At my wits end! (Page 3)

Posted by GetMisted

My gut says he's just being a douchebag about the situation. Why go to court (LIB) to get your things back, when he could be a little more mature about this and give her her things back?

Because there is nothing important to give back. She's trying to bluff him, and stated it.

She couldn't care a less about the laptop, because if she did ... then she wouldn't have left without it. So, when she says this ......

Posted by aqualady2

As for small claims court- To be honest getting money for the lap doesn't meet the emotional value of it. I don't know if you have any posessions that are meaningful to you, but that lap top means the world to me.

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... she's trying to also bluff people in here.




It's not rocket science, it's human nature .... if something is the world to you, you don't leave it behind.

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by GetMisted

My gut says he's just being a douchebag about the situation. Why go to court (LIB) to get your things back, when he could be a little more mature about this and give her her things back?

Because there is nothing important to give back. She's trying to bluff him, and stated it.

She couldn't care a less about the laptop, because if she did ... then she wouldn't have left without it. So, when she says this ......

Posted by aqualady2

As for small claims court- To be honest getting money for the lap doesn't meet the emotional value of it. I don't know if you have any posessions that are meaningful to you, but that lap top means the world to me.

Yes, one would question all of that, especially if this were also true:

Posted by aqualady2

That lap top was given to me by my grandmother before she passed away. It is filled with pictures of her and I, and I even have some of our final e-mails saved. Some of the pictures I have backed up elsewhere, but some I don't and I surely don't have the e-mails backed up. Not to mention that is my lap top I use for school. I actually wasn't able to finish a final project for this semester because I had to start from scratch, and just didn't have the time.

That's why I'm being so... aggressive getting my things. The rest of it can go into the trash for all I care. I just don't want anyone else using them. But that lap top...

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Meh. When he was humming and hawing and acting stupid about giving back your stuff you should have just gone and get it with the police since you already shot off at the mouth about it--oh yes, but that was just a bluff. People seem to like drama I suppose. Anyway, call the police as you claimed you would (since you don't believe he sent it), go get your stuff, and call it a day. And stop leaving your stuff at other people's house.

Because it's not there to return ... did you miss that memo?

As she claimed, she used this for school.

She didn't live with him, she visited on weekends ... so, if you are visiting your boyfriend, and you have your school computer with you, and you leave for the week to go back to school.

You don't leave your school computer.

why is that so hard to get?

She wouldn't leave it there, you wouldn't leave it there, I wouldn't leave it there ... to pick up later ... because "there" is a weekend thing, and it is needed DURING THE WEEK for school.


Maybe it is rocket science ..... and only a few of us are capable to putting two and two together.

Posted by GetMisted

He still has her lap top, no? Maybe I missed where she got it back?

wow


So, it's true, there are na??vely stupid Scorpios ... I would have never guessed in a million years.

Posted by GetMisted
She could have very well left it there thinking she would be back soon. Not that they were going to have a fight and split up.

Once again, that's all in the past. The question is why won't he return her belongings?

Because he's being immature. Well, maybe it's because he loves her---no, perhaps it's because he's still longing for her---no maybe a test? I got it, he's just a crazy arachnid. Do we really need pages upon pages to figure that out? It's pretty simple, if you want something back that belongs to you, then you get it back (or compensation). When she writers:

Posted by aqualady2

...I asked if we could talk about it, and then after a few days passed, I asked for my things. I probably requested them 4-5 times, before he finally started talking to me. Then when I asked if we could discuss me getting my stuff, his response was to tell me that he wasn't going to put a time frame on it, he would let me know, ...

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That already tells me who and what you're dealing with. It may be because I am a Scorp, who knows, so I realize I have to consider as an Aqua she may deal with things differently, but I will ask for my things once and then I get my shit. I'm not talking about it, I'm not going to be polite about it and ask you a million times over for my belongings. All of that^^^^ was because she wanted to get back together; iIt wasn't just about her getting her stuff returned. Is he acting immature, most certainly, but she knew that when he wouldn't return her calls and stated he "wasn't going to put a time frame" on giving back what belongs to her. So at that point, she could sit, wondered why he's acting this way, ask a bunch of friends and create a thread about it or go get her stuff if she really wanted it.

Posted by GetMisted

Why is everyone attacking her and defending the scorpio?



So, let's cut the shit here. Like I said, we only have one half of the story.

My gut says he's just being a douchebag about the situation. Why go to court (LIB) to get your things back, when he could be a little more mature about this and give her her things back?

First of all it's clear in my posts I'm not defending the Scorpio other than her fuck up. What I make perfectly clear is this is not about the lap top as she chose to make it 4 days and 8 pages later. Can see right through that bullshit. The way I see it and highly sense it, she left that shit there since November (Scorpio ends November 24th as she speaks of the birthday party) and whether or not there is a lap top there, it was her hopes for him to open the door to his place, allow her to come in (with the notion of picking up her shit), but really her goal is trying to work things out with him. He cut that off at the knee caps along with her. She states his mother will be mailing her shit. That was less than a week ago. It's Christmas season, people are busy. She's pissed he is not allowing her to come WHILE HE'S THERE to beg forgiveness. He knows this, and he's saying fuck you. Fuck you means FUCK YOU in Scorpio language. She is in denial over that. So yea..if (as she claims now) this is about her property, she needs to file a small claim and take his ass to court. No bullshit in between. Otherwise STFU!

Posted by GetMisted
In her original post, what she was asking for was insight into why this scorp man has frozen her out.

Appropiate responses include, but are not limited to:
-He still loves you
-He's keeping you on the line
-He's pissed at you and just wants to irritate you
-He's just a douche

Non-appropriate responses include, but are not limited to:
-You're a cunt
-You're a moron
-What idiot goes through someones phone

You say you're a Scorp? Interesting. This has the stench of the Sacred Trust bullshit rules of DXP and Seraph's vomit.

LIB will find a d*mn needle in a haystack I swear....lol.

Posted by GetMisted
I understand all that. What I don't undertand is P and LIBs need to continually attack this girl for her mistakes.

Yes, the police can be involved to get the stuff back, but there should be no reason for that, and that's on him.

Blame falls on both parties here. For both being immature and piss poor communicators.

"Need"? I point out the truth behind the deception. It's what I do. People generally don't like that here. I stand behind everything I said.

Blame falls on her. What she did is tresspass into his personal belongings without his permission. If you were a Scorpio, you'd understand that. What's ironic is you aren't responding to the poster but instead have climbed onto a big pile of horsehshit to critique what's been said by everyone other than the OP. There's a handful of people like you here that do that. Quite frankly you can shove your opinion on my opinion up your ass. Either respond to the OP or stfu!

Posted by GetMisted

In her original post, what she was asking for was insight into why this scorp man has frozen her out.

Appropiate responses include, but are not limited to:
-He still loves you
-He's keeping you on the line
-He's pissed at you and just wants to irritate you
-He's just a douche

Ok, I'll play your little game with you, and only because I'm bored at this moment.

So, Mr. Wizard ... show me evidence that all of that ^^^^^^ is true.

I realize she said it, but, I'm talking truth.


your turn ... AND ... only direct quotes where he agree that what she says is the truth will be accept.

ok - go .....

Posted by GetMisted
What is a sacred trust in regards to DXP.

This will sum it up:





corn and all..

Posted by GetMisted

Appropiate responses include, but are not limited to:
-He still loves you
-He's keeping you on the line
-He's pissed at you and just wants to irritate you
-He's just a douche

Because the truth is, that ^^^^ is you speculating.

Because you really have no fucking clue what he feels.

Seriously .... I never thought the day would come that I would run into a stupid Scorpio.

He's not a Scorpio.

Posted by P-Angel

He's not a Scorpio.

..beat ya to it 😉

lol

I'm still at the parts where she states that all of his family and friends wouldn't help her ... and then later says it was their idea for the party.

Like, how exactly can a person be a PARTNER and not know the people important in their life? She said that she didn't want to invite just anybody ... she wanted the important people.


And, as his girlfriend that she thinks she is ... she has no clue who these people are.
PLUS, nobody will help her.


That should have been suspect to everybody from the beginning that this is a deception.

...and I bet "he" is in fact a "she" 😕

lol ... I have 3 males in my family .. father, brother and son ... I may not know everything, but, I know how Scorpios work.

Ands?

who are you?


A previous poster?

no wonder you're such an idiot ... you try to hide, and only idiots do that

You don't exist after this second ... I don't suffer stupid people

Posted by GetMisted


She asked for insight about the scorp man (not the truth). The top comments are insight into the scorp man.

What she did not ask for, was an attack on her character, or what she did wrong. The bottom comments are attacks and what she did wrong (which she already knew going through his phone was wrong).

I'm sorry, but you can not get insight on a Scorp's (or anyone's actions) without exploring what you did wrong. Water signs mirror. Our actions are a reaction to what you are doing.

Posted by GetMisted

You just don't like to be called out for your spectulative and hateful comments is all. It's okay. I understand.

^^^was that suppose to be a Scorp come back?

Posted by GetMisted
You can give insight into a male scorps actions when you are one and have done that action yourself.

"We all know that Scorp men are very capable of doing things to irritate those who broke their trust e.g. holding an exes belongings hostage and telling them you'll return them without any intension of doing so (but with the intention of keeping them on the line)."

^^to which I have actually done

Cool, and where does personal responsibility come into play if you're only focused on him?

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Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by GetMisted
You can give insight into a male scorps actions when you are one and have done that action yourself.

"We all know that Scorp men are very capable of doing things to irritate those who broke their trust e.g. holding an exes belongings hostage and telling them you'll return them without any intension of doing so (but with the intention of keeping them on the line)."

^^to which I have actually done

Cool, and where does personal responsibility come into play if you're only focused on him?

It's in there.

"Who broke their trust"

I'm holding her accountable for snooping his phone, there by breaking his trust. While also giving insight into why he froze her out.

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My apology, I didn't see that. In any case, we can't control how we recieve information. You can pick and choose what you want to focus on because it doesn't sound as nicely as you would like, but you run the risk of not hearing what you need to hear. You also can't control how people want to deliver that advice, which you seem to be doing.

As well, I have yet to meet a Scorp that doesn't sniff out inconsistencies like a bloodhound and point it out. You can't get help with something without looking at what is really going on. Sorry.

Posted by GetMisted
I agree. But when she admits that snooping his phone was wrong, and even told him about it from guilt she felt, what else are we trying to figure out here?

She knows what she did was wrong. She needed reassurance that what he did is the reason for his behavior. But that doesn't call for nasty comments such as calling her a "cunt".

Leave the past where it belongs and learn the lesson it presents.

"Aqua, don't do it again. That's why he's doing what he's doing. Now, lets figure out how to get your laptop back. Have you tried having a civilized conversation with him in a NON-threatning way? No? Well then, call the police and have them escort you to his place and retrieve your belongings. Make sure you have documentation that proves they are actually your belongings."

Not: "Call the cops you moron and stop playing games. There's probably not even a laptop, or even a scorpio man for that matter, because Ican see through everthing. You're stupid."

they got together after that though, didnt they?

It was her being impatient with him and wanting her ex to say iluvupleazesayuluvmelikeuluvme2dayeverydayeverydayeveryday....repeat. She needs constant verbal communication.

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by GetMisted

He still has her lap top, no? Maybe I missed where she got it back?

wow


So, it's true, there are na??vely stupid Scorpios ... I would have never guessed in a million years.

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Look at you calling people stupid as if pisces is renowned for being the smartest sign of the zodiac. LOL! The dumbest person I know happens to be from your side of the pond. It's like they took the batter used to dip fish in before frying & poured it inside her skull to act as a brain 😢

Posted by GetMisted
I agree. But when she admits that snooping his phone was wrong, and even told him about it from guilt she felt...

Sorry, but I question if she knew it was wrong to go through his phone before people went in on her. She actually was trying to justify her actions in the beginning:

Posted by aqualady2
I went through his phone to see who he talks to the most to see who to invite, because I know scorpios only want to share certain things with certain people, and I found a lot of stuff I wasn't happy with. I had told him I never wanted to go through his phone, but I had to!...
From then on we fought. I told him what I had done. If I wouldn't have told him, he would've never known, but I did it because I felt really awful over what I saw.

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Which is why some people went at her sideways.

The above doesn't sound like she understood or did anything out of guilt. She felt awful over what she saw, not because of what she did. She only told him because it made her question if he still desired her. Not gulit.

Anyway, this thread went in all sort of directions, which I am sure she didn't want. I shared my advice.

Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by GetMisted
I agree. But when she admits that snooping his phone was wrong, and even told him about it from guilt she felt...

Sorry, but I question if she knew it was wrong to go through his phone before people went in on her. She actually was trying to justify her actions in the beginning:

Posted by aqualady2
I went through his phone to see who he talks to the most to see who to invite, because I know scorpios only want to share certain things with certain people, and I found a lot of stuff I wasn't happy with. I had told him I never wanted to go through his phone, but I had to!...
From then on we fought. I told him what I had done. If I wouldn't have told him, he would've never known, but I did it because I felt really awful over what I saw.

Which is why some people went at her sideways.

The above doesn't sound like she understood or did anything out of guilt. She was felt awful over what she saw, not because of what she did. She only told him because it made her question if he still desired her. Not gulit.

Anyway, this thread went in all sort of directions, which I am sure she didn't want. I shared my advice.

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What exactly is she to feel guilty about? She checked a phone, not murder a person..big deal. Plus people feel guilty when they know what they did was wrong. In this case, SHE doesn't feel like she did anything wrong since her intentions weren't to spy to begin with, so there's nothing to be guilty about.

If she did feel guilty then any traces of it were probably wiped out by what she saw. Would you still be feeling guilty after finding out that your man was talking to other females? Of course that would be put aside because your guilt makes you a good person, you have conscience... so why waste that on some who obviously has none? You must be a very kind person if you're going to still feel remorseful after all that.

Posted by WaterCup

Posted by PhoenixRising

Posted by GetMisted
I agree. But when she admits that snooping his phone was wrong, and even told him about it from guilt she felt...

Sorry, but I question if she knew it was wrong to go through his phone before people went in on her. She actually was trying to justify her actions in the beginning:

Posted by aqualady2
I went through his phone to see who he talks to the most to see who to invite, because I know scorpios only want to share certain things with certain people, and I found a lot of stuff I wasn't happy with. I had told him I never wanted to go through his phone, but I had to!...
From then on we fought. I told him what I had done. If I wouldn't have told him, he would've never known, but I did it because I felt really awful over what I saw.

Which is why some people went at her sideways.

The above doesn't sound like she understood or did anything out of guilt. She was felt awful over what she saw, not because of what she did. She only told him because it made her question if he still desired her. Not gulit.

Anyway, this thread went in all sort of directions, which I am sure she didn't want. I shared my advice.

What exactly is she to feel guilty about?

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I didn't state that she felt guilt, someone else did. In fact, I was stating that she didn't feel any guilt--nor was I suggesting that she should feel guilt.

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Posted by GetMisted
I agree. But when she admits that snooping his phone was wrong, and even told him about it from guilt she felt...

Sorry, but I question if she knew it was wrong to go through his phone before people went in on her. She actually was trying to justify her actions in the beginning:

Posted by aqualady2
I went through his phone to see who he talks to the most to see who to invite, because I know scorpios only want to share certain things with certain people, and I found a lot of stuff I wasn't happy with. I had told him I never wanted to go through his phone, but I had to!...
From then on we fought. I told him what I had done. If I wouldn't have told him, he would've never known, but I did it because I felt really awful over what I saw.

Which is why some people went at her sideways.

The above doesn't sound like she understood or did anything out of guilt. She was felt awful over what she saw, not because of what she did. She only told him because it made her question if he still desired her. Not gulit.

Anyway, this thread went in all sort of directions, which I am sure she didn't want. I shared my advice.

What exactly is she to feel guilty about?

I didn't state that she felt guilt, someone else did. In fact, I was stating that she didn't feel any guilt--nor was I suggesting that she should feel guilt.

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"In fact, I was stating that she didn't feel any guilt"..As if she should, hence why I asked the question you quoted.

Anything else she must have felt when she first touched that phone, be it guilt or whatever goody-goody feelings, got cancelled out because he is no person to beat yourself over about.

I'm surprised he is feeling faulted when he is the one watching people play with their vaginas when he has a girlfriend. Maybe he is the one feeling guilty for being caught out, reason why he's busy playing cat & mouse with her at the moment.

Posted by WaterCup

If she did feel guilty then any traces of it were probably wiped out by what she saw. Would you still be feeling guilty after finding out that your man was talking to other females? Of course that would be put aside because your guilt makes you a good person, you have conscience... so why waste that on some who obviously has none? You must be a very kind person if you're going to still feel remorseful after all that.

It would be hard to answer your question in the context you've present because I don't violate other people's privacy. If something is not being shared with me, it means —we??re not at that level yet??, so I don't force it. People are trying to excuse what she did because her intentions were good and shrug it off as —what's the big deal——Here's the thing though, privacy is a big deal to a Scorpio. If you can't understand that and respect it, cool, then don't roll with a Scorpio. I strongly believe that if you feel the need to look through your man or woman??s phone then there is an issue of trust—address it. Don't justify your actions with bullsh*t excuses. How can they be sooooo close that it "looks like she lives there", she is in contact with all of his family, is friends with some of his friends on FB, but doesn't know who the most important people are to invite to a party? Come on. That says a lot to me as a Scorp, namely there was a big issue of trust. Whether or not he fully trust her with his heart to fully commit, whether or not she trusted that he really loved her and it felt off so went snooping, whatever, the issues of trust could be any number of things, but I digress.

What you're suggesting above is that invading someone's privacy can be justified if she/he finds suspicious behaviour in the process of snooping. And if she/he doesn't find anything? Would it be okay to address the act of invading someone's privacy then?

...I feel like we're messing up her thread at this point, but I hate creating threads.

Im not justifying anything, I'm just addressing what took place here. She did check his phone & in doing so she found something...those are the facts that cannot be undone. Sadly.

I'm very aware that it's not good to snoop on anyone's personal belongings, but personally I wouldn't trust anyone who is too overprotective of his phone especially. I'd be like "what is he hiding?". Trust goes both ways. I think it's natural to be curious/suspicious when a person is being so secretive about such things.

Posted by WaterCup
Im not justifying anything, I'm just addressing what took place here. She did check his phone & in doing so she found something...those are the facts that cannot be undone. Sadly.

I'm very aware that it's not good to snoop on anyone's personal belongings, but personally I wouldn't trust anyone who is too overprotective of his phone especially. I'd be like "what is he hiding?". Trust goes both ways. I think it's natural to be curious/suspicious when a person is being so secretive about such things.

well phoenix rising is right. don't hang w/ a scorpio if you can't respect privacy.

he wasn't being overly protective either. He had the phone lying around and she just happened to have wanted to "check it" for her justified reasons. If she really really wanted, just ask him straight up, or in this case because it was a "surprise" just go to his family members or those close to him. I'm sure those close to him would be good at keeping things hush hush about the party.

i'm kind of going humm cause doesn't a phone have a private ID lock on it? how'd she get it?

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Posted by WaterCup
Im not justifying anything, I'm just addressing what took place here. She did check his phone & in doing so she found something...those are the facts that cannot be undone. Sadly.

I'm very aware that it's not good to snoop on anyone's personal belongings, but personally I wouldn't trust anyone who is too overprotective of his phone especially. I'd be like "what is he hiding?". Trust goes both ways. I think it's natural to be curious/suspicious when a person is being so secretive about such things.

well phoenix rising is right. don't hang w/ a scorpio if you can't respect privacy.

he wasn't being overly protective either. He had the phone lying around and she just happened to have wanted to "check it" for her justified reasons. If she really really wanted, just ask him straight up, or in this case because it was a "surprise" just go to his family members or those close to him. I'm sure those close to him would be good at keeping things hush hush about the party.

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What was the fight about then? I thought they fought because she touched his phone without his permission. Noone knows if he ever told her to never touch his phone or not. So if that was never discussed & she is his gf (not a stranger), then why not? How can she be guilty of breaking a code that was never set? I dont get it.

In "normal" relationships people touch each others things all the time & maybe the OP thought she was in such a relationship, or is used to such relationships. It's possible.

I know how scorps operate, they have double standards. They don't want other people to keep things from them, yet they keep things from other people. I'll bet all the change in piggy that he has either snooped through her phone while she was asleep, or is busy snooping through her laptop as we speak to search for "something"...probably to use against her to ease his own feelings of guilt...turn the tables on her. He'll say something along the lines of "Ya, I saw your old lesbian lover. Good times, huh?" etc...even though it's her granny.

It's because if you mess up the scorpio will suck off that while they do a bunch of bad shit simultaneously but thats all ok and justified because you "started it "

like so they both messed up and i'm sure if they both look back on both their actions they see why they are here now. That is how it goes.


But like Misted says past is past. Why won't he give the stuff back. Or who even cares why just how can she get it back.


If it's too much of this bullshit hassle than we all say let it go.

Posted by WaterCup

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by WaterCup
Im not justifying anything, I'm just addressing what took place here. She did check his phone & in doing so she found something...those are the facts that cannot be undone. Sadly.

I'm very aware that it's not good to snoop on anyone's personal belongings, but personally I wouldn't trust anyone who is too overprotective of his phone especially. I'd be like "what is he hiding?". Trust goes both ways. I think it's natural to be curious/suspicious when a person is being so secretive about such things.

well phoenix rising is right. don't hang w/ a scorpio if you can't respect privacy.

he wasn't being overly protective either. He had the phone lying around and she just happened to have wanted to "check it" for her justified reasons. If she really really wanted, just ask him straight up, or in this case because it was a "surprise" just go to his family members or those close to him. I'm sure those close to him would be good at keeping things hush hush about the party.

What was the fight about then? I thought they fought because she touched his phone without his permission. Noone knows if he ever told her to never touch his phone or not. So if that was never discussed & she is his gf (not a stranger), then why not? How can she be guilty of breaking a code that was never set? I dont get it.

In "normal" relationships people touch each others things all the time & maybe the OP thought she was in such a relationship, or is used to such relationships. It's possible.

I know how scorps operate, they have double standards. They don't want other people to keep things from them, yet they keep things from other people. I'll bet all the change in piggy that he has either snooped through her phone while she was asleep, or is busy snooping through her laptop as we speak to search for "something"...probably to use against her to ease his own feelings of guilt...turn the tables on her. He'll say something along the lines of "Ya, I saw your old lesbian lover. Good times, huh?" etc...even though it's her granny.

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LULZZZZ truth

But remember Water Cup with a statement like that you're just " deep " enough to get them ; )

Posted by Sag89
But remember Water Cup with a statement like that you're just " deep " enough to get them ; )

I have a scorpio moon lol so I know the drill. Turning the tables on people is a huge part of it when caught out. It's almost like when you're caught cheating & instead of being sorry, you then blame the other person for working too much or ask "why didn't you knock?" LOL!

this is kind of the best answer right here:

Posted by IrresistableScorp
Scorpions keep secrets.

If you were to delve into most scorpions lives you would find a few experiences they have had as rather surprising. If no one got hurt, then it's none of your business.

Posted by WaterCup
Im not justifying anything, I'm just addressing what took place here. She did check his phone & in doing so she found something...those are the facts that cannot be undone. Sadly.

I'm very aware that it's not good to snoop on anyone's personal belongings, but personally I wouldn't trust anyone who is too overprotective of his phone especially. I'd be like "what is he hiding?". Trust goes both ways. I think it's natural to be curious/suspicious when a person is being so secretive about such things.

I responded in the other thread.

Posted by WaterCup

Posted by Sag89
But remember Water Cup with a statement like that you're just " deep " enough to get them ; )

I have a scorpio moon lol so I know the drill. Turning the tables on people is a huge part of it when caught out. It's almost like when you're caught cheating & instead of being sorry, you then blame the other person for working too much or ask "why didn't you knock?" LOL!

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yerp lol

Posted by WaterCup

Posted by Sag89
But remember Water Cup with a statement like that you're just " deep " enough to get them ; )

I have a scorpio moon lol so I know the drill. Turning the tables on people is a huge part of it when caught out. It's almost like when you're caught cheating & instead of being sorry, you then blame the other person for working too much or ask "why didn't you knock?" LOL!

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the ol flip the script

It's not about the phone, and I have no idea why you people go on and on and on about the phone.


What it's about is that she plays an attention game with him because she still wants his attention .... and what the fuck kind of woman actually wants the man whom you just caught with his pants down?


But, you all keep talking about the phone ... but, then you don't have to address the real issue.