every scorpio in my life is self destructing. all at once.

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1. my wife and i have been married since october now. i've attempted to get my stuff situated this whole time so we can move to canada together. no matter how many different places i've tried to get my birth certificate i cannot. had to get an entirely new id. still no go. she was forced to leave the country. i had been having dreams for months that horrible things would happen. gave her my covid money and told her to not give it to her current roommate/ex (sag) as he was about to relapse and would blame it on her and try to destroy her. talked to her about it before we drove her to the border. talked to her about it before i sent her the money. told her to use it to get a new place to live. she agreed. then she gave the entire thing to him. i told her again, many times to find some other place. they drank together one night as she didn't see it as a big deal. despite him being sober for a few years. i told her AGAIN what was about to happen. then one day he asked her to pity fuck him. she told me and i told her she had to leave immediately as she wasn't safe. she decided to go to her moms house instead of a women's shelter like i suggested. she said she'd be fine at her moms until a day or two when she could go to a friends house. i told her AGAIN that if she goes there that something horrible would happen. she went to her moms. i had her promise me she wouldn't let her mom (virgo) convince her to go back to the roommates house. and that if she did the person who agreed to let her stay with her would not let her do it, because she's trash- assuming she lived through the night.

she went back to the roommates house, after i went to sleep. she was assaulted by a different ex (taurus) and was almost killed. (we found out later the sag invited him in cuz he was lonely and wanted to hang out, despite hating him for years previously) he tore out tons of her hair and there was blood everywhere. she sent me the pics. she tried to call me and my phone was accidentally put on silence cuz of the iphone bullshit with the silence button and i'd just gotten a new case for it and didn't realize i'd done it. she contacted my sister. my sister tried to call me. woke me up in the morning when she's gotten home from work. i already knew what happened. as it's just as i'd dreamed. i sent her money for about a week so she could stay at a hotel.

the friend refused to let her to let her stay. while she was at the hotel she met a woman who she thought was a guardian angel. that fell through of course. then she found a place with a supposedly pansexual woman who had a history of domestic violence. we borrowed money from my wife's mother and she moved in, as i had spent every dime i had keeping her safe. i felt something was off and told her so and not to do anything like go and drink or party at all as i knew this person was a nutcase. and that we'd likely have to leave at a moments notice.

was only there a few days before it became clear that the woman was bff with her supposedly abusive ex. my wife went out one night and got drunk with a friend. and didn't come home until the next day. i had sent the woman a message on battlenet (we all play world of warcraft) asking for the mailing address as i was going to report the ex that tried to kill her for cyber assault and harassment as he sent me a ton of abusive messages and since it was gonna be my address in a few weeks i'd need to give it to homeland security. she unloaded all this crazy shit onto me and threatened to kick my wife out as she didn't feel safe cuz my wife brought 'strange men" (friends of hers as she is living where she's from originally, right now) and said she felt unsafe and accused my wife of being unfaithful. i tried to calm the situation down. she forgave her, or whatever. then the last two days the woman barged into my wife's room and told her about how "scared" she was of the ex. today my wife woke up and he was there all day (the ex is an unmedicated schizophrenic she made move out cuz he tried to kill her, who is now homeless and constantly on meth) eventually he walked into her room without permission and demanded money. she said she didn't have cash. he then demanded she go to the store. she said she wouldn't.

i confronted the woman about it as she was the landlord and reminded her that she is legally responsible to keep tenants safe and she went totally crazy and again threatened to kick my wife out. refused to give her the deposit back. removed both of us from bnet. she then sent me a ton of abusive messages again trying to tell me my wife was cheating and i was crazy for putting up with it. she then lied about barging into the room. i was on video when she did it. she didn't knock, she just walked in. and she proceeded to try to gaslight both of us.

told my wife to not respond at all and to call her mother. my wife is currently at her moms house. we had a big discussion about why she's been so self destructive. she said she was afraid i'd never actually go out there. that that was why she was being so reckless. we had a big heart to heart and i'm hoping she's gotten through whatever this was. i cannot sleep right now because i've spent every dime i have to try to keep her safe and if her mom gets a wild hair up her ass i cannot save her this time. i am all out of options until the 1st. and as she's seen, things can literally change in an hour or two. doesn't take days. after everything we went through the last couple of weeks (yes, from the "pity fuck me" to now is a couple of weeks) that she knows to just trust the things i say. as they do really happen. i'm scared to fuck that my wife's mother will do some stupid shit cuz her husband is homophobic and i won't be able to do anything.

2. i told my sister almost a year ago, and many times a month since, to find a new place to live as the woman who is our landlady is a psychopath. she threatened to kick my sister out if she didn't pay to get the floors redone and to do the installation. she has it done. lady said if she did she could stay indefinitely. she paid for it. did the work. it's all done. the woman gave my sister til august 1st, as i said she would. since that's when in our state the covid housing protection thing ends. my sister has refused because she said she wouldn't leave the animals or rehome them. i've told her many many times this bitch was nuts and she'd end up homeless and she'd lose the animals anyway. which is what's about to happen, i guess. currently riding my sisters ass to find a new place before i go to canada. (covid stuff changed so all i need now is my id and my birth certificate. contacted az and am working on that as much as i can. can be there sometime early next month if the motherfuckers will actually send it to me this time)

3. my cousin tried to kill herself. again, because of an abusive partner. dealing with that whole thing. she's never interacted with me much because i was 16 when she was born. my mom cut us off from most of that part of the family. and essentially since my mom died i've been in one crisis after another and hadn't thought to reach out. her mother asked me to, so i did. that situation has gone wildly out of control too and i'm just trying to keep her alive at this point. she also has bipolar. and yeah.

4. my aunt (my cousins mother) is also having a total dark night of the soul right now but she knows that i "know" things so she's mostly been doing what i suggested. but still because she's a stubborn ass scorpio she is still doing shit that i've said would have a specific outcome, and it has.

it feels like i am channeling so much shit through me right now but the only person taking me seriously at all is my aunt. my mother had the sight as well. could know what was about to happen. i hadn't dealt with it for years cuz i was medicated. haven't really been in a year or so because of situations i won't discuss. i almost died this year. and have been suicidally depressed, otherwise. but through sheer force of will i am trying to keep this together and keep everyone safe. if i had taken my meds i likely wouldn't have known any of this was about to happen. if my wife wasn't able to siphon my ridiculously good luck she'd also not be alive. she said she knew that that was all that kept her alive when she was doing all the self destructive shit.

i honestly feel like the scorpios in my life, despite seeing over and over again that things happen the way i say they will, see me as some sort of boy who cried wolf. i haven't had a moments rest or peace because they're all just doing whatever they can to destroy themselves.

every time one of them feels someone is "safe" and good they aren't. every time i tell them the person will hurt them and what kind of person they actually are, no one believes me.

i've cut off almost everyone else in my life except my wife, my aunt, my sister, and my pisces bff who is also bff with my wife. talking to my cousin a bit as well but.... a friend from dxp was the last one. obsessed with things being equal. was mad i didn't immediately respond to unimportant shit. realized they'd never change. and now with all of this that happened it just reinforced all the things i'd thought about all the people i'd cut off. was showing with my actions how important it is to remove people from your life that don't care about you and to not project caring about you onto them, to my wife. when someone tells you who they are you should believe them.

my wife's saturn return started right as she was told she had to leave. doesn't end until jan of next year. told her that until then that literally every single thing she does will have an immediate and drastic consequence. yall are ruled by pluto and deal with the hands of fate in a way no one else does. the whole thing though. jfc. all i want is for people to be safe.
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Posted by bmoon8

Scorpios have an inner self-destruct button that they push from time to time. Usually, it is when they feel guilt.

Funny. I needed a new birth certificate and was able to easily get a new one mailed to me from the state I was born in. Why is this so hard for you?

https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/vital-records/index.php

Have you ordered one from the website it says on here?


yes. sent them a pic of my old id my sisters dog had chewed. they refused it. refunded. sent them the pic of the paper id they give you that is legal id. they refused it. refunded just on and on. i've contacted them about it multiple times. they don't respond. the thing sends me to vital check and no matter what i do they don't accept any id that i have.
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Scorpios have an inner self-destruct button that they push from time to time. Usually, it is when they feel guilt.

Funny. I needed a new birth certificate and was able to easily get a new one mailed to me from the state I was born in. Why is this so hard for you?

https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/vital-records/index.php

Have you ordered one from the website it says on here?

yes. sent them a pic of my old id my sisters dog had chewed. they refused it. refunded. sent them the pic of the paper id they give you that is legal id. they refused it. refunded just on and on. i've contacted them about it multiple times. they don't respond. the thing sends me to vital check and no matter what i do they don't accept any id that i have.

Yes, I used that vitalchek website and got my birth certificate. Do you have a driver’s license?
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no, i don't drive. mine is a montana state id. as that is where i'm living right now.
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As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

It's his writing style - it's relentless. I barely made it through the first sentence
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i've written the same way the entire 10 or so years i've been off and on dxp. not sure why now people can't deal with it.
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Scorpios have an inner self-destruct button that they push from time to time. Usually, it is when they feel guilt.

Funny. I needed a new birth certificate and was able to easily get a new one mailed to me from the state I was born in. Why is this so hard for you?

https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/vital-records/index.php

Have you ordered one from the website it says on here?

yes. sent them a pic of my old id my sisters dog had chewed. they refused it. refunded. sent them the pic of the paper id they give you that is legal id. they refused it. refunded just on and on. i've contacted them about it multiple times. they don't respond. the thing sends me to vital check and no matter what i do they don't accept any id that i have.

Yes, I used that vitalchek website and got my birth certificate. Do you have a driver’s license?

no, i don't drive. mine is a montana state id. as that is where i'm living right now.

Order another ID from the state of AZ. I still have a driver’s license from that state with an old address from my current state. The driver’s license from there does not expire until you are 65 years old.

Use that AZ ID?

Have you tried this?
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my mom suggested i throw it away when i got my first montana id as i'd had it since i was a teen and wouldn't "need" it. she also made me give her my birth certificate because she was afraid i'd lose it. i took care of her until she died. didn't think anything of it at the time. but now, boy do i regret shit. after she died i looked for the birth certificate. around the house. in our box at the bank. in all of her stuff. my stuff. my sisters stuff. things that weren't at all related. she lost it at some point and i have no way of knowing how or when.
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As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?
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i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*
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Posted by ImperfectStorm
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Posted by Wizardz
Posted by ImperfectStorm

As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

It's his writing style - it's relentless. I barely made it through the first sentence

i've written the same way the entire 10 or so years i've been off and on dxp. not sure why now people can't deal with it.

Are you scorchedearth? What was your name previously?

Yes, that is her previous username.
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also somehow my social security card came up missing despite it having been in my wallet for years. no one else is in the house but my sister. she doesn't touch my shit. sent the az people pictures of every single thing otherwise. related to who i am, my marriage, the official email/other notifications we got when my wife having to leave, her stuff. everything. i honestly feel like there's some huge reason why this is happening to me but i just can't see. i can't call them until monday. if i can talk to someone in arizona and give them my ssn and other things i'm hoping i can just get it expedited.
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Posted by ImperfectStorm
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Posted by ImperfectStorm

As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?

i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*

I didn’t know that was you! You were one of my favorites way back when I was quietstorm lol welcome back! I haven’t heard any gossip but I’m in and out on here too
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thanks! my post was mostly me venting about how my wife is going through her saturn return and how yall get god smacked when you do shit you're not supposed to. dealing with mine felt like a walk in the park, comparatively. then the other shit on top of it. just... fucking scorpios. lol

i've always liked you too. hope you've been well. 🙂
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Posted by ImperfectStorm

As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?

i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*

I didn’t know that was you! You were one of my favorites way back when I was quietstorm lol welcome back! I haven’t heard any gossip but I’m in and out on here too

thanks! my post was mostly me venting about how my wife is going through her saturn return and how yall get god smacked when you do shit you're not supposed to. dealing with mine felt like a walk in the park, comparatively. then the other shit on top of it. just... fucking scorpios. lol

i've always liked you too. hope you've been well. 🙂

She is still pretty young.. she will find her way. Now that I think about it, I guess I did have some dark days back in my 20s and received that “godsmack” a time or two 😂😂
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mine was mostly about learning boundaries. took 57934753485 years but i finally have strong ones. and what it's done is let me be an example of how it's okay to remove people from your life if they're not good for you. to a few different people. my life purpose is general is about service/sacrifice. so it's kinda fitting that the shit i was supposed to learn was just as much for others benefit as my own. lol

what happened with yours? do you remember?
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Posted by scorchy
Posted by ImperfectStorm

As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?

i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*

I didn’t know that was you! You were one of my favorites way back when I was quietstorm lol welcome back! I haven’t heard any gossip but I’m in and out on here too

thanks! my post was mostly me venting about how my wife is going through her saturn return and how yall get god smacked when you do shit you're not supposed to. dealing with mine felt like a walk in the park, comparatively. then the other shit on top of it. just... fucking scorpios. lol

i've always liked you too. hope you've been well. 🙂

What house is Saturn in? In her chart.
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Saturn Aquarius 12°37'54 in house 5 direct



her entire chart:

planet sign degree motion

Sun Scorpio 24°04'49 in house 3 direct

Moon Leo 7°10'15 in house 11 direct

Mercury Sagittarius 6°31'25 in house 3 retrograde

Venus Capricorn 3°11'49 in house 4 direct

Mars Cancer 26°33'40 in house 11 direct

Jupiter Libra 7°14'11 in house 1 direct

Saturn Aquarius 12°37'54 in house 5 direct

Uranus Capricorn 15°15'06 in house 4 direct

Neptune Capricorn 16°50'32 in house 4 direct

Pluto Scorpio 22°54'57 in house 3 direct

True Node Sagittarius 21°45'12 in house 4 direct



mine

planet sign degree motion

Sun Taurus 8°15'44 end of house 2 direct

Moon Aries 7°04'35 in house 2 direct

Mercury Aries 28°16'52 in house 2 retrograde

Venus Aries 25°17'58 in house 2 direct

Mars Scorpio 25°05'46 in house 9 retrograde

Jupiter Capricorn 12°57'33 in house 11 stationary (R)

Saturn Scorpio 13°27'23 in house 9 retrograde

Uranus Sagittarius 12°52'30 in house 10 retrograde

Neptune Capricorn 1°14'51 in house 11 retrograde

Pluto Scorpio 0°31'59 in house 8 retrograde

True Node Gemini 6°50'52 in house 4 retrograde
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As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?

i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*

I didn’t know that was you! You were one of my favorites way back when I was quietstorm lol welcome back! I haven’t heard any gossip but I’m in and out on here too

thanks! my post was mostly me venting about how my wife is going through her saturn return and how yall get god smacked when you do shit you're not supposed to. dealing with mine felt like a walk in the park, comparatively. then the other shit on top of it. just... fucking scorpios. lol

i've always liked you too. hope you've been well. 🙂

She is still pretty young.. she will find her way. Now that I think about it, I guess I did have some dark days back in my 20s and received that “godsmack” a time or two 😂😂

mine was mostly about learning boundaries. took 57934753485 years but i finally have strong ones. and what it's done is let me be an example of how it's okay to remove people from your life if they're not good for you. to a few different people. my life purpose is general is about service/sacrifice. so it's kinda fitting that the shit i was supposed to learn was just as much for others benefit as my own. lol

what happened with yours? do you remember?

Does the Saturn return always happen around the age of 28? I met my sons dad when I was 28. I don’t remember anything specific that stands out to me about that time. It started as a FWB arrangement and didn’t evolve into an actual relationship until about 2 years later. Maybe I was supposed to learn that lesson then but missed the memo 😂 I’m 40 now and currently learning about boundaries. They still don’t come natural to me.

My south node is Aquarius and my north node is Leo, so when I looked that up, I read that in my past life I was very self-sacrificial with helping people and in this life I am supposed to assert myself instead of always putting others before myself. I still have a ways to go 😅 I’m a work in progress. I’ve learned that I have some codependency issues.
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have you done a thorough reading of your charts? seems like it was karmic!
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As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?

i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*

I didn’t know that was you! You were one of my favorites way back when I was quietstorm lol welcome back! I haven’t heard any gossip but I’m in and out on here too

thanks! my post was mostly me venting about how my wife is going through her saturn return and how yall get god smacked when you do shit you're not supposed to. dealing with mine felt like a walk in the park, comparatively. then the other shit on top of it. just... fucking scorpios. lol

i've always liked you too. hope you've been well. 🙂

What house is Saturn in? In her chart.

Saturn Aquarius 12°37'54 in house 5 direct



her entire chart:

planet sign degree motion

Sun Scorpio 24°04'49 in house 3 direct

Moon Leo 7°10'15 in house 11 direct

Mercury Sagittarius 6°31'25 in house 3 retrograde

Venus Capricorn 3°11'49 in house 4 direct

Mars Cancer 26°33'40 in house 11 direct

Jupiter Libra 7°14'11 in house 1 direct

Saturn Aquarius 12°37'54 in house 5 direct

Uranus Capricorn 15°15'06 in house 4 direct

Neptune Capricorn 16°50'32 in house 4 direct

Pluto Scorpio 22°54'57 in house 3 direct

True Node Sagittarius 21°45'12 in house 4 direct



mine

planet sign degree motion

Sun Taurus 8°15'44 end of house 2 direct

Moon Aries 7°04'35 in house 2 direct

Mercury Aries 28°16'52 in house 2 retrograde

Venus Aries 25°17'58 in house 2 direct

Mars Scorpio 25°05'46 in house 9 retrograde

Jupiter Capricorn 12°57'33 in house 11 stationary (R)

Saturn Scorpio 13°27'23 in house 9 retrograde

Uranus Sagittarius 12°52'30 in house 10 retrograde

Neptune Capricorn 1°14'51 in house 11 retrograde

Pluto Scorpio 0°31'59 in house 8 retrograde

True Node Gemini 6°50'52 in house 4 retrograde

House of romance/dating/entanglements… makes sense now. Her Saturn is also opposing her Moon. Does she deal with depression?
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yes. and its made worse by the fact that she tries to be bff with everyone she's ever dated. some exes you can be friends with. not all though. pretty much everyone from my op except me, her mother, and that crazy lady are all her exes.
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As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?

i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*

I didn’t know that was you! You were one of my favorites way back when I was quietstorm lol welcome back! I haven’t heard any gossip but I’m in and out on here too

thanks! my post was mostly me venting about how my wife is going through her saturn return and how yall get god smacked when you do shit you're not supposed to. dealing with mine felt like a walk in the park, comparatively. then the other shit on top of it. just... fucking scorpios. lol

i've always liked you too. hope you've been well. 🙂

She is still pretty young.. she will find her way. Now that I think about it, I guess I did have some dark days back in my 20s and received that “godsmack” a time or two 😂😂

mine was mostly about learning boundaries. took 57934753485 years but i finally have strong ones. and what it's done is let me be an example of how it's okay to remove people from your life if they're not good for you. to a few different people. my life purpose is general is about service/sacrifice. so it's kinda fitting that the shit i was supposed to learn was just as much for others benefit as my own. lol

what happened with yours? do you remember?

Does the Saturn return always happen around the age of 28? I met my sons dad when I was 28. I don’t remember anything specific that stands out to me about that time. It started as a FWB arrangement and didn’t evolve into an actual relationship until about 2 years later. Maybe I was supposed to learn that lesson then but missed the memo 😂 I’m 40 now and currently learning about boundaries. They still don’t come natural to me.

My south node is Aquarius and my north node is Leo, so when I looked that up, I read that in my past life I was very self-sacrificial with helping people and in this life I am supposed to assert myself instead of always putting others before myself. I still have a ways to go 😅 I’m a work in progress. I’ve learned that I have some codependency issues.

have you done a thorough reading of your charts? seems like it was karmic!

Yes our relationship with definitely karmic. His Pluto is opposite my vertex and his vertex square my sun. His Venus conjunct my south node. He was the Capricorn that initially brought me to dxp back in 2010 when I was trying to understand him better. I was with him for over 10 years and we have a son together now.
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did you check before or after? for me, i used to do charts to death at the start. then when i met my wife she didn't like dxp and thought everyone was a fucking asshole and then i stopped coming here and stopped thinking about astrology at all. i have no idea how our charts interact beyond casual eyeballing. as i had decided to see what would happen if i just accepted her as she is and didn't ruin it with preconceived notions. for me i had always wanted a leo moon/water mars combo. which she has. but i couldn't tell you the degrees or how they interact with each other or anything. if she dies before i do i'll run a chart then, i suppose. lol
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Wait wait wait. Is this the Taurus I think it is? If so, you ended up with a Scorpio?? Plot twist of the century. Congrats on your marriage either way!!

I don’t have anything really to say other than you seem very calm and like you have taken everything in stride. Good job. On the flip side your wife is… definitely something different🥴❤️


if you think i'm the one that had a stroke over your age + a self destructive virgo fetish, you're correct!

thank you btw.

my wife knows of you as the only not evil virgo i've ever befriended.
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I feel like one of my most self-sabotaging characteristics has been that I will miss out on potential new opportunities because I tend to cling to what I know. Around that same time when I was 29-30, I met an Aries sun, cancer moon and Pisces Venus. Our attraction was extremely strong, I liked him sooo much. But I was already involved with the Capricorn at that time, even though cap ex still wasn’t calling me his girlfriend yet. But I still stayed loyal to him and blocked out the Aries even though I felt such a strong pull toward him. I basically turned away a lot of good men with potential for someone who was not committing to me and I find that I still do this.. I put all my eggs in one basket before they have a chance to reciprocate and I’m learning that’s one of my biggest downfalls. Lol

My mom died in 2009 though, a few months before my 29th birthday so I think that was around the time of my Saturn return too.


thats something i think a lot of women go through, myself included. we want someone to love us as we love them. and try to make them. but we can't. love is freely given. took me until i was 36 years old to find the right one. and i kissed a lot of toads before that point. so i get it.

how are you dealing with the loss of your mom? mine died last april and it still feels very fresh. i hope it doesn't feel like this forever.
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As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

she's 28. going through her saturn return.

i'm the same as i have always been. taurus sun, aries moon, aqua asc. scorpio and aries dominant.

You say “I’m the same as I’ve always been” like I know you 😂

My Saturn return was pretty boring compared to this situation. The base of the relationship doesn’t sound very stable to begin with. Why are you married to someone that is living with her ex?

i'm scorchedearth. there's always gossip going on about me in pms even when i haven't been around for year or more. i've had brand new users talk to me as if i knew them personally and kicked their dogs. *shrug*

I didn’t know that was you! You were one of my favorites way back when I was quietstorm lol welcome back! I haven’t heard any gossip but I’m in and out on here too

thanks! my post was mostly me venting about how my wife is going through her saturn return and how yall get god smacked when you do shit you're not supposed to. dealing with mine felt like a walk in the park, comparatively. then the other shit on top of it. just... fucking scorpios. lol

i've always liked you too. hope you've been well. 🙂

What house is Saturn in? In her chart.

Saturn Aquarius 12°37'54 in house 5 direct



her entire chart:

planet sign degree motion

Sun Scorpio 24°04'49 in house 3 direct

Moon Leo 7°10'15 in house 11 direct

Mercury Sagittarius 6°31'25 in house 3 retrograde

Venus Capricorn 3°11'49 in house 4 direct

Mars Cancer 26°33'40 in house 11 direct

Jupiter Libra 7°14'11 in house 1 direct

Saturn Aquarius 12°37'54 in house 5 direct

Uranus Capricorn 15°15'06 in house 4 direct

Neptune Capricorn 16°50'32 in house 4 direct

Pluto Scorpio 22°54'57 in house 3 direct

True Node Sagittarius 21°45'12 in house 4 direct



mine

planet sign degree motion

Sun Taurus 8°15'44 end of house 2 direct

Moon Aries 7°04'35 in house 2 direct

Mercury Aries 28°16'52 in house 2 retrograde

Venus Aries 25°17'58 in house 2 direct

Mars Scorpio 25°05'46 in house 9 retrograde

Jupiter Capricorn 12°57'33 in house 11 stationary (R)

Saturn Scorpio 13°27'23 in house 9 retrograde

Uranus Sagittarius 12°52'30 in house 10 retrograde

Neptune Capricorn 1°14'51 in house 11 retrograde

Pluto Scorpio 0°31'59 in house 8 retrograde

True Node Gemini 6°50'52 in house 4 retrograde

House of romance/dating/entanglements… makes sense now. Her Saturn is also opposing her Moon. Does she deal with depression?

yes. and its made worse by the fact that she tries to be bff with everyone she's ever dated. some exes you can be friends with. not all though. pretty much everyone from my op except me, her mother, and that crazy lady are all her exes.

I agree with you. Some bridges are meant to be burnt!
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she just cares so much. i've tried to tell her it isn't selfish to put yourself first when putting someone else first harms both of you. sometimes people really are just assholes.
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I feel like one of my most self-sabotaging characteristics has been that I will miss out on potential new opportunities because I tend to cling to what I know. Around that same time when I was 29-30, I met an Aries sun, cancer moon and Pisces Venus. Our attraction was extremely strong, I liked him sooo much. But I was already involved with the Capricorn at that time, even though cap ex still wasn’t calling me his girlfriend yet. But I still stayed loyal to him and blocked out the Aries even though I felt such a strong pull toward him. I basically turned away a lot of good men with potential for someone who was not committing to me and I find that I still do this.. I put all my eggs in one basket before they have a chance to reciprocate and I’m learning that’s one of my biggest downfalls. Lol

My mom died in 2009 though, a few months before my 29th birthday so I think that was around the time of my Saturn return too.

thats something i think a lot of women go through, myself included. we want someone to love us as we love them. and try to make them. but we can't. love is freely given. took me until i was 36 years old to find the right one. and i kissed a lot of toads before that point. so i get it.

how are you dealing with the loss of your mom? mine died last april and it still feels very fresh. i hope it doesn't feel like this forever.

It will get better ❤️ It came in waves when she died. It did not initially seem real.. it sometimes felt like she was on vacation and would be back. Lol I think that’s the minds protective way of preventing our bodies/hearts from going into shock. Then when the finality of it hit me, I would break down sobbing out of nowhere. It ebbs and flows.. just flow with it, allow yourself to feel all the stages of grief. I promise it does get better with time, but allow yourself to process those emotions, that’s part of your healing process.
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i'm glad you're able to deal better with it a bit now. i hope to also get to that point in the not too distant future. but i'm a taurus and you know how we are. lol
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I feel like one of my most self-sabotaging characteristics has been that I will miss out on potential new opportunities because I tend to cling to what I know. Around that same time when I was 29-30, I met an Aries sun, cancer moon and Pisces Venus. Our attraction was extremely strong, I liked him sooo much. But I was already involved with the Capricorn at that time, even though cap ex still wasn’t calling me his girlfriend yet. But I still stayed loyal to him and blocked out the Aries even though I felt such a strong pull toward him. I basically turned away a lot of good men with potential for someone who was not committing to me and I find that I still do this.. I put all my eggs in one basket before they have a chance to reciprocate and I’m learning that’s one of my biggest downfalls. Lol

My mom died in 2009 though, a few months before my 29th birthday so I think that was around the time of my Saturn return too.

thats something i think a lot of women go through, myself included. we want someone to love us as we love them. and try to make them. but we can't. love is freely given. took me until i was 36 years old to find the right one. and i kissed a lot of toads before that point. so i get it.

how are you dealing with the loss of your mom? mine died last april and it still feels very fresh. i hope it doesn't feel like this forever.

It will get better ❤️ It came in waves when she died. It did not initially seem real.. it sometimes felt like she was on vacation and would be back. Lol I think that’s the minds protective way of preventing our bodies/hearts from going into shock. Then when the finality of it hit me, I would break down sobbing out of nowhere. It ebbs and flows.. just flow with it, allow yourself to feel all the stages of grief. I promise it does get better with time, but allow yourself to process those emotions, that’s part of your healing process.

i'm glad you're able to deal better with it a bit now. i hope to also get to that point in the not too distant future. but i'm a taurus and you know how we are. lol

Girl I have a crybaby cancer moon and scorp sun… all the feels 😂 you will be ok but be patient with yourself. ❤️ She is still around you energetically, looking after you. I hope you find some comfort in that. Don’t let yourself sink into a depression because she wouldn’t want that for you. That’s something I had to remind myself. My mom actually died on Fourth of July in 2009.. so her death anniversary is right around the corner. I never allow myself to sink into a depressive state, I still celebrate 4th of July because I know she would want me to. My mom was a fun-loving Gemini. The weekend she died, my sisters and I coped by spending the day at the beach. We received a lot of harsh judgment from our aunts as far as how we were coping with our grief. But our mom loved the water.

You can also consider doing a balloon release in memory of your mom. Write a letter to her, saying whatever you want to say, put it in a helium balloon and release it to the sky. That’s something else that my sisters and I have done which helped us cope. Our mom died suddenly so there was no opportunity for goodbyes
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mine died a few days before my birthday. my wife left april 1st. my birthday is the 28th. tried to make the best of it i could. but it really made me feel really... i don't even know how to explain it.
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As a Scorpio myself I made it about half way through and had to stop reading. It’s just tewwwww much. I can’t deal with this much drama, much less read about it. Is she very young? What is your sign?

Same. She's dumb.

This is why I never rely on people. You have to manage your life on your own<,
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no one is an island. part of relationships in general is being vulnerable and allowing yourself to lean on someone else. my mom only had a few relationships in her life. and they were mostly with men who she could dominate. she wasn't happy with her romantic life. spent most of her life single. passed the same shit onto my sister. who also has not had many relationships because my mom poisoned her to it as well. my mom demonized men but always told me "get a wife, get a life." at some point you have to just... let go. all the control freak shit is why so many people are in their 30s and 40s having never been married, despite wanting to be. will not ever have children, despite wanting them. they intentionally nuke their own lives from orbit because one time they had a bad relationship so now they have false hope + self sabotage shit where they cannot imagine depending on anyone else. one of my closest friends is 40. she did that. she has never been married. never got to have kids. because of genetic stuff she had a very short window to be able to have them at all. what does she do now? make not so cryptic facebook posts about the life she never had. you only have one life. if you cannot be vulnerable you (general you here) will never be happy. all relationships require it. if you are just a giant wall of "i can do it myself i don't want anyone to help me" you'll get just that. i remind people all the time to make sure the energy they're putting out is what they want. you'll get exactly what you think you want. and it's not usually what you actually want or need.
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Scorpios have an inner self-destruct button that they push from time to time. Usually, it is when they feel guilt.

Funny. I needed a new birth certificate and was able to easily get a new one mailed to me from the state I was born in. Why is this so hard for you?

https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/vital-records/index.php

Have you ordered one from the website it says on here?

yes. sent them a pic of my old id my sisters dog had chewed. they refused it. refunded. sent them the pic of the paper id they give you that is legal id. they refused it. refunded just on and on. i've contacted them about it multiple times. they don't respond. the thing sends me to vital check and no matter what i do they don't accept any id that i have.
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I’ve ordered mine once and it never came. Tried to contact someone to see what happened—what a joke!!! Waiting on my second order now and we’ll see if this one arrives or not!
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Scorpios have an inner self-destruct button that they push from time to time. Usually, it is when they feel guilt.

Funny. I needed a new birth certificate and was able to easily get a new one mailed to me from the state I was born in. Why is this so hard for you?

https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/vital-records/index.php

Have you ordered one from the website it says on here?

yes. sent them a pic of my old id my sisters dog had chewed. they refused it. refunded. sent them the pic of the paper id they give you that is legal id. they refused it. refunded just on and on. i've contacted them about it multiple times. they don't respond. the thing sends me to vital check and no matter what i do they don't accept any id that i have.

I’ve ordered mine once and it never came. Tried to contact someone to see what happened—what a joke!!! Waiting on my second order now and we’ll see if this one arrives or not!
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wonder if it has to do with the pandemic? either way, it's annoying as fuckin balls. ugh.

nice to see you, abby. 🙂
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Scorpios have an inner self-destruct button that they push from time to time. Usually, it is when they feel guilt.

Funny. I needed a new birth certificate and was able to easily get a new one mailed to me from the state I was born in. Why is this so hard for you?

https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/vital-records/index.php

Have you ordered one from the website it says on here?

yes. sent them a pic of my old id my sisters dog had chewed. they refused it. refunded. sent them the pic of the paper id they give you that is legal id. they refused it. refunded just on and on. i've contacted them about it multiple times. they don't respond. the thing sends me to vital check and no matter what i do they don't accept any id that i have.

I’ve ordered mine once and it never came. Tried to contact someone to see what happened—what a joke!!! Waiting on my second order now and we’ll see if this one arrives or not!

wonder if it has to do with the pandemic? either way, it's annoying as fuckin balls. ugh.

nice to see you, abby. 🙂
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Girl the first one I ordered was pre-pandemic!!!! I didn’t even bother once that hit haha but I figured so much time has past that maybe, just maybe, they’d have their shit together! Wrong.

Good to see you too, scorchy. Scorpios will be the death of me too lol. I’ll die happy though HAH!
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Scorpios have an inner self-destruct button that they push from time to time. Usually, it is when they feel guilt.

Funny. I needed a new birth certificate and was able to easily get a new one mailed to me from the state I was born in. Why is this so hard for you?

https://www.azdhs.gov/licensing/vital-records/index.php

Have you ordered one from the website it says on here?

yes. sent them a pic of my old id my sisters dog had chewed. they refused it. refunded. sent them the pic of the paper id they give you that is legal id. they refused it. refunded just on and on. i've contacted them about it multiple times. they don't respond. the thing sends me to vital check and no matter what i do they don't accept any id that i have.

I’ve ordered mine once and it never came. Tried to contact someone to see what happened—what a joke!!! Waiting on my second order now and we’ll see if this one arrives or not!

wonder if it has to do with the pandemic? either way, it's annoying as fuckin balls. ugh.

nice to see you, abby. 🙂

Girl the first one I ordered was pre-pandemic!!!! I didn’t even bother once that hit haha but I figured so much time has past that maybe, just maybe, they’d have their shit together! Wrong.

Good to see you too, scorchy. Scorpios will be the death of me too lol. I’ll die happy though HAH!
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i love my wife and cannot imagine my life without her. if you can find a scorpio man who cares as much as you do and will do the things he needs to open up and commit do not ever let him go. you know how much shit i talked about not ever wanting to date a scorpio. the universe was just like "k, well here you go." and i couldn't be happier. the important thing especially for fixed signs like us is to be willing to go all in once you know it's the right one.

my wife has gone through a lot of shit recently. even when she had no one else but me, i've been there. 100% . will always be there. most of this year was awful in terms of shit that happened but it's just made us stronger. we had what i hope was our last bit of letting insecurity due to past trauma cause issues. i bared my soul to her the night before last. and she reciprocated.

i have shown her with my actions every single day. she's had no reason to doubt.

love is not just a feeling. it's a commitment you make to each other every single day. you will have hard days. sometimes hard years. but you are best friends and life companions not just lovers. so it's never a selfish thing where you have ego clashes about pointless shit.
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I’m sorry you are going through this, Scorchy. They are extremely destructive, it’s absolutely overwhelming.

I couldn’t finish it either. Got confusing after you talk about your wife. Skimmed through it and seems like just more of the same.

It sounds like your wife had an extremely destructive upbringing; violent and unstable.

Were you her only stability in life? If you were her only stability, moment in life where she felt happy and safe, she must have deeply and perhaps subconsciously felt that it WOULD all go away (be taken from her) when she was forced to go back to Canada.

She allowed the bad to happen to her because some part of her believed it was over for her anyway. She was sad and devastated and it seems like when she became that sad and devastated, she couldn’t see the light… couldn’t see a solution. So a part of her said”fuck it, let it all go to hell”. She is welcoming death.

Some of us are extremists and when things go bad, we make it go WORSE so that it’s a bonafide death. Feeling extremely bad is the fuel we need to soar out of the ashes. But depending on what we are talking about and what kind of environment we are used to, for some, this play with death just seals the deal faster than with others.

This is horrible to watch on the other end. I’ve witnessed this first hand with my uncle/godfather that I LOVED/ADORED as a father. He had diabetes and although he had amazing qualities, extremely intelligent, charming, warm, giving… just the best, he handled his diabetes with bouts of danger-playing with death. And he was the same as your aunts/family members. He would look at us like “what’s the big deal, it is what it is”. It was anxiety driving to all those that loved him.

I saw that in me as well, after he past away. I was very comfortable with the idea of death… it was like a numbness to life. Being alerted by other made me cry, because I just knew I didn’t care. And I also like to destroy. I think, if it’s meant to be destroyed, then let’s do it right. If it comes back to life… it was meant to be in my life. But I’m starting anew. If you want to be with me, you will need to see a part of me die and get out of my way.

Why did you give her the money, knowing she wouldn’t handle it well?


i am the only stable thing she's really ever had in her life. her mother and her stepfather are not good loving people. they hurt her a lot when she was younger. she was the child from the first marriage and her mother resented her for it, as did the stepfather. they treated her brother (the stepdads son) much better. she has had issues with accepting that people actually do care. and that not everyone lies to try to get something from you. i assume because of her upbringing she was unable to attract healthy stable people to her.

she's the best god damn person i know though. and just because she previously only attracted assholes doesn't mean that i am or would treat her the same way. there have only been 2 things that i said could be deal breakers. trying to make me abuse her emotionally or otherwise (and i knew what she was doing and said if it didn't stop that i would have to end the relationship as i love and respect her too much to ever do that to her, and she has mostly stopped this) and then recently i said if she were to not be more concerned about her safety. we talked about what you mentioned and she said something similar. and i asked her "have you ever seen me lie about my feelings to anyone, ever?" even when my friend would try to bait me into saying nice things i'd just speak truth. she knows. she just had trouble accepting it in the past. for some reason she felt like it was just normal for someone to lie about how they feel or otherwise be a complete cockhat, but that is not the case. and i tell her, and show her, every day how much i love and value her.

as far as money goes. money comes and goes. it's not important. if she dies though? nothing could ever replace her. i'd give every bit of money i'd ever acquire if it would mean with 100% certainty she'd always be okay. it's just money. money only has value if it helps allow us to be together, and happy. i know it's not a very taurus way of thinking. but that's where i'm at.
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I’m sorry you are going through this, Scorchy. They are extremely destructive, it’s absolutely overwhelming.

I couldn’t finish it either. Got confusing after you talk about your wife. Skimmed through it and seems like just more of the same.

It sounds like your wife had an extremely destructive upbringing; violent and unstable.

Were you her only stability in life? If you were her only stability, moment in life where she felt happy and safe, she must have deeply and perhaps subconsciously felt that it WOULD all go away (be taken from her) when she was forced to go back to Canada.

She allowed the bad to happen to her because some part of her believed it was over for her anyway. She was sad and devastated and it seems like when she became that sad and devastated, she couldn’t see the light… couldn’t see a solution. So a part of her said”fuck it, let it all go to hell”. She is welcoming death.

Some of us are extremists and when things go bad, we make it go WORSE so that it’s a bonafide death. Feeling extremely bad is the fuel we need to soar out of the ashes. But depending on what we are talking about and what kind of environment we are used to, for some, this play with death just seals the deal faster than with others.

This is horrible to watch on the other end. I’ve witnessed this first hand with my uncle/godfather that I LOVED/ADORED as a father. He had diabetes and although he had amazing qualities, extremely intelligent, charming, warm, giving… just the best, he handled his diabetes with bouts of danger-playing with death. And he was the same as your aunts/family members. He would look at us like “what’s the big deal, it is what it is”. It was anxiety driving to all those that loved him.

I saw that in me as well, after he past away. I was very comfortable with the idea of death… it was like a numbness to life. Being alerted by other made me cry, because I just knew I didn’t care. And I also like to destroy. I think, if it’s meant to be destroyed, then let’s do it right. If it comes back to life… it was meant to be in my life. But I’m starting anew. If you want to be with me, you will need to see a part of me die and get out of my way.

Why did you give her the money, knowing she wouldn’t handle it well?

i am the only stable thing she's really ever had in her life. her mother and her stepfather are not good loving people. they hurt her a lot when she was younger. she was the child from the first marriage and her mother resented her for it, as did the stepfather. they treated her brother (the stepdads son) much better. she has had issues with accepting that people actually do care. and that not everyone lies to try to get something from you. i assume because of her upbringing she was unable to attract healthy stable people to her.

she's the best god damn person i know though. and just because she previously only attracted assholes doesn't mean that i am or would treat her the same way. there have only been 2 things that i said could be deal breakers. trying to make me abuse her emotionally or otherwise (and i knew what she was doing and said if it didn't stop that i would have to end the relationship as i love and respect her too much to ever do that to her, and she has mostly stopped this) and then recently i said if she were to not be more concerned about her safety. we talked about what you mentioned and she said something similar. and i asked her "have you ever seen me lie about my feelings to anyone, ever?" even when my friend would try to bait me into saying nice things i'd just speak truth. she knows. she just had trouble accepting it in the past. for some reason she felt like it was just normal for someone to lie about how they feel or otherwise be a complete cockhat, but that is not the case. and i tell her, and show her, every day how much i love and value her.

as far as money goes. money comes and goes. it's not important. if she dies though? nothing could ever replace her. i'd give every bit of money i'd ever acquire if it would mean with 100% certainty she'd always be okay. it's just money. money only has value if it helps allow us to be together, and happy. i know it's not a very taurus way of thinking. but that's where i'm at.

Lol… The amount of money or money loss was not my point. My point was, why give it to her IF you knew and felt deeply that she would do harm with it? You said you had a feeling she would give it to her ex. So, why invite the scenario when you had intuition and more awareness than them?

Her destruction isn’t about you or how you treat her. Her destruction is about her pathology…. A pattern she was brought up with. It’s harder to overcome
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I answered. My ultimate hope was she would do as I’d asked but even if she didn’t she was still able to be safe for a while. Happy for a while. After all the shit that’s happened and her brushes with death she’s told me she sees things more clearly. With the crazy roommate when I told her what the best course of action was she didn’t give me any grief. She understood why it was important to put her safety first and not do what she’s historically done. And I had spent a ton of money keeping her away from her moms cuz she didn’t understand what I was saying before. I still have the fear, not that SHE would do things but that her crazy ass mom would. Ultimately it’s because I hoped that by showing her what I was willing to do she’d accept it. In that I mean that I showed her that I do care and would do anything to keep her safe. And I did. And then we had that convo we reached a level of trust and intimacy we hadn’t before. We have both learned so much from each other. The big thing we both learned though is that relationships are often sacrifice. For me it was easier. Was just money. She had to give up trying to destroy herself because she didn’t feel worthy of love. Scorpios often seem to have a death wish. She saw things as they were happening when she was living with that woman and how she reacted was totally different. She set boundaries. Didn’t over extend herself. Accepted that it wasn’t safe. And removed herself from the situation and she also recognized it was dangerous. That’s all I could’ve hoped for. For her to prioritize her safety over making others not upset with her.
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What is the Taurus way of thinking? 🤔🤔

Most Taurus I know shower me with expensive gifts, nice restaurants and money has been easily given (by my mother - even if I don’t ask for any).


Taurus in general value money and things. For me they’re a means to an end not happiness itself. If you had been a Taurus and had Taurusy talks with other taureans you’d understand. Lol
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I’m sorry you are going through this, Scorchy. They are extremely destructive, it’s absolutely overwhelming.

I couldn’t finish it either. Got confusing after you talk about your wife. Skimmed through it and seems like just more of the same.

It sounds like your wife had an extremely destructive upbringing; violent and unstable.

Were you her only stability in life? If you were her only stability, moment in life where she felt happy and safe, she must have deeply and perhaps subconsciously felt that it WOULD all go away (be taken from her) when she was forced to go back to Canada.

She allowed the bad to happen to her because some part of her believed it was over for her anyway. She was sad and devastated and it seems like when she became that sad and devastated, she couldn’t see the light… couldn’t see a solution. So a part of her said”fuck it, let it all go to hell”. She is welcoming death.

Some of us are extremists and when things go bad, we make it go WORSE so that it’s a bonafide death. Feeling extremely bad is the fuel we need to soar out of the ashes. But depending on what we are talking about and what kind of environment we are used to, for some, this play with death just seals the deal faster than with others.

This is horrible to watch on the other end. I’ve witnessed this first hand with my uncle/godfather that I LOVED/ADORED as a father. He had diabetes and although he had amazing qualities, extremely intelligent, charming, warm, giving… just the best, he handled his diabetes with bouts of danger-playing with death. And he was the same as your aunts/family members. He would look at us like “what’s the big deal, it is what it is”. It was anxiety driving to all those that loved him.

I saw that in me as well, after he past away. I was very comfortable with the idea of death… it was like a numbness to life. Being alerted by other made me cry, because I just knew I didn’t care. And I also like to destroy. I think, if it’s meant to be destroyed, then let’s do it right. If it comes back to life… it was meant to be in my life. But I’m starting anew. If you want to be with me, you will need to see a part of me die and get out of my way.

Why did you give her the money, knowing she wouldn’t handle it well?

i am the only stable thing she's really ever had in her life. her mother and her stepfather are not good loving people. they hurt her a lot when she was younger. she was the child from the first marriage and her mother resented her for it, as did the stepfather. they treated her brother (the stepdads son) much better. she has had issues with accepting that people actually do care. and that not everyone lies to try to get something from you. i assume because of her upbringing she was unable to attract healthy stable people to her.

she's the best god damn person i know though. and just because she previously only attracted assholes doesn't mean that i am or would treat her the same way. there have only been 2 things that i said could be deal breakers. trying to make me abuse her emotionally or otherwise (and i knew what she was doing and said if it didn't stop that i would have to end the relationship as i love and respect her too much to ever do that to her, and she has mostly stopped this) and then recently i said if she were to not be more concerned about her safety. we talked about what you mentioned and she said something similar. and i asked her "have you ever seen me lie about my feelings to anyone, ever?" even when my friend would try to bait me into saying nice things i'd just speak truth. she knows. she just had trouble accepting it in the past. for some reason she felt like it was just normal for someone to lie about how they feel or otherwise be a complete cockhat, but that is not the case. and i tell her, and show her, every day how much i love and value her.

as far as money goes. money comes and goes. it's not important. if she dies though? nothing could ever replace her. i'd give every bit of money i'd ever acquire if it would mean with 100% certainty she'd always be okay. it's just money. money only has value if it helps allow us to be together, and happy. i know it's not a very taurus way of thinking. but that's where i'm at.

Lol… The amount of money or money loss was not my point. My point was, why give it to her IF you knew and felt deeply that she would do harm with it? You said you had a feeling she would give it to her ex. So, why invite the scenario when you had intuition and more awareness than them?

Her destruction isn’t about you or how you treat her. Her destruction is about her pathology…. A pattern she was brought up with. It’s harder to overcome

I answered. My ultimate hope was she would do as I’d asked but even if she didn’t she was still able to be safe for a while. Happy for a while. After all the shit that’s happened and her brushes with death she’s told me she sees things more clearly. With the crazy roommate when I told her what the best course of action was she didn’t give me any grief. She understood why it was important to put her safety first and not do what she’s historically done. And I had spent a ton of money keeping her away from her moms cuz she didn’t understand what I was saying before. I still have the fear, not that SHE would do things but that her crazy ass mom would. Ultimately it’s because I hoped that by showing her what I was willing to do she’d accept it. In that I mean that I showed her that I do care and would do anything to keep her safe. And I did. And then we had that convo we reached a level of trust and intimacy we hadn’t before. We have both learned so much from each other. The big thing we both learned though is that relationships are often sacrifice. For me it was easier. Was just money. She had to give up trying to destroy herself because she didn’t feel worthy of love. Scorpios often seem to have a death wish. She saw things as they were happening when she was living with that woman and how she reacted was totally different. She set boundaries. Didn’t over extend herself. Accepted that it wasn’t safe. And removed herself from the situation and she also recognized it was dangerous. That’s all I could’ve hoped for. For her to prioritize her safety over making others not upset with her.

I’m just saying, don’t ignore your intuition.

I understand the situation was tough. But maybe the money would have been better spent if you got her a hotel room or Airbnb online and just texted her the address so she could be in a safe place?
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i've been in a fight or flight bipolar depression/irrational anxiety fog. my mental health hasn't been good. not for a long time. i had doubted it, yeah. before all the shit started happening. paranoia is bad. had a paranoia thing earlier as well. and sometimes it's hard to distinguish. you're right though. i should have just trusted it and got her a hotel or something.
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I find there’s like two extremities to Scorpios, the ones who can be kept to themselves/softies, then the others who are self-destructive/immature/vengeful. Don’t think I’ve come across any in-between. I feel they change their ways VERY slowly if ever (fixed nature). So good luck.


she's november 16 and depending on if you believe in cusps or not... i am solidly a 1st decan non-cusp taurus. so idk if i believe it or not, but some people feel very attached to it. she has historically dated a LOT of sags. most of her most significant exes are sag. except the one who tried to kill her. he's the most evil god damn taurus man ever.

also the roommate/ex asked her to move back in with him (she just woke up a few minutes ago) and she essentially told him to get fucked. so that has me hopeful.
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I find there’s like two extremities to Scorpios, the ones who can be kept to themselves/softies, then the others who are self-destructive/immature/vengeful. Don’t think I’ve come across any in-between. I feel they change their ways VERY slowly if ever (fixed nature). So good luck.

she's november 16 and depending on if you believe in cusps or not... i am solidly a 1st decan non-cusp taurus. so idk if i believe it or not, but some people feel very attached to it. she has historically dated a LOT of sags. most of her most significant exes are sag. except the one who tried to kill her. he's the most evil god damn taurus man ever.

also the roommate/ex asked her to move back in with him (she just woke up a few minutes ago) and she essentially told him to get fucked. so that has me hopeful.
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I don’t believe in cusps. I have two close female Taurus friends and I swear they would give everything to keep their loved ones content. Their time, their money.. even if I don’t think the receiving person deserves it at all. I can see them get easily taken advantage of, time after time. Don’t end up being the person who ends up just giving without receiving at least a reasonable fraction. As their close friend, I’ve noticed time and time I have to constantly remind them of how much better they deserve. It’s so hard to get through to them if they don’t believe it themselves. Also remember you can’t save/fix someone if they don’t want to save/fix themselves.. And remind yourself that the burden of helping your loved ones does not always have to hugely lie on you. Idk why some Taurus women take that burden upon themselves. I get you care greatly, but if it’s not getting you to desiring results of at least having some consistent peace in your life, you’re doing it wrong.