my love to Sagittarius man...

I first came to these boards due to him. That was 4 years ago, I think. I am a Scorpio woman. We have a big age gap. He is younger. It started as a fling. We met and very same day jumped into bed. It was a fabulous experience being in the arms of a Sag man. Those meetings repeated over the next 6 months. I am blaming an eclipse on a lovely Valentine's Day tearing us apart.

He is so serious, but I find him very funny and unbelievably affectionate. I love his intelligence. I love his smile. I love his free spirit. I love that he is so opionated and holds on to integrity.

Before I go into more amourous talk and disgust you guys, after many months, he found me again and wanted to be together again. For the past almost 3 years, he is trying to get back with me. Until recently he kept asking once/twice a week. He remembers details that I had forgotten about. He said he kept a photo of me. He keeps fishing out emails I had sent him years ago.

So... why am I here?

I want to meet him again. Although he wants only sex out of this deal, I think I misinterpreted his wanting to get back again. I always thought he just is into pure sex. Thinking about it more, I think he did find something in me, which I had found in him too. I don't wish meaningless relationships.

Don't get me wrong, friends. I'm not looking into a traditional relationship with him. I just like him for the way he is. He made me happy at the time. His thought still makes me smile. That's all.

What do you think?

I want to understand him so I don't have false hopes.

another thing I feel about him is *Telepathy* !

He contacts me at exactly the times when I think or talk about him.

we even went to the same shop in the city. This is a 2.5 million populated city. I was looking to take on a closing business and he was looking to buy their stuff.

anyway... I see more Scorp girls coming to Sag board today.

Who knows what's happening with the stars...?

I did meet a NEW Sagittarius man online who I found equally attractive through his photo. If things had worked out, I was going to meet him last night. But I chickened out ...

Somewhere I feel guilt for refusing to meet the younger Sag man for so long.

The new one is closer to my age, although I don't think it would matter much.

I just wonder if my younger Sag has felt something, because I didn't get a reply from him. He always writes back, but not this time...

i needed to blurb out these things 🙂

Hi FumR so I see you are still thinking about the sag, that's crazy how when you meet the right one they can leave an impression on you for the rest of your life and vice versa. I don't know if my words help seeing I have only dated seriously one sagg who I am still with his bday is tomorrow by the way but I have casually went out with two other sagg who were younger than my guy. I notice that the younger ones who had different venus than my guy wanting to get serious right away so that made me run the other way, one had a venus in libra and the other scorp but my guy his venus is in sagg which is a hard venus to pin down so I have heard.

Do you still have the same number, email, and etc it seems like Sagg always seems to come back and contact that person if they really cared for them unless he has move on.

Also to understand a sagg men is to talk to them and ask question, You can't try to figure them out just ask question and be upfront with them they like that. Sagg men wont you to keep it real all the time!!!!

Hi Diva -- so nice to see you again 🙂

Yes, still same Sag it is ...

He doesn't kiss'n tell. I asked him a number of times what it is that keeps bringing him back. He said, sex was good with me. And, once he blocked me from FB telling that I rejected him too many times. I told him, I don't see this as rejection. I just don't want to have a casual relationship. If he wants to hang out sometimes for a drink or movie, I'm up for it.

He has Venus in Sag.

Now since you mentioned, I checked the Sag man I dated a while back who asked if I'd marry him. That was first day we met LOL I see he has venus in Cap.
hmm... puzzled about the difference.

was talking about * Telepathy * with this Sagittarius man.

Just when I was typing up this thread, he wrote back 🙂

weird stuff, I tell you .. he never writes around this hour.

aww good for you! i feel the love in the air

happy birthday scorp diva...meant to tell u!

Posted by DMV
happy birthday scorp diva...meant to tell u!

Thanks DMV


I feel that telepathy you both speak of too, it's crazy I could know he wants me to text him so I will and he will respond right away or I would be thinking of him and he texts or call me.

The feelings between this duo is so strong but yet so conflicting that's why I say Communication is the only way becaue if you don't you won't understand where the other person is coming from and that will start all kinda conflict which sometimes can't be reverse.

How is that goin?

😄 love in the air sounds good. Just now I kissed and told him all my scorpio secrets. In writing! If he wants to run, now is a good time, because I can't hold back any more. Nothing will come out of us anyway. He is way younger than me and I'm not particularly in a good setting in my life.


DMV -- I've been reading quite a bit about Sagittarius only to understand where clashes can happen. Scorp is intense and that might drive you away from him. I wish all Scorpios in love with a Sagittarius, they could explore astrology. Without knowing your partners base, it would drive us nuts trying to figure out. We have a different way of expressing ourselves.

I want to be charmed, but he tells me such hard reality, that I have to stop and digest sometimes. Then I tell myself that he doesn't mean the way he says. He says it like a child with pure good intentions, never meaning harm. Our mental connection is strikingly alive, inspired and with admiration for each other.

HE has the say in everything. HE decides if he wants to continue or not. I can continue and be loyal to him even if we don't have a traditional promise. My heart wouldn't want anybody but him anyway. I could go on to my business trusting him to be busy with millions of things. He can remember me occasionally and give me same affection and happiness.


I just learned that I have to communicate with him. I have to tell him what I want, think, or feel. Otherwise we keep staying on superficial level. I also have to learn to be less extravagant or speak less in methaphorical terms, because I realize it doesn't make sense to him.

Perhaps these are part of your misunderstandings with your Scorpio, DMV.

From how you are describing him, he must love you deeply. He must admire you. The flip flopping can happen when he cannot understand you. He will try different ways to please you, but also can become impatient when he feels that he is not successful in expressing himself or connecting with you the way he wants. What he has to learn is not try to analyze you mentally, but use his feelings to understand you. Life is not that serious and once he figured this out, he will have tremendous fun with you.

I think that's what it is...

about the telepathic connection, I didn't see him online for days. I think last we said 'hi' to each other was Nov. 9. So here he is just when I started this thread and asked me same question, "when is the get-together?".

I replied, he is always in my mind. I normally would keep that to myself thinking that I don't want to scare him. But this time I did. I said more... He may not like reading all I wrote, but it's out now.

A lot of sag x scorpio lovin' going on? Must be something in the water, heh

LOL true 😄

perhaps it is the transition period from scorp to sag...

Could be. Though this has been going on all year. Sags are suppose to have more love this year. And it seems like the aries are falling for us too

hm.. my rising is aries.. so I guess it is double love 😄


Gawd.. when I'm happy as I'm today ... it usually gives me a down fall.

Am going to see the SAG. aah!!

it's butterflies ... it's volcanos ... it's being stupid and smart

I don't know.

I like him.

will always say that to him.

He said, 'Don't fall in love with me!'

I said, 'Don't worry.'

~i will...!~ 😄 (i didn't say this part).


this is not good... i'm already day dreaming... NOT good! maybe

FT you are my favorite scorpio ever.

I just have to keep saying it lol

Sag89 I usually don't know how to respond to compliments, but.. uhm.. i truly appreciate your lovin' 😄

you can be assured it is mutual

MzSag -- I don't know what you mean by synastry. I just checked the 12th house for Sag man is in Libra and mine in Pisces. However, I also don't know if the calculation for 12th house is influenced by birth hour. I don't know his. I asked, but he doesn't know.

Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
Sag89 I usually don't know how to respond to compliments, but.. uhm.. i truly appreciate your lovin' 😄

you can be assured it is mutual

😄

SAG man cancelled our meeting for today.

He says he barely slept and has upset stomach and wants raincheck.

I believe him.

I don't know how to respond because I'm a bit pissed and don't feel being cooperative for rain check.

Is it possible that out of excitement he made himself sick?

anyway... I wished him fast recovery.

my initial reaction has settled. In a way, it has become 'cute' that he (I think) thought himself into the corner.

I was always the one experiencing huge butterflies and stomach upsets when he wanted to see me again.

If I had thought... "oh, he just wants to meet me for tea", I would have agreed seeing him long time ago. The thought of potentially having sex, makes things complicated.

well ...

Mr SAG made it possible we saw each other again.


He first felt sick .. then he contacted me from the place I had suggested to meet


It was wonderful to see him again.

I feel very emotional tonight.

Even just writing this makes me all teary.

He was wonderful...

Very sweet, .. kind .. sexy and lovely.

Anyway. lots to digest still.

Hi reason 🙂

LOL .. Reason

I was partially given to me by someone else, but you can call me FUM if you like 😄

i like when u write about your exploits...keep em coming

Posted by Reason
Good! What's FUM?

Fun, farm, rum, pharm and fu.. come to my sleeping mind .. where's the truth?

LOL ... yes All that! 😄

Hi DMV -- I think we are a misunderstood match in the eyes of astrologers who have not explored the later years of Scorp vs Sag matching.

To my understanding there still is a misconception on how Sag*Scorp relation works.

Even 6-7 years ago Virgo was not considered match to a Scorpio. Now he is added to the mix.

so i tried that communication thing u were talking about...

i decided to talk to him about why he acts a certain way towards me. i called him up and asked him why he acts a certain way towards me. he totally blew me off, but he wasnt mean about it lol. he just kept saying how he didnt know what i was talking about. clearly he did, but didnt want to talk about it. ive gotten this reaction b4. happens alot with his gemini moon.

i felt like a dumbass and i felt like i was wasting my time, so i just hung up. he kept saying my name after every sentence. in fact, ive never had anyone say my name as much as he does. this is the first time in over a year that ive called him. i never call him. he is seriously about control. we both are. our timing is never right. when i raise my white flag, he has his gun up and vice versa.

Reason ... I guess it entails fun female who has many stories to tell and some are on the Red district wink wink

DMV -- I'm sorry I don't remember your story with your Scorp man. It is important how old he is, because Scorp guys can act quite weird even in my eyes. It is the protective mechanism that makes them act the way they do. We are not good in communicating ourselves. We hope that we are understood. But we only learn over the years that we are NOT understood.

I understand your last connection before this last one with Scorp guy was a long time ago. I am sure he got a kick out of you calling him. You being open to us, brings you one step closer to us. We think we are understood by others, because we make many thoughts on a person to figure them out. So we think others do same.

To me the Scorpio man you are referring to is insincere by calling out your name so often -- after every sentence... that would drive me crazy also. What is he, a sales person? It also seems obvious to me he had his shield up. When he said, he cannot understand you, that is what he meant.

Sometimes Mr. Sag will say the same to me, that he can't understand what I mean. Initially, he used to answer with "huh?". One day I told him, please don't reply with "huh?". I try to give my best effort to explain what I mean. One example is, when we were going to meet and it was a back and forth thing, in the end I told him, this suspense is killing me. He said, I don't know what you mean. Then I told him, this possibly meeting or not meeting ..... Then he understood me. A scorp would pick up on that. I think. Again, I'm trying to analyze our ways of communication.

Posted by DMV
so i tried that communication thing u were talking about...

this is the first time in over a year that ive called him. i never call him. he is seriously about control. we both are. our timing is never right. when i raise my white flag, he has his gun up and vice versa.

This part I don't know how to explain other then, it takes a mature Scorpio to give up on "control", or rather "being controlled". The control is not aimed at you, it is more like a protection on ourselves. We don't know yet how to be open, down-to-earth communicative. We fear to look stupid and therefore hide our thoughts. We fear of being hurt, because it can hit us deep down, therefore we prefer hiding our feelings, unless you come out with it first.

The more open you are, the more relaxed we get.


With this Sagittar

...Sagittarius man I was always very cautious. It took me 3 long years to finally meet him again, although inside I was dying to see him. Every time he asked me, I used to get butterflies, feel sick to my stomach, didn't know how to respond. I learned over time to say just how I felt. I accepted that he can keep me or leave me it wouldn't matter. I explained to him how I feel every time he asks me.

Then... unexpectedly .. the ice started melting down.


Finally I did agree and went for it.

We are again in this stage of silence. He said, don't fall in love with me! Don't create drama! I responded, I can't promise not falling in love, but I am no drama person.

So even if I were to just have friendly, intellectual talk with him, I wouldn't contact him, because I'd think he'd analyze this as "Drama".

I will wait for him to contact me. If he does, that's fine. If he doesn't that is fine too. If he waits too long, it will take me an immense amount of time to meet him again, because that is not what I want for myself. Nevertheless, he has touched my life considerably, and it seems that I will always like him very much. 🙂

he taunts me when he says my name. shit even maybe he wants other people around him to know who just called him.

i know what your referring to about the ice melting. that happens on both our parts but the walls quickly go up.

my gut says that he isnt a good guy. not even close, i knew that the first time i looked into his eyes, but my curiosity got the better of me. being friends isnt realistic.

i hope that you and your sag men find common ground. stage of silence is a double edged sword. gives u time to think but also produces unproductive lags.

he is 32

Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
Reason ... I guess it entails fun female who has many stories to tell and some are on the Red district wink wink

LMBO!!!

DMV

If his calling out your name affects you, then he probably figured that out. He is not the type of guy who will brag openly. Scorpio is private. If he brags, then his interest in you will come in the open.

About your gut feeling, hmm... that's a difficult one. Normally, I would suggest to listen to your gut.

I am just wondering if his 'confidence'/shield gave you the wrong signal. In my younger years, people used to mistake me for a snobby person, but once they knew me closer, they used to admit they had the false opinion about me. I used to hear it often.

Mr SAG tells me I'm a good person. That actually surprised me. He said it before, but it still surprises me that he feels mentioning that. He almost NEVER refers to me by name. Since I think about it now ... I do call out his name often too 😄 I do like thinking about his name. As much as he seems a talker, I also realized he is very shy.


1 year is a long time since you and Mr. Scorp heard from each other last. He is at the age of finding himself better. Friends is the best way to start. Both signs have so many things to explore about. I think Sagittarius can make us talkative. Once Mr. Scorp trusts you, he will become much different from how you know him now. I know it can be annoying at the moment because we like to tease. Part of it is to know you better by your reactions and also to see if you have a sense of humour. When we feel misunderstood, our shield does go right up. We prefer silence. We need to think and understand.

You can break that cycle.

In the months when we were still seeing eachother, DMV, I tried many different ways to see what worked best for him.

I analyzed SAG male to the T astrologically. Best way to start is BE yourself! That is what I learned.

I found being flirtatious, using innuendos, being a light-hearted communicator, NONE of this worked for him. Then I decided to be myself. Sometimes dark. Sometimes insecure. Sometimes wondering about things and asking the most stupid questions, or telling things about myself by also hoping this will be the last I hear from him. I don't want to keep thinking about him.

Then I saw he responded best when I was just being myself.

Thank you for the tip! I am thinking on breaking this silence by commenting to one of his artful photographies.

WOW! this is crazy...

I mentioned about an eclips tearing us apart 3 years ago. That was the one on February 2008.

I didn't know this time there was AGAIN a solar eclipse Nov 25, 2011!

It is said solar eclipses bring endings.

Is this the end of Mr Sag and FUM?

:O

Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
In the months when we were still seeing eachother, DMV, I tried many different ways to see what worked best for him.

I analyzed SAG male to the T astrologically. Best way to start is BE yourself! That is what I learned.

I found being flirtatious, using innuendos, being a light-hearted communicator, NONE of this worked for him. Then I decided to be myself. Sometimes dark. Sometimes insecure. Sometimes wondering about things and asking the most stupid questions, or telling things about myself by also hoping this will be the last I hear from him. I don't want to keep thinking about him.

Then I saw he responded best when I was just being myself.

Thank you for the tip! I am thinking on breaking this silence by commenting to one of his artful photographies.

thats cool. definitely taking an interest in my hobbies is a way to communicate and find common ground.

totally, be yourself. the facade gets you no where.

in regards to the silence, i wouldnt suggest it. saggis are horrible at calling people. its not that were trying to be rude, its just not on our to-do-list to call people. we eventually get around to it. so if u feel like u havent heard from him in awhile, id ring him and suggest an activity.

Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
WOW! this is crazy...

I mentioned about an eclips tearing us apart 3 years ago. That was the one on February 2008.

I didn't know this time there was AGAIN a solar eclipse Nov 25, 2011!

It is said solar eclipses bring endings.

Is this the end of Mr Sag and FUM?

:O

yep, the eclipse happened on my birthday, i should have a string of good luck coming to me in the next year.. eclipses also bring new beginnings. this was a new moon, so new beginnings. 🙂

Posted by FUMRedFairy_tales
DMV

If his calling out your name affects you, then he probably figured that out. He is not the type of guy who will brag openly. Scorpio is private. If he brags, then his interest in you will come in the open.

About your gut feeling, hmm... that's a difficult one. Normally, I would suggest to listen to your gut.

I am just wondering if his 'confidence'/shield gave you the wrong signal. In my younger years, people used to mistake me for a snobby person, but once they knew me closer, they used to admit they had the false opinion about me. I used to hear it often.

Mr SAG tells me I'm a good person. That actually surprised me. He said it before, but it still surprises me that he feels mentioning that. He almost NEVER refers to me by name. Since I think about it now ... I do call out his name often too 😄 I do like thinking about his name. As much as he seems a talker, I also realized he is very shy.


1 year is a long time since you and Mr. Scorp heard from each other last. He is at the age of finding himself better. Friends is the best way to start. Both signs have so many things to explore about. I think Sagittarius can make us talkative. Once Mr. Scorp trusts you, he will become much different from how you know him now. I know it can be annoying at the moment because we like to tease. Part of it is to know you better by your reactions and also to see if you have a sense of humour. When we feel misunderstood, our shield does go right up. We prefer silence. We need to think and understand.

You can break that cycle.

his interest is in the open. its been that way for a long time. people knw that there is something going on between us. we run in the same social circle, so i see him often but we dont sleep together and we hardly talk. i stopped talking to him for almost a year, even though i saw him almost daily. i dont want to go back to an intimate relationship. id rather just be cordial. he openly degrades me or is nice. i keep my distance because i never know what the hell im bout to get. he gets off on making me the butt of his jokes.

i thought when i called him the other day, we were going to make some progress and get to the heart of the matter alone and in private. but he wasnt interested in having a serious conversation. he would rather joke around and play dumb.

Poor Fume...still holding onto nothing, sort of sad watching you endure so much and get so little in return.

DMV -- I don't think he intends on making you look bad. He must admire you that you are the centre of his 'tease'. But I understand that it is veeery annoying to someone who is put on the spot like that. Have you told him directly, "OK, stop with the joking now ... I need a straight answer from you....", then shoot your question with an arrow.

That will shake him up. However, if you belief it just is not going anywhere, then best is to let time pass. Perhaps someone else will set him straight in the meantime and in the coming years, you both might be ready one day.

I'm not suggesting to wait, but I think it does envolve a certain degree of maturity for SAG/SCORP coupling. Once you both figure that life is not that serious, then you both may have plenty of fun together and also enjoy each other on a higher level. I sincerely believe on SAG/SCORP reaching a spiritual level together making best of life friends and play partners.

tiki -- don't pity me! 🙂

There are more Nobel ways of making yourself feel more important and find happiness.

i think your onto something FUM.

we had a breakthrough yesterday. he did something yesterday that spoke mountains for how he felt about me. im still floored. your right. he is hesistant but the more i give, the easier it is for him.

well... I'm glad to hear 😄

I'm not giving you pity at all...