Ever met an introvert Sag? How to deepen the bond with them?

Before we met up he is very flirty over text. When we met up he spoke very softly, no flirt only compliments and admit to me he is introvert and dislike attention from people he doesn't know. However he is ok during one on one situation. Since then he often give me last minute invites almost everyday which I can't always do that as I already have plans.

He kissed me on third date at his place, after that he felt comfortable with PDA. He introduced me to his friends on fourth date. He was comfortable withe holding hands with me under the table or hugging me when his friend is away. he was pretty aggressive with kisses and such.

After 3 weeks of dating we have been doing lots of foreplay but not all the way yet as we want to see how things goes first. He is often texting when I'm around. He admit its his neighbor who is a girl, sometimes they walk home together but haven't been doing so for 5 weeks. He said to me if you ever run into me walking with a girl it will be her.

Now that with some sleep overs his kisses are no longer aggressive. it changes to something more sensual and gentle. he would also caress my hair and he never did before. He is very protective of me by driving me to places or ordering taxi for me. He pays for everything even when i offered. He said you don't have to pay when we are on dates.

He never talks about his emotions, but he would talk about his favorite songs and how he feels towards those lyrics and he mainly prefers sad songs. He loves touching me when we sleep. He often spoon me and rest his hand on my bum or my belly (i'm not athletic and slim)

He also LOVE to ask me about the details of my work during pillow talk and he comes alive when I ask him about his work and philosophy stuff.

In public he loves to hold hands with me but keep our talking volume really low, or he is just comfortable with silence. After spending 3 days with him (minus working hours) when we part he grabbed my shoulders from behind then kissed my cheek wtih his lips. gently slapped my bum and said i gotta run towards this way to work. have a great day, see ya

His text has slowed down but i guess he thinks we are now at a different stage?

It doesn't sound like you have anything to worry about here.

I'm an introverted Sag, and yes there are definitely more Introverted Sagis out there. We do have a hard time opening up about our feelings, and we fight against them the most when we are about to give into them. So I suggest if you feel him pulling away a little, not just texting less(that's normal for guys), give him space, but don't get upset, let him know that you'll still be there.

Once he feels like he can trust you on a deeper level, he'll start to open up emotionally, and you'll know he's 100% in at that point.

...I only wish guys understood that about me...

Posted by Shellyd238
It doesn't sound like you have anything to worry about here.

I'm an introverted Sag, and yes there are definitely more Introverted Sagis out there. We do have a hard time opening up about our feelings, and we fight against them the most when we are about to give into them. So I suggest if you feel him pulling away a little, not just texting less(that's normal for guys), give him space, but don't get upset, let him know that you'll still be there.

Once he feels like he can trust you on a deeper level, he'll start to open up emotionally, and you'll know he's 100% in at that point.

...I only wish guys understood that about me...

That all make sense, he text less but it followed by spending 3 days in a roll together which was a surprise. I will try to show him that he can trust me. I mostly let him do most of the texting as I'm also an introvert myself. I do need alone time to recharge.

Sometimes I do things with him and he would say "you know only you and my nephew would find this funny?" and sometimes he would say "such a little kid" about me. I somehow feel like he is a more mature figure. Not that I'm reckless or immature. Just that when I'm with him I feel like I can let my inner child out.

Poppyseeds,

Sagittarians come and go.

I see it happen on here, all the time.

Oh yes, If you ever visit a pier at the ocean.

watch the seaweeds, how they sway with the current.

That's what Sags do.

Posted by MrFirebird
Poppyseeds,

Sagittarians come and go.

I see it happen on here, all the time.

That wasn't what I meant to ask >

His courtship style doesn't sound introvert to me. Anyway if he really is an introvert you have to learn to be able to enjoy comfortable silence.

I think you've got some good thing going here, If a guy doesn't like you he wouldn't spend 3 days with you. He would just cum and go, let alone sleeping over.

Posted by Poppyseeds
Before we met up he is very flirty over text. When we met up he spoke very softly, no flirt only compliments and admit to me he is introvert and dislike attention from people he doesn't know. However he is ok during one on one situation. Since then he often give me last minute invites almost everyday which I can't always do that as I already have plans.

He kissed me on third date at his place, after that he felt comfortable with PDA. He introduced me to his friends on fourth date. He was comfortable withe holding hands with me under the table or hugging me when his friend is away. he was pretty aggressive with kisses and such.

After 3 weeks of dating we have been doing lots of foreplay but not all the way yet as we want to see how things goes first. He is often texting when I'm around. He admit its his neighbor who is a girl, sometimes they walk home together but haven't been doing so for 5 weeks. He said to me if you ever run into me walking with a girl it will be her.

Now that with some sleep overs his kisses are no longer aggressive. it changes to something more sensual and gentle. he would also caress my hair and he never did before. He is very protective of me by driving me to places or ordering taxi for me. He pays for everything even when i offered. He said you don't have to pay when we are on dates.

He never talks about his emotions, but he would talk about his favorite songs and how he feels towards those lyrics and he mainly prefers sad songs. He loves touching me when we sleep. He often spoon me and rest his hand on my bum or my belly (i'm not athletic and slim)

He also LOVE to ask me about the details of my work during pillow talk and he comes alive when I ask him about his work and philosophy stuff.

In public he loves to hold hands with me but keep our talking volume really low, or he is just comfortable with silence. After spending 3 days with him (minus working hours) when we part he grabbed my shoulders from behind then kissed my cheek wtih his lips. gently slapped my bum and said i gotta run towards this way to work. have a great day, see ya

His text has slowed down but i guess he thinks we are now at a different stage?

The way you appreciate the small things by him makes me

Smile.. what's your zodiac sign? I gotta find me a whatever you are lol.

Y'all will be good though.

Posted by Illuminati
His courtship style doesn't sound introvert to me. Anyway if he really is an introvert you have to learn to be able to enjoy comfortable silence.

I think you've got some good thing going here, If a guy doesn't like you he wouldn't spend 3 days with you. He would just cum and go, let alone sleeping over.

Ok i will try more comfortable silence

@arose32 I'm a Virgo haha it's actually my birthday tomorrow if you want to find another me 😛

he knows it's my birthday but he also knows I never throw a party for that or anything. Also i don't expect presents as he already treat me very well and we've only been dating for less than a month. I just hope for a birthday text.

What sign are you? any tips for deepening the bond with him?

I'm a sag also with a Leo moon...

But, I hope you guys are good.

I've dated a Virgo before briefly and it was intense.. I liked her a lot. I also attract a couple Leo/Virgo cusps... and I can see the chemistry you guys have already. Good luck...

Posted by arose32
I'm a sag also with a Leo moon...

But, I hope you guys are good.

I've dated a Virgo before briefly and it was intense.. I liked her a lot. I also attract a couple Leo/Virgo cusps... and I can see the chemistry you guys have already. Good luck...

Dated briefly means it didn't work? Mind if I ask why? I'm a Virgo as well but have never been involved with any saggitarius.

Posted by arose32
I'm a sag also with a Leo moon...

But, I hope you guys are good.

I've dated a Virgo before briefly and it was intense.. I liked her a lot. I also attract a couple Leo/Virgo cusps... and I can see the chemistry you guys have already. Good luck...

Thank you I hope there's enough chemistry for us ongoingly!

He is sag with gem moon, scorp mercury, cap venus, virgo mars, aqua rising

I'm Virgo with aqua moon, virg mercury, leo venus, leo mars, aqua rising.

Not sure what that all means in an astrological sense?

Im an introverted Sagittarius. I am quite shy really. I talk to people when they talk to me. Never make an attempt to do talk to anyone. Even when I try, always feel awkward when I talk to people I don't know. Makes it hard for me to make any friends or even to date anyone.

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Posted by MrFirebird
Poppyseeds,

Sagittarians come and go.

I see it happen on here, all the time.

That wasn't what I meant to ask ><

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That may not be what you meant to ask, but it was what I meant to answer

and I stand by what I said.

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Posted by arose32
I'm a sag also with a Leo moon...

But, I hope you guys are good.

I've dated a Virgo before briefly and it was intense.. I liked her a lot. I also attract a couple Leo/Virgo cusps... and I can see the chemistry you guys have already. Good luck...

Dated briefly means it didn't work? Mind if I ask why? I'm a Virgo as well but have never been involved with any saggitarius.

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She caught feelings and realized the reality of loving a woman mean being with one for this lifetime..

It amazes me how many people pass up on true relations because of the way society have us thinking what's wrong or right .. idk.

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Posted by arose32
I'm a sag also with a Leo moon...

But, I hope you guys are good.

I've dated a Virgo before briefly and it was intense.. I liked her a lot. I also attract a couple Leo/Virgo cusps... and I can see the chemistry you guys have already. Good luck...

Dated briefly means it didn't work? Mind if I ask why? I'm a Virgo as well but have never been involved with any saggitarius.

She caught feelings and realized the reality of loving a woman mean being with one for this lifetime..

It amazes me how many people pass up on true relations because of the way society have us thinking what's wrong or right .. idk.

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I support equality. You will find someone who is brave enough to show you off. It's an irony that a Virgo ran from sag.

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Posted by Illuminati
His courtship style doesn't sound introvert to me. Anyway if he really is an introvert you have to learn to be able to enjoy comfortable silence.

I think you've got some good thing going here, If a guy doesn't like you he wouldn't spend 3 days with you. He would just cum and go, let alone sleeping over.

Ok i will try more comfortable silence

@arose32 I'm a Virgo haha it's actually my birthday tomorrow if you want to find another me 😛

he knows it's my birthday but he also knows I never throw a party for that or anything. Also i don't expect presents as he already treat me very well and we've only been dating for less than a month. I just hope for a birthday text.

What sign are you? any tips for deepening the bond with him?

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Happy Birthday Poppy!!!

Any nice plans with him?

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Posted by arose32
I'm a sag also with a Leo moon...

But, I hope you guys are good.

I've dated a Virgo before briefly and it was intense.. I liked her a lot. I also attract a couple Leo/Virgo cusps... and I can see the chemistry you guys have already. Good luck...

Dated briefly means it didn't work? Mind if I ask why? I'm a Virgo as well but have never been involved with any saggitarius.

She caught feelings and realized the reality of loving a woman mean being with one for this lifetime..

It amazes me how many people pass up on true relations because of the way society have us thinking what's wrong or right .. idk.

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That's ashamed 😢 I guess it's a bittersweet ending knowing she dind't lose interest it's just that she has real feelings for you that she cannot handle it.

I have bad news... I don't think he likes me anymore.. last week I told him it's my birthday today. I would never expect presents or dinner. However I was really hoping for a birhtday wish text. I had celebrations with friends over the weekend and more coming during the week. However I was greedy and I wanted to see his face. I reached out to him and asked if he wants to catch up for a bit before I go somewhere after work. and also updated him on the things I was working on.

If its a yes he normally write back quick.. so I snesed its a no. He wrote back in 2 hrs and made some playful remark about the things I was working on. then he added I can't today, but enjoy the place you are going to 🙂 🙂 he never used double smiley before...

so I said to him cool, i will enjoy that, speak soon 🙂

Guess he lost interest in me during that 3 days? tha'ts why on Friday morning he seems a bit distance?

No he hasn't lost interest. Most likely he was tied up with something that prevented him from responding as he normally does. That happens, so please don't assume the worst.

One thing that is important is communication. So go with the flow. As long as neither of you dont pull a disappearing act. Things will go smoothly and build from there.

Posted by beautifulsoul74
No he hasn't lost interest. Most likely he was tied up with something that prevented him from responding as he normally does. That happens, so please don't assume the worst.

One thing that is important is communication. So go with the flow. As long as neither of you dont pull a disappearing act. Things will go smoothly and build from there.

Hi he did respond but he didn't say happy birthday to me.. also he didn't offer raincheck or suggest when will he see me. he used to lock me down for next date before one date ends....

last I saw him he spanked me lightly and said see ya. feels like a send off... 😢

He has been very generous so I know he is not worrying about money as he is well off. He was happy to take me to dinner and order taxi for me but he can't see me for 15 mins for free hugs and kisses on my birthday does make me wonder

Posted by beautifulsoul74
No he hasn't lost interest. Most likely he was tied up with something that prevented him from responding as he normally does. That happens, so please don't assume the worst.

One thing that is important is communication. So go with the flow. As long as neither of you dont pull a disappearing act. Things will go smoothly and build from there.

^

Personally I wouldn't be joking around with the person I want to break things off with. He sounds playful.

Posted by beautifulsoul74
No he hasn't lost interest. Most likely he was tied up with something that prevented him from responding as he normally does. That happens, so please don't assume the worst.

One thing that is important is communication. So go with the flow. As long as neither of you dont pull a disappearing act. Things will go smoothly and build from there.

you're overthinking it right now. Like I said, just give him space and relax. If you're still newly dating he might be pulling back BECAUSE it's your birthday and he's not sure where you guys are at, or what you're going to expect from him.

Also if he's been busy then he might just need to decompress alone for a bit. I know it seems selfish, but that's how we are...:/

OP, if I ask you an honest question would you give me an honest answer?

I noticed that you said that you hung out with friends etc but sent him a text because you wanted to see him for a little bit before you celebrated your birthday but was not planning on celebrating it with him. Now, I'm not trying to publicly shame you or Virgos. I'm trying to help you with this Sag and if you really want help then you need to be honest.

Going by your post, you two spent a lot of time together and constantly communicated. He even introduced you to friends and family and we don't do that unless we're serious about someone. My feelings are given that Virgos move at a slower pace(not always) this was too much for you and your fears kicked in and you started backing off and most likely you barely spoke to him over the past week. So he's responding in kind and is not sure if you're playing games or not. Hence why he didn't say happy birthday or didn't spend it with you.

If this is the case, it points to what I said. Go with the flow. The quickest way to begin to lose our trust is to back off with no warning or to slow communication. I often hear this being said by us but nine times outta ten the other person disrupted the flow first. We take a if it aint broke don't fix it approach to dating and expect others to tell us if they're having reservations. Something happened to change his behavior. We don't do that without reason.

@beautifulsoul74

Yes I'm honest with you, I appreciate you are trying to help. I met one of his friend before we had slept over. I told him I didn't plan on celebrating it, I only let whomever wants to do something to invite me. I text him to see him for a bit was before a birthday spa I treat myself to. I had other celebrations with friends and family over the weekend.

To be honest his communication has slowed down which I'm ok. I just don't feel like he is as enthusiastic so after the first slept together I initiated one date and also tried to mirror his spontaneous invite and he responded well. However since we spent 3 days together last week he didn't make any future plans.May be my reciprocation was disturbing the flow?

I didn't back off from him or went cold. He told me he couldn't see me yesterday but told me to enjoy the spa. I responded Ok i will enjoy. speak soon🙂 he hasn't responded to that.

We did foreplay but not all the way sex. 2 weeks ago I asked if he has STD, he admit he has herpes 10 years ago and he has been taking tablets never had outbreak and never passed to anyone. he can understand I want to take no risk, he is happy to just hang out and worry about sex later, or he can just be a friend. I admit I like him and like to keep getting to know him, if things goes well we go get professional advice and he agree to that. However since that talk i sensed his text slowed down.

@arose32 @Shellyd238 @Illuminati

I'm not sure what to say... he has been chatting to my friend on tinder and my friend asked if this is the guy you have been dating? I said yes, she played along and he is sending her frequent messaged like he used to do to me. My friend played along bascially he was being flirty and trying to get to know her. he suggested things they should do together and about how easy they could meet up. She agree to all his "plans" but he is not asking her for her number or make real plans to meet. he just won't stop messaging her.

She finds a few of her hobbies boring, and she is not the highly intellectual type that he seeks. yet he won't stop chatting to her. He was telling her he is looking forward to take someone to go on a holiday with him. She asked him don't you have friends? he goes yes but all of my friends are married (lies!) and that he needs the right person.

She asked him what is right person and he tried to avoid answering but finally he answered something vague..

Anyway he rather chat with random girls to get to know them, even he is not trying to meet... I guess he is done with me...

Poppy I'm not mocking you I think you should write a book for those guys you met. I'm sure all you want is a good guy to settle with but you always run into some interesting characters.

If I were you I would cut contacts with him and run other directions. Good for you for keeping your boundaries, you can leave with your head high without worrying about being infected. Warn your friend about his herpes if she wants to get there.

You were accepting his conditions and willing to keep dating him and not freak out like most people do. He should at least be nice to tell you that things are not working for whatever reason.

He told my friend a lot of things that are different to what he told me. he said he is introvert and such. To my friend he was bragging his wild sexual encounter.

He mentioned he has a female friend. He would text her in front of me, I took it as honesty and involvement. He metioned about that freind to my friend as well. Apaperntly that is someone he dated 4 years ago. but didn't sleep with.

My friend asked if he is dating anyone now, he said not dating just hanging out with a few people, but he think he will friendzone everyone. He downplayed it and also nice to know I was not the only one.

You met him on tinder?

He sounds bored but cares about you. You got to throw him out of the daily grind. Just do some completely random shit. Say spontaneous funny things. Be completely unpredictable. He will love it.

@LadyNeptune No, on a website with a reputation of looking for serious partner. What's the difference would that make?

@NobleSag I also thought he cared about me, until he started to my friend on tinder and brag about his wild sexual encounters, he told me he is an introvert guy who is boring in bedroom. We haven't had full sex, just foreplay and sleep over and other intimacy.

he also doesn't consider us dating. He said to my friend he is only hanging out with a few people which he thinks will friend zone them all. is explains why no happy birthday message and no more initiate of dates and convo. While he is texting my friend all day and night and let's not forget other girls on tinder or the site we met.

Poppyseed,

It sounds to me like he has intimacy issues and I think it centers around his STD. He repeats a pattern of getting close to women but having second thoughts and bailing. In other words, he's afraid.

Posted by beautifulsoul74
Poppyseed,

It sounds to me like he has intimacy issues and I think it centers around his STD. He repeats a pattern of getting close to women but having second thoughts and bailing. In other words, he's afraid.

I sensed that when he shared the music he is into. He is into sad songs. I share my thoughts about those lyrics and he wouldn't respond. it probably scared him.

He told me he caught herpes 10 years ago. After he caught it he had a girlfriend of 2 years, and then he had girlfriends but nothing lasted as long.

If he is afraid I don't think there is anything I can do, apart from let him go. All I know he is used to try harder with me. He would set up dates and pick me up and drive me or taxi and such.

With my friend he tried to meet her by last minute request, he also suggested her to deliver herself to his place.

I still care about him, but I don't think there's anything I could do.

@dewiklaessen1991

I'm not having sex with him yet, anyway I find out something shocking... please have a read on page 2...

Posted by dewiklaessen1991
@Poppyseeds i'm a virgo too btw and me and my sagg are doing fine it's the best thing ever hihi

Good for you.

I'm talking about this particular sag, if you have a read on page 2. I doubt you would think it would be wise for me to put any more energy into it...

Posted by dewiklaessen1991
@Poppyseeds i'm a virgo too btw and me and my sagg are doing fine it's the best thing ever hihi

Her sag has herpes and he is juggling her along with many. He is also NOT an introvert.

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@Poppyseeds i'm a virgo too btw and me and my sagg are doing fine it's the best thing ever hihi

Her sag has herpes and he is juggling her along with many. He is also NOT an introvert.

my sagg is both introverted and extraverted he had many girls before me but never a real relationship you can not judge based on an std i know for many people it is taboo but you don't know what happened so you can not judge if a sagg says something out of trust they mean it it probably took him alot to tell her.

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I could be wrong but from what I read awhile ago he didn't voluntarily tell poppy about his herpes.

He is having many girls right now he said to poppy's friend that he is not dating anyone. He is only hanging out with a few girls like friends or something along the line.

Sounds pretty obvious to me that this is over. What this sag needs to do is stay gone.

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i didn't know that sorry i thought it was too much to read but still if a sagittarius is serious he will eventually stop talking to other girls as a friend is normal my sagittarius and i met on badoo he was talking to alot of girls before he met me same for me with guys afterwards when we met he even showed me his badoo to have a laugh about it and he deleted them without me asking for it. ok my story is different ofcourse more in a sense that sagittarius are not bad they just make stupid mistakes and are often misunderstood

I realized you didn't read it, that's why I suggested you to have a read about the update on page 2.

He didn't know the girl is my friend, basically he downplayed what we have and through this I've also learnt that he is dating many girls at once.I'm glad I didn't go all the way with him.

Sex can be powerful to some sags. We can be very reckless especially about love. We need it just as much as we fear it. It took me years to get over my ex. I couldn't even touch another woman. 2 serious relationships my entire life. He's hurt and scared. Let him go. Ignore him. He told you everything when he brought up his ex. He's running. I can't explain how sensitive we are to people we love, and when lose them it's unbearable. He's done this before. It's like a clock. He has it perfected. Just turn him loose. Maintaining a relationship with him could be toxic to both of you. Let the kid run. He's not ready for anything.

Posted by NobleSag
Sex can be powerful to some sags. We can be very reckless especially about love. We need it just as much as we fear it. It took me years to get over my ex. I couldn't even touch another woman. 2 serious relationships my entire life. He's hurt and scared. Let him go. Ignore him. He told you everything when he brought up his ex. He's running. I can't explain how sensitive we are to people we love, and when lose them it's unbearable. He's done this before. It's like a clock. He has it perfected. Just turn him loose. Maintaining a relationship with him could be toxic to both of you. Let the kid run. He's not ready for anything.

The irony is he is turning 37, not a kid...

it's also sad that he told my friend (a stranger he never met online ) more than what he told me.. he pretended to be introvert with me, but wtih my friend he admit all the wild sex he had... he was also comfortable to tell her he is "hanging out" with a few people at once and will friendzone everyone.. I guess he thought my friend was only after sex as well as they chat on tinder.

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i didn't know that sorry i thought it was too much to read but still if a sagittarius is serious he will eventually stop talking to other girls as a friend is normal my sagittarius and i met on badoo he was talking to alot of girls before he met me same for me with guys afterwards when we met he even showed me his badoo to have a laugh about it and he deleted them without me asking for it. ok my story is different ofcourse more in a sense that sagittarius are not bad they just make stupid mistakes and are often misunderstood

I realized you didn't read it, that's why I suggested you to have a read about the update on page 2.

He didn't know the girl is my friend, basically he downplayed what we have and through this I've also learnt that he is dating many girls at once.I'm glad I didn't go all the way with him.

I understand but please don't think every sagittarius is like this ! i know many and believe me they have a good heart just don't think about their action and regret afterwards

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I've never said all sag are bad, I'm only talking about what happened between this sag and I. When I come here for advice, I was just trying to get some positive idea such as bonding. I would never use astrology to label someone with anything negative

Trust me. All sags are like children. I'm 34 and I feel like a kid sometimes. It's our passion and curiosity that can make us child like. We burn like hell and end up getting burnt out and hurt. Then we pout and take it out on everyone. Sometimes for years. Yes I do this as well. I try not to but sometimes I get hurt badly and can't control myself.

Posted by NobleSag
Trust me. All sags are like children. I'm 34 and I feel like a kid sometimes. It's our passion and curiosity that can make us child like. We burn like hell and end up getting burnt out and hurt. Then we pout and take it out on everyone. Sometimes for years. Yes I do this as well. I try not to but sometimes I get hurt badly and can't control myself.

Yea I don't expect him to come back. Even if he does nothing good can come out of it regardless of the sign.

My cancerian friend is married to this sag guy for 4 years. one day he just packed everything and disappeared. Then apepar and tell her he loves her. celebrate birthday wtih her, yet he wouldn't move back or let her see his new place.

Posted by Poppyseeds
@LadyNeptune No, on a website with a reputation of looking for serious partner. What's the difference would that make?

Are you kidding!? How and where you meet someone says a lot about where things might lead.

Dating sites are a breeding ground for fuck boys, especially tinder. Now it would be unfair to say it'd be impossible to form a real connection on there, but it's very rare. When meeting and dating people from these kind of sites it's best to lower expectations and keep your emotions under control. I'm speaking from experience.

That he has presented himself as a certain way and person to you...and something completely different to your friend is a huge red flag. He's just playing the game, saying what he thinks need to be said to get close.

You were smart and put the brakes on sexual activity. Your already too much effort. He'll be moving onto the next potentially easy lay...you should feel relieved. Herpes is for life.

@LadyNeptune I get what you said. Was just saying we met on site that is reputable for finding long term partner but the outcome was the same.

It was indeed a red flag, I had my suspicious before as he claims to be shy in person but his text was super flirty.

haha you are right I guess I am a lot of effort comparing to how less he is trying to do to meet up with my friend. He can't put up that gentleman front with me forever. I guess I will be the one he is going to remember - the ice queen (what he called me before I sleep over with him) who got away.

It's always good to put brakes on, I just can't be completely comfortable with someone right off the bat. I take time. it's the first time I run into someone with herpes... I didn't judge him because that and willing to take my time to get to know him, and tried not to make decision before hearing professional advice. I guess he knows the doctor would tell me different information than he previously given.

Definitely not going to put myself at risk for a womanizer.