
Sag898
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Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?

Posted by Sagicorn
What good comes from habding her the guy who doesn't want to be with her anyway? So you'd hand the guy you like to your friend who maybe had him as back up plan? What's the point? Be direct and say things as they are...you liked each other and hooked up.

Posted by SagicornPosted by Sag898Posted by Sagicorn
What good comes from habding her the guy who doesn't want to be with her anyway? So you'd hand the guy you like to your friend who maybe had him as back up plan? What's the point? Be direct and say things as they are...you liked each other and hooked up.
Eh, that's a good point.
I don't know I guess....? Something feels wrong to pursue a guy a friend may have liked. Just in general. I know that's not really rational at all but I'm worried I can't move past that idea.
Also I think some part of me feels deep down like I'm not a good choice.
And how would it be ok that your friend dates a guy you, her friend, liked? In that case it pretty much comes up at guy to decide and he did...click to expand

Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.click to expand



Posted by JanMayMarry
Oey Leo moon! What's going on in your mind? Put yourself in his place and ask yourself, will you like it if he were to do the same thing to you?
Goodness o' Sag...don't do this. While you think you're making a sacrifice for your friend, you're actually killing the other person who was absolutely sure about his feels.
I wanna strangle you right now. Come here! Haha


Posted by Ellygant
Girl no.
If she wanted to date him she shouldn’t have put him in your lane. She can’t double back now cause she feels like she lost an option.
Also, hello, It’s pretty shitty and anti-girl code of her to flirt very obviously with someone she tried to set you up with.
If the dude liked her even a little bit, then I could see where you are coming from. But it sounds like he wouldn’t date her even if you weren’t around.
More than anything, this honestly sounds like you are trying to self sabotage your own potential happiness.

Posted by Endless
I understand the code when it comes to exes, cuz there is a shared history and all that, but calling dibs on a rational and independent human being? like such person have no said on his own life and body? WTF
besides she actually didn't call dibs 😆 so what's the point of this topic again?

Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?click to expand

Posted by tiziani
When you asked "can you see where I'm coming from" that was a little evil lol
But in the end I'd ask you what's the most important feeling for you right now? You mentioned 2-3 different things. Loyalty for the friend, the dude being sweet and not wanting to step on him, then not feeling like you're a good choice in the relationship.
If it were me i'd separate the laundry and just process whichever is the biggest feeling, make it a priority. The rest will sort itself out in the meantime. Things have a way of doing that in the background as long as you're working through the top priority.

Posted by JanMayMarryPosted by Sag898Posted by JanMayMarry
Oey Leo moon! What's going on in your mind? Put yourself in his place and ask yourself, will you like it if he were to do the same thing to you?
Goodness o' Sag...don't do this. While you think you're making a sacrifice for your friend, you're actually killing the other person who was absolutely sure about his feels.
I wanna strangle you right now. Come here! Haha
Killing?? HAHA 😄 Aries venus extreme! lol But no I get what your saying. Maybe I'm not being wise
Please use your head and not your heart for a moment. I know you do value your friendship but then again...meh! Your Aqua venus need a slap on the ass!click to expand

Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.click to expand

Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.click to expand

Posted by DamousPosted by Sag898
And I was like okay well I'm gonna go
Than he was like please lay down and cuddle with me
And of course I do and than that lead to sex
Than I was like I really need to go and he's like stay the night and I'm like no
He's such a sweet boy forsure. But like I don't roll that way.
I kinda think you do roll that wayclick to expand

Posted by DamousPosted by Sag898Posted by DamousPosted by Sag898
And I was like okay well I'm gonna go
Than he was like please lay down and cuddle with me
And of course I do and than that lead to sex
Than I was like I really need to go and he's like stay the night and I'm like no
He's such a sweet boy forsure. But like I don't roll that way.
I kinda think you do roll that way
Not really though
But in this instance thoclick to expand

Posted by DamousPosted by Sag898Posted by DamousPosted by Sag898Posted by DamousPosted by Sag898
And I was like okay well I'm gonna go
Than he was like please lay down and cuddle with me
And of course I do and than that lead to sex
Than I was like I really need to go and he's like stay the night and I'm like no
He's such a sweet boy forsure. But like I don't roll that way.
I kinda think you do roll that way
Not really though
But in this instance tho
I guess but it's not like that. She encouraged it despite having possible feelings. Maybe she didn't think I'd actually go for it and maybe I didn't either.
Idk but you can always walk away.
Just go for him lol. She said you should or whatever so do itclick to expand

Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.
Well you are right about. He told me he had a very shitty ex girlfriend. So than you think two things.
1. You are just as bad as her
2. You should try to the best lover he's had cause you feel bad
Either way it sucks.
Do you have any reason to believe that 1. is true?
Even if we were to believe that it is true it would still only be one half of the equation and leave him with the choice to run away or see if he has learned from what happened with the ex.
What is the problem with 2. for you? I mean, isn't the goal to be a good partner or just a good person in general?
What is the problem with 2. for you?click to expand

Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.
Well you are right about. He told me he had a very shitty ex girlfriend. So than you think two things.
1. You are just as bad as her
2. You should try to the best lover he's had cause you feel bad
Either way it sucks.
Do you have any reason to believe that 1. is true?
Even if we were to believe that it is true it would still only be one half of the equation and leave him with the choice to run away or see if he has learned from what happened with the ex.
What is the problem with 2. for you? I mean, isn't the goal to be a good partner or just a good person in general?
What is the problem with 2. for you?
No. I mean apparently this ex moved all the way to the state with him. He was trying to make a life with her and she would never be intimate with him and just wanted to party and neglected him emotionally. Than one day she packed up all her stuff without saying anything and left him. I guess she tried to get back in but he has some serious animosity towards her obviously and told her to take a hike.
Again this was pillow talk. I didn't ask him about any of this he just vomited it all over me. ( which is fine I guess )
Than made a note that despite all that he is emotionally available. I was like okay...
It just feels like a lot after you add in the friend crush thing too.
Okay, if you don't plan to do any of those things, then what is the problem?click to expand

Posted by tiziani
Oh damn, no wonder why he asked if you're going to ghost.

Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by AntiochusPosted by Sag898Posted by Antiochus
Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.
Well you are right about. He told me he had a very shitty ex girlfriend. So than you think two things.
1. You are just as bad as her
2. You should try to the best lover he's had cause you feel bad
Either way it sucks.
Do you have any reason to believe that 1. is true?
Even if we were to believe that it is true it would still only be one half of the equation and leave him with the choice to run away or see if he has learned from what happened with the ex.
What is the problem with 2. for you? I mean, isn't the goal to be a good partner or just a good person in general?
What is the problem with 2. for you?
No. I mean apparently this ex moved all the way to the state with him. He was trying to make a life with her and she would never be intimate with him and just wanted to party and neglected him emotionally. Than one day she packed up all her stuff without saying anything and left him. I guess she tried to get back in but he has some serious animosity towards her obviously and told her to take a hike.
Again this was pillow talk. I didn't ask him about any of this he just vomited it all over me. ( which is fine I guess )
Than made a note that despite all that he is emotionally available. I was like okay...
It just feels like a lot after you add in the friend crush thing too.
Okay, if you don't plan to do any of those things, then what is the problem?
No, I would never treat someone like that.
The problem? Well I guess I just don't know I feel 100% yet.
You mean you currently haven't fallen in love 100% yet and are worried due to that?
That definetly makes more sense than your initial concerns.
If that is the underlying problem, I'm afraid I don't have a good solution for you because that is something I always struggle with as well.
I think all you can do is to ask yourself:
Do you like him as a person?
Do you like spending time with him?
Would you like to further explore your interactions with him?
If you are afraid of hurting him the aforementioned applies again: you will hurt him anyway at some point but you can decide in what context this pain will be.click to expand


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Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.
Well you are right about. He told me he had a very shitty ex girlfriend. So than you think two things.
1. You are just as bad as her
2. You should try to the best lover he's had cause you feel bad
Either way it sucks.
Do you have any reason to believe that 1. is true?
Even if we were to believe that it is true it would still only be one half of the equation and leave him with the choice to run away or see if he has learned from what happened with the ex.
What is the problem with 2. for you? I mean, isn't the goal to be a good partner or just a good person in general?
What is the problem with 2. for you?
No. I mean apparently this ex moved all the way to the state with him. He was trying to make a life with her and she would never be intimate with him and just wanted to party and neglected him emotionally. Than one day she packed up all her stuff without saying anything and left him. I guess she tried to get back in but he has some serious animosity towards her obviously and told her to take a hike.
Again this was pillow talk. I didn't ask him about any of this he just vomited it all over me. ( which is fine I guess )
Than made a note that despite all that he is emotionally available. I was like okay...
It just feels like a lot after you add in the friend crush thing too.
Okay, if you don't plan to do any of those things, then what is the problem?
No, I would never treat someone like that.
The problem? Well I guess I just don't know I feel 100% yet.
You mean you currently haven't fallen in love 100% yet and are worried due to that?
That definetly makes more sense than your initial concerns.
If that is the underlying problem, I'm afraid I don't have a good solution for you because that is something I always struggle with as well.
I think all you can do is to ask yourself:
Do you like him as a person?
Do you like spending time with him?
Would you like to further explore your interactions with him?
If you are afraid of hurting him the aforementioned applies again: you will hurt him anyway at some point but you can decide in what context this pain will be.
Good point and good questions. I'm gonna be mulling over them all day. See how I feel. Disappoint than hurt though.
Can I ask what you mean when you say you struggle with it as well?
Yeah, that is the tragedy of a Sags life. 😛
As shitty as all of this may feel at the moment it is, and will always be, the essential ambrosia of life.
The more ypu struggle and suffer now the deeper your connection and feelings with/for him will become if you choose to take the flower road.
Sure. The way understood you is that you aren't sure about being in love or don't feel like feel like you have fallen in love. That's something I have always struggle with due to my inherent and deep seated distrust of my own emotions. I still haven't found a rule or parameter to evaluate at what point I can be sure that I am in love. Mostof the time I can't help but constantly fear that what I feel is not love nor attraction but something else. It takes me years of constant struggle to even accept that what I feel is indeed something akin to love.click to expand

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I think your bad quote is supposed to reference, "No good deed goes unpunished."

Posted by Arkansassy
Just no.. That is your dick now if you want it.

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Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.
Well you are right about. He told me he had a very shitty ex girlfriend. So than you think two things.
1. You are just as bad as her
2. You should try to the best lover he's had cause you feel bad
Either way it sucks.
Do you have any reason to believe that 1. is true?
Even if we were to believe that it is true it would still only be one half of the equation and leave him with the choice to run away or see if he has learned from what happened with the ex.
What is the problem with 2. for you? I mean, isn't the goal to be a good partner or just a good person in general?
What is the problem with 2. for you?
No. I mean apparently this ex moved all the way to the state with him. He was trying to make a life with her and she would never be intimate with him and just wanted to party and neglected him emotionally. Than one day she packed up all her stuff without saying anything and left him. I guess she tried to get back in but he has some serious animosity towards her obviously and told her to take a hike.
Again this was pillow talk. I didn't ask him about any of this he just vomited it all over me. ( which is fine I guess )
Than made a note that despite all that he is emotionally available. I was like okay...
It just feels like a lot after you add in the friend crush thing too.
Okay, if you don't plan to do any of those things, then what is the problem?
No, I would never treat someone like that.
The problem? Well I guess I just don't know I feel 100% yet.
You mean you currently haven't fallen in love 100% yet and are worried due to that?
That definetly makes more sense than your initial concerns.
If that is the underlying problem, I'm afraid I don't have a good solution for you because that is something I always struggle with as well.
I think all you can do is to ask yourself:
Do you like him as a person?
Do you like spending time with him?
Would you like to further explore your interactions with him?
If you are afraid of hurting him the aforementioned applies again: you will hurt him anyway at some point but you can decide in what context this pain will be.
Good point and good questions. I'm gonna be mulling over them all day. See how I feel. Disappoint than hurt though.
Can I ask what you mean when you say you struggle with it as well?
Yeah, that is the tragedy of a Sags life. 😛
As shitty as all of this may feel at the moment it is, and will always be, the essential ambrosia of life.
The more ypu struggle and suffer now the deeper your connection and feelings with/for him will become if you choose to take the flower road.
Sure. The way understood you is that you aren't sure about being in love or don't feel like feel like you have fallen in love. That's something I have always struggle with due to my inherent and deep seated distrust of my own emotions. I still haven't found a rule or parameter to evaluate at what point I can be sure that I am in love. Mostof the time I can't help but constantly fear that what I feel is not love nor attraction but something else. It takes me years of constant struggle to even accept that what I feel is indeed something akin to love.
I feel that hard. Well good luck to me and good luck to you, right? lol 😄
Yeah, but you can have my half of the luck for I have decided to abandon this front of life.
You seem to be more deserving of this luck anyway.click to expand
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Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.
Well you are right about. He told me he had a very shitty ex girlfriend. So than you think two things.
1. You are just as bad as her
2. You should try to the best lover he's had cause you feel bad
Either way it sucks.
Do you have any reason to believe that 1. is true?
Even if we were to believe that it is true it would still only be one half of the equation and leave him with the choice to run away or see if he has learned from what happened with the ex.
What is the problem with 2. for you? I mean, isn't the goal to be a good partner or just a good person in general?
What is the problem with 2. for you?
No. I mean apparently this ex moved all the way to the state with him. He was trying to make a life with her and she would never be intimate with him and just wanted to party and neglected him emotionally. Than one day she packed up all her stuff without saying anything and left him. I guess she tried to get back in but he has some serious animosity towards her obviously and told her to take a hike.
Again this was pillow talk. I didn't ask him about any of this he just vomited it all over me. ( which is fine I guess )
Than made a note that despite all that he is emotionally available. I was like okay...
It just feels like a lot after you add in the friend crush thing too.
Okay, if you don't plan to do any of those things, then what is the problem?
No, I would never treat someone like that.
The problem? Well I guess I just don't know I feel 100% yet.
You mean you currently haven't fallen in love 100% yet and are worried due to that?
That definetly makes more sense than your initial concerns.
If that is the underlying problem, I'm afraid I don't have a good solution for you because that is something I always struggle with as well.
I think all you can do is to ask yourself:
Do you like him as a person?
Do you like spending time with him?
Would you like to further explore your interactions with him?
If you are afraid of hurting him the aforementioned applies again: you will hurt him anyway at some point but you can decide in what context this pain will be.
Good point and good questions. I'm gonna be mulling over them all day. See how I feel. Disappoint than hurt though.
Can I ask what you mean when you say you struggle with it as well?
Yeah, that is the tragedy of a Sags life. 😛
As shitty as all of this may feel at the moment it is, and will always be, the essential ambrosia of life.
The more ypu struggle and suffer now the deeper your connection and feelings with/for him will become if you choose to take the flower road.
Sure. The way understood you is that you aren't sure about being in love or don't feel like feel like you have fallen in love. That's something I have always struggle with due to my inherent and deep seated distrust of my own emotions. I still haven't found a rule or parameter to evaluate at what point I can be sure that I am in love. Mostof the time I can't help but constantly fear that what I feel is not love nor attraction but something else. It takes me years of constant struggle to even accept that what I feel is indeed something akin to love.
I feel that hard. Well good luck to me and good luck to you, right? lol 😄
Yeah, but you can have my half of the luck for I have decided to abandon this front of life.
You seem to be more deserving of this luck anyway.
I don't know about that lol but us saggies are born w that Jupiter luck
So take at least a little Aqua 😄 😄 hahaclick to expand

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Why do you think it will lead to drama?
From what you described he is only interested in you, she is okay with it and said you should go for it.
Does she have a history when it comes to such set ups that lead you to believe she will blow up in some form?
Hey there A! Thanks for your reply. Yes, in a sense. Like not really blow up but maybe feel disappointed? I mean for all I know he could of been her back up plan after it went south with his friend. She has a mars gemini and she kind of hops around like that.
My mars in scorpio, I just get so sexually and mentally intense with who ever I am with, I'm just thinking I need to pull out before I feel like I make things worse if she indeed does.
I haven't been able to get ahold for a long enough period of time lately to update her on what's been happening. But after I do I guess I'll know.
I just want others to feel good.
As admirably as all of that may sound, do you really think it's the overall best course of actions for everyone involved?
Based on your description it doesn't sound like your friend isn't really invested while he seems to be rather invested in you. Are there any problems or insecurities on your side when it comes to a potential relationships with him or has everything been good so far?
The reason I ask this is because your plan would be to abort something that seems to work for two people being happy and a chance of mild disappointment in order to open a path to something that might make one person happy instead of two. From a utilitarian standpoint this would be an immoral choice.
Then there is the case of his feelings. If you abort the mission you are likely to hurt him and his potential feelings for you like they don't matter at all in this equation.
It's one of those situations where there is no perfect choice or path to take. You can only try to make the best of it in accordance with your principles and convictions.
Ahhhhh.....yeah..lol.
I feel scared. And I can't tell if that's healthy or not at this point in my life? And what it means.
I'm glad for your opinions. It's helping me look at all sides of this and than fall to conclusion.
I think being scared is when it comes to relationships is normal at every age and point in your life.
There is, after all, no tougher test for your character, emotions and your person as a whole.
That means you are going to face the same problem whenever you are getting close to someon. Regardless of the circumstances. Why do you think it's negativ to be scared of love and relationships?
Because I feel your shouldn't fear anything. Which is almost how I live my life but lately around this area not so much lol
Fear is a natural part of life. We all should feel it. A life without fear is a lacking one in my opinion.
Courage isn't the absence of fear but overcoming it while fully being aware of potential outcomes and consequences.
The fact that you now fear the potential of love and relationship might, depending on your perspective, indicate that you have come to a new depth in your understanding of those matters.
Can you verbalize what it is you fear and/or why?
I ask because this seems to be the main issue at hand here while the other two parts are onyl sedondary.
Disappointing others 100%
Are you saying that you are 100% sure that this is one of your major fears or that you are afraid of disappointing other to 100% ?
Either way there is the problem that you are bound to disappoint. It is unavoidable.
Even more so in this case.
Well you are right about. He told me he had a very shitty ex girlfriend. So than you think two things.
1. You are just as bad as her
2. You should try to the best lover he's had cause you feel bad
Either way it sucks.
Do you have any reason to believe that 1. is true?
Even if we were to believe that it is true it would still only be one half of the equation and leave him with the choice to run away or see if he has learned from what happened with the ex.
What is the problem with 2. for you? I mean, isn't the goal to be a good partner or just a good person in general?
What is the problem with 2. for you?
No. I mean apparently this ex moved all the way to the state with him. He was trying to make a life with her and she would never be intimate with him and just wanted to party and neglected him emotionally. Than one day she packed up all her stuff without saying anything and left him. I guess she tried to get back in but he has some serious animosity towards her obviously and told her to take a hike.
Again this was pillow talk. I didn't ask him about any of this he just vomited it all over me. ( which is fine I guess )
Than made a note that despite all that he is emotionally available. I was like okay...
It just feels like a lot after you add in the friend crush thing too.
Okay, if you don't plan to do any of those things, then what is the problem?
No, I would never treat someone like that.
The problem? Well I guess I just don't know I feel 100% yet.
You mean you currently haven't fallen in love 100% yet and are worried due to that?
That definetly makes more sense than your initial concerns.
If that is the underlying problem, I'm afraid I don't have a good solution for you because that is something I always struggle with as well.
I think all you can do is to ask yourself:
Do you like him as a person?
Do you like spending time with him?
Would you like to further explore your interactions with him?
If you are afraid of hurting him the aforementioned applies again: you will hurt him anyway at some point but you can decide in what context this pain will be.
Good point and good questions. I'm gonna be mulling over them all day. See how I feel. Disappoint than hurt though.
Can I ask what you mean when you say you struggle with it as well?
Yeah, that is the tragedy of a Sags life. 😛
As shitty as all of this may feel at the moment it is, and will always be, the essential ambrosia of life.
The more ypu struggle and suffer now the deeper your connection and feelings with/for him will become if you choose to take the flower road.
Sure. The way understood you is that you aren't sure about being in love or don't feel like feel like you have fallen in love. That's something I have always struggle with due to my inherent and deep seated distrust of my own emotions. I still haven't found a rule or parameter to evaluate at what point I can be sure that I am in love. Mostof the time I can't help but constantly fear that what I feel is not love nor attraction but something else. It takes me years of constant struggle to even accept that what I feel is indeed something akin to love.
I feel that hard. Well good luck to me and good luck to you, right? lol 😄
Yeah, but you can have my half of the luck for I have decided to abandon this front of life.
You seem to be more deserving of this luck anyway.
I don't know about that lol but us saggies are born w that Jupiter luck
So take at least a little Aqua 😄 😄 haha
lmao isn't Anti already HALF sag ? with his sagittarius mars and moon?
he dont need luck, he already has someclick to expand
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( It didn't use to be this way )
Guess I'm on a bad streak but when will it end?
The thing is, I think my virgo friend may like the pisces.
Since I met him through her and she was seeing his friend, her and that friend are no longer hanging out.
The last time we were all hanging out she kept saying what a great the pisces was and flirting with him. I thought maybe she was just drunk but the more I realize it may be something even though she was telling me to get with him.
Tonight at the pisces, it came up. He laughed and was like yeah kind of noticed that.
And I was like great, so you understand that out of loyalty and girl code if it's true I can't see you anymore.
Than he got really quiet and was a like your kidding right? That stuff is out of my control.
And I was like...no I'm not and yeah it is but it's the right thing to do.
And he goes she's a cool person but I'm into you like that not her.
And I was like well would you ever consider being with her?
And he was like NO.
Than he goes so when you tell her about us and if her reaction is bad are you just gonna fucking ghost me??
And I was like no! Look can you just see where I'm coming from?
And he got quiet again and than was like I really respect how loyal you are to you friends but I want to see you
And I was like okay well I'm gonna go
Than he was like please lay down and cuddle with me
And of course I do and than that lead to sex
Than I was like I really need to go and he's like stay the night and I'm like no
He's such a sweet boy forsure. But like I don't roll that way.
If there is any indication of drama possibilty I'm out.
I just want to do the right thing.
:/