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We’ve been together for 3years.In those 3 years I have lied or kept things from her because i didn’t want to hurt her. She has time and time again told me that she’ll rather I come out and tell her, than for her to find out, especially if she’s asked me. She truly loves me and gave everything to the relationship, i also love her but i thought i was protecting her by keeping her away from some things i wasn’t ready to share with her.

Well this past weekend broke the Carmel’s back. I told her an information she asked me about last year and i denied it. She told me she was done. She blocked me on all SM and told me to move out, which i have done, but has left the phone on. I have begged, cried and all she wants is her space. I did give her her space until Monday and we have been communicating. She’s very cold and numb. I have decided to keep the conversation going daily but as minimum as it can be while respecting her space. Surprisingly she Responds to my text or return my calls. We had a lengthy chat this evening and she expressed that she doesn’t trust me anymore and i took her for granted. Which i agree, i did. She said she’s cold and doesn’t feel anything anymore and knows we can’t go back being in a relationship but we might be cordial after she heals.

My question is, Why is she still communicating with me, especially knowing that she can easily cut me off, and since she is communicating back, how can i use this opportunity to win her trust back?
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Posted by ImperfectStorm

She still responds because scorps love unconditionally. Your deceptive behavior isn’t going to get her out of character and turn her into something she’s not. She will stay true to herself but even while she might still love you, she’s probably over the relationship. We already struggle with trust, it doesn’t come naturally to us. There’s nothing we want and need more in a relationship than to feel emotionally safe with someone. If the trust is gone, I would not hold your breath. Depending on how many lies you’ve told, she may or may not be willing to try to reconcile. It really depends on the extent of the damage done.

The best way to build trust with a scorp is to never betray it in the first place.


So do i stop communicating with her and remove myself? I really messed up and mentally it’s disturbed me how bd I’ve hurt her. I really want her in my life even as friends if relationship won’t work out. She’s an amazing person

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Posted by MysteriousScorpio

If I were her I don’t know if I could ever go back to the way things were. It’s been tainted. Sure, I could probably forgive in time, but I could never forget. Things like that get burned into my mind. At best you two might be able to salvage a friendship.....possibly more in time, but things could never ever be like they were. For me, if I give someone my all.....nothing but unconditional love and I find out they’ve been lying to me it’s like they are laughing in my face. Like they just spit on my love and disrespected it as if it meant nothing to them. As if they didn’t take our relationship seriously. That’s a deep hurt that’s difficult to recover from. At least for me.


I completely agree. I thought I was protecting her by keeping things away from her or not telling the complete truth. She always wanted to dig deep to help me with the situation so I'll tell her bits and pieces or when she comes with something i didn't expect her to find out I'll deny it and then come back months later to reveal what she had initially asked me. I told her that was my problem to resolve but she wanted to help. She has a big heart and she's an amazing person. I guess this is the consequences I'll have to pay knowing things will never be he same. At this point I'll settle for friendship. We were best friends in the relationship. I still consider her that but she told me I'm not her best friend anymore because the trust is dead.
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Move on

Lulz

Wow really. I really messed this on up

I was being perverse but maybe you will need to at least stand back?
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I feel like If i don't communicate with her she'll think i really don't give a damn. Every time I reach out she responds and I tell her how much i remorseful and how i want to get better and amend things.

She hated not hearing from me for hours let alone a whole day so I honestly don't know if backing a way will help my situation at his point especially when she responding.
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Move on

Lulz

Wow really. I really messed this on up

I was being perverse but maybe you will need to at least stand back?

I feel like If i don't communicate with her she'll think i really don't give a damn. Every time I reach out she responds and I tell her how much i remorseful and how i want to get better and amend things.

She hated not hearing from me for hours let alone a whole day so I honestly don't know if backing a way will help my situation at his point especially when she responding.
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Well being a Scorpio woman myself and after being lied to, it could be very difficult to gain her trust. Scorpios are suspicious by nature...so

What did you lie about and why?
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What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.
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Posted by bri

What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.


So you were with her for 3yrs before admitting you had a son?

Why? Aren’t you proud of him?
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What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.


So you were with her for 3yrs before admitting you had a son?

Why? Aren’t you proud of him?
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Posted by ImperfectStorm

To be honest, you’re probably not going to get her back. She probably feels like “I don’t even know who the fuck this dude is” 🥴 if you can hide your own child from her for 3 years she will only wonder what else you’re hiding. More than anything I feel sad for your son! Men will stop at nothing to get some new pussy SMDH 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️


It’s very sad especially as the gf’s daughter was in his life!

That makes it even worse!

😞
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Posted by bri

We’ve been together for 3years.In those 3 years I have lied or kept things from her because i didn’t want to hurt her. She has time and time again told me that she’ll rather I come out and tell her, than for her to find out, especially if she’s asked me. She truly loves me and gave everything to the relationship, i also love her but i thought i was protecting her by keeping her away from some things i wasn’t ready to share with her.


First off... you need to stop lying.

To her.

And most importantly, to yourself.

You didn't withhold your sons existence from her to 'protect her' like you keep claiming.

She had expressed over the years how hurtful you withholding secrets was. So no, it wasn't to protect her. It was to protect yourself.

You put your wellbeing over hers. Time and time again. For 3 years.

If you really want to build trust you need to start by being honest with yourself. Only then can you hope to be transparent with the people you encounter.

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What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.


You have a whole 4 year old human that you didn't tell her about? AND Scorpio has a child already?

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Virgos and their sneaky ways never seem to surprise me lol

So how were you able to visit your child? How often were you back and forth between your ex and the Scorpios house?

You didn't get caught trying to visit your kid? That had to be a current event that happened often.

Did you just want free reign in having access to both ladies without your Scorpio finding out and giving you rules for the visits?

Were you still having sex with your ex? LMAO

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What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.

You have a whole 4 year old human that you didn't tell her about? AND Scorpio has a child already?

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Virgos and their sneaky ways never seem to surprise me lol

So how were you able to visit your child? How often were you back and forth between your ex and the Scorpios house?

You didn't get caught trying to visit your kid? That had to be a current event that happened often.

Did you just want free reign in having access to both ladies without your Scorpio finding out and giving you rules for the visits?

Were you still having sex with your ex? LMAO

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I honestly think this is why she is still answering him. She wants to know all the details.

But her mind is SET.

Those questions... her mind must be going back THROUGH EVERY MOMENT where he lied or DENIED.

It’s just shocking.
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I'm not shocked at all- He probably didn't realize his relationship with the Scorpio was gonna last.

This is why Virgo men are best by themselves, IMO. They sabotage the hell out of a relationships.

He was with her 3 years and didn't think she should know about his child.

You can't make this shit up.

I hope she gets every thing she needs to heal and leaves.

There is probably way more then just a hidden child. Most likely a completely different story if she talks with the kids mom.

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Posted by bri

What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.

You have a whole 4 year old human that you didn't tell her about? AND Scorpio has a child already?

Image Not Found

Virgos and their sneaky ways never seem to surprise me lol

So how were you able to visit your child? How often were you back and forth between your ex and the Scorpios house?

You didn't get caught trying to visit your kid? That had to be a current event that happened often.

Did you just want free reign in having access to both ladies without your Scorpio finding out and giving you rules for the visits?

Were you still having sex with your ex? LMAO

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I honestly think this is why she is still answering him. She wants to know all the details.

But her mind is SET.

Those questions... her mind must be going back THROUGH EVERY MOMENT where he lied or DENIED.

It’s just shocking.

I'm not shocked at all- He probably didn't realize his relationship with the Scorpio was gonna last.

This is why Virgo men are best by themselves, IMO. They sabotage the hell out of a relationships.He was with her 3 years and didn't think she should know about his child.

You can't make this shit up.

I hope she gets every thing she needs to heal and leaves.

There is probably way more then just a hidden child. Most likely a completely different story if she talks with the kids mom.

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Even then, he could’ve just said “I need more time before I can fully open up.” That would have even been better than “I told you everything” and then goes “I didn’t tell you about a big part of my life” 3 years later.
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He just hasn’t juggled his 2 women life style very well.

Hiding a kid isn’t usually considered “opening up”
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Posted by saggurl88
Posted by bri

What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.

You have a whole 4 year old human that you didn't tell her about? AND Scorpio has a child already?

Image Not Found

Virgos and their sneaky ways never seem to surprise me lol

So how were you able to visit your child? How often were you back and forth between your ex and the Scorpios house?

You didn't get caught trying to visit your kid? That had to be a current event that happened often.

Did you just want free reign in having access to both ladies without your Scorpio finding out and giving you rules for the visits?

Were you still having sex with your ex? LMAO

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I honestly think this is why she is still answering him. She wants to know all the details.

But her mind is SET.

Those questions... her mind must be going back THROUGH EVERY MOMENT where he lied or DENIED.

It’s just shocking.

I'm not shocked at all- He probably didn't realize his relationship with the Scorpio was gonna last.

This is why Virgo men are best by themselves, IMO. They sabotage the hell out of a relationships.He was with her 3 years and didn't think she should know about his child.

You can't make this shit up.

I hope she gets every thing she needs to heal and leaves.

There is probably way more then just a hidden child. Most likely a completely different story if she talks with the kids mom.

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Even then, he could’ve just said “I need more time before I can fully open up.” That would have even been better than “I told you everything” and then goes “I didn’t tell you about a big part of my life” 3 years later.

He just hasn’t juggled his 2 women life style very well.

Hiding a kid isn’t usually considered “opening up”
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The levels of deception are unreal.

She trusted him enough to move him into her home with her young daughter... the whole time he's hiding a full on child from her. Wild.
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Posted by saggurl88
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Posted by saggurl88
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Posted by saggurl88
Posted by bri

What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.

You have a whole 4 year old human that you didn't tell her about? AND Scorpio has a child already?

Image Not Found

Virgos and their sneaky ways never seem to surprise me lol

So how were you able to visit your child? How often were you back and forth between your ex and the Scorpios house?

You didn't get caught trying to visit your kid? That had to be a current event that happened often.

Did you just want free reign in having access to both ladies without your Scorpio finding out and giving you rules for the visits?

Were you still having sex with your ex? LMAO

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I honestly think this is why she is still answering him. She wants to know all the details.

But her mind is SET.

Those questions... her mind must be going back THROUGH EVERY MOMENT where he lied or DENIED.

It’s just shocking.

I'm not shocked at all- He probably didn't realize his relationship with the Scorpio was gonna last.

This is why Virgo men are best by themselves, IMO. They sabotage the hell out of a relationships.He was with her 3 years and didn't think she should know about his child.

You can't make this shit up.

I hope she gets every thing she needs to heal and leaves.

There is probably way more then just a hidden child. Most likely a completely different story if she talks with the kids mom.

Image Not Found

Even then, he could’ve just said “I need more time before I can fully open up.” That would have even been better than “I told you everything” and then goes “I didn’t tell you about a big part of my life” 3 years later.

He just hasn’t juggled his 2 women life style very well.

Hiding a kid isn’t usually considered “opening up”

The levels of deception are unreal.

She trusted him enough to move him into her home with her young daughter... the whole time he's hiding a full on child from her. Wild.
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How the hell can people do that??
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Posted by MareInfame
Posted by saggurl88
Posted by bri

What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.

You have a whole 4 year old human that you didn't tell her about? AND Scorpio has a child already?

Image Not Found

Virgos and their sneaky ways never seem to surprise me lol

So how were you able to visit your child? How often were you back and forth between your ex and the Scorpios house?

You didn't get caught trying to visit your kid? That had to be a current event that happened often.

Did you just want free reign in having access to both ladies without your Scorpio finding out and giving you rules for the visits?

Were you still having sex with your ex? LMAO

Image Not Found

I honestly think this is why she is still answering him. She wants to know all the details.

But her mind is SET.

Those questions... her mind must be going back THROUGH EVERY MOMENT where he lied or DENIED.

It’s just shocking.

I'm not shocked at all- He probably didn't realize his relationship with the Scorpio was gonna last.

This is why Virgo men are best by themselves, IMO. They sabotage the hell out of a relationships.He was with her 3 years and didn't think she should know about his child.

You can't make this shit up.

I hope she gets every thing she needs to heal and leaves.

There is probably way more then just a hidden child. Most likely a completely different story if she talks with the kids mom.

Image Not Found

Even then, he could’ve just said “I need more time before I can fully open up.” That would have even been better than “I told you everything” and then goes “I didn’t tell you about a big part of my life” 3 years later.

He just hasn’t juggled his 2 women life style very well.

Hiding a kid isn’t usually considered “opening up”

The levels of deception are unreal.

She trusted him enough to move him into her home with her young daughter... the whole time he's hiding a full on child from her. Wild.

How the hell can people do that??
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IDK

with lovers like these, who needs enemies amiright
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What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.

You have a whole 4 year old human that you didn't tell her about? AND Scorpio has a child already?

Image Not Found

Virgos and their sneaky ways never seem to surprise me lol

So how were you able to visit your child? How often were you back and forth between your ex and the Scorpios house?

You didn't get caught trying to visit your kid? That had to be a current event that happened often.

Did you just want free reign in having access to both ladies without your Scorpio finding out and giving you rules for the visits?

Were you still having sex with your ex? LMAO

Image Not Found

I honestly think this is why she is still answering him. She wants to know all the details.

But her mind is SET.

Those questions... her mind must be going back THROUGH EVERY MOMENT where he lied or DENIED.

It’s just shocking.

I'm not shocked at all- He probably didn't realize his relationship with the Scorpio was gonna last.

This is why Virgo men are best by themselves, IMO. They sabotage the hell out of a relationships.He was with her 3 years and didn't think she should know about his child.

You can't make this shit up.

I hope she gets every thing she needs to heal and leaves.

There is probably way more then just a hidden child. Most likely a completely different story if she talks with the kids mom.

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Even then, he could’ve just said “I need more time before I can fully open up.” That would have even been better than “I told you everything” and then goes “I didn’t tell you about a big part of my life” 3 years later.

He just hasn’t juggled his 2 women life style very well.

Hiding a kid isn’t usually considered “opening up”

The levels of deception are unreal.

She trusted him enough to move him into her home with her young daughter... the whole time he's hiding a full on child from her. Wild.

How the hell can people do that??

IDK

with lovers like these, who needs enemies amiright
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You're dead right!
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Man! Yall ate me up on this. I know what i did was very very wrong. I have read everyone's response and reaction and i deserve it!

It wasn't intentional to hide my child from her, I just wasn't ready to open up that part of my life for her to get involve with him.

I'll be going for therapy to work on me and I understand that i hurt someone that was very close to me. She truly gave her unconditional love and i took it for granted. I made that bed and i'll lay on it and face the consequences.

Thanks everyone.
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Posted by bri

What did you lie about and why?

Ok i'll spill it out

When we met, honestly we weren't looking for a relationship but our energy matched on our first day out and it was awesome. On our first night, some psychic saw how compatible we are and gave some revelations that she held so close to her. She opened up before I did, I don't open up so easily ( I'm a Virgo libra Cusp).

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son and she lost it.

I admit i didn't handle the situation very well.




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I can see why he lied. Doesn't make it right, but I get it.

Some women want to be very involved with their bf's children to the point they want to join in all activities, birthdays, holidays and events. Even try to befriend the mother and cement themselves in the man's life through the child. If the man wants to keep things separate, the new gf can become offended, jealous and accuse the man of not loving her enough or not taking their relationship seriously if he won't "open up" all aspects of his life to her.

Not a great way to start a relationship and the temptation to avoid any potential drama where children are concerned, can be strong. When a woman doesn't allow a new love interest into her children's life she's a protective mother. It's not allows viewed the same with men.

I've seen this more times than I haven't.

Not saying the Scorpio was like this but in the beginning of a relationship you never know how a person will react.

3 years is crazy long though, dude messed up.
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Posted by shellshocker

I can see why he lied. Doesn't make it right, but I get it.

Some women want to be very involved with their bf's children to the point they want to join in all activities, birthdays, holidays and events. Even try to befriend the mother and cement themselves in the man's life through the child. If the man wants to keep things separate, the new gf can become offended, jealous and accuse the man of not loving her enough or not taking their relationship seriously if he won't "open up" all aspects of his life to her.

Not a great way to start a relationship and the temptation to avoid any potential drama where children are concerned, can be strong. When a woman doesn't allow a new love interest into her children's life she's a protective mother. It's not allows viewed the same with men.

I've seen this more times than I haven't.

Not saying the Scorpio was like this but in the beginning of a relationship you never know how a person will react.

3 years is crazy long though, dude messed up.


Man you get my logic as to why i did it. He was too young to be brought around and i wanted him to be familiar with both parents before bringing any person he will be close too without any of the parents feeling like someone was coming to take their place as a mother.

I understand how I handled it was wrong and maybe 3 yrs was too long. He's my only child i have no experience being a parent so I did what I thought was best for him.
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Posted by shellshocker

I can see why he lied. Doesn't make it right, but I get it.

Some women want to be very involved with their bf's children to the point they want to join in all activities, birthdays, holidays and events. Even try to befriend the mother and cement themselves in the man's life through the child. If the man wants to keep things separate, the new gf can become offended, jealous and accuse the man of not loving her enough or not taking their relationship seriously if he won't "open up" all aspects of his life to her.

Not a great way to start a relationship and the temptation to avoid any potential drama where children are concerned, can be strong. When a woman doesn't allow a new love interest into her children's life she's a protective mother. It's not allows viewed the same with men.

I've seen this more times than I haven't.

Not saying the Scorpio was like this but in the beginning of a relationship you never know how a person will react.

3 years is crazy long though, dude messed up.

There's a difference with keeping a child away vs not telling a person at all. I agree with your logic when it comes to protecting the child and parents involved, but this was flat out omission of the truth altogether. That's not protecting.

This whole mess could've been avoided if he would've told her about the child and his reasoning for not wanting her to be involved. He was around her child, but his child was "protected"

This is just info for him to use as an excuse he can feed her later.

She should've followed her gut instinct with him and the lies.

Would you feel ok with dating a woman for 3 years and finding out she had a kid that lived with his father?

Anyone would feel duped, like the wool was being pulled over their eyes.
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Posted by shellshocker

I can see why he lied. Doesn't make it right, but I get it.

Some women want to be very involved with their bf's children to the point they want to join in all activities, birthdays, holidays and events. Even try to befriend the mother and cement themselves in the man's life through the child. If the man wants to keep things separate, the new gf can become offended, jealous and accuse the man of not loving her enough or not taking their relationship seriously if he won't "open up" all aspects of his life to her.

Not a great way to start a relationship and the temptation to avoid any potential drama where children are concerned, can be strong. When a woman doesn't allow a new love interest into her children's life she's a protective mother. It's not allows viewed the same with men.

I've seen this more times than I haven't.

Not saying the Scorpio was like this but in the beginning of a relationship you never know how a person will react.

3 years is crazy long though, dude messed up.


No there's no excuse for this.

I can understand in the early days of dating but not after:

She introduces him to her daughter

He moves into her home

3 years go by!

And she had no idea he even had a kid. W t f
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Posted by shellshocker

I can see why he lied. Doesn't make it right, but I get it.

Some women want to be very involved with their bf's children to the point they want to join in all activities, birthdays, holidays and events. Even try to befriend the mother and cement themselves in the man's life through the child. If the man wants to keep things separate, the new gf can become offended, jealous and accuse the man of not loving her enough or not taking their relationship seriously if he won't "open up" all aspects of his life to her.

Not a great way to start a relationship and the temptation to avoid any potential drama where children are concerned, can be strong. When a woman doesn't allow a new love interest into her children's life she's a protective mother. It's not allows viewed the same with men.

I've seen this more times than I haven't.

Not saying the Scorpio was like this but in the beginning of a relationship you never know how a person will react.

3 years is crazy long though, dude messed up.

No there's no excuse for this.

I can understand in the early days of dating but not after:

She introduces him to her daughter

He moves into her home

3 years go by!

And she had no idea he even had a kid. W t f
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If it was the other way around a man would not think she was “wife” material and she would be practically labeled a dead beat mom!

It just comes off shady AF
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Posted by bri

Anyways she revealed the same week we met that she was involved with someone but didn't see any future with that person. I also was in the same position but I didn't reveal that. It took me 3 months to reveal that information but I also didn't reveal that we also have a son together, and as at that time he was 7 months old. When I revealed that information, she asked me if there was anything else i needed to tell her and I said no. I ended the relationship with my son's mom but i wasn't ready to tell my Scorpio woman about my child, meanwhile i had a great relationship with her daughter.

Well fast forward to last week, I revealed to her about my son...

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Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by shellshocker

I can see why he lied. Doesn't make it right, but I get it.

Some women want to be very involved with their bf's children to the point they want to join in all activities, birthdays, holidays and events. Even try to befriend the mother and cement themselves in the man's life through the child. If the man wants to keep things separate, the new gf can become offended, jealous and accuse the man of not loving her enough or not taking their relationship seriously if he won't "open up" all aspects of his life to her.

Not a great way to start a relationship and the temptation to avoid any potential drama where children are concerned, can be strong. When a woman doesn't allow a new love interest into her children's life she's a protective mother. It's not allows viewed the same with men.

I've seen this more times than I haven't.

Not saying the Scorpio was like this but in the beginning of a relationship you never know how a person will react.

3 years is crazy long though, dude messed up.

No there's no excuse for this.

I can understand in the early days of dating but not after:

She introduces him to her daughter

He moves into her home

3 years go by!

And she had no idea he even had a kid. W t f

If it was the other way around a man would not think she was “wife” material and she would be practically labeled a dead beat mom!

It just comes off shady AF
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Its extremely shady.

Op is asking how he builds back trust with her.

Forget building back trust with him. She's gonna need a hell of alot of therapy and time and soul searching to be able to trust ANYONE in the future.

This shit is verrrryyyyy damaging.
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Posted by bri

Man you get my logic as to why i did it. He was too young to be brought around and i wanted him to be familiar with both parents before bringing any person he will be close too without any of the parents feeling like someone was coming to take their place as a mother.

I understand how I handled it was wrong and maybe 3 yrs was too long. He's my only child i have no experience being a parent so I did what I thought was best for him.

You really need to go somewhere else with that bullsh*t. So who and what exactly were you trying to protect? The mother's feelings or your child from said Scorp that you had no problem moving in with and playing daddy to her child...

"...and maybe 3 years was too long..." Yeah, just stop.
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Posted by bri

Man you get my logic as to why i did it. He was too young to be brought around and i wanted him to be familiar with both parents before bringing any person he will be close too without any of the parents feeling like someone was coming to take their place as a mother.

I understand how I handled it was wrong and maybe 3 yrs was too long. He's my only child i have no experience being a parent so I did what I thought was best for him.

You really need to go somewhere else with that bullsh*t. So who and what exactly were you trying to protect? The mother's feelings or your child from said Scorp that you had no problem moving in with and playing daddy to her child...

"...and maybe 3 years was too long..." Yeah, just stop.
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He says it right there... "i wanted him to be familiar with both parents before bringing any person he will be close too without any of the parents feeling like someone was coming to take their place as a mother."

He didn't want his baby momma knowing about the scorpio. I'm guessing if his kids mom was part of this conversation right now her take would be entirely different than his. Bet he was with her long after he told the scorp he ended things. Hell maybe he still is.
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First dude says he lied to protect the Scorp.

Then it's so baby moms wouldn't feel some type of way that she has been replaced or feel threatened that her spot may be replaced by said Scorp (although I'm not sure how that can happen when she is the child's birth mother)

Now it's "I was doing what was best for my son"....the same son he acted like didn't exist.

This Scorp is giving you false hope that this can be fixed by entertaining you anymore. Or you haven't told her any of this BS and you're testing it out here to see how Scorp women will react. Cause......
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Posted by MareInfame

Pshhhhh.... DUDE, stop lying!! There’s no end to you!

You’ll follow any logic that makes you look good 🙄. Please, you ALREADY said in your OP that you did this to protect HER. Now since someone else brought in a better logical explanation you make it sound like that is what you “meant” to say?!?! You “meant” to protect your son.... please, STOP BULL-SHITTING😠😤 and get your story straight.

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Posted by bri

It wasn't intentional to hide my child from her, I just wasn't ready to open up that part of my life for her to get involve with him.

Hiding a whole human for 3years from your partner who you live with is ABSOLUTELY intentional!

Again, you need to stop lying to yourself and downplaying how fucked up this is. You want her to magically build trust with you again but you can't even take accountability for your own actions.
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