R1g0rM0rT1s
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as for the crab....he can get sex wherever and whenever he wants and has most certainly done so in the past. sex isn't a privileged act in his book and he didn't understand why i held back at all. i'm kinda knew he would take my sexual intensity the wrong way and so i waited until i actually FELT that intensity.....and i did...we both did 🙂
Posted by ellessque
I think that's your leo 🙂
I heard cancers don't wait 😛
Really? I've always felt the Leo was the ho of the zodiac and the Cancer was the little old lady, knitting in the rocking chair :p
Maybe Grandma was a slut after all? 😉
what i meant there was 2 groups, 1 group of ladies prefer casual sex on equal terms and another group of ladies against the idea and some undecided. its the liberals and the conservatives versus off and then i didn't care any more. i use the word prefer because people are entitled to their opinions. i also didn't mean sexual animals
i don't think so about that whole crab thing. there is some significance coming from some where and the sex seems like it was the tipping point
i don't think so about that whole crab thing. there is some significance coming from some where and the sex seems like it was the tipping point
Posted by HouseCleaning
what i meant there was 2 groups, 1 group of ladies prefer casual sex on equal terms and another group of ladies against the idea and some undecided. its the liberals and the conservatives versus off and then i didn't care any more. i use the word prefer because people are entitled to their opinions. i also didn't mean sexual animals
i don't think so about that whole crab thing. there is some significance coming from some where and the sex seems like it was the tipping point
you mean 3 groups lol!
Posted by AreTwoFour
I also want to go ahead and have sex and feel if there is a connection or not before I waste my time.
This is how I feel too, most of the time.
Let's see what you got. lol. I spent many years in a miserable sexual situation and I won't be repeating that any time soon.
That being said, not ever done it on the first date.
Never hooked up with a stranger, or randomly hooked up, either
Had a few FWB, a few relationships. I slept with my ex-husband on the second date. He still married me.
I was wondering where the original comment came from. Can you link it?
The way I read it, I think it is more about the guy than the girl. In fact, whenever I do "wait" with a guy it is more about how he will perceive it than how I feel about it. I generally dgaf one way or the other but I know how important it can be to be perceived as a "nice girl".
Posted by capgirl69Posted by AreTwoFour
I also want to go ahead and have sex and feel if there is a connection or not before I waste my time.
This is how I feel too, most of the time.
Let's see what you got. lol. I spent many years in a miserable sexual situation and I won't be repeating that any time soon.
That being said, not ever done it on the first date.
Never hooked up with a stranger, or randomly hooked up, either
Had a few FWB, a few relationships. I slept with my ex-husband on the second date. He still married me.
I was wondering where the original comment came from. Can you link it?
The way I read it, I think it is more about the guy than the girl. In fact, whenever I do "wait" with a guy it is more about how he will perceive it than how I feel about it. I generally dgaf one way or the other but I know how important it can be to be perceived as a "nice girl".click to expand
i just think that it shouldn't matter about anyone's perception of you other than your own. what is a 'nice girl' anyway? and why does being up tight make you nice?
i know this is an extreme attitude but in somalia they still have the practice of female circumcision which basically entails the removal of the labia and the clitoris with the vagina being stitched back together to leave the smallest hole only to be penetrated by the woman's husband. this practice is aimed at preventing women from experiencing the pleasure of sex that according to the culture could lead to promiscuity.
so basically these women are being deprived of the joy of celebrating their own sexuality. they are made to feel dirty for even having sexual urges and it's obvious to most in the western world that this is a barbaric and outrageous tradition.
nevertheless, i think society's attitudes to women and their sexuality still emanate from this extreme. women are made to feel LESS if they are overtly sexual and a moral standard is applied to them that isn't applied equally to men.
so as far as i'm concerned this overall view of women being cheap if they have multiple sexual partners is not a REAL perception but a cumulative generational attitude to women which belongs in the trash can with the attitude that women should be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
Rig- I hear you, and I can agree, but I don't think society is ready for that yet, at least not that I have seen.
So there is my very Capricorn-ish stance. I like to play by society's rules. Or at least when it matters. lol.
So there is my very Capricorn-ish stance. I like to play by society's rules. Or at least when it matters. lol.
Posted by DazedScorpPosted by IntriguedScorp
Well in my case as it so happens, if I end up in bed with someone we end up having a relationship. Just how it has generally worked in my case and that includes first date sex. However. First date is like months after I have spent time observing and know he'll be able to handle me.
This is me.
I generally know if I want to presue a relationship well before we have sex. It's either a NO, or a GO. And if it's a go, and we have sex (even if it's the first date), I'll likely give you a key to my place when you wake up... maybe breakfast too.click to expand
Interesting.
With the Scorp, I waited 4 dates, I think.
But he wanted to define things right away after. lol.
It all comes down to being honest with yourself. If you know who you are and what you can and cannot handle then you won't allow yourself to engage in behavior contrary to you own emotional threshold.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....but i beg to differ.
IF a woman uses sex as some kind of tool to seal a relationship deal then yeah, it's gonna backfire but if a woman finds a man attractive and wants him to fuck her for the same selfish reasons HE wants to fuck her...then what's the problem?
it's just that this 'theory' implies that women can't enjoy sex on a purely carnal level. am i really in the minority of women who can?
it's varied for me personally but i don't have a 'rule' as to when i'll sleep with someone, i let my body tell me...I decide. i can honestly say i've never been disrespected for it either.click to expand
I understand Rig. I actually wasn't implying she was being disrespected because of the sex. Sex is wonderful and it's okay to have sex. Some women form a powerful bond with a man after sex only to feel used when he's not responding consistently. I didn't want her to feel used.
Posted by QUlETstormPosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....
Is that what she was implying or is that just your perception of what she was implying?
The way I read it, I took it as "hopefully you haven't had sex with him" because it would only deepen the ties & feelings for him.
I admit I did not read the other thread, but from that sentence alone ^ that's how I took it.click to expand
This^^ That's exactly what I meant QS.
Posted by tiki33Posted by QUlETstormPosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....
Is that what she was implying or is that just your perception of what she was implying?
The way I read it, I took it as "hopefully you haven't had sex with him" because it would only deepen the ties & feelings for him.
I admit I did not read the other thread, but from that sentence alone ^ that's how I took it.
This^^ That's exactly what I meant QS.click to expand
This whole thread started from a misunderstanding? but if all this casual sex on equal terms was true, you women wouldn't have the time to be here and society would break down and cease to function. i wouldn't be able to buy my milk from the local store.
by having sex with him she's trapped herself with a toxic person. if she held out a little longer she probably would see the kind of nimrod she was getting herself involved with and kept walking by. who gets so emotionally attached through sex that they need to make a death threat to invoke control through fear; those animals i was talking about earlier. with that in mind it doesn't seem like this crab has had much contact with women. some of you other ladies are probably like, well i had my luck of the draw with a similar method and my relationships didn't come down to the same circumstances as R1g0rM0rT1s's. i will say good for you.
tbh i would've trapped myself with him whenever i had sex with him and he's unlikely to have revealed his dark side before we became intimate. his form of poison is triggered by intimacy and is set to slow release i think.
he's had plenty of involvement with women but all of his long term relationships have been either as the third party in adultery (not his) or has come about after the woman left the man she was cheating on with him. his father left when he was a young boy and he was an abusive alcoholic who used to beat his mother up. i don't think he has any trust in anyone...it's not just directed at females either. his motto is 'trust no-one, believe no-one'.
anyhow. i've had enough. tonight we had a huge fight over him not having correctly remembered a previous conversation we'd had. he accused me of saying things i hadn't at all....said i was a liar. the gist of what i was apparently lying about was having a goddamn discussion about my kids with my ex-husband..their father!!!! i was like....seriously? what would be the point of that lie in any case!!!
i was naked to fully dressed in a nano-second.
asshole 😢
he's had plenty of involvement with women but all of his long term relationships have been either as the third party in adultery (not his) or has come about after the woman left the man she was cheating on with him. his father left when he was a young boy and he was an abusive alcoholic who used to beat his mother up. i don't think he has any trust in anyone...it's not just directed at females either. his motto is 'trust no-one, believe no-one'.
anyhow. i've had enough. tonight we had a huge fight over him not having correctly remembered a previous conversation we'd had. he accused me of saying things i hadn't at all....said i was a liar. the gist of what i was apparently lying about was having a goddamn discussion about my kids with my ex-husband..their father!!!! i was like....seriously? what would be the point of that lie in any case!!!
i was naked to fully dressed in a nano-second.
asshole 😢
"he's had plenty of involvement with women but all of his long term relationships have been either as the third party in adultery (not his) or has come about after the woman left the man she was cheating on with him. "
That would have been my queue to move on. I just can't. He's too fucked up to start. Him revealing his toxic relationship patterns is a big intimacy red flag.
That would have been my queue to move on. I just can't. He's too fucked up to start. Him revealing his toxic relationship patterns is a big intimacy red flag.
Posted by tiki33
"he's had plenty of involvement with women but all of his long term relationships have been either as the third party in adultery (not his) or has come about after the woman left the man she was cheating on with him. "
That would have been my queue to move on. I just can't. He's too fucked up to start. Him revealing his toxic relationship patterns is a big intimacy red flag.
precisely why i'm not emotionally invested 🙂
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by capgirl69Posted by AreTwoFour
I also want to go ahead and have sex and feel if there is a connection or not before I waste my time.
This is how I feel too, most of the time.
Let's see what you got. lol. I spent many years in a miserable sexual situation and I won't be repeating that any time soon.
That being said, not ever done it on the first date.
Never hooked up with a stranger, or randomly hooked up, either
Had a few FWB, a few relationships. I slept with my ex-husband on the second date. He still married me.
I was wondering where the original comment came from. Can you link it?
The way I read it, I think it is more about the guy than the girl. In fact, whenever I do "wait" with a guy it is more about how he will perceive it than how I feel about it. I generally dgaf one way or the other but I know how important it can be to be perceived as a "nice girl".click to expand
i just think that it shouldn't matter about anyone's perception of you other than your own. what is a 'nice girl' anyway? and why does being up tight make you nice?
i know this is an extreme attitude but in somalia they still have the practice of female circumcision which basically entails the removal of the labia and the clitoris with the vagina being stitched back together to leave the smallest hole only to be penetrated by the woman's husband. this practice is aimed at preventing women from experiencing the pleasure of sex that according to the culture could lead to promiscuity.
so basically these women are being deprived of the joy of celebrating their own sexuality. they are made to feel dirty for even having sexual urges and it's obvious to most in the western world that this is a barbaric and outrageous tradition.
nevertheless, i think society's attitudes to women and their sexuality still emanate from this extreme. women are made to feel LESS if they are overtly sexual and a moral standard is applied to them that isn't applied equally to men.
so as far as i'm concerned this overall view of women being cheap if they have multiple sexual partners is not a REAL perception but a cumulative generational attitude to women which belongs in the trash can with the attitude that women should be in the kit
dammit it cut me off. I was saying I love that
*r
The warning signs were at the beginning
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
i've been seeing crabman for a few weeks. he's great fun to hang out with but he's just too intense sometimes. i told him i don't like 'defining' things too soon as people tend to cos it all smacks of staking a claim and personally, i want to be sure there's a long term prospect before any 'announcements' are made.
anyway, i felt i had to talk to him about someone who hurt me really badly and who was still fucking with my head not only because this man is a good friend of the crab but cos it's directly affecting my ability to trust anyone.
so we had a heart to heart about it all. it wasn't pleasant cos the crab got upset at the prospect that he was second best or that i was just hanging around until this other guy jerked my chain and i'd be off. he got so pissed off with the conclusion that he asked me to leave and he meant it. i refused to budge however as he'd totally misunderstood me. i wasn't telling him i had feelings for the other man but i was trying to tell him that i hadn't entirely dealt with what he had DONE to me. i told him that after a long marriage full of mis-communication and zero trust, i wanted to be with someone i can be completely honest with but i got the feeling in last night's discussion that i would've been better off editing what i said so that he didn't get hold of the wrong stick and run with it.
he said i offered him no assurance that i wanted to be with him and that all i'd said was that i didn't want to see the other dude. i dunno, it felt like everything i said made him feel more insecure but i've only known him 4 weeks!! to me that's no time at all, particularly as i've just moved and have had some business problems distracting me.
how do i slow things down without him misinterpreting that for no interest? it's for his benefit as well cos as i said to him i don't want to rush into anything when i'm still a little fucked up about what went on before cos that's when you're in danger of rebounding and i really do like him.
i'm worried that if he doesn't slow down the pace i'll end up really hurting him cos i feel suffocated already and i barely know him!!
Posted by HouseCleaning
The warning signs were at the beginning
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
i've been seeing crabman for a few weeks. he's great fun to hang out with but he's just too intense sometimes. i told him i don't like 'defining' things too soon as people tend to cos it all smacks of staking a claim and personally, i want to be sure there's a long term prospect before any 'announcements' are made.
anyway, i felt i had to talk to him about someone who hurt me really badly and who was still fucking with my head not only because this man is a good friend of the crab but cos it's directly affecting my ability to trust anyone.
so we had a heart to heart about it all. it wasn't pleasant cos the crab got upset at the prospect that he was second best or that i was just hanging around until this other guy jerked my chain and i'd be off. he got so pissed off with the conclusion that he asked me to leave and he meant it. i refused to budge however as he'd totally misunderstood me. i wasn't telling him i had feelings for the other man but i was trying to tell him that i hadn't entirely dealt with what he had DONE to me. i told him that after a long marriage full of mis-communication and zero trust, i wanted to be with someone i can be completely honest with but i got the feeling in last night's discussion that i would've been better off editing what i said so that he didn't get hold of the wrong stick and run with it.
he said i offered him no assurance that i wanted to be with him and that all i'd said was that i didn't want to see the other dude. i dunno, it felt like everything i said made him feel more insecure but i've only known him 4 weeks!! to me that's no time at all, particularly as i've just moved and have had some business problems distracting me.
how do i slow things down without him misinterpreting that for no interest? it's for his benefit as well cos as i said to him i don't want to rush into anything when i'm still a little fucked up about what went on before cos that's when you're in danger of rebounding and i really do like him.
i'm worried that if he doesn't slow down the pace i'll end up really hurting him cos i feel suffocated already and i barely know him!!click to expand
yes, i guess the signs were there. that was written before i'd had sex with him too. even s
Posted by NicroblizPosted by tiki33Cancer... toxic... notice a correlation?
"he's had plenty of involvement with women but all of his long term relationships have been either as the third party in adultery (not his) or has come about after the woman left the man she was cheating on with him. "
That would have been my queue to move on. I just can't. He's too fucked up to start. Him revealing his toxic relationship patterns is a big intimacy red flag.
click to expand
i don't think individuals are toxic as such...it's a combination of two personalities that brings about toxicity in a relationship.
as for the 'correlation'....that's hippocrates' fault lol.
or if you're trapped
but getting back to women and their fancies with this whole we want to have sex whenever without society's approval. now turning the spyglass the other way towards men, does society have that same expectation of men to not have sex as desired?
but getting back to women and their fancies with this whole we want to have sex whenever without society's approval. now turning the spyglass the other way towards men, does society have that same expectation of men to not have sex as desired?
I would think yes and it would be coming from the same women who want these men to bang their brains out. So you're all hypocrites and I don't like any of you
Posted by HouseCleaning
I would think yes and it would be coming from the same women who want these men to bang their brains out. So you're all hypocrites and I don't like any of you
allow me to answer the question before you decide i'm a hypocrite.
i don't want men to supress their carnal instincts just as i don't think women should. i simply think it's about time that sex is acknowledged as something that is shared between two individuals for pretty much the same reasons but usually with completely different expectations. women should stop thinking they're heading for a relationship if they fuck someone and men should stop assuming it's the be all and end all to the women they're fucking or that they've somehow 'conquered' them. sex isn't a game, a treat or a reward.....it's a basic human instinctive activity. if men OR women like sex with multiple partners (not at the same time, lol...that's greedy) it doesn't mean they're 'bad', it just means they are HUMAN!
there are a whole bunch of stereotype values which need blowing out of the water and we should be more concerned that whatever our sexual appetite or preferences, we respect ourselves and our partners.
furthermore, i don't think men are 'designed' for monogomy and society has tried to supress that through the institution of marriage
i think we've over-intellectualised ourselves as a species and we're now trying to fit square pegs into round holes.
i think we've over-intellectualised ourselves as a species and we're now trying to fit square pegs into round holes.
you don't take humor too well? ok expect for R1g0rM0rT1s, the rest of yous are hypocrites and I don't like any of yous
Posted by tiziani
With all due respect Rigormortis, it doesn't seem likely you're going to be part of any breaking of stereotypes with the amount of times you have contradicted yourself in this thread alone. And I mean that light-heartedly, but if anything you're reinforcing several stereotypes. You would have been better off just saying you're happy and leaving it at that.
I do agree, however, that every individual deserves to be respected. But you even contradicted that by listing a number of things that you feel others should or should not do, and what needs to be done as a society. Can't have it every single which way. Either you're happy or you're not.
can you be more specific about these contradictions?
having an opinion doesn't mean you disrespect a different one.
Posted by HouseCleaning
you don't take humor too well? ok expect for R1g0rM0rT1s, the rest of yous are hypocrites and I don't like any of yous
i take humour well if it's funny.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiziani
With all due respect Rigormortis, it doesn't seem likely you're going to be part of any breaking of stereotypes with the amount of times you have contradicted yourself in this thread alone. And I mean that light-heartedly, but if anything you're reinforcing several stereotypes. You would have been better off just saying you're happy and leaving it at that.
I do agree, however, that every individual deserves to be respected. But you even contradicted that by listing a number of things that you feel others should or should not do, and what needs to be done as a society. Can't have it every single which way. Either you're happy or you're not.
can you be more specific about these contradictions?
having an opinion doesn't mean you disrespect a different one.click to expand
to translate what he is saying, just as members of society tell others what they can and can't do with their vagina in this instance. you're telling other women they can do whatever as the please with their vagina. you can inject your ideas and opinions, but you would need to have a live and let live policy to be greater than society unless you're a part of the legislative, judicial, or executive branch of government. then you can come into a person's house and tell them how to live.
I haven't seen a comment of R1g0rM0rT1s's where she is telling people what they must do, she is strongly vocalizing her opinion. she hasn't told me what i should do with my vagina
Posted by tiziani
Not just the fact of telling others what they should do, but also the event of actually caring about what others are doing (just another form of caring what people think) whilst living her life style as she chooses.
And then there was the very first contradiction where she admitting she would never go back to having sex with an ex.
Even before DeeGee's intervention, I was not even tempting to list all the contradictions because there are too many to name and I'm not even tempted to debate them.
I guess my roundabout point is you've unwittingly proven people can't have unemotional sex, since there are a core of emotions, thoughts and experiences behind why we do what we do. And you've shared all your inner conflicts in this thread alone.
But like I said, sincerely whatever makes you happy. I'm not trying to tell anyone to change their life. I just think when you're happy doing what you're doing, you wouldn't need to elaborate on it towards anyone much less would it even be a debate lingering on your mind.
why is my wish not to have sex with an ex a contradiction? er...the sexual attraction died with the relationship? that's what usually happens i would've thought. if you're having sex with someone you WERE in a long term relationship with, you are clearly not moving on.
everyone, including housecleaning is entitled to do whatever they wish with their vagina....real or metaphoric. in fact, that's whay i'm trying to say in this thread...that you can do what you want with your vajayjay and should NOT be judged for it.
i just thought this was a discussion board that's all. what's the point in discussing issues we all agree on eh?
Posted by ellessquePosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by HouseCleaning
I would think yes and it would be coming from the same women who want these men to bang their brains out. So you're all hypocrites and I don't like any of you
allow me to answer the question before you decide i'm a hypocrite.
i don't want men to supress their carnal instincts just as i don't think women should. i simply think it's about time that sex is acknowledged as something that is shared between two individuals for pretty much the same reasons but usually with completely different expectations. women should stop thinking they're heading for a relationship if they fuck someone and men should stop assuming it's the be all and end all to the women they're fucking or that they've somehow 'conquered' them. sex isn't a game, a treat or a reward.....it's a basic human instinctive activity. if men OR women like sex with multiple partners (not at the same time, lol...that's greedy) it doesn't mean they're 'bad', it just means they are HUMAN!
there are a whole bunch of stereotype values which need blowing out of the water and we should be more concerned that whatever our sexual appetite or preferences, we respect ourselves and our partners.
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1 GAZILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT
FFS! I CANNOT +1 THIS ENOUGH (and might get it tattooed on my forehead!)click to expand
LOL!! your forehead isn't big enough for that spiel!
Posted by tiziani
Not just the fact of telling others what they should do, but also the event of actually caring about what others are doing (just another form of caring what people think) whilst living her life style as she chooses.
And then there was the very first contradiction where she admitting she would never go back to having sex with an ex.
Even before DeeGee's intervention, I was not even tempting to list all the contradictions because there are too many to name and I'm not even tempted to debate them.
I guess my roundabout point is you've unwittingly proven people can't have unemotional sex, since there are a core of emotions, thoughts and experiences behind why we do what we do. And you've shared all your inner conflicts in this thread alone.
But like I said, sincerely whatever makes you happy. I'm not trying to tell anyone to change their life. I just think when you're happy doing what you're doing, you wouldn't need to elaborate on it towards anyone much less would it even be a debate lingering on your mind.
aren't you contradicting yourself by correcting what R1g0rM0rT1s is saying though?
The thread was a topic about women being allowed to have sex as desired without any outside pressures to do otherwise. women were voicing their injustices of not being treated on equal levels in that department. not so much about emotional attachment and relationship development that was a side track
Posted by ellessquePosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by HouseCleaning
I would think yes and it would be coming from the same women who want these men to bang their brains out. So you're all hypocrites and I don't like any of you
allow me to answer the question before you decide i'm a hypocrite.
i don't want men to supress their carnal instincts just as i don't think women should. i simply think it's about time that sex is acknowledged as something that is shared between two individuals for pretty much the same reasons but usually with completely different expectations. women should stop thinking they're heading for a relationship if they fuck someone and men should stop assuming it's the be all and end all to the women they're fucking or that they've somehow 'conquered' them. sex isn't a game, a treat or a reward.....it's a basic human instinctive activity. if men OR women like sex with multiple partners (not at the same time, lol...that's greedy) it doesn't mean they're 'bad', it just means they are HUMAN!
there are a whole bunch of stereotype values which need blowing out of the water and we should be more concerned that whatever our sexual appetite or preferences, we respect ourselves and our partners.
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1 GAZILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT
FFS! I CANNOT +1 THIS ENOUGH (and might get it tattooed on my forehead!)click to expand
oh cool i also got a plus 1 GAZILLION EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT
Posted by tiziani
Not just the fact of telling others what they should do, but also the event of actually caring about what others are doing (just another form of caring what people think) whilst living her life style as she chooses.
And then there was the very first contradiction where she admitting she would never go back to having sex with an ex.
Even before DeeGee's intervention, I was not even tempting to list all the contradictions because there are too many to name and I'm not even tempted to debate them.
I guess my roundabout point is you've unwittingly proven people can't have unemotional sex, since there are a core of emotions, thoughts and experiences behind why we do what we do. And you've shared all your inner conflicts in this thread alone.
But like I said, sincerely whatever makes you happy. I'm not trying to tell anyone to change their life. I just think when you're happy doing what you're doing, you wouldn't need to elaborate on it towards anyone much less would it even be a debate lingering on your mind.
i think you misunderstand why i make threads. i make them simply for discussion. i don't come to dxp with a quandary or dilemna and expect others to give me solutions. i come here for 'fun' lol!! nothing i read here has much influence on my life tbh.
i'd be proper fucked up if it did!!
Posted by tiziani
I can't see anywhere where I've tried to correct anything Rigomortis was saying. I pretty much just wanted to point out I find it hard to believe there aren't emotions involved because her reasoning is riddled with contradictions.
And the idea of there being no emotion behind sex was my only real interest in this discussion (as it always is in my real life) and that's where my interests ends.
i'm not saying that ALL sex is emotionless. i was just pointing out that women are AS capable as men are of having sex just for the sake of having sex.
anyway, i also made the point in the thread somewhere that ALL long term relationships become stuck in emotionless sex after time. it doesn't mean you don't love the other person or that the sex is crap, it just becomes more of a natural component of the relationship...more like scratching an itch. you don't seriously think you sustain passionate boddice-ripping lovemaking for the long haul? it's usually the people who expect the spark to be there forever who end up looking for it outside a long term relationship.
sex isn't the only way we express love and that's important to remember. i love chocolate....don't wanna fuck it though.
this is what happens when you give the women the right to vote, now they want more
damn iron jawed angles with their women's suffrage movement
HouseCleaning you need to grudge fuck a scorp woman and put her in her place 😛
Posted by tiziani
Even though I wouldn't necessarily agree with calling it "emotionless"
well i was in a long term relationship of 20+ years and trust me....there are times when you'd rather be having a long soak in the bath but you give in to a quickie just to shut him up.
Posted by HouseCleaning
this is what happens when you give the women the right to vote, now they want more
i know right? give a woman an inch and she'll take a mile!
+ 5 (or 6 more inches)😛
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....but i beg to differ.
IF a woman uses sex as some kind of tool to seal a relationship deal then yeah, it's gonna backfire but if a woman finds a man attractive and wants him to fuck her for the same selfish reasons HE wants to fuck her...then what's the problem?
it's just that this 'theory' implies that women can't enjoy sex on a purely carnal level. am i really in the minority of women who can?
it's varied for me personally but i don't have a 'rule' as to when i'll sleep with someone, i let my body tell me...I decide. i can honestly say i've never been disrespected for it either.click to expand
Ro, you know damn well that most women cannot fuck a bloke for pleasure .. it's always for emotional gain. In theory, I would agree with you, but, in actuality, a woman is too desperate to be loved to be able to do as you proposed.
Second, tiki ALWAYS counsels to leave the man, no matter what is happening, that is always her advice. Even when the relationship is going strong, she'll still tell the woman to leave him.
Third, you have Elle riding your ovaries, and it's a very disgusting look, considering she's a known liar to this site.
Posted by P-AngelPosted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Hopefully you haven't had sex with him (sorry for implying that you did). Cut your losses if he's not responding to you in a positive consistent way then there is no reason to continue.
this kind of comment pisses me off....no offence tiki cos you're just saying what is a popular theory...that women who give it up too soon are gonna get disrespected as a result....but i beg to differ.
IF a woman uses sex as some kind of tool to seal a relationship deal then yeah, it's gonna backfire but if a woman finds a man attractive and wants him to fuck her for the same selfish reasons HE wants to fuck her...then what's the problem?
it's just that this 'theory' implies that women can't enjoy sex on a purely carnal level. am i really in the minority of women who can?
it's varied for me personally but i don't have a 'rule' as to when i'll sleep with someone, i let my body tell me...I decide. i can honestly say i've never been disrespected for it either.click to expand
Ro, you know damn well that most women cannot fuck a bloke for pleasure .. it's always for emotional gain. In theory, I would agree with you, but, in actuality, a woman is too desperate to be loved to be able to do as you proposed.
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well i agree that the majority of women aren't able to fuck a bloke purely for pleasure. i'm not even sure why god made it possible for women to orgasm seeing as most of them can take it or leave it unless it comes with a commitment.
Posted by AreTwoFour
HouseCleaning you need to grudge fuck a scorp woman and put her in her place 😛
r24 have you been motor boated before?
No. If urban dictionary is correct...
"motorboat:
v. int. The act of pushing one's face in between two ample breasts, and rocking one's head side to side very rapidly while making a vigorous, lip-vibrating "brrr" sound."
That makes lol and want to get on board with the program
"motorboat:
v. int. The act of pushing one's face in between two ample breasts, and rocking one's head side to side very rapidly while making a vigorous, lip-vibrating "brrr" sound."
That makes lol and want to get on board with the program
You gonna need a life jacket 😛
Lol
those jugs of plenty
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