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There are always tons of women who are complaining about their exes who treats their next wifes better.

I am listening to it and figuring out...

Using my own as an example...

Men mature with age right? Yes they do! That youngster you married 20 years ago is 45-50 now!

He is not going to the bars so often and you raised kids but then something happened and you got divorce!

In a year he showing up with this woman whom he seems adore and it is driving you crazy!!!

Why did she get what I made without even trying— He is my best creation and she haven't went trough the shit with him! The hardest thing she does is taking 10 hours flight to Hawaii!!!

And I figured it happens because you ladies are not recognizing mans maturity factor!!!

You give up when they need warmth!

Sex. Intimacy. But you are so wrapped into hate for 'what he did on past' - so you watch another woman benefits from your work!

Maybe just think about it...
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


there is always someone else even when s/he does not tell
Obviously i disagree but not much can be said.

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yes i agree to disagree

if it's not a serious commitment, there can be many reasons to leave. but when it's a 10, 20, 30 years marriage when you have tied your everything together for so long, the heart would need extra strength to change the status quo

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Posted by Gemitati
There are always tons of women who are complaining about their exes who treats their next wifes better.

I am listening to it and figuring out...

Using my own as an example...

Men mature with age right? Yes they do! That youngster you married 20 years ago is 45-50 now!

He is not going to the bars so often and you raised kids but then something happened and you got divorce!

In a year he showing up with this woman whom he seems adore and it is driving you crazy!!!

Why did she get what I made without even trying— He is my best creation and she haven't went trough the shit with him! The hardest thing she does is taking 10 hours flight to Hawaii!!!

And I figured it happens because you ladies are not recognizing mans maturity factor!!!

You give up when they need warmth!

Sex. Intimacy. But you are so wrapped into hate for 'what he did on past' - so you watch another woman benefits from your work!

Maybe just think about it...
i thought you want to be the scorp's 2nd wife? would you be able to put yourself in her shoes why she wouldn't let him go regardless whether it's coming from the right place?
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You give up when they need warmth!

Sex. Intimacy. But you are so wrapped into hate for 'what he did on past' - so you watch another woman benefits from your work!

Maybe just think about it...
i do agree with this part

There should be consistent and conscious efforts to nurture and protect the love and marriage. It's unfortunate that it is human nature to take another for granted until too late
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Gemitati ...you made a turd. Your husband is a fucking turd. It's time you flushed him away.



This is the one who went off with strippers right? Yeah no improvements were made ...he is a piece of shit.


Oh right. And now I'm back to having no sympathy for the husband again.

Waiting for the nasty reply from Gemi in 3...2...1...
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I don't get it...

Stripper was my idea but HOW do you remember?
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Gemitati ...you made a turd. Your husband is a fucking turd. It's time you flushed him away.



This is the one who went off with strippers right? Yeah no improvements were made ...he is a piece of shit.


Oh right. And now I'm back to having no sympathy for the husband again.

Waiting for the nasty reply from Gemi in 3...2...1...
I don't get it...

Stripper was my idea but HOW do you remember?
Because I keep deleting like a little bitch.

Anyway, it doesn't take a detective. I'm obvious, and I wrote it in my profile.
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Sorry I don't get it
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Gemitati ...you made a turd. Your husband is a fucking turd. It's time you flushed him away.



This is the one who went off with strippers right? Yeah no improvements were made ...he is a piece of shit.


Oh right. And now I'm back to having no sympathy for the husband again.

Waiting for the nasty reply from Gemi in 3...2...1...
I don't get it...

Stripper was my idea but HOW do you remember?
Because I keep deleting like a little bitch.

Anyway, it doesn't take a detective. I'm obvious, and I wrote it in my profile.
In fairness ...THAT story is not one you forget!
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Posted by Seraphlight
Gemitati ...you made a turd. Your husband is a fucking turd. It's time you flushed him away.



This is the one who went off with strippers right? Yeah no improvements were made ...he is a piece of shit.


Oh right. And now I'm back to having no sympathy for the husband again.

Waiting for the nasty reply from Gemi in 3...2...1...
I don't get it...

Stripper was my idea but HOW do you remember?
Because I keep deleting like a little bitch.

Anyway, it doesn't take a detective. I'm obvious, and I wrote it in my profile.
In fairness ...THAT story is not one you forget!
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Unless you have life...
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.

oh so this is just about when a man leaves?

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Read the op's op.
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.



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I suppose.

Also equally hard to see another so easily fulfill his needs and him to be seemingly genuinely happy when you've dedicated your life to the same and haven't gotten those results. Makes those 20 odd years seem pointless. And leaves you floundering to find your purpose.

Or so I've been told.
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
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He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?

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Maybe just impotent when it comes to the thought of fucking you. He must subconsciously and intuitively know another man is spunking in his woman's vagina.

Maybe he has his own 'scorpio' who rides that dick and makes him cum HARD and OFTEN. He pays for the hotel room with cash so you'll never know

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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
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Not quiet right. She is working. Kids are all grown up. She did her part beautifully.

I know the kids! But they love him because he is fun and kind and she is kind of dry/bitchy type...not that I say she shouldn't be after ALL!!!

So they adore their no good (I'm her opinion) father whom she also wants to keep is spite or for status! Or for his money he now makes!

And I DO understand that!!!
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


Maybe just impotent when it comes to the thought of fucking you. He must subconsciously and intuitively know another man is spunking in his woman's vagina.

Maybe he has his own 'scorpio' who rides that dick and makes him cum HARD and OFTEN. He pays for the hotel room with cash so you'll never know



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Trust me idiot! I would be HAPPY idiot was the case! I want him to try another woman! I had offered him freedom to find one! He doesn't want to! He loves me!

He is just unable...though he tries...

Doctor gave him Cialis. But you can't drink and 'drive' but he likes his vodka and food and sport on TV!

So...slapping my butt and a quizzing my boobs is enough sex for him!

Wait...you'll be there! Unless no one will stand you for so long for your 'nice and sunny' disposition! Lol
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.




I suppose.

Also equally hard to see another so easily fulfill his needs and him to be seemingly genuinely happy when you've dedicated your life to the same and haven't gotten those results. Makes those 20 old years seem pointless. And leaves you floundering to find your purpose.

Or so I've been told.
Fair enough. I suppose I haven't spoken with many people who put in that amount of time into a relationship/marriage and come out the other end like that, so I can see how that would be tough too.

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My frame of reference is very limited as well. I know three ladies in their early 40s to late 50s who put in 15+ years with their now ex husbands.

The one whoose coped the best is the one who had a job/career. The other two really struggled because they were stay at home moms and didn't have anything to throw themselves into when they split up (kids were grown and moved out at that point).

Sense of identity is vital to your sense of wellbeing.

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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
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You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.



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I would love my husband to have replacement for me! He is just too frogging lazy! Why would he even try if everytjing is going his way!

Honey...WE need to....

meaning I (honey) NEED

TO DO SOMETIING...
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I think everything in life is temporary. What you desire being twenty isn't the same you need being fourty. People change. Being married for a decade or more you may find you're being with a whole different person compared to the one you started with. Plus, every relationship is different. The next person may face different troubles or none.

Till death does us part is quite a long period of time I just can't commit to. So I'm honest about it and say I'm not made for marriage.
And you will never know! Until you've tried!

You might find the best and be until death do you part! Don't say that. Marriages are all different.

Some people I knew re-married and still happy as clams at 75!

Hey! They had tried and decided my old

One was better!!!
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.




I suppose.

Also equally hard to see another so easily fulfill his needs and him to be seemingly genuinely happy when you've dedicated your life to the same and haven't gotten those results. Makes those 20 old years seem pointless. And leaves you floundering to find your purpose.

Or so I've been told.
Fair enough. I suppose I haven't spoken with many people who put in that amount of time into a relationship/marriage and come out the other end like that, so I can see how that would be tough too.


My frame of reference is very limited as well. I know three ladies in their early 40s to late 50s who put in 15+ years with their now ex husbands.

The one whoose coped the best is the one who had a job/career. The other two really struggled because they were stay at home moms and didn't have anything to throw themselves into when they split up (kids were grown and moved out at that point).

Sense of identity is vital to your sense of wellbeing.

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So? What's your point?

I don't meet to support myself if I end up with my Scorpio.

He wouldn't allow it. He does everything himself! From fking to cooking!

And loving it. Spin want to take load off his shoulders and have him come home to a dimmer that he doesn't have to cook!
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
Well, I don't know. I do know that he has neglected you and made you feel bad for many years before Mr. Scorpio came along, so maybe you resent him too much to let him be happy. Maybe on some deep level you need for him to pay for what he did. Maybe it goes further back than him. Were you allowed to love who you wanted to love? Were you allowed to pursue your dreams?

I found myself at the beginning of your situation, but I didn't go through with it. Still, I got to feel some of the shame and guilt. But THEN, I got angry. Forty years of being a good person, working hard, doing what people ask, putting my own needs aside, trying trying trying, crying crying crying, and then getting so tired and hard, I didn't even cry anymore. And after all that, one mistake that I thought would make me happy ruined who I was to everyone? Who I am is no longer who I was? Good? Reliable? Hardworking? Loving? Trustworthy?

I imagine if I stayed in limbo like that, where you are, I'd grow to resent the fuck out of everyone else for judging me. Because I'm human, and I just want to be happy like everyone else.
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Ok. My husband is a wonderful person at heart. His mother and aunt who worshiped him died when I was 3 mo pregnant.

I took role of 3 women and spoiled him worse than they did.

He never hurt me. However after years of happy together he started to take me for granted. I didn't mind being young however about 10 years ago I started to wonder. I was 40 and something started to be not enough.

I was getting tired of carrying shopping bags home while he was slowly getting out of the car so he has one trip with bags instead of 2 because I had already done 3!

Nothing and I mean NO THING done by h around the house!

All phone calls and everything is on me.

I started to mind it probably because i was getting older! And tired!

And 8 years ago I've met a Scorpio.

I wasn't looking! Never! It happened!

Man who is me but male...

And I saw man who does it all! We are still joking that if we end up together we will fight about who does what because we do it all! So if it comes to cooking - you cut - I fry! Or out the door! Lol

So you said 40 years? Wow!
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
Well, I don't know. I do know that he has neglected you and made you feel bad for many years before Mr. Scorpio came along, so maybe you resent him too much to let him be happy. Maybe on some deep level you need for him to pay for what he did. Maybe it goes further back than him. Were you allowed to love who you wanted to love? Were you allowed to pursue your dreams?

I found myself at the beginning of your situation, but I didn't go through with it. Still, I got to feel some of the shame and guilt. But THEN, I got angry. Forty years of being a good person, working hard, doing what people ask, putting my own needs aside, trying trying trying, crying crying crying, and then getting so tired and hard, I didn't even cry anymore. And after all that, one mistake that I thought would make me happy ruined who I was to everyone? Who I am is no longer who I was? Good? Reliable? Hardworking? Loving? Trustworthy?

I imagine if I stayed in limbo like that, where you are, I'd grow to resent the fuck out of everyone else for judging me. Because I'm human, and I just want to be happy like everyone else.

i think she is all over the place. she would like to be replaced and let him be, but the topic is about her friend, different situation.


Really? Well, I guess that makes more sense. Maybe it's still relevant to the friend's situation. I don't know.
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WhAt friend?

It's in general...
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That's why you should not marry when you're young, cause yall stupid and selfish, and have no idea how to treat the other. Once you get older, you become a better person. Well, most people do. Some are trash for life tho

you can, and you can grow together. but if one party is not interested well that's fucked up.

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Lmao! Yeah wait until you can't het it up and than marry!

No cheating in site...calm and quiet life non nursing home...
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
Well, I don't know. I do know that he has neglected you and made you feel bad for many years before Mr. Scorpio came along, so maybe you resent him too much to let him be happy. Maybe on some deep level you need for him to pay for what he did. Maybe it goes further back than him. Were you allowed to love who you wanted to love? Were you allowed to pursue your dreams?

I found myself at the beginning of your situation, but I didn't go through with it. Still, I got to feel some of the shame and guilt. But THEN, I got angry. Forty years of being a good person, working hard, doing what people ask, putting my own needs aside, trying trying trying, crying crying crying, and then getting so tired and hard, I didn't even cry anymore. And after all that, one mistake that I thought would make me happy ruined who I was to everyone? Who I am is no longer who I was? Good? Reliable? Hardworking? Loving? Trustworthy?

I imagine if I stayed in limbo like that, where you are, I'd grow to resent the fuck out of everyone else for judging me. Because I'm human, and I just want to be happy like everyone else.
Ok. My husband is a wonderful person at heart. His mother and aunt who worshiped him died when I was 3 mo pregnant.

I took role of 3 women and spoiled him worse than they did.

He never hurt me. However after years of happy together he started to take me for granted. I didn't mind being young however about 10 years ago I started to wonder. I was 40 and something started to be not enough.

I was getting tired of carrying shopping bags home while he was slowly getting out of the car so he has one trip with bags instead of 2 because I had already done 3!

Nothing and I mean NO THING done by h around the house!

All phone calls and everything is on me.

I started to mind it probably because i was getting older! And tired!

And 8 years ago I've met a Scorpio.

I wasn't looking! Never! It happened!

Man who is me but male...

And I saw man who does it all! We are still joking that if we end up together we will fight about who does what because we do it all! So if it comes to cooking - you cut - I fry! Or out the door! Lol

So you said 40 years? Wow!
Will think on it. You need a hug. 🤗
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Not quite...lmao but thanks!
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
Well, I don't know. I do know that he has neglected you and made you feel bad for many years before Mr. Scorpio came along, so maybe you resent him too much to let him be happy. Maybe on some deep level you need for him to pay for what he did. Maybe it goes further back than him. Were you allowed to love who you wanted to love? Were you allowed to pursue your dreams?

I found myself at the beginning of your situation, but I didn't go through with it. Still, I got to feel some of the shame and guilt. But THEN, I got angry. Forty years of being a good person, working hard, doing what people ask, putting my own needs aside, trying trying trying, crying crying crying, and then getting so tired and hard, I didn't even cry anymore. And after all that, one mistake that I thought would make me happy ruined who I was to everyone? Who I am is no longer who I was? Good? Reliable? Hardworking? Loving? Trustworthy?

I imagine if I stayed in limbo like that, where you are, I'd grow to resent the fuck out of everyone else for judging me. Because I'm human, and I just want to be happy like everyone else.
Ok. My husband is a wonderful person at heart. His mother and aunt who worshiped him died when I was 3 mo pregnant.

I took role of 3 women and spoiled him worse than they did.

He never hurt me. However after years of happy together he started to take me for granted. I didn't mind being young however about 10 years ago I started to wonder. I was 40 and something started to be not enough.

I was getting tired of carrying shopping bags home while he was slowly getting out of the car so he has one trip with bags instead of 2 because I had already done 3!

Nothing and I mean NO THING done by h around the house!

All phone calls and everything is on me.

I started to mind it probably because i was getting older! And tired!

And 8 years ago I've met a Scorpio.

I wasn't looking! Never! It happened!

Man who is me but male...

And I saw man who does it all! We are still joking that if we end up together we will fight about who does what because we do it all! So if it comes to cooking - you cut - I fry! Or out the door! Lol

So you said 40 years? Wow!
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to be fair, it's you who changed. not your husband.

you spoiled him rotten and acted like his mother for decades (which is a typical unhealthy savior complex in relationship) and then you changed. you just grew tired and sick of taking care of everything any more, thus the affair

think about it. if you spoiled your kid rotten and they turn into useless losers in their 20s, you think it's because they are born losers?

i have found that most men do not change easily. once they settle into a pattern, it would take a lot to change the status quo. that's why i am a firm believer that in a relationship, boundaries, roles and how you interact with each other should be defined in the beginning of the relationship to avoid resentments down the road
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.




I suppose.

Also equally hard to see another so easily fulfill his needs and him to be seemingly genuinely happy when you've dedicated your life to the same and haven't gotten those results. Makes those 20 old years seem pointless. And leaves you floundering to find your purpose.

Or so I've been told.
Fair enough. I suppose I haven't spoken with many people who put in that amount of time into a relationship/marriage and come out the other end like that, so I can see how that would be tough too.


My frame of reference is very limited as well. I know three ladies in their early 40s to late 50s who put in 15+ years with their now ex husbands.

The one whoose coped the best is the one who had a job/career. The other two really struggled because they were stay at home moms and didn't have anything to throw themselves into when they split up (kids were grown and moved out at that point).

Sense of identity is vital to your sense of wellbeing.


So? What's your point?

I don't meet to support myself if I end up with my Scorpio.

He wouldn't allow it. He does everything himself! From fking to cooking!

And loving it. Spin want to take load off his shoulders and have him come home to a dimmer that he doesn't have to cook!
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I'm not talking about you bitch. Stay in your lane.
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
Well, I don't know. I do know that he has neglected you and made you feel bad for many years before Mr. Scorpio came along, so maybe you resent him too much to let him be happy. Maybe on some deep level you need for him to pay for what he did. Maybe it goes further back than him. Were you allowed to love who you wanted to love? Were you allowed to pursue your dreams?

I found myself at the beginning of your situation, but I didn't go through with it. Still, I got to feel some of the shame and guilt. But THEN, I got angry. Forty years of being a good person, working hard, doing what people ask, putting my own needs aside, trying trying trying, crying crying crying, and then getting so tired and hard, I didn't even cry anymore. And after all that, one mistake that I thought would make me happy ruined who I was to everyone? Who I am is no longer who I was? Good? Reliable? Hardworking? Loving? Trustworthy?

I imagine if I stayed in limbo like that, where you are, I'd grow to resent the fuck out of everyone else for judging me. Because I'm human, and I just want to be happy like everyone else.
Ok. My husband is a wonderful person at heart. His mother and aunt who worshiped him died when I was 3 mo pregnant.

I took role of 3 women and spoiled him worse than they did.

He never hurt me. However after years of happy together he started to take me for granted. I didn't mind being young however about 10 years ago I started to wonder. I was 40 and something started to be not enough.

I was getting tired of carrying shopping bags home while he was slowly getting out of the car so he has one trip with bags instead of 2 because I had already done 3!

Nothing and I mean NO THING done by h around the house!

All phone calls and everything is on me.

I started to mind it probably because i was getting older! And tired!

And 8 years ago I've met a Scorpio.

I wasn't looking! Never! It happened!

Man who is me but male...

And I saw man who does it all! We are still joking that if we end up together we will fight about who does what because we do it all! So if it comes to cooking - you cut - I fry! Or out the door! Lol

So you said 40 years? Wow!
to be fair, it's you who changed. not your husband.

you spoiled him rotten and acted like his mother for decades (which is a typical unhealthy savior complex in relationship) and then you changed. you just grew tired and sick of taking care of everything any more, thus the affair

think about it. if you spoiled your kid rotten and they turn into useless losers in their 20s, you think it's because they are born losers?

i have found that most men do not change easily. once they settle into a pattern, it would take a lot to change the status quo. that's why i am a firm believer that in a relationship, boundaries, roles and how you interact with each other should be defined in the beginning of the relationship to avoid resentments down the road

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Not even arguing your point!

However child born at 0 age.

Man I married was 37. Been married 3 times before. All wifes cheated and left.

Doesn't it rang a bell?

This jewel I have NOW - doesn't she deserve better? Like help?

Noooo! He is smiling, being nice and having his ass on a couch all day!

And I spoke a few times already!

Last night I've yelled!

Today he wiped the table and proudly showed me his awesome accomplishment! Lol

It's a mad house!
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.




I suppose.

Also equally hard to see another so easily fulfill his needs and him to be seemingly genuinely happy when you've dedicated your life to the same and haven't gotten those results. Makes those 20 old years seem pointless. And leaves you floundering to find your purpose.

Or so I've been told.
Fair enough. I suppose I haven't spoken with many people who put in that amount of time into a relationship/marriage and come out the other end like that, so I can see how that would be tough too.


My frame of reference is very limited as well. I know three ladies in their early 40s to late 50s who put in 15+ years with their now ex husbands.

The one whoose coped the best is the one who had a job/career. The other two really struggled because they were stay at home moms and didn't have anything to throw themselves into when they split up (kids were grown and moved out at that point).

Sense of identity is vital to your sense of wellbeing.


So? What's your point?

I don't meet to support myself if I end up with my Scorpio.

He wouldn't allow it. He does everything himself! From fking to cooking!

And loving it. Spin want to take load off his shoulders and have him come home to a dimmer that he doesn't have to cook!
I'm not talking about you bitch. Stay in your lane.
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You forgot to mark MY lane spinster!
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.




I suppose.

Also equally hard to see another so easily fulfill his needs and him to be seemingly genuinely happy when you've dedicated your life to the same and haven't gotten those results. Makes those 20 old years seem pointless. And leaves you floundering to find your purpose.

Or so I've been told.
Fair enough. I suppose I haven't spoken with many people who put in that amount of time into a relationship/marriage and come out the other end like that, so I can see how that would be tough too.


My frame of reference is very limited as well. I know three ladies in their early 40s to late 50s who put in 15+ years with their now ex husbands.

The one whoose coped the best is the one who had a job/career. The other two really struggled because they were stay at home moms and didn't have anything to throw themselves into when they split up (kids were grown and moved out at that point).

Sense of identity is vital to your sense of wellbeing.


So? What's your point?

I don't meet to support myself if I end up with my Scorpio.

He wouldn't allow it. He does everything himself! From fking to cooking!

And loving it. Spin want to take load off his shoulders and have him come home to a dimmer that he doesn't have to cook!
I'm not talking about you bitch. Stay in your lane.
You forgot to mark MY lane spinster!
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Lol@spinster which by definition is an older unmarried destitute woman. I am none of those things.

Your happy being a married mans cum dumpster. I'm sure you'll be equally happy when your daughter follows your example.
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
Well, I don't know. I do know that he has neglected you and made you feel bad for many years before Mr. Scorpio came along, so maybe you resent him too much to let him be happy. Maybe on some deep level you need for him to pay for what he did. Maybe it goes further back than him. Were you allowed to love who you wanted to love? Were you allowed to pursue your dreams?

I found myself at the beginning of your situation, but I didn't go through with it. Still, I got to feel some of the shame and guilt. But THEN, I got angry. Forty years of being a good person, working hard, doing what people ask, putting my own needs aside, trying trying trying, crying crying crying, and then getting so tired and hard, I didn't even cry anymore. And after all that, one mistake that I thought would make me happy ruined who I was to everyone? Who I am is no longer who I was? Good? Reliable? Hardworking? Loving? Trustworthy?

I imagine if I stayed in limbo like that, where you are, I'd grow to resent the fuck out of everyone else for judging me. Because I'm human, and I just want to be happy like everyone else.
Ok. My husband is a wonderful person at heart. His mother and aunt who worshiped him died when I was 3 mo pregnant.

I took role of 3 women and spoiled him worse than they did.

He never hurt me. However after years of happy together he started to take me for granted. I didn't mind being young however about 10 years ago I started to wonder. I was 40 and something started to be not enough.

I was getting tired of carrying shopping bags home while he was slowly getting out of the car so he has one trip with bags instead of 2 because I had already done 3!

Nothing and I mean NO THING done by h around the house!

All phone calls and everything is on me.

I started to mind it probably because i was getting older! And tired!

And 8 years ago I've met a Scorpio.

I wasn't looking! Never! It happened!

Man who is me but male...

And I saw man who does it all! We are still joking that if we end up together we will fight about who does what because we do it all! So if it comes to cooking - you cut - I fry! Or out the door! Lol

So you said 40 years? Wow!
to be fair, it's you who changed. not your husband.

you spoiled him rotten and acted like his mother for decades (which is a typical unhealthy savior complex in relationship) and then you changed. you just grew tired and sick of taking care of everything any more, thus the affair

think about it. if you spoiled your kid rotten and they turn into useless losers in their 20s, you think it's because they are born losers?

i have found that most men do not change easily. once they settle into a pattern, it would take a lot to change the status quo. that's why i am a firm believer that in a relationship, boundaries, roles and how you interact with each other should be defined in the beginning of the relationship to avoid resentments down the road


Not even arguing your point!

However child born at 0 age.

Man I married was 37. Been married 3 times before. All wifes cheated and left.

Doesn't it rang a bell?

This jewel I have NOW - doesn't she deserve better? Like help?

Noooo! He is smiling, being nice and having his ass on a couch all day!

And I spoke a few times already!

Last night I've yelled!

Today he wiped the table and proudly showed me his awesome accomplishment! Lol

It's a mad house!

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why married someone who divorced 3 times and ex wives cheated every single time in the first place?

you have a savior complex unless you fell in deeply in love with him. i'm a love addict so i can understand that lol

i think 1 time divorcee can be a jewel but 3 times means "not a husband material" is written on his forehead lol
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It seems harder for women to accept he left her because he just plain left, rather than the more comforting idea he left for another woman.


That kind of resentment is also because you have given the best years of your life to this man, bearing and raising his kids and keeping house for him. Your identity is so tied to his. Your lucky if you walk away with some alimony.

Women like this don't have a career to throw themselves into. So it's especially hard to see another fulfill your role.
Ok but what I mean is it seems harder for women to NOT see another woman fulfill that role.

Then there's no hiding place or nothing to soften the blow that you just both chose to go different ways.




I suppose.

Also equally hard to see another so easily fulfill his needs and him to be seemingly genuinely happy when you've dedicated your life to the same and haven't gotten those results. Makes those 20 old years seem pointless. And leaves you floundering to find your purpose.

Or so I've been told.
Fair enough. I suppose I haven't spoken with many people who put in that amount of time into a relationship/marriage and come out the other end like that, so I can see how that would be tough too.


My frame of reference is very limited as well. I know three ladies in their early 40s to late 50s who put in 15+ years with their now ex husbands.

The one whoose coped the best is the one who had a job/career. The other two really struggled because they were stay at home moms and didn't have anything to throw themselves into when they split up (kids were grown and moved out at that point).

Sense of identity is vital to your sense of wellbeing.


So? What's your point?

I don't meet to support myself if I end up with my Scorpio.

He wouldn't allow it. He does everything himself! From fking to cooking!

And loving it. Spin want to take load off his shoulders and have him come home to a dimmer that he doesn't have to cook!
I'm not talking about you bitch. Stay in your lane.
You forgot to mark MY lane spinster!
Lol@spinster which by definition is an older unmarried destitute woman. I am none of those things.

Your happy being a married mans cum dumpster. I'm sure you'll be equally happy when your daughter follows your example.

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You are none of ANY things!

You just bitter angry sorry being that I can't even call human!

And yep! I am happy to be his dumpster!

Any time! (do we have middle finger icon anywhere to insert just so she remember when she had something of that size...if ever?)?

Lmao
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I think people don't leave their partners 'for another one'. They leave them because something is blocked and they think this energy could open up with the other one.

(Let's see an example: oh, my ex forced me to have children. But you don't force me. So, let's have it.

oh, but you are not tidy and don't like my friends and you didn't tell me you smoke ...and your family is... and now we have a child...whoaa...)

Other woman, other issues. I wouldn't worry at all.
I have totally opposite opinion.

No one leaves cozy home unless there is somewhere to go...

Never seen a man going into nowhere.

After no one! They usually have it all and warmed up for them on the other side!

Or younger with firmer body. Or one with money.

But I don't know every one!
You love someone else. Why does this bother you? Is it just ego? Why wouldn't you be relieved to see him happy with someone else so you don't have to worry about him and his heart condition?

I don't get you, woman!
He is an impotent! Do you see h married me who is 11 years younger - getting someone 70 who doesn't probably care about sex with arthritis around her body unable to cook and making him HAPPY!

You don't get it! He is a good looking man with no passion married for 23 years to

a gorgeous woman he adores who catering to his every whim and NOW I say good life to you dear! And he does what— Dancing with joy?


*shrugs*

You're being selfish. If you love him, try to make him happy. If you can't, then you have decisions to make or not make just like you always have. But thinking into the future of yourself with your lover and begrudging your life partner happiness after YOU LEAVE HIM means to me that you are emotionally sick about something, dear. You need to figure out what that is.
You might have something useful here.

I just don't quiet got it.

Care to tell more?
Well, I don't know. I do know that he has neglected you and made you feel bad for many years before Mr. Scorpio came along, so maybe you resent him too much to let him be happy. Maybe on some deep level you need for him to pay for what he did. Maybe it goes further back than him. Were you allowed to love who you wanted to love? Were you allowed to pursue your dreams?

I found myself at the beginning of your situation, but I didn't go through with it. Still, I got to feel some of the shame and guilt. But THEN, I got angry. Forty years of being a good person, working hard, doing what people ask, putting my own needs aside, trying trying trying, crying crying crying, and then getting so tired and hard, I didn't even cry anymore. And after all that, one mistake that I thought would make me happy ruined who I was to everyone? Who I am is no longer who I was? Good? Reliable? Hardworking? Loving? Trustworthy?

I imagine if I stayed in limbo like that, where you are, I'd grow to resent the fuck out of everyone else for judging me. Because I'm human, and I just want to be happy like everyone else.
Ok. My husband is a wonderful person at heart. His mother and aunt who worshiped him died when I was 3 mo pregnant.

I took role of 3 women and spoiled him worse than they did.

He never hurt me. However after years of happy together he started to take me for granted. I didn't mind being young however about 10 years ago I started to wonder. I was 40 and something started to be not enough.

I was getting tired of carrying shopping bags home while he was slowly getting out of the car so he has one trip with bags instead of 2 because I had already done 3!

Nothing and I mean NO THING done by h around the house!

All phone calls and everything is on me.

I started to mind it probably because i was getting older! And tired!

And 8 years ago I've met a Scorpio.

I wasn't looking! Never! It happened!

Man who is me but male...

And I saw man who does it all! We are still joking that if we end up together we will fight about who does what because we do it all! So if it comes to cooking - you cut - I fry! Or out the door! Lol

So you said 40 years? Wow!
to be fair, it's you who changed. not your husband.

you spoiled him rotten and acted like his mother for decades (which is a typical unhealthy savior complex in relationship) and then you changed. you just grew tired and sick of taking care of everything any more, thus the affair

think about it. if you spoiled your kid rotten and they turn into useless losers in their 20s, you think it's because they are born losers?

i have found that most men do not change easily. once they settle into a pattern, it would take a lot to change the status quo. that's why i am a firm believer that in a relationship, boundaries, roles and how you interact with each other should be defined in the beginning of the relationship to avoid resentments down the road


Not even arguing your point!

However child born at 0 age.

Man I married was 37. Been married 3 times before. All wifes cheated and left.

Doesn't it rang a bell?

This jewel I have NOW - doesn't she deserve better? Like help?

Noooo! He is smiling, being nice and having his ass on a couch all day!

And I spoke a few times already!

Last night I've yelled!

Today he wiped the table and proudly showed me his awesome accomplishment! Lol

It's a mad house!


why married someone who divorced 3 times and ex wives cheated every single time in the first place?

you have a savior complex unless you fell in deeply in love with him. i'm a love addict so i can understand that lol

i think 1 time divorcee can be a jewel but 3 times means "not a husband material" is written on his forehead lol
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It's funny from some point of view.

So let's figure it out.

He had met Jewish girl at 21. Right after college and back than no one dated or lived together 'before' so she said how about we get married this year because next is a leap year and it's bad luck?

He is a nice guy! He says OK!

They living with her parents. Dad is a General or some sort! Mom is Henerals wife. Daughter laying in bed all day and hernia working.

When he comes home MIL asking him to shake the door rug because like he is the only one who used it. All Princess was good for is sex and parties.

He got fed up and left.

Second one in a few years. Gorgeous! Great couple! Everyone compliment her looks. He is 6'2" good looking guy but happy to have a beauty! Her Dad is wealthy as anything! 'Son...ill get you own flat'...and a beauty? Wow! He is like 26?

Let's!

Soon after he caught her with her college professor about 70 in bed! He could be 40 but at 26 he saw him as 70! Ugly divorce!

Later at 30 something he meets a woman. Adopts her child. Paying her bio father off and they living the country.

He is a nice guy! She loves rough sex!

So she brings lover and makes them friends! Shit hits the fan! Separation.

I come aboard. He is such a nice guy!!!

We get married. Ex says I give them 5 years! She was wrong! 23 now but...pattern is pattern...

Lol

I don't know if gives you any idea because I have one but I brush it off...

Can you guess?

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