Gonna ask my male scorp to marry me...........

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ariesfire
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Thanks for the input. He already asked me to move in with him, and I am. This weekend in fact. But the marriage thing is now on my mind because I am getting too old (wrong end of 30) for another half ass relationship.

He had to really talk me into moving in, I been burned soooo much. But he is a great guy and I know I am really lucky to have him.

Guess I want to take back the "hell no, I ain't marrying you or no one" statements I have made.

He as a husband would be great! But how to present that idea now??

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I would give the living together thing at least a year and make sure no one's belongings ended up on the lawn. You don't really know someone until you've lived with them. But during that time, if it's going smoothly, you can bring up the subject of marriage and let him know you've started to feel differently about it. You know, get settled with each other and all for a bit and then bring it up.
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"The Scorpio men here don't often open up and share"

pfft. whatever.

Scorpio men are tired of the same dumb-ass topics replayed ad-infinitum. Want an answer? Dig through my damn post collection; it's somewhere in there. Tons of posts in there, but how bad do you want to know?

I'm trying to overcome my ram bias to answer this question, but with the plenty of annoying rams who hang out here, I'm not there yet. When/if I am, I'll try to answer it.






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ScorpseeksPisces
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I think you're moving too fast to go from agreeing to move in to marriage. He might feel pressured if you bring the subject up. However, you know him and we don't. The only bearing his Sun sign really has on this is that he may not be forthcoming in how he really feels if you do present the idea. I don't care much for tradition, but this is one instance where I think you stick with it.
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Sea Siren
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"So your record is 0-1-0."

I wish! I didn't go looking for them...they came after me. I've been in five actual fights. I lost one. And I'm not counting the time this bitch punched me cause her boyfriend passed me a note and I slammed her face into the locker. The teachers broke that one up immediately. And we both got suspended.

I'm not a violent person, but I will, and can defend myself. 🙂
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scorpion_rising
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"I wish! I didn't go looking for them...they came after me. I've been in five actual fights. I lost one. And I'm not counting the time this bitch punched me cause her boyfriend passed me a note and I slammed her face into the locker. The teachers broke that one up immediately. And we both got suspended.

I'm not a violent person, but I will, and can defend myself."

wow. I'm actually turned on.

To the rest of DXP: I have her pic and can visualize this in my mind, and you can't.

:: sticks tongue out to the rest of DXP ::
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ariesfire
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Well then, the proposal is DEFINETLY off for now. Bastard called me another woman's name in bed last nite...........three times! Not during sex, but shortly after as he was falling asleep.

So isn't this ducky? I am supposed to move in with him this weekend. *sigh*
The wheels are already in motion to do this and can't be stopped without hell to pay!

We DO have a "somewhat" open relationship. But that is based on total trust and communication. This girl's name he called me was someone he told me "he would not touch with a ten foot pole", so wtf would he lie to me about his attraction to her?

So now I have no choice but to wonder if in all this time he lies to me constantly— But now just got caught??

My pisces moon just wants to make excuses for him and pretend it didn't happen. My aries sun wants to torture him a bit. My cancer rising wants to be "understanding".

What a mess.

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P-Angel
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lol


First of all ... "We DO have a "somewhat" open relationship."

You have an open relationship with a guy ... and considering marriage?

Hello !!!!!!!!

Second ... for a person to speak someones name in their sleep is no indication that attraction is present .. I speak about my dog in my sleep but that doesn't mean I want to fuck him. Paranoid and suspicious like this all the time, or just now? And then have the audicity to say ....

Third .... "is based on total trust and communication"


Seriously, you need a reality check .. and not meaning to offend you, but, it's the truth.

Your desiring a marriage with a man to whom you have an open relationship with ..

You are freaked out over a suspicion that obviously stems from a paranoia of mistrust, if you would hold a person liable for what is said in their sleep .. I take showers with dinosaurs in the middle of Times Square in my sleep .. should my husband get his panties wadded up over that? Please .. how ludicrious of you.

You actually believe that you are in a trusting relationship with a man build around communication .... and then project the exact opposite by inferring that he has some hidden agenda with a woman?
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"So isn't this ducky? I am supposed to move in with him this weekend. *sigh*
The wheels are already in motion to do this and can't be stopped without hell to pay!"

If you move in with this guy you are insane!! You still have too many trust issues to be moving in let alone marrying him.

What exactly is a "somewhat" open relationship—

You either have an open relationship or you don't. Which one is it? If you do then getting upset about him calling you another girls name is just hypocritical. Is this open relationship one sided?? Like all on his side??
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ariesfire
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Ok

I said that he was falling asleep, not asleep. You know, have sex, cuddle, and he calls me the other name. I said "what did you say?" called me it again, then again with his eyes wide open. That is when I went to the couch for the nite.

Didn't come here to get bashed, came here for advice. Guess you had some pent up anger yourself to come crashing down on me.

Not freaking out at all. Just wondering why he would hide his attraction to her from me when it is totally unneccassary given our relationship.

Marriage, in my mind, means unconditional love and trust. I said the marriage is off for NOW because I want to understand why he would hide his attraction for this girl. For one, we were in a social situation earlier in the evening where the girl was there and they really seemed to have a connection.

So we obviously have some things to work on still before we get married.

Your ideas of marriage are different then mine, and I can respect that. Whatever floats your boat. I want to be happy and I want my man to be happy and for us to be best friends and partners. Sex is sex, friends are friends, emotional ties are varied and reach out to many. Why limit oneself?
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"I said that he was falling asleep, not asleep. You know, have sex, cuddle, and he calls me the other name. I said "what did you say?" called me it again, then again with his eyes wide open. That is when I went to the couch for the nite."

If this is the first time anything like this has happened then I think he called you another girls name to subconciously sabatoge the relationship. I think he is having some cold feet that you are moving in this weekend. He is probably completely freaking out. I think you are freaking out too which is why you are now all of a sudden wanting more of committment with him when all along you have been against marriage. You even said yourself that he had to talk you into even moving in. Why— What are your reservations about being with him. It sounds like you don't trust him at all and if I didn't trust someone the last thing I would be doing is moving in with him. If you think it is going to make you trust him more believe me it won't. It will only make things worse.

We are not bashing you. We are giving you some tough love to try and open your eyes to what you cannot see because you are too involved in the feelings of the relationship. We all need that sometimes to shake us up and really see whats happening.
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"he calls me the other name. I said "what did you say?" called me it again"

You can make justification for this, as it meaning something other than it is for your own satisfation to soothe your paranoid jealously if you choose to .. it's your life. But, before this was put to you in opposition, your description of events was as below ..


"shortly after as he was falling asleep."

He was falling asleep, whether his eyes were open or not. fyi: my Scorpio son sleeps the whole night with his eyes wide open 50% of the time .. and trust me, he's sound asleep.

I've made brownies, while completely asleep before.

If the man was falling asleep, and spoke ... then you cannot hold him accountible to justify your paranioa that is built around jealousy and mistrust, and expect people to be sympathetic to you as if you are some kind of victim of circumstances.

And I'm not trying to bash you or come down on you .. I'm just astounded that you could be so blind to the reality of this situation, and am attempting to wake your ass the fuck up.

"Not freaking out at all. Just wondering why he would hide his attraction to her from me when it is totally unneccassary given our relationship."

He's not hiding anything from you, he told you he wasn't attracted to her. You say you want a marriage that makes him happy and you happy, and yet, you instill a sense of mistrust in the union by getting your panties wadded up over a fucking dream, and go carry your butt to the couch, as if this is supposed to make him "think" that he has done something to offend you intentionally.

Can you not see that by your actions based around mistrust, and miscommunication that stems from jealous paranoia .. that you are actually creating a stage of unhappiness within a union?

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gslove
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"He's not hiding anything from you, he told you he wasn't attracted to her"


I don't agree with you on this one P-Angel. I think he might be attracted to her but that doesn't mean he is going to do anything with her. If a guy is showing a lot of interest in someone whether it be negatively or positively he is interested in her. Otherwise he just wouldn't talk about her at all. I don't think men take that much time to even think about someone if their is no interest. Anyone who protests so much to say that he wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole and has actually put that much thought to it is thinking about something.
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Lord, do I ever 😉 ..... and it pushes me over the edge every time.

I've lived an entire life-time wrestling with reality, trust me on that .... and I'm here to tell you, it's not definitive to a Piscean, and a Pisces mooner .. and is likely the culprit 100% of the time why life is abstruse = without a wake-up call to the fact that Pisceans and mooners are actually living in a reality bubble, we are lost, completely, no matter how put together we may convince ourselves of being.
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"Anyone who protests so much to say that he wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole and has actually put that much thought to it is thinking about something."


I hear what you're saying, and I would agree if the circumstances didn't involve an Aries. A Ram WILL put this opposition in place with their partners .. they perpetuate a competitive behaviour within their partners.

Any ex partner of an Aries will varify this .. and I've seen it with my own son and his ex-Ram. She said, repeatedly, to every woman who crossed his path, something like ... 'you want her', 'you're thinking about being with her, aren't you'.

A persons behaviour isn't one-sided .. what you say to another person, or how you present yourself will create an environment for response.

If we look at this situation, in the aspect of her carrying her butt to the couch to sleep, then it isn't far off-base to assume that she is indeed paranoid and suspicious of him, for a person who is trusting, and willing to communicate wouldn't react dramatically. However, she did, over something that has no solid evidence to support the speculation. So, it's not out in left-field, considering her behaviour, that she has instilled within him, just like other people who have been with Rams have testified ... the Ram, itself, has created this environment where the partner has to atone, and seek redemption for every passing thought or feeling, as it's relative to a person other than the Ram.
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"Any ex partner of an Aries will varify this .. and I've seen it with my own son and his ex-Ram. She said, repeatedly, to every woman who crossed his path, something like ... 'you want her', 'you're thinking about being with her, aren't you'."

Well you are right about that. I have an Aries friend who does that all the time with men. Even if she has only went on one date she is constantly asking why he is looking at this girl or that girl. It's like she constantly needs reassurance, but then they will her that they are not looking at the woman and she will call them a liar, but if the guy admits to it then she will never let him hear the end of it.

But if a guy comes home from work and with no provoking starts talking about how he can't believe the sexy outfits that this woman has been wearing to work and how no one respects her and that she doesn't even have a great body and that she is so insecure and he is constantly preocuppied by what this woman is doing then watch out because he will probably be sleeping with her soon.
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But, think about this the other way around ...

If a man is talking about his fondness or admiration of another woman, then, yes, he is likely on his way to acting out his desire.

But, really, who starts off a conversation defending themselves ... IF .... IF .... IF .... the relationship is built around """Trust""", and """Communication""", as has been said?

See how that doesn't make an iota of sense?

If my man trusted me, completely, and I knew this ... then why would I feel compelled to defend myself, as it pertains to another man, without being prompted to do so?

Like Judge Judy says .... don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. It will be a cold day in hell before I believe bullshit.

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P-Angel
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"Marriage, in my mind, means unconditional love and trust."

"we were in a social situation earlier in the evening where the girl was there and they really seemed to have a connection."



Think about the above quotes, for real, ariesfire ... couple them together and think about how these two are in contridiction of a belief, as it's relative to behaviour. And I'm not talking about him, rather ... you.

If you believe unconditional love and trust ... then this isn't one-sided for him to provide to you this "unconditional" .. you HAVE to project this same kind of energy onto him, as well, for it to be true.

Just because he socializes with a woman does NOT equal attraction .. if you loved him and trusted him unconditionally, then this thought wouldn't be in your head without any evidence to support it.

It's all speculative ... and you would use it as a reason to project onto him a behaviour of conditional love, while claiming you want unconditional.

Cannot you not see the hypocrisy?
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