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Dating Across Class Lines
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
Posted by xXxAliiciaXxX
How far past the threshold we talkin?
parents income greater than 200k
with one dependent
vs
parents income less than 90k
with 5 dependents
your projected income = 60k for 5 years and then 300-500k per year
their income =25k unless they follow through with stripping on the side to make extra money
Posted by LaPetiteEtoile
I’ve dated and married up and down.
Men that are rich or shall I say have rich parents and privilege are very demanding and have little awareness of real life. They expect to win you over with money but get mad when they spend money on you.
Men that are lower class (financially) have a chip on their shoulder and feel like you need to settle because they had to learn how to settle growing up. Can be patronizing with the “boot strap” shit. Assume you are spoiled and they aren’t good enough.
🤷🏻♀️
which of the two did you marry?
Posted by Jade_Alexander
I’m poor AF
I dated upper middle class with income over $ 100k with minimal debt.
Ive been asked out why guys who have A LOT of family money
I want stability on my partner, so what that looks like is different then just dollars
I have been around money and nice things most of my life. I’m kinda meh about it
from my experience money = stability.
Posted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by LaPetiteEtoile
I’ve dated and married up and down.
Men that are rich or shall I say have rich parents and privilege are very demanding and have little awareness of real life. They expect to win you over with money but get mad when they spend money on you.
Men that are lower class (financially) have a chip on their shoulder and feel like you need to settle because they had to learn how to settle growing up. Can be patronizing with the “boot strap” shit. Assume you are spoiled and they aren’t good enough.
🤷🏻♀️
which of the two did you marry?
Second one. First one proposed but I rejected him. But I’ve dated 2 in both categories.click to expand
this was insightful
Posted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by Jade_Alexander
I’m poor AF
I dated upper middle class with income over $ 100k with minimal debt.
Ive been asked out why guys who have A LOT of family money
I want stability on my partner, so what that looks like is different then just dollars
I have been around money and nice things most of my life. I’m kinda meh about it
from my experience money = stability.
It’s knowing what to do with money that creates stability. Just earning it doesn’t mean much if it’s all going out.click to expand
This is true. I've noticed there are a lot more high earning ( e.g make 120k+) frugal people though. At least that's what I've seen in my life. I will out myself as coming from a mixed collar family ( my dad is from an upper-middle-class family and my mom comes from a working-class background but has recently joined the middle class via the pursuit of higher education)
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by xXxAliiciaXxX
How far past the threshold we talkin?
parents income greater than 200k
with one dependent
vs
parents income less than 90k
with 5 dependents
your projected income = 60k for 5 years and then 300-500k per year
their income =25k unless they follow through with stripping on the side to make extra money
My husband is an only child. Mum in law was an accountant and father in law was in mining. But they don't act like they got money. They are thriftyAF.
My ex before him, his dad was a Psychiatrist at British Airways before his retirement. And his mum was a politician in one of the places in the UK. They got money. And he was the only son. He was a bit spoiled and very competitive.
My ex before him was from a family running their own businesses in Asia. The eldest child of 5. Didn't act like he had money but he was spoiled in some ways.
My family is in the real estate business. We are not mega rich but comfortable. I think it depends how the money affected the person. Some people with old money tend to be a bit nicer. Some with new money seem to want to prove their new worth.
So I'd date a higher class. But unfortunately, it will be hard for me to date someone of lower class. I tried it once and its just very different from my upbringing and the kind of people I am surrounded by or hang out with. Its just very different and the adjustment for me is not worth it.click to expand
thanks for your honesty.
it's something I'm obviously thinking about
Posted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .click to expand
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
Posted by tizianiPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
Because have you seen the exchange rate lately? It’s a license to act like a baller
HAHAHA
I was ordering online in SGP dollars the other day and I felt benevolent
Then went back to GBP in person and humbled myselfclick to expand
Posted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by tizianiPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
Because have you seen the exchange rate lately? It’s a license to act like a baller
I was ordering online in SGP dollars the other day and I felt benevolent
Then went back to GBP in person and humbled myself
I felt poor as fuck in Iceland. LOL $ 40 for two coffees and muffins.
UK seemed pretty affordable for travel at least.
I still have some pounds I’m hanging onto for some reason. The money is pretty I don’t want to change it back. 😂click to expand
Right?
I've heard similar things about Sweden, Denmark, and Switzerland
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
I'm not judging. I was actually asking. Since Rabid mentioned that most Americans are poor. I don't live in America so I was curious.click to expand
hmm poverty is relative.
American poverty is not due to income. It's due to the cost of living.
Working-class salaries, as well as even some household incomes that fall below the poverty line for its relative size in the US, are middle class or even high earning households in countries abroad.
e.g - one person on permanent disability in the US could live comfortably ( rent a one-bedroom apartment, have enough money to eat, travel or save in a lot of European cities )
Posted by Adreamuponwaking
Yay or Nay?
Why or Why Not?
Yay.
Because it's not something I think about. And, romantic relationships is not where class issues began. I have become desensitized. It's when a mf teases me on a date for eating chicken breast with a knife and fork. It's like... oh, I forgot about this shit.
I had family members try to insinuate and start rumors about suspected abuse because we lived my husband's life style in the early years. He grew up a farmer.
Even with class/status, my family is still real and eccentric. I was more afraid of the eccentricity... like introducing people to the Tennebaums.... kooky.
Posted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
A lot of Americans simply go into debt if they don’t have the cash flow.
So basically that's the bunch in 90 day fiance? I also read an article pointing that out. Like Ed for example and that guy with Varya who was complaining about Varya's apartment when he had a whole bunch of criminal record for selling drugs and also for physical abuse towards his ex wives. He didn't seem well off and Varya had a decent apartment. I didn't understand it.
I mean I get wanting to date non-Americans but to a certain extent those people have issues that led them to that last resort.
Most of them probably know they are being used but are so starved for attention and affection they will do just about anything to have it. Including going into debt.
Plus half of the fun for them is the fantasy. As long as they can pretend.click to expand
Damn
I hope this is never me
Posted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
I'm not judging. I was actually asking. Since Rabid mentioned that most Americans are poor. I don't live in America so I was curious.
hmm poverty is relative.
American poverty is not due to income. It's due to the cost of living.
Working-class salaries, as well as even some household incomes that fall below the poverty line for its relative size in the US, are middle class or even high earning households in countries abroad.
e.g - one person on permanent disability in the US could live comfortably ( rent a one-bedroom apartment, have enough money to eat, travel or save in a lot of European cities )
It is due to income. Income isn’t increasing at the same rate as inflation.click to expand
to a certain extent, this is true but again Americans have to pay for a lot more things and things also cost more ( at least bigger ticket items like housing and education)
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
A lot of Americans simply go into debt if they don’t have the cash flow.
So basically that's the bunch in 90 day fiance? I also read an article pointing that out. Like Ed for example and that guy with Varya who was complaining about Varya's apartment when he had a whole bunch of criminal record for selling drugs and also for physical abuse towards his ex wives. He didn't seem well off and Varya had a decent apartment. I didn't understand it.
I mean I get wanting to date non-Americans but to a certain extent those people have issues that led them to that last resort.
Most of them probably know they are being used but are so starved for attention and affection they will do just about anything to have it. Including going into debt.
Plus half of the fun for them is the fantasy. As long as they can pretend.
Damn
I hope this is never me
Watch it on YouTube! You'll see what I mean.click to expand
haha I read the synopsis and it depressed me lol
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by Adreamuponwaking
Yay or Nay?
Why or Why Not?
Even with class/status, my family is still real and eccentric. I was more afraid of the eccentricity... like introducing people to the Tennebaums.... kooky.click to expand
LOL
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
A lot of Americans simply go into debt if they don’t have the cash flow.
So basically that's the bunch in 90 day fiance? I also read an article pointing that out. Like Ed for example and that guy with Varya who was complaining about Varya's apartment when he had a whole bunch of criminal record for selling drugs and also for physical abuse towards his ex wives. He didn't seem well off and Varya had a decent apartment. I didn't understand it.
I mean I get wanting to date non-Americans but to a certain extent those people have issues that led them to that last resort.
Most of them probably know they are being used but are so starved for attention and affection they will do just about anything to have it. Including going into debt.
Plus half of the fun for them is the fantasy. As long as they can pretend.
Damn
I hope this is never me
Watch it on YouTube! You'll see what I mean.
haha I read the synopsis and it depressed me lol
It was 😂😂😂😂😂 and I wondered if it was the norm? Like if I live in America, would I meet guys like those who would say fancy things and not be able to actually afford it? I'd rather he say firsthand that he can't. 😂 My husband already told me firsthand he's not a Nobu dinner kind of guy. He's a KFC kind of guy and I was happy with it 😂 I love KFC chicken wings 😂click to expand
lol
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
Posted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
I'm not judging. I was actually asking. Since Rabid mentioned that most Americans are poor. I don't live in America so I was curious.
hmm poverty is relative.
American poverty is not due to income. It's due to the cost of living.
Working-class salaries, as well as even some household incomes that fall below the poverty line for its relative size in the US, are middle class or even high earning households in countries abroad.
e.g - one person on permanent disability in the US could live comfortably ( rent a one-bedroom apartment, have enough money to eat, travel or save in a lot of European cities )
It is due to income. Income isn’t increasing at the same rate as inflation.
It's the same everywhere else I reckon. Back in the day, you make 40K a year and you can buy a house for 200K. That's still affordable. Now, you make 80K a year and the price of houses cost 700K at minimum. You'd be working all your life to afford a home at least where I am.
Median income is roughly $ 70,000 per household. Household is key. The majority of single people is still making around $ 35-40k in US.
Average is dragged up by how much the top makes.
Oh wow. That is pretty low. 70K USD is one person's salary here in Melbourne. And Sydney peeps get paid so much more than us. And yet we actually complain about it. There are some here that gets paid lower, I think on average is like 65K AUD but it's like a fresh grads salary.click to expand
yeah but $ 1 US = $ 1.57 AU.
It kinds of ends up being the same thing except when you are talking about higher-earning households.
40k us = 62.8 k au
vs
avg doctor in us makes 300k us per year
doctor in au makes 120-250 k au per year = 76 - 160k us a year
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
A lot of Americans simply go into debt if they don’t have the cash flow.
So basically that's the bunch in 90 day fiance? I also read an article pointing that out. Like Ed for example and that guy with Varya who was complaining about Varya's apartment when he had a whole bunch of criminal record for selling drugs and also for physical abuse towards his ex wives. He didn't seem well off and Varya had a decent apartment. I didn't understand it.
I mean I get wanting to date non-Americans but to a certain extent those people have issues that led them to that last resort.
Most of them probably know they are being used but are so starved for attention and affection they will do just about anything to have it. Including going into debt.
Plus half of the fun for them is the fantasy. As long as they can pretend.
Damn
I hope this is never me
Watch it on YouTube! You'll see what I mean.
haha I read the synopsis and it depressed me lol
It was 😂😂😂😂😂 and I wondered if it was the norm? Like if I live in America, would I meet guys like those who would say fancy things and not be able to actually afford it? I'd rather he say firsthand that he can't. 😂 My husband already told me firsthand he's not a Nobu dinner kind of guy. He's a KFC kind of guy and I was happy with it 😂 I love KFC chicken wings 😂
lol
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
😂😂😂😂😂 Hang on what fast-food do you normally eat in? I'm curious. I have to come back to America one day!click to expand
rarely eat fast-food spots.
We get take out a lot from casual restaurants
( e.g- mom and pop sushi bars, or the occasional high-end taqueria lol)
Posted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
I'm not judging. I was actually asking. Since Rabid mentioned that most Americans are poor. I don't live in America so I was curious.
hmm poverty is relative.
American poverty is not due to income. It's due to the cost of living.
Working-class salaries, as well as even some household incomes that fall below the poverty line for its relative size in the US, are middle class or even high earning households in countries abroad.
e.g - one person on permanent disability in the US could live comfortably ( rent a one-bedroom apartment, have enough money to eat, travel or save in a lot of European cities )
It is due to income. Income isn’t increasing at the same rate as inflation.
It's the same everywhere else I reckon. Back in the day, you make 40K a year and you can buy a house for 200K. That's still affordable. Now, you make 80K a year and the price of houses cost 700K at minimum. You'd be working all your life to afford a home at least where I am.
Median income is roughly $ 70,000 per household. Household is key. The majority of single people is still making around $ 35-40k in US.
Average is dragged up by how much the top makes.
Oh wow. That is pretty low. 70K USD is one person's salary here in Melbourne. And Sydney peeps get paid so much more than us. And yet we actually complain about it. There are some here that gets paid lower, I think on average is like 65K AUD but it's like a fresh grads salary. Like telesales type of job. Cost of living is expensive though. Rent here runs at at least 550aud weekly in a decent area like Toorak, St. Kilda, Southbank, Prahan, etc. The lowest I've seen is 350 but it was not in an ideal place to live in.
Yeah I mean it’s higher in major cities because of the cost of living to an extent but the spending power is less. Gross minimum wage is just over the poverty line.
We really should be at $ 20 minimum wage instead of $ 7.50 to match the spending power of the 80s.
Damn. Don't you guys ever think about living and working overseas to get a higher salary? I've seen some people do that. Some Aussies I know moved to the UK for better money. And some Asians moved to Australia for the same reason. I rarely see an American do the same though. Or is it more like just moving to another state to help with the income challenges?click to expand
a lot of people would actually earn less
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
I'm not judging. I was actually asking. Since Rabid mentioned that most Americans are poor. I don't live in America so I was curious.
hmm poverty is relative.
American poverty is not due to income. It's due to the cost of living.
Working-class salaries, as well as even some household incomes that fall below the poverty line for its relative size in the US, are middle class or even high earning households in countries abroad.
e.g - one person on permanent disability in the US could live comfortably ( rent a one-bedroom apartment, have enough money to eat, travel or save in a lot of European cities )
It is due to income. Income isn’t increasing at the same rate as inflation.
It's the same everywhere else I reckon. Back in the day, you make 40K a year and you can buy a house for 200K. That's still affordable. Now, you make 80K a year and the price of houses cost 700K at minimum. You'd be working all your life to afford a home at least where I am.
Median income is roughly $ 70,000 per household. Household is key. The majority of single people is still making around $ 35-40k in US.
Average is dragged up by how much the top makes.
Oh wow. That is pretty low. 70K USD is one person's salary here in Melbourne. And Sydney peeps get paid so much more than us. And yet we actually complain about it. There are some here that gets paid lower, I think on average is like 65K AUD but it's like a fresh grads salary.
yeah but $ 1 US = $ 1.57 AU.
It kinds of ends up being the same thing except when you are talking about higher-earning households.
40k us = 62.8 k au
vs
avg doctor in us makes 300k us per year
doctor in au makes 120-250 k au per year = 76 - 160k us a year
The 62.8K au will be a fresh grads salary though. You don't really stay in that bracket for over 2 years. Doctors make heaps of money there! We actually have a shortage of doctors here as there are other jobs like in IT that pays an average of 120-250k per year. I think they make more than the doctors here! Especially the sales guys.click to expand
yeah people in IT ( or really people who have computer science backgrounds) start out around 70-90k on the very low end
I'd say most earn between 120-150k and I even have a friend who was making a little over 200k and that was her very first job at 21.
That is not that common though ( she worked in fintech and was recruited by a hedge fund because she came from a top tier university with one of the best business schools in the country)
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
I'm not judging. I was actually asking. Since Rabid mentioned that most Americans are poor. I don't live in America so I was curious.
hmm poverty is relative.
American poverty is not due to income. It's due to the cost of living.
Working-class salaries, as well as even some household incomes that fall below the poverty line for its relative size in the US, are middle class or even high earning households in countries abroad.
e.g - one person on permanent disability in the US could live comfortably ( rent a one-bedroom apartment, have enough money to eat, travel or save in a lot of European cities )
It is due to income. Income isn’t increasing at the same rate as inflation.
It's the same everywhere else I reckon. Back in the day, you make 40K a year and you can buy a house for 200K. That's still affordable. Now, you make 80K a year and the price of houses cost 700K at minimum. You'd be working all your life to afford a home at least where I am.
Median income is roughly $ 70,000 per household. Household is key. The majority of single people is still making around $ 35-40k in US.
Average is dragged up by how much the top makes.
Oh wow. That is pretty low. 70K USD is one person's salary here in Melbourne. And Sydney peeps get paid so much more than us. And yet we actually complain about it. There are some here that gets paid lower, I think on average is like 65K AUD but it's like a fresh grads salary.
yeah but $ 1 US = $ 1.57 AU.
It kinds of ends up being the same thing except when you are talking about higher-earning households.
40k us = 62.8 k au
vs
avg doctor in us makes 300k us per year
doctor in au makes 120-250 k au per year = 76 - 160k us a year
The 62.8K au will be a fresh grads salary though. You don't really stay in that bracket for over 2 years.Especially the sales guys.click to expand
Same I think the average starting salary in the US for someone with bachelor's is around 50k or 78.5 AU which is again higher.
The issue is though we have more students with debt or at least higher amounts of debt.
Posted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by 7thHousePosted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by AdreamuponwakingPosted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .
oh wow
never use reality tv to make judgments about large groups of people
I'm not judging. I was actually asking. Since Rabid mentioned that most Americans are poor. I don't live in America so I was curious.
hmm poverty is relative.
American poverty is not due to income. It's due to the cost of living.
Working-class salaries, as well as even some household incomes that fall below the poverty line for its relative size in the US, are middle class or even high earning households in countries abroad.
e.g - one person on permanent disability in the US could live comfortably ( rent a one-bedroom apartment, have enough money to eat, travel or save in a lot of European cities )
It is due to income. Income isn’t increasing at the same rate as inflation.
It's the same everywhere else I reckon. Back in the day, you make 40K a year and you can buy a house for 200K. That's still affordable. Now, you make 80K a year and the price of houses cost 700K at minimum. You'd be working all your life to afford a home at least where I am.
Median income is roughly $ 70,000 per household. Household is key. The majority of single people is still making around $ 35-40k in US.
Average is dragged up by how much the top makes.
Oh wow. That is pretty low. 70K USD is one person's salary here in Melbourne. And Sydney peeps get paid so much more than us. And yet we actually complain about it. There are some here that gets paid lower, I think on average is like 65K AUD but it's like a fresh grads salary.
yeah but $ 1 US = $ 1.57 AU.
It kinds of ends up being the same thing except when you are talking about higher-earning households.
40k us = 62.8 k au
vs
avg doctor in us makes 300k us per year
doctor in au makes 120-250 k au per year = 76 - 160k us a year
The 62.8K au will be a fresh grads salary though. You don't really stay in that bracket for over 2 years. Doctors make heaps of money there! We actually have a shortage of doctors here as there are other jobs like in IT that pays an average of 120-250k per year. I think they make more than the doctors here! Especially the sales guys.
yeah people in IT ( or really people who have computer science backgrounds) start out around 70-90k on the very low end
I'd say most earn between 120-150k and I even have a friend who was making a little over 200k and that was her very first job at 21.
That is not that common though ( she worked in fintech and was recruited by a hedge fund because she came from a top tier university with one of the best business schools in the country)
It sales guys here don't have strict requirements. Fortunately! They can be from car sales wanting more money so just loved to IT sales 😂 the lucky ones eh!click to expand
hmm yeah i think it depends on the type of work you are doing
salespeople at software companies do not need to have a programming background/computer science degree BUT make the least (70-110k) vs programmers who have computer science degrees that carry out arguably more vital jobs.
my friend that made 200k helped to write/program and implement trading algorithms with a team of economists and other programmers for the hedge fund.
Posted by 7thHousePosted by rabidtalker
errr kind of a rarity these days, most of america is poor now so mostly in the same class. unless this is geared to outside of the usa.
It's interesting you said that. I was wondering how come the Americans in 90 day fiance seem to be huge brats when they visited the Philippines, Russia etc. And yet when their homes were shown in the 90 fiance, they didn't even seem to live a lavish life style .click to expand
never watched that show so cant comment, sorry!
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