of getting to know me better, however I was already talking to Mr. Pisces so I kinda blew him off. The reason I tell you this is because, he has told me from DAY 1 how extremely picky he is when chosing a mate and basically sought me out as I apparantly "fit all his criteria" in a perfect mate. Well, we will see about that.... he doesnt know me well enough yet to make that determination. I keep telling him he may change his mind after he gets to know me a little better! LOL!! But yes.... he is certainly a bit nit picky & I am in no way blind to it! Im pretty easy going though, so nit picky isnt as bad as some other traits Ive experienced in some men! LOL!





Haha if I had a way to give your boy a hint, I'd tell him, AVOID USING THAT L-WORD AT ALL COSTS FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS. SHE'LL RUN AT THE FIRST SIGHT OF THAT L-WORD lol
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I agree with Tasha, I wouldn't mind being a wife or whatever. But I have to be one when I am ready. And I'm not sure when that will be. I think marriage is a very serious commitment that shouldn't be taken lightly. Love is definitely NOT all thats required to marry somewhere. Anyway who uses just love as a basis for marrying someone should not walk down the aisle at anytime.

Love is not all that should be involved when you are talking about marriage -- there are other matters to concern. Its nice to have that whole fantasy wedding in your mind and all that 'I will marry the love of my life' stuff. However, its not realistic and most of the time, this way of thinking is why marriages do not work.



I feel absolutely sorry for your future husband, cappy.

*DUCKS REALLY FAST* 😛
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LOL! OMG, why—??
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Oh yes..... I probably havent mentioned this before, but he originally approached me about 7 months ago with the intention of getting to know me better, however I was already talking to Mr. Pisces so I kinda blew him off. The reason I tell you this is because, he has told me from DAY 1 how extremely picky he is when chosing a mate and basically sought me out as I apparantly "fit all his criteria" in a perfect mate. Well, we will see about that.... he doesnt know me well enough yet to make that determination. I keep telling him he may change his mind after he gets to know me a little better! LOL!! But yes.... he is certainly a bit nit picky & I am in no way blind to it! Im pretty easy going though, so nit picky isnt as bad as some other traits Ive experienced in some men! LOL!





Haha if I had a way to give your boy a hint, I'd tell him, AVOID USING THAT L-WORD AT ALL COSTS FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS. SHE'LL RUN AT THE FIRST SIGHT OF THAT L-WORD lol
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My ex-bf used the "L-Word" with me ... after just being with me for a little while. Seriously, we were totally not even together that long for him to even say, "I love you ..." I was like 'Holy cow .... where can I hide'
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Oh yes..... I probably havent mentioned this before, but he originally approached me about 7 months ago with the intention of getting to know me better, however I was already talking to Mr. Pisces so I kinda blew him off. The reason I tell you this is because, he has told me from DAY 1 how extremely picky he is when chosing a mate and basically sought me out as I apparantly "fit all his criteria" in a perfect mate. Well, we will see about that.... he doesnt know me well enough yet to make that determination. I keep telling him he may change his mind after he gets to know me a little better! LOL!! But yes.... he is certainly a bit nit picky & I am in no way blind to it! Im pretty easy going though, so nit picky isnt as bad as some other traits Ive experienced in some men! LOL!





Haha if I had a way to give your boy a hint, I'd tell him, AVOID USING THAT L-WORD AT ALL COSTS FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS. SHE'LL RUN AT THE FIRST SIGHT OF THAT L-WORD lol
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OMG!!!! That would be about the best advice anyone could give him!!! HOW THE HELL DID YOU KNOW THAT!!!! Am I that transparent?

But, all kidding aside.... Prior to Mr. Pisces... I have only said the L word to two other men in my life outside of family members. My first love (high school sweetheart) and my ex-husband. Looking back now.... I shouldnt have said it so quickly to Mr. Pisces... but.... I did open up to him completely and put myself out there for the first time in 16 years and it just didnt work... no regrets really... but I dont see that word coming from my lips again anytime soon!
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probably why I end up making the wrong choices... I tend to like the bad boys!

Thats funny, I'm the opposite. I detest bad boys but I attract them like honey 😢

I'm into the artsy, nerdy but sweet kind of guys ... alittle muscle doesn't hurt either lol.



I know... I just cant help myself!!! Muscles, tattoos & a bad ass attitude leaves me weak at the knees. But, I do find most of them to be actual softies on the inside..... so I really like that!!! A bad boy with a kind heart... *SIGH*

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Oh yes..... I probably havent mentioned this before, but he originally approached me about 7 months ago with the intention of getting to know me better, however I was already talking to Mr. Pisces so I kinda blew him off. The reason I tell you this is because, he has told me from DAY 1 how extremely picky he is when chosing a mate and basically sought me out as I apparantly "fit all his criteria" in a perfect mate. Well, we will see about that.... he doesnt know me well enough yet to make that determination. I keep telling him he may change his mind after he gets to know me a little better! LOL!! But yes.... he is certainly a bit nit picky & I am in no way blind to it! Im pretty easy going though, so nit picky isnt as bad as some other traits Ive experienced in some men! LOL!





Haha if I had a way to give your boy a hint, I'd tell him, AVOID USING THAT L-WORD AT ALL COSTS FOR THE NEXT 6 MONTHS. SHE'LL RUN AT THE FIRST SIGHT OF THAT L-WORD lol



OMG!!!! That would be about the best advice anyone could give him!!! HOW THE HELL DID YOU KNOW THAT!!!! Am I that transparent?

But, all kidding aside.... Prior to Mr. Pisces... I have only said the L word to two other men in my life outside of family members. My first love (high school sweetheart) and my ex-husband. Looking back now.... I shouldnt have said it so quickly to Mr. Pisces... but.... I did open up to him completely and put myself out there for the first time in 16 years and it just didnt work... no regrets really... but I dont see that word coming from my lips again anytime soon!
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Awww 😢

You know, my ex-bf's girlfriend was like that. At least thats what I was told. They were together for like 10 years.
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probably why I end up making the wrong choices... I tend to like the bad boys!

Thats funny, I'm the opposite. I detest bad boys but I attract them like honey 😢

I'm into the artsy, nerdy but sweet kind of guys ... alittle muscle doesn't hurt either lol.



I know... I just cant help myself!!! Muscles, tattoos & a bad ass attitude leaves me weak at the knees. But, I do find most of them to be actual softies on the inside..... so I really like that!!! A bad boy with a kind heart... *SIGH*

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Oh lady, I totally hear you 😄 Yes, Muscles and tattoos and that freaking kick-ass personality can be real turn-ons 🙂 BUT its too much for me, I can put up with it for like a day or so, but afterwards ... I'm over it :/ I would date a guy like that but he wouldn't be my boyfriend.
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ROTFL!!!! xD

Okay, I see your point ... I wouldn't marry me either lol. Its that Aqua moon, I tell you. We are not the marry kind 😉



That explains EVERYTHING. lol
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No it doesn't ...


Aqua moon
Aqua mars
Aqua venus
Libra rising


THAT my dear, explains everything and some, if you know what I mean ^_^. LOL!
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Oh lady, I totally hear you 😄 Yes, Muscles and tattoos and that freaking kick-ass personality can be real turn-ons 🙂 BUT its too much for me, I can put up with it for like a day or so, but afterwards ... I'm over it :/ I would date a guy like that but he wouldn't be my boyfriend.
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Girl I married it!!!!! LMAO!!!
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OMG!!!! That would be about the best advice anyone could give him!!! HOW THE HELL DID YOU KNOW THAT!!!! Am I that transparent?





Oh us V's are good like that.



Okay... now you r starting to sound like a Pisces! LOL!
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Don't let him fool you 😉 He can totally come off as a pisces guy. If his username didn't indicate the obvious that is ^_^.
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Posted by LeoLadyLovesToBeLoved
Posted by cappysweetie




Oh lady, I totally hear you 😄 Yes, Muscles and tattoos and that freaking kick-ass personality can be real turn-ons 🙂 BUT its too much for me, I can put up with it for like a day or so, but afterwards ... I'm over it :/ I would date a guy like that but he wouldn't be my boyfriend.



Girl I married it!!!!! LMAO!!!
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Yikes!

Uh .... well .... .... you see ... well ... hmmmmmm


lol
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19 Years10,000+ Posts

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Posted by VirgoHero
Posted by cappysweetie

No it doesn't ...


Aqua moon
Aqua mars
Aqua venus
Libra rising


THAT my dear, explains everything and some, if you know what I mean ^_^. LOL!



Okay now I REALLY mean it. I have nothing but pity and sympathy for your future hubby lol.
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hahaha, especially if he's a virgo huh? lol, now you see why I try to warn all virgo guys before getting involved with me. However, typically they don't listen.
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