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Does anyone believe in twin flames?
It's rather plutonic, not twin flame... especially the push pull thing is notorious. It's rather can be soulmate thing especially sun square pluto for example. Soulmate not someone or something goes flawless but teach you something no one could before.
Divine love does exist... twin flame is a category that was created by Satan to keep people codependent on the other.... Cult like mentality is never of God... Everyone wants to find twin flame... Also with synchronicity ... That is not limited to divine partnerships which many twin flame gurus push to keep you bound in a way thinking ... Synchronicity is for all faucets in life ... So you will see it... That's ancient language and it's not limited to anyone .... In other words it's not linked to twin flames ... It's linked to getting you back to source ... Within... No one can help you do that especially a partner ... You will be stuck in a maze if you depend on that... Expecting for someone outside of yourself to heal you... Synchronicity is guidance only... Divine love is unconditional love with no limits ... Folks that consider the twin flame thing are bound in some way... A mindset .... True love flows freely to you from within ... But you must dive within love yourself before any partner with the same vibration will come in...
Thank you for the insight. If it's too draining it's too much to put up with!
Gotta get my head out of the clouds
Gotta get my head out of the clouds
Thank you for the insight. If it's too draining it's too much to put up with!
Gotta get my head out of the clouds
Gotta get my head out of the clouds
Nope. My Pluto aspects always pull other Pluto aspects and trick us into thinking we are twin flames. I've met too many people that seem meant to be and then I found out they were meant to leave instead lol
Pluto is tricky...
"The general consensus is : unique feeling as in one of a kind, strong sense of already knowing each other, and the connection can be overwhelming and trigger the shit out of each other. Scary as shit honestly. Connection will always be there it will be the one connection no matter what you do or try you can't severe. They talk a lot about vibration/wave length/frequency. The closer you are to each other in that sense the more you will feel the other. Strong bursts of emotion when you think of each other from each other is common."
Yep, we have this totally from both side.
Intense as hell.
However one need to note as well, having pluto ascendant, chiron, North node, sun square pluto (soulmates) contacts with beside the pluto venus makes hard to distinguish what is really is.
At the end of the day is definitely not a relationship you been before so you will definitely know if you are in one of this type.i don't think it's really matters if twin flame or not, but I believe in that it's definitely fated and must not be avoided.
Yep, we have this totally from both side.
Intense as hell.
However one need to note as well, having pluto ascendant, chiron, North node, sun square pluto (soulmates) contacts with beside the pluto venus makes hard to distinguish what is really is.
At the end of the day is definitely not a relationship you been before so you will definitely know if you are in one of this type.i don't think it's really matters if twin flame or not, but I believe in that it's definitely fated and must not be avoided.
No I don't necessarily adopt this concept..... I mean my relationships are already non existent.... Adding the twin flame issue and I will be single forever xD
its just a random concept to give people hope a tell them what they want to hear to sell books. It's not real, I used to think it was but you really can get in a mess thinking someone feels more than they do, your always better not to believe in this concept. And that's the main thing.
Posted by BottabingYes
Divine love does exist... twin flame is a category that was created by Satan to keep people codependent on the other.... Cult like mentality is never of God... Everyone wants to find twin flame... Also with synchronicity ... That is not limited to divine partnerships which many twin flame gurus push to keep you bound in a way thinking ... Synchronicity is for all faucets in life ... So you will see it... That's ancient language and it's not limited to anyone .... In other words it's not linked to twin flames ... It's linked to getting you back to source ... Within... No one can help you do that especially a partner ... You will be stuck in a maze if you depend on that... Expecting for someone outside of yourself to heal you... Synchronicity is guidance only... Divine love is unconditional love with no limits ... Folks that consider the twin flame thing are bound in some way... A mindset .... True love flows freely to you from within ... But you must dive within love yourself before any partner with the same vibration will come in...
Satan invented marriage too.....chained to one person for the rest of your life
God would never do that
Lol
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if someone said i was their twin flame i would run, you dont want to be anyones twin flame it will never work. In synastry their considered "star crossed-lovers" It just will never be no matter what you do.
Just a quick update
extremely interesting relationship,plutonic or not, I think it's very familiar to twin flame relationship if it succeed a breakthrough.
From my experience lately, I came to the realisation of that, my partner and I were mirror of each other. We had a vicious cycle of pull push due hurt each other and love each other phases while the love and bond were very strong. That's made us keep up with the process without breaking up. All of our buttons were pushed to extreme but those periods with full of love and compassion balanced out the ego battle and let hold on to the process. From my side I went through a serious ego breakdown for the better. I think it's takes lots of maturity and emotional strength to pass that stage to eventually letting go things and see the fact that you love that person more than your false ego agenda about how everything supposed to work out based in your selfish point of view. Because at the end is boils down about your expectations how the relationship should look like. Instead just let it be. Once you able to let go, it shines. Your partner as well feels it, and everything becomes smooth. Even there is some argument both of you more aware of the situation and each other role of the mirroring. Wonderful thing. Extremely intense and passionate, sometimes it's so much you have to break away from each other because can not be handled the emotions are overwhelming. When you re apart you can't stop thinking about the other and constantly check on them and they do to you. When you cycle back, all that intense emotions comes out, emotionally, sexually in its fullness.I think this type of relationship is very rare. Both partners are polar opposite while they core system almost identical. Its very hard to put in words. It's very similar to narcissistic type of relationship and can be mistaken easily because the ego battle involves lots of controlling and jealousy but what makes it still different is you feel subconsciously below those battles there is tremendous amount of love and not stop fighting for each other. You can't just give up on each other. Both of you know it is something unique and worth to hold onto. Those times when love and compassion dominate, there is high synchronisation and psychic connection. The mirroring also amplified in sex, both partner experience togetherness trust and fully open,extremely responsive and reflection of your own passion and feelings back to you. Honestly I had good relationships in my life and been always passionate but this is something out of this world.
extremely interesting relationship,plutonic or not, I think it's very familiar to twin flame relationship if it succeed a breakthrough.
From my experience lately, I came to the realisation of that, my partner and I were mirror of each other. We had a vicious cycle of pull push due hurt each other and love each other phases while the love and bond were very strong. That's made us keep up with the process without breaking up. All of our buttons were pushed to extreme but those periods with full of love and compassion balanced out the ego battle and let hold on to the process. From my side I went through a serious ego breakdown for the better. I think it's takes lots of maturity and emotional strength to pass that stage to eventually letting go things and see the fact that you love that person more than your false ego agenda about how everything supposed to work out based in your selfish point of view. Because at the end is boils down about your expectations how the relationship should look like. Instead just let it be. Once you able to let go, it shines. Your partner as well feels it, and everything becomes smooth. Even there is some argument both of you more aware of the situation and each other role of the mirroring. Wonderful thing. Extremely intense and passionate, sometimes it's so much you have to break away from each other because can not be handled the emotions are overwhelming. When you re apart you can't stop thinking about the other and constantly check on them and they do to you. When you cycle back, all that intense emotions comes out, emotionally, sexually in its fullness.I think this type of relationship is very rare. Both partners are polar opposite while they core system almost identical. Its very hard to put in words. It's very similar to narcissistic type of relationship and can be mistaken easily because the ego battle involves lots of controlling and jealousy but what makes it still different is you feel subconsciously below those battles there is tremendous amount of love and not stop fighting for each other. You can't just give up on each other. Both of you know it is something unique and worth to hold onto. Those times when love and compassion dominate, there is high synchronisation and psychic connection. The mirroring also amplified in sex, both partner experience togetherness trust and fully open,extremely responsive and reflection of your own passion and feelings back to you. Honestly I had good relationships in my life and been always passionate but this is something out of this world.
Posted by SheeverIt’s sounds amazing 😄 Crazy, but amazing
Just a quick update
extremely interesting relationship,plutonic or not, I think it's very familiar to twin flame relationship if it succeed a breakthrough.
From my experience lately, I came to the realisation of that, my partner and I were mirror of each other. We had a vicious cycle of pull push due hurt each other and love each other phases while the love and bond were very strong. That's made us keep up with the process without breaking up. All of our buttons were pushed to extreme but those periods with full of love and compassion balanced out the ego battle and let hold on to the process. From my side I went through a serious ego breakdown for the better. I think it's takes lots of maturity and emotional strength to pass that stage to eventually letting go things and see the fact that you love that person more than your false ego agenda about how everything supposed to work out based in your selfish point of view. Because at the end is boils down about your expectations how the relationship should look like. Instead just let it be. Once you able to let go, it shines. Your partner as well feels it, and everything becomes smooth. Even there is some argument both of you more aware of the situation and each other role of the mirroring. Wonderful thing. Extremely intense and passionate, sometimes it's so much you have to break away from each other because can not be handled the emotions are overwhelming. When you re apart you can't stop thinking about the other and constantly check on them and they do to you. When you cycle back, all that intense emotions comes out, emotionally, sexually in its fullness.I think this type of relationship is very rare. Both partners are polar opposite while they core system almost identical. Its very hard to put in words. It's very similar to narcissistic type of relationship and can be mistaken easily because the ego battle involves lots of controlling and jealousy but what makes it still different is you feel subconsciously below those battles there is tremendous amount of love and not stop fighting for each other. You can't just give up on each other. Both of you know it is something unique and worth to hold onto. Those times when love and compassion dominate, there is high synchronisation and psychic connection. The mirroring also amplified in sex, both partner experience togetherness trust and fully open,extremely responsive and reflection of your own passion and feelings back to you. Honestly I had good relationships in my life and been always passionate but this is something out of this world.
Posted by NemDeuxAs I never been in such relationship before I did lots of research on the signatures of these relationships
what has pluto got to do with this?
Twin flame, plutonic, and narcissist - empath Relationships are very similar in character
Especially the first two phases,
The lovebombing of the narcissist and the bubble phase of the twin flames identical,
Then the plutonic push pull, the twin flame runner - chaser and the narcissist devaluation phase is also almost identical. Push pull, power struggle, controlling, jealousy etc.
The npd, borderline case no empathy involved so that relationship continues to cycle unless the narcissist discard, or the other party escape. The plutonic case also most of the time can't deal with the intensity, they break up. The twin flame case is different in outcome because there both turns internal to deal with the issues and recognition over what's going on.
Posted by NemDeuxSoulmates also karmic been told. The major difference is the soulmate relationships are much smoother, and compassionate. The twin flame relationships involves lots of pain until recognition of the importance or clarity why they so much want each other. Soulmate relationship not as challenging and involves less growth individually also the intensity is much less than twin flames or even plutonic in my opinion.Posted by Virgooosounds like a narc/co-dependent relationship.
I recently found out what a twin flame is. And I've been dealing with a guy for 3 years who I believe is my twin flame.
The synchronicity is very real. But whenever we get together is so push pull. If it's not from me it's from him
I know in order for these relationships to work both parties must learn to love themselves first. And I am now working on that.
How to know the difference between that karmic and false twin relationships?
About twin flame relationships
https://thoughtcatalog.com/brianna-wiest/2016/09/18-signs-youre-experiencing-whats-known-as-a-twin-flame-relationship/
ambivalence can cause a lot of ...confusion.
in other words: i am not a believer in such things.
my best friend and i have the best kind of relationship i have ever experienced. our foundation is: mutual respect and trust. we share many things in common; many not; there is no rivalry or envy. we do have bouts of mutual withdrawal; but never with malice intent. we are both busy with work; life etc. that is the furthest i can stretch to call it souly/karmic. but who knows really eh?
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I had soulmate type relationship previously it was almost no argument at all, compassionate relationship. It was nothing like this intensity and madness been through but also this made me growth so rapidly I couldn't believe also the passion is unbearable
Posted by NemDeuxVery much right. Even the planets pluto touches are extremely important in synastryPosted by Sheeveri'm barely a novice in astrology ...so it would be interesting to look at pluto in the charts of a couple? or the aspects? i thought it was a generational planetary position ....ofc i am probably very mistaken.Posted by NemDeuxAs I never been in such relationship before I did lots of research on the signatures of these relationships
what has pluto got to do with this?
Twin flame, plutonic, and narcissist - empath Relationships are very similar in character
Especially the first two phases,
The lovebombing of the narcissist and the bubble phase of the twin flames identical,
Then the plutonic push pull, the twin flame runner - chaser and the narcissist devaluation phase is also almost identical. Push pull, power struggle, controlling, jealousy etc.
The npd, borderline case no empathy involved so that relationship continues to cycle unless the narcissist discard, or the other party escape. The plutonic case also most of the time can't deal with the intensity, they break up. The twin flame case is different in outcome because there both turns internal to deal with the issues and recognition over what's going on.click to expand
For instance sun square pluto is soulmate type contact and challenging obviously but different aspects been challenged and happening associated with.
We have pluto opposition my venus, and my moon also plutonic in my natal and I trine her venus back. Its not the same but interesting aspects if you understand. We have North node, ascendant, and chiron vs pluto contacts which are all major aspects and seem to be fated. Especially north node and chiron
Posted by greylaternVery good explanationPosted by NemDeuxPluto connection can bring a intense desire/possessiveness feeling. You actually feel a pull that makes you think " fate" and "soulmate". The truth is it can be just that because Pluto "likes to destroy and push in order to recreate" or "make you more aware of yourself through extremes". Ever been draw to someone to the point of obsession and you hyper focus? Also soulmate thing is interesting concept. There isn't just one kind and definitely not just one. Anyone in life you feel a deep connection too and bring change to your life by definition is a soulmate. Positive or negative change is a matter of perception and how you respond to the stimulation.
what has pluto got to do with this?
Twins is suppose to be the ultimate form of this and much more intense and deeper. In order for the relationship to work in requires a great deal of self work and recognization and release of the ego.
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Posted by pisceswoman123Well puted, at the beggining you have no idea what you re fallen into, and there is no escape from it. I was about to give up 6 times, on the edge but no chance. First 5months absolute harmony lots of love, then things gets deep and you feel so vulnerable like never before. You fully in, nothing kept away from the other and it just deepen and deepen. The potential to loss the other is unbearable, and it start drives up all. Nastiness. Not speaking for days but you both under the intensity you literally can't have a minute of peace no matter if you around the other or not. When the cycle flips its beautiful, fullness in everything, amazing sex but also no intensity drops at all. Sex is greatly varies but mostly primal passion, agressive sometimes but it comes from the hurt expressed somewhat beautiful way. Tendency of hurt each other for being hurt even when loved due the emotions overwhelming. Few days heaven then starts all. Over again. You can't get away from it, you start analyse wtf is going on, is so nothing like you ever experienced before. I researched months and was difficult to keep sanity over the situation. In the meanwhile no intensity dropped, just gone even deeper. Never been hurt so much but later on I realised each time we fight I instantly get mirrored back also I mirror her back. All has to do with ego and expectations. Due the psychic - telepathic type connection both of you sense the other and know what the others feel, and act upon. Due the mirroring is constantly ongoing you have no luck to drop focus, the magnetic pull is so great you always pulled into detect what the other is on about. This causes great mistunderstandings because you detect the intention but the real cause comes from within where the ego rebels against the other responses. When you cat take no more hurt you give up or surrender and look inward where you realise it was you hurt yourself by want each other to be someone who you want them to be based on the ego agenda how is supposed to be. This pushes you to break the ego down, and realise what is really going on. Imagine it affects all aspects of your understanding and beliefs about love, relationships, sex and other subjects concerned in life. Transform you totally for a better by just accept and let go things doest serve you and the relationship anymore. It's may sounds easy but not so much as all your lifetime experience you function on has to transform down to the very core.even tough these fights, instead of getting away from the relationship you trust each other more and love deeper each day. Since day one the whole relationship feels fated, your other half just like yourself in opposite sex. The responses everything just unreal but feels extremely natural, you both feel each other native and strong fundamental trust. It doesn't matter what type or how we name this. I am greatful to happen, and experience it.Posted by SheeverIt’s sounds amazing 😄 Crazy, but amazing
Just a quick update
extremely interesting relationship,plutonic or not, I think it's very familiar to twin flame relationship if it succeed a breakthrough.
From my experience lately, I came to the realisation of that, my partner and I were mirror of each other. We had a vicious cycle of pull push due hurt each other and love each other phases while the love and bond were very strong. That's made us keep up with the process without breaking up. All of our buttons were pushed to extreme but those periods with full of love and compassion balanced out the ego battle and let hold on to the process. From my side I went through a serious ego breakdown for the better. I think it's takes lots of maturity and emotional strength to pass that stage to eventually letting go things and see the fact that you love that person more than your false ego agenda about how everything supposed to work out based in your selfish point of view. Because at the end is boils down about your expectations how the relationship should look like. Instead just let it be. Once you able to let go, it shines. Your partner as well feels it, and everything becomes smooth. Even there is some argument both of you more aware of the situation and each other role of the mirroring. Wonderful thing. Extremely intense and passionate, sometimes it's so much you have to break away from each other because can not be handled the emotions are overwhelming. When you re apart you can't stop thinking about the other and constantly check on them and they do to you. When you cycle back, all that intense emotions comes out, emotionally, sexually in its fullness.I think this type of relationship is very rare. Both partners are polar opposite while they core system almost identical. Its very hard to put in words. It's very similar to narcissistic type of relationship and can be mistaken easily because the ego battle involves lots of controlling and jealousy but what makes it still different is you feel subconsciously below those battles there is tremendous amount of love and not stop fighting for each other. You can't just give up on each other. Both of you know it is something unique and worth to hold onto. Those times when love and compassion dominate, there is high synchronisation and psychic connection. The mirroring also amplified in sex, both partner experience togetherness trust and fully open,extremely responsive and reflection of your own passion and feelings back to you. Honestly I had good relationships in my life and been always passionate but this is something out of this world.
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Posted by ImpulsvNo its not, however if you look into all these types of relationships you see the familiarity
Unfunny u mention narcassist relationship
I know someone been in narcissist -codependent relationship for years, not fun.
In all cases the involved parties start searching because it's not usual intensity regardless which one you dealing with.
Wow haven't been on here for days. I'm glad to see the input everyone's put in!
My feelings for this guy is still there. No matter what I try to do or what I do to keep myself busy. And nobody I meet i have any connection with.
I've talked to friends to family and I've even considered getting help. I feel hopeless that i cannot let go.
Recently he contacted me and wants to see me. But I've been trying to hold back as much as i can. He jokes around but you can tell by his jokes he's still a bit bitter about the past. (Ghosting him. Blocking him.) I need to face him eventually
My feelings for this guy is still there. No matter what I try to do or what I do to keep myself busy. And nobody I meet i have any connection with.
I've talked to friends to family and I've even considered getting help. I feel hopeless that i cannot let go.
Recently he contacted me and wants to see me. But I've been trying to hold back as much as i can. He jokes around but you can tell by his jokes he's still a bit bitter about the past. (Ghosting him. Blocking him.) I need to face him eventually
Posted by VirgoooI've met my twin flame. If he's really yours then you won't be able to let him go. Give it another try!! Most people aren't lucky enough to experience it hence all the negative comments...
Wow haven't been on here for days. I'm glad to see the input everyone's put in!
My feelings for this guy is still there. No matter what I try to do or what I do to keep myself busy. And nobody I meet i have any connection with.
I've talked to friends to family and I've even considered getting help. I feel hopeless that i cannot let go.
Recently he contacted me and wants to see me. But I've been trying to hold back as much as i can. He jokes around but you can tell by his jokes he's still a bit bitter about the past. (Ghosting him. Blocking him.) I need to face him eventually
Thanks. Will do. Of course I will proceed cautiously lol
Posted by VirgoooGood luck dear, it will take a lot of hard work but it'll be worth it, always look inside yourself
Thanks. Will do. Of course I will proceed cautiously lol
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