Libra boyfriend thinks I’m selfish if I don’t loan him money

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Hi

I feel so ashamed posting this. I know I should’ve dumped my Libra man a long time ago but I’m stupid and I have forgiven him many times since I sincerely love him but I don’t think he loves me at all.

He is really bad with his finances and the first person he asks for money whenever he’s short is me. We keep our finances separately. I’ve helped him many times and he always pays me back but I’m tired of him never having his own savings and always asking for $ $ $ like I’m an ATM machine.

Since we live together, when the rent was due this past month, he told me to wait 2 weeks because he didn’t had the money ready for the rent. We pay 50/50 of the rent. The electric bill was also due which he pays because I pay for other bills and I had to help him pay that too besides the rent. Just when he finally payed me back, my boyfriend had no shame and asked me again if I could lend him money because he did something stupid and damaged his phone!! Now he has no phone and no money to buy another one. He’s acting offended because I was firm and told him I was not giving him more money.

Just now we were talking and I told him I don’t want him to get into the habit of asking me for money when he should have his own savings. He told me: “then why do I have a partner if I can’t count on you?” According to him, I’m the bad guy of the situation. Is it okay for me to be selfish and not let him take advantage of me? It’s not my fault that his phone doesn’t work and that he doesn’t have money for a new one.
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Posted by Rainbow87

I know I should’ve dumped my Libra man a long time ago but I’m stupid and I have forgiven him many times since I sincerely love him but I don’t think he loves me at all.

Unfortunately, until you do not take firm decision to break up with this guy (and based on what you have said, it will be extremely hard, he seems like a person to stalk, beg and put on a shit show and you as a Cancer can not detach and help yourself with savior complex), no one can help.

There is a reason this proverb exists: "There is no point in offering a helping hand to someone who wants to drown".
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Quit treating your relationship like therapy. It's gross that he uses you, but it's also gross that you keep him around for stupid reasons, such as making you feel wanted, because you're using him as much as he's using you.

He's clearly not relationship material and is only looking for mommy #2. Dude's a mooch. Libra mooches aren't ones to keep around. This type of Libra only sees people as a means to an end for them and everyone serves a purpose in their life. You're nothing but a second caretaker to him.

You admit to taking him back stupidly, but like someone else mentioned, you're asking.... what, exactly? For someone to say "aw poor baby?" I mean really, "Should I be selfish and say no?" Dahell kind of dysfunctional bullshit is that? You need to seek professional help if you think telling someone "no" is being selfish when they're selfishly taking advantage of you.

Grow a pair and ditch the loser. If you had a friend who had a user/loser boyfriend like this, you'd want them to ditch the loser. Why is it different when it's yourself?
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I used to be in your situation…

I’m a Cancer rising. people lining up to take advantage of me. One man/woman after another always asking me for money. People I know, barely know.

I was getting my hair done one day and this guy walks into the salon, and asks me for money in front of the whole salon. He wasn’t even a bum. But for some reason he was drawn to me. I said no and I could tell he was angry.

There was a sag who asked me for money to pay his phone bill. The night before he told me he loved me. So I was immediately suspicious.

It got to a point where I didn’t care about others feelings and me not being liked by them. I’m going to stick up for myself and I don’t care if it means I will have zero friends. People should enjoy me for me and I shouldn’t have to give them money in order to be liked.

I flat out accused the sag of trying to manipulate me with love to get money and how he wasn’t shyt for it. He apologized and swore up and down that I was misled blah blah blah but guess what, he no longer asks me for money.

Some people will use my caring nurturing nature against me and I have to be cautious of that.

Put your foot down and get to the heart of his financial woes.

Plenty of people hiring so he can pick up an extra shift
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Depends on why he is financially strained.

Does he make less then you (or got his hours and/or pay cut during the pandemic) and the rent and bills are more then his salary can handle? Or is he hiding an onlyfans and online gambling addiction?

If its the first... yes help him. He is your partner and even when things are 50/50 they are never truly 50/50. Sometimes one person picks up the slack. But part of that comes with you both sitting down to come up with a plan to stretch his income or have him contribute in other ways to the household.

If its the second then his priorities aren't right. You've hitched your wagon to a donkey instead of a stallion and he's got 3 lame legs. Gotta pay your rent and bills before anything else, this is just part of adulting. Nobody wants to parent their partner, nothing kills the romance faster.

I'm not going to tell you to dump him over one negative. You should decide that for yourself.
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Posted by Rainbow87

Hi

I feel so ashamed posting this. I know I should’ve dumped my Libra man a long time ago but I’m stupid and I have forgiven him many times since I sincerely love him but I don’t think he loves me at all.

He is really bad with his finances and the first person he asks for money whenever he’s short is me. We keep our finances separately. I’ve helped him many times and he always pays me back but I’m tired of him never having his own savings and always asking for $ $ $ like I’m an ATM machine.

Since we live together, when the rent was due this past month, he told me to wait 2 weeks because he didn’t had the money ready for the rent. We pay 50/50 of the rent. The electric bill was also due which he pays because I pay for other bills and I had to help him pay that too besides the rent. Just when he finally payed me back, my boyfriend had no shame and asked me again if I could lend him money because he did something stupid and damaged his phone!! Now he has no phone and no money to buy another one. He’s acting offended because I was firm and told him I was not giving him more money.

Just now we were talking and I told him I don’t want him to get into the habit of asking me for money when he should have his own savings. He told me: “then why do I have a partner if I can’t count on you?” According to him, I’m the bad guy of the situation. Is it okay for me to be selfish and not let him take advantage of me? It’s not my fault that his phone doesn’t work and that he doesn’t have money for a new one.

Read your post history. There are plenty of reasons to break up. This is the same guy who insults you and sleeps on the couch right?

After that look into your codependency issues. Fear of being alone and people being displeased with you. Do you value yourself that little?
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Depends on why he is financially strained.

Does he make less then you (or got his hours and/or pay cut during the pandemic) and the rent and bills are more then his salary can handle? Or is he hiding an onlyfans and online gambling addiction?

If its the first... yes help him. He is your partner and even when things are 50/50 they are never truly 50/50. Sometimes one person picks up the slack. But part of that comes with you both sitting down to come up with a plan to stretch his income or have him contribute in other ways to the household.

If its the second then his priorities aren't right. You've hitched your wagon to a donkey instead of a stallion and he's got 3 lame legs. Gotta pay your rent and bills before anything else, this is just part of adulting. Nobody wants to parent their partner, nothing kills the romance faster.

I'm not going to tell you to dump him over one negative. You should decide that for yourself.

If he's hung like a donkey no wonder she's still with him.
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Posted by Rainbow87

He has a stable job so there’s no excuse for him not to have money. The problem is that he doesn’t know how to busget and manage it well. He never saves a penny so when there’s an emergency, it seems like I’m his only option since I take care of my money and have my savings. I’ve helped him many times but enough is enough. He has no shame to ask.


I think if he expects you to be his bank and loan him money every month then you can claim bank privilege's of charging him interest and having access to his financials to see what he is spending and where he is spending. Its only fair
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On one hand, he’s right. Why are you together if you’re not going to be there for the other person. It all feels wrong because he’s a grown ass man asking a woman for money.

Maybe find out why he is so financially strained all the time. Help him make a budget. How much money is he bringing in versus going out.

Where is his money going?

Wait a minute, how isn't he the partner that's not there for her? Fucking your partner over financially every week or month is not being there for them lol. That's really letting them down.
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If you’re in a relationship with someone, you help them out.

If you don’t want to help them out, you leave the relationship.

He is there for her, all she is complaining about is money. He probably feels like he’s picking up the slack in other areas.
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Posted by Rainbow87

He has a stable job so there’s no excuse for him not to have money. The problem is that he doesn’t know how to busget and manage it well. He never saves a penny so when there’s an emergency, it seems like I’m his only option since I take care of my money and have my savings. I’ve helped him many times but enough is enough. He has no shame to ask.

What does he spend his money on?
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He doesn’t tell me specifically how he spends his money. He’s a lot older than me and with sons from a previous relationship! But his sons are not children anymore. The youngest is 18 and the oldest 24. He still supports his sons. The youngest doesn’t work and has a girlfriend. My BF actually gives his son money to take his girlfriend out on dates. I have told him his son should become financially independent but he says he’s too “young” and needs to focus on school. So I’m sure a big part of his money goes to his adult sons. If he wants to continue supporting them that’s fine but he needs to pay his bills and not ask me when he rans out of money.

He has not specifically told me how much he gives his sons monthly. If he’s on a tight budget, his sons are fully capable of working. They could help out.
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Are you kidding me—— This guy constantly borrows money from you and you've never asked him what he is doing with his money?? Why not? He stopped sleeping with you 7 months ago and you're still helping him financially? Girl what is wrong with you? He's using you. For all you know he could be spending HIS money on another woman and you're picking up the slack. No, just HELL NO.
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Posted by _elle_

11 months ago he started calling you names.

7 months ago he stopped sleeping with you and started sleeping on the couch unless he wanted sex.

Now he is getting upset you don't give him money (These are not loans)

Imo, you are in an abusive toxic relationship and as codependent on him as he is you.

It's time to make a plan to exit this mess.


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Posted by Rainbow87

He doesn’t tell me specifically how he spends his money. He’s a lot older than me and with sons from a previous relationship! But his sons are not children anymore. The youngest is 18 and the oldest 24. He still supports his sons. The youngest doesn’t work and has a girlfriend. My BF actually gives his son money to take his girlfriend out on dates. I have told him his son should become financially independent but he says he’s too “young” and needs to focus on school. So I’m sure a big part of his money goes to his adult sons. If he wants to continue supporting them that’s fine but he needs to pay his bills and not ask me when he rans out of money.

He has not specifically told me how much he gives his sons monthly. If he’s on a tight budget, his sons are fully capable of working. They could help out.

Makes sense
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On one hand, he’s right. Why are you together if you’re not going to be there for the other person. It all feels wrong because he’s a grown ass man asking a woman for money.

Maybe find out why he is so financially strained all the time. Help him make a budget. How much money is he bringing in versus going out.

Where is his money going?

Wait a minute, how isn't he the partner that's not there for her? Fucking your partner over financially every week or month is not being there for them lol. That's really letting them down.

If you’re in a relationship with someone, you help them out.

If you don’t want to help them out, you leave the relationship.

He is there for her, all she is complaining about is money. He probably feels like he’s picking up the slack in other areas.

Depends on what you define as “helping out”. Bc if you define helping out to be an ATM machine at his every whim… then I fully disagree with you.

If helping out means teach him to save money and stop depending on gfriend and done become his ENABLER… then I agree - we should help each other out in relationships 🙃.

Also - not a good idea to assume so much. We really don’t know how he behaves overall.
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Well you are selfish.

You got into a relationship and expected him to be equal to you in finances and everything, but he clearly doesn’t make enough or have enough to equate to you.

If it was him being the breadwinner, you would call him selfish and feel he didn’t love you if he expected you to pay him back every $ he loaned you. You’d call him cheap.

Don’t date someone who can’t bring the money equal to yours and expect them to keep up.

You pick someone who needs you to be the breadwinner. That’s on you.

Break up with him if you don’t want to provide for him.
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Posted by Rainbow87

He doesn’t tell me specifically how he spends his money. He’s a lot older than me and with sons from a previous relationship! But his sons are not children anymore. The youngest is 18 and the oldest 24. He still supports his sons. The youngest doesn’t work and has a girlfriend. My BF actually gives his son money to take his girlfriend out on dates. ....

Correction, he give his sons your money....
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Posted by Rainbow87

He doesn’t tell me specifically how he spends his money. He’s a lot older than me and with sons from a previous relationship! But his sons are not children anymore. The youngest is 18 and the oldest 24. He still supports his sons. The youngest doesn’t work and has a girlfriend. My BF actually gives his son money to take his girlfriend out on dates. ....

Correction, he give his sons your money....

24 and still getting pocket money. I had a job at 16 doing weekends, I was at 6th form college in the week and still found time to have a few sherberts (pints of beer, not cocaine) on a weekend. I didn't ask my parents for money as I would feel like a prick. Humility is a virtue.
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I was the same. Worked on weekends and holidays when I was a teenager. My parents never paid for my weekends out or the things I wanted from 16.
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Well, I don’t know what else to say at this point. I think I’m being fair with my boyfriend as far as his financial share. His only payments are half of the rent, the electric bill and groceries. That’s it. I pay the other half of the rent, the rest of the bills and my car, which he sometimes uses because he doesn’t have his own. And I make a little less money than him. It’s not a huge difference but it’s still less.

I know my BF sounds like a loser but he was totally different when I met him. Now he has shown his true colors. As far as his sons, he does spend money on them! One time he’s youngest son stayed with us for a week and every single day he would buy him food from outside. Whatever he desired even though BF was on a tight budget. I don’t think it was necessary to eat out EVERY day when we have food at home. And then he ran out of money and asked me if I could lend him money to buy his precious boy a chicken from some random fast food place. Sometimes all I could do is stay quiet because when I mention that his sons need to be financially independent, he gets pretty defensive. But I will be firm in not lending him more money and I will consider breaking up since his sons are # 1 in his life and he already showed it.
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Well, I don’t know what else to say at this point. I think I’m being fair with my boyfriend as far as his financial share. His only payments are half of the rent, the electric bill and groceries. That’s it. I pay the other half of the rent, the rest of the bills and my car, which he sometimes uses because he doesn’t have his own. And I make a little less money than him. It’s not a huge difference but it’s still less.

I know my BF sounds like a loser but he was totally different when I met him. Now he has shown his true colors. As far as his sons, he does spend money on them! One time he’s youngest son stayed with us for a week and every single day he would buy him food from outside. Whatever he desired even though BF was on a tight budget. I don’t think it was necessary to eat out EVERY day when we have food at home. And then he ran out of money and asked me if I could lend him money to buy his precious boy a chicken from some random fast food place. Sometimes all I could do is stay quiet because when I mention that his sons need to be financially independent, he gets pretty defensive. But I will be firm in not lending him more money and I will consider breaking up since his sons are # 1 in his life and he already showed it.

This is twisted.

You will consider breaking up with him "because his sons are #1 in his life" but won't consider breaking up with him because he is a verbally and emotionally abusive squatting moocher who is clearly taking advantage of you?

Meh, stay with him. 🙄
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I wouldn’t even go on one date with a bloke that didn’t put his kids first 😐
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I don't believe for a minute he is giving his money to his sons. He's giving you a bunch of bullshit. Libra thinks he's clever.


I agree. But the best lies usually have a grain of truth. So when he says he gives money to his 24yr old son to take girls on dates my mind instantly thought, naw he's spending that money taking girls on dates himself.
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I don't believe for a minute he is giving his money to his sons. He's giving you a bunch of bullshit. Libra thinks he's clever.

I agree. But the best lies usually have a grain of truth. So when he says he gives money to his 24yr old son to take girls on dates my mind instantly thought, naw he's spending that money taking girls on dates himself.

Would be weird if they were dating the same girl. Especially if she wants to try a threesome. 🥴
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Talk about a great family bonding activity amiright
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I don't believe for a minute he is giving his money to his sons. He's giving you a bunch of bullshit. Libra thinks he's clever.

I agree. But the best lies usually have a grain of truth. So when he says he gives money to his 24yr old son to take girls on dates my mind instantly thought, naw he's spending that money taking girls on dates himself.
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Yes that sounds more like what a Libra man would do. They rarely deprive themselves.
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Well, I don’t know what else to say at this point. I think I’m being fair with my boyfriend as far as his financial share. His only payments are half of the rent, the electric bill and groceries. That’s it. I pay the other half of the rent, the rest of the bills and my car, which he sometimes uses because he doesn’t have his own. And I make a little less money than him. It’s not a huge difference but it’s still less.

I know my BF sounds like a loser but he was totally different when I met him. Now he has shown his true colors. As far as his sons, he does spend money on them! One time he’s youngest son stayed with us for a week and every single day he would buy him food from outside. Whatever he desired even though BF was on a tight budget. I don’t think it was necessary to eat out EVERY day when we have food at home. And then he ran out of money and asked me if I could lend him money to buy his precious boy a chicken from some random fast food place. Sometimes all I could do is stay quiet because when I mention that his sons need to be financially independent, he gets pretty defensive. But I will be firm in not lending him more money and I will consider breaking up since his sons are # 1 in his life and he already showed it.


His kids are supposed to be number #1 in his life at any age.

But yes, I agree, since he has money to spend when he wants to, you should stop lending it to him. Play "broke" so he can be independent, just like you think he should be teaching his sons to be.

So start saying you don't have the money to lend.

How can a father teach his sons anything when he's not that way?
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Posted by Rainbow87

Well, I don’t know what else to say at this point. I think I’m being fair with my boyfriend as far as his financial share. His only payments are half of the rent, the electric bill and groceries. That’s it. I pay the other half of the rent, the rest of the bills and my car, which he sometimes uses because he doesn’t have his own. And I make a little less money than him. It’s not a huge difference but it’s still less.

I know my BF sounds like a loser but he was totally different when I met him. Now he has shown his true colors. As far as his sons, he does spend money on them! One time he’s youngest son stayed with us for a week and every single day he would buy him food from outside. Whatever he desired even though BF was on a tight budget. I don’t think it was necessary to eat out EVERY day when we have food at home. And then he ran out of money and asked me if I could lend him money to buy his precious boy a chicken from some random fast food place. Sometimes all I could do is stay quiet because when I mention that his sons need to be financially independent, he gets pretty defensive. But I will be firm in not lending him more money and I will consider breaking up since his sons are # 1 in his life and he already showed it.

Libras are usually very generous towards the people they love. I mean he's generous towards his sons but then go to you for money. He's just using you.

You said he was different in the beginning. Well could be that he was infatuated with you at that point but he's not anymore which is why he changed.

The person he is now is the person he really is. I don't want to hurt your feelings but sometimes it's better to accept the truth than keep going on with some unrealistic expectations that the other person will change back to how they were before. He won't I can tell you that. 100% sure he won't.
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Posted by DonnaLibra

Are you kidding me—— This guy constantly borrows money from you and you've never asked him what he is doing with his money?? Why not? He stopped sleeping with you 7 months ago and you're still helping him financially? Girl what is wrong with you? He's using you. For all you know he could be spending HIS money on another woman and you're picking up the slack. No, just HELL NO.




Finally someone with sense.