How do Scorps Ever Get Beyond First Base?

Okay, I posted here a few weeks ago. Got asked out by this scorp guy who wanted to spend Thanksgiving weekend with me. Well, I bailed on him because I have a lot going on.....lots of personal stuff I am working out. So I told Scorp, look I will contact you when things seem a bit more in line.

So I saw him on-line this evening. Thought I would say hello and see how he is doing. My thinking is we can be friends. Well he came right out and said "Look are you bull shitting me?" I said, "What do you mean?" He says, "Well are you ever going to get together with me so I can F**k you? Because if you are not quit wasting my time." I thought to myself well ......So I said "Good-bye." So I send one more response to him, "What makes you think I would F**k you anyway?" His response, "I know you would have and liked it" I told him, "Look I try not to make it a habit to have sex with pricks."

So I have written this one off, deleted his phone number, and erased his IM id. The point is, if any of you all know me, I can be a casual kinda girl and not a problem with FWB. However, the way he approached the situation was such a HUGE turn-off to me. BTW - I gave him no indication I would sleep with him any who .....that was so presumptive of him ....and very arrogant.

So, this is the same story for me and scorp men. This is a prime example of why it never even goes past first base with them. I write them off as unpolitically correct kind of people who do not know how to treat a woman, and glad that I never explored anything more.

Do other people see this same kind of behavior with scorps?

PD

"Okay,maybe the expletives were a bit much,but I don't see what the problem is/was here"

Bling ....are you a scorp? Is this your normal dialogue to a girl you want to have sex with?

What is wrong with it, is I probably would have had sexual relations, but his way of going about it was cold, ruthless, abbrassive, and just plain tacky. That is what was wrong with it. He is also 10 years younger than me, so maybe it is the age gap, perhaps this is the way younger guys approach girls ....dunno. I have dated younger men that have even been younger than him and never was approached in this manner. I just find most scorp guys rub me the wrong way for this exact reason. I try over and over again because this is supposed to be a hot match .......yet ......I stay stuck at first base with them because I cannot get past their abbrassive behavior. *sigh*

PD

He was rejected so he reacted this way. What a nobhead..

I really can't get to grips with this whole FWB...what a load of ol' rubbish..why do women do that? Still...whatever...just pisses me off royal.

I am surprised he didn't actually come back with a comment for "Look I try not to make it a habit to have sex with pricks."

Think about it..

lol..you would!

Well yeah, I agree..and you can pick up those kinds anywhere..Ten a penny these days..

What did I read somewhere the other day..oh yeah..a 26 year old guy being asked what he thought of committed relationships "not much, you can have guaranteed sex on first dates these days who wants a committed relationship"

I rest my case.

Hey not all us women are like that...but the harlots do give the rest of us good ones a bad name..as a result we all get treated the same..You can still be empowering but not by selling your body to these leaches out there..but by making something of yourselves..gawd..

If we didn't have cheap tarts walking around the place..things would've been different...in my parents days they were lucky if they even met up in private...Bring back the old style of courtship....

I been watching too many period dramas..lol..

Lol..Nooooo...where men declared their undying love and were true to just one women. AND she made him wait like 2 years to even touch her hand before marriage...and where he actually WAITED THAT LONG to be married to her...awww...those were the days...

Sigh..

They don't make them like that anymore.

But it's still sweet nonetheless...nowadays its just meet, go back to his/her place, do the deed, end of relationship...

What the fuck...wheres the mystery, the hard work, the allure, the missing someone part...

" But it's still sweet nonetheless...nowadays its just meet, go back to his/her place, do the deed, end of relationship...

What the treetrunk...wheres the mystery, the hard work, the allure, the missing someone part..."


You females get exactly what you require and demand from you male counterpart........


AMD

LOL @ Xun..seriously, there have been far too many on telly recently..and as the recession is in full swing..I don't get out much..Oh the shame of it all..

But I still believe in old romantic style of courtship...none of this sleeping around..its meaningless and emotionless..

Unfortunately there is none..

ILibra..do you live in Ireland?..oh man..I love those boys..with the whole rough-rugged beard kinda look and that accent...Rarrrr..oh boy...but they are real charmers..actually they are playboy epitomised..

AM😱 "You females get exactly what you require and demand from you male counterpart........"

But it takes a real man and woman to commit. Not many are cut out for the job.

Pretty much anything is on demand these days...

Xun: "think sometimes you have to realize you can't have it all"

I agree to a certain degree. Perfection does not exist in this day and age..but as long as you set yourself some standards at least..what is acceptable/not acceptable for you as an individual.

FWB, Sex on first dates, cougars all the demise of relationships these days..I blame media and society..lack of morals, lack of discipline, lack of father figures in single parent families (although I figure this is difficult so not blaming all single mothers here)

I think I am gonna buy a cat..

Xun: "Or you can join them" - perish the thought. No way. Whilst I am definitely NOT a believer of "good things come to those who wait", I certainly think waiting helps you see things a lot clearer. However, waiting around for things to fall into your lap is just a fatalist approach to life...you have to MAKE things happen..but not FORCE..there is a big difference..

And Xun..you don't have to be part of any cube if you don't want to..

One shouldn't completely be impartial to those things however..It's just so darn complicated these days. The older/more independent you become, the more you expect from people..and obviously becoming set in your ways..

A relationship..helping each other emotionally, financially, physically. I don't understand how that is difficult to achieve for some.

Bling: "It's funny how cougars are pretty much Dinosaurs these days,when the whole thing was/is an attempt to be the opposite"

Apparantly the acceptable age to date if you want to date the younger guy is dividing your age by 2 and then adding 7...I don't bloody well think so. The minimum age I would consider for dating is 29..So hard to find someone in the 30-34 age range that isn't already married or divorced with kids.

Sod off bling..don't make me hate you..lol..men have it so easy!

Anyways..Rays_heart..lets elope

Bloody northerners...

Yes there is plenty of fire..everywhere..lol..

Belts out: I am on firrrre..

Whats your sign RH?

lol @ Ray and Missmorals

Be careful Missmorals, he has a libra moon, you can't be too direct with airy moon people lol!!! I have an Aqua moon so I know. Directness scares me to death lol but I like directness, I really do ...

Its a terrible circle ....

Oh my go it's JD..lol...why did you change your name?...sheesh...and I am not really a fan of anything libra...apologies...I will take back my comments!..lol..you are free to roam/prowl DXP...

I do...I have an issue with age...I don't want them to look up at me (well slightly difficult considering my height) like a mother figure..eek..that's wrong..that's more a cancerian thing..LOL..I heard those boys want a mother replacement...

Can you imagine if during a moment of passion whilst they are erm..cough..erm..you know fondling with the breasts..whether they are thinking of their mothers...Jesus!

lol @ MM ... c'mon I see you don't know ... I'm the old user Jackdoniel a Scorpio. So keep your belt on, I'll remove it myself when need be.

ooooooooohhhooohhh Ray 😄

The man speaks for himself. haha, thats why I hid my comment lol, I didn't want to get in trouble 😉 I've been in trouble once 😄

It's this whole need to please thing that just irritates the crap out of me.The need to be centre of everyone's affection.and the fake persona, exaggerated displays of affection...Don't get me wrong..there must be some real gems out there...oh and another one I despise is Gemini for much the same reasons.

It's nothing against you Irishlibra...you strike me as pretty normal..

Apparantly all scorpios are sleazebags too...I don't really care as it doesn't apply to me..I am me and can't fully relate to most scorpio chicks as it happens..

So you don't want to breast feed anyone MM? I can understand that lol

LOL..definitely not a cancer!..hahha..

Don't mind breastfeeding a kitty though...they are favourites..love them boys as you all probably know...

"He certainly didn't see you as anymore than a temporary thing and that's how he treats temporary things. The way he addressed you, shows how much respect he has for temporary mates.

I barely knew the dude ......I was not ready to go buy china or anything. I was going to hang out with him just to get to know him a little more. I am glad that did not happen. Regardless if we would have been just FWB that is still no reason to treat someone like this. Again, I barely knew the dude. So, if he was looking for just a piece of ass, he went about it allllllll the wrong way. Trust me I can go get a piece of ass .....and not be treated like this. Who does he think he is? I will not tolerate anyone treating me or talking to me like dirt. Besides, just because people who have FWB relations generally have a getting to know you phase to see if the chemistry is there. If he was just looking for somewhere to stick his pencil ......they make paid services for this kind of thing like porn shops and prostitutes. I am sure these things are not immune for being treated as such.

My point of this topic Ray is I find every Scorpio guy I meet like this and the behavior is totally repulisve to me. Again, I am not immune to FWB relations, but I have never been talked to or treated like this with anybody I have had FWB relations with. So if it was a piece of ass he just wanted, than he needs to talk a lot nicer to get what he wants.

As for younger girls liking this kind of talk, I find that hard to believe.

PD

"He certainly didn't see you as anymore than a temporary thing and that's how he treats temporary things. The way he addressed you, shows how much respect he has for temporary mates."

Ray,

1 - I just met the dude .....I was not ready to go buy china or anything.
2 - If he wanted a piece of ass he went about it the wrong way. I have had FWB realtions and have never been treated by any of them in this way.
3 - Their are paid services tht he can most certainly treat as such ......I am not his bitch or willing to play this part. I did nothing to deserve such disrespect.

The point of this topic was I find every Scorpio guy I meet as such. The behavior is so repulsive that it is big turn off to me. Even if I was open to be a FWB kind of person, I like to get to know people.

PD

Indeed Irishlibra..indeed...those kind

I am waiting for Bling to drop his "burt reynolds" comment..hahahha

Ok peace out, need to go have a bath...pizza arriving any moment..

Bollox..it's already arrived..

Ok, go ahead keep entertaining me..whilst I eat and watch Merlin on telly.

"He certainly didn't see you as anymore than a temporary thing and that's how he treats temporary things. The way he addressed you, shows how much respect he has for temporary mates."

Ray,

1 - I just met the dude .....I was not ready to go buy china or anything.
2 - If he wanted a piece of ass he went about it the wrong way. I have had FWB realtions and have never been treated by any of them in this way.
3 - Their are paid services tht he can most certainly treat as such ......I am not his bitch or willing to play this part. I did nothing to deserve such disrespect.

The point of this topic was I find every Scorpio guy I meet as such. The behavior is so repulsive that it is big turn-off to me. Even if I was open to be a FWB kind of person, I like to get to know people and I have a common respect for people.

As for younger girls liking this ......I find that hard to believe.

PD

Shittttt I hate not being able to see my post. Sorry did not think it had posted. *sigh*

"That's why I said his choice of words was a bit much,but this guy was only going to be a piece of ass for thanksgiving anyways,right ??"

I did not know what he was going to be .....as I said I like to get to know people. Oh, at least he was easy to get to know and realized very fast, he is not my kinda people. As for being thanksgiving meet ......not necessairly because he said he comes into town often. So I guess his intentions were I would be his bitch for when he was in town. Again, as I posted, there are paid services for this kinda things. 🙂 Hell if that is what he was looking at .....maybe I should of put a huge price tag on that. It would have fit the situation much better.

PD

exactly...how u carry yourself...remember he will be miles ahead of you in terms of having worked u out...despite his age

"if every Scorpio you meet is disrespectful than there is a problem PD. It's no coincidence. Your heart maybe good but maybe the way you interact or carry yourself in conversations, brings you up as a temporary thing. Now it's all a matter of how these guys treat such women."

WTF—? So if a girl is a sexy being .....she must want it— There are creeps out there that prey on this same kind of thinking .....usually called rape. This is assuming you think I did something to provoke this behavior.

Okay where do you get provoking from:

Hey, how are you doing?
So you are in the military, what do you do?
Well, I like to work out and I am working on going to South America....blah blah blah

There is something very wrong with that statement Ray......

If this is the common thinking of most scorpio men, than I think it is in my interest to stay as far away as possible......and most women for that matter. That is some messed up thinking, and not normal whatsoever.

PD

"I also know that the truth often lies in the blah blah blah's posted at the end of it"

Well, I gave no indication that I wanted to have sex with him. We flirted back and forth when we first met. He was funny and he asked me I wanted to hang with him while he was in town. I did not know that this was an indication of a one track mind. Perhaps, he took "Yeah, that would be fun" out of context, but other than that the blah blah mentioned nothing of sex or any promise of sex. Even if there were undertones of the inuendo .....what does that matter? The truth of the matter NO ONE deserves to be treated as such.

I dunno, but I still rest my case, that is why I have dated very few Scorps or if I did it went no where real fast. The behavior is too abrassive, and unappealing.

PD

Like a pisces, they hate the bluntness. It seems to me the only thing that stopped you was he killed the flowery dream. Had he had more tact, i.e. flowerly diction, he would've been in those panties sooner or later.

You knew what he wanted from jump street messing with a guy 10 yrs your junior.



I do blame women, ftmp, for the just out right disrespect that is running rampant in the male community (mainly younger men). It only takes one woman to take the BS guys dish out...

A man will only treat you in the manner you LET him treat you. No you didnt let him treat you that way M'Lady b/c you have cut him off. Dont back peddle either.

"Even if there were undertones of the inuendo .....what does that matter? The truth of the matter NO ONE deserves to be treated as such."


They may not be saying it to your face or using such expletives, but the fact of the matter is they still dont respect you.

^^They meaning in general terms.

Is it just me or does not anyone really understand the issue .......Scorps think they have every reason to disrespect women. I don't care if I acted as Mary Magdalene or Ms. Mary Prude........I don't deserve to be treated as such. There is just a common respect people show each other. The point is for some reason if the shoe fits people are entitled to be treated as such is the senses. There is something very wrong with this thinking.

Lady_M - I have dated guys younger than me, and if anything I got treated the opposite. Sure of course I knew what a younger dude wants ....they all want the MILF. I think you hit the nail on the head with this "It only takes one woman to take the BS guys dish out... " That is damn straight, because if I was not willing to be his bitch, he would find someone else to play that role. *Sigh* The unexcuseable behavior of disrespect is still no excuse, in my opinion.

PD

"They may not be saying it to your face or using such expletives, but the fact of the matter is they still dont respect you."

Than these are definately not the people for me. I am not so desperate of a woman that I would ever have to subject myself to such behavior. I guess good riddance than. *Sigh*

PD

"PD what kind of relationship you wanted with him?"

I did not know what kind of relationship I wanted with him. I never really got to know him to even decipher what kind of relationship I wanted. To be honest that is another reason why I bailed, because I am not really sure what I want as far as FWB or real relationship. I am in a state of flux right now.

PD

Seems you like to get yourself in trouble Cappy. I didn't see your comment though.

Whoa @_@

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Well ......... 😉 No I don't .... well, it depends on who it is 😄

my two cents....it doesnt matter what he'thought' she wanted or didnt want, that is no excuse for him to talk that way....it was disresctful and she obviously is bothered by it and didnt put up with it...good for you...also, doesnt matter that he was younger, my husband was seven years younger and NEVER talked to me anywhere near that...i do think that being a scorpio has something to do with it, because they do feel very comfortable talking to women this way for some reason

Well after reading what happened, I'd surely be pissed off and I wouldn't take it either. With a scorpio man, its almost like dealing with a virgo -- you have to 'win' their respect early on and that sets the tone for how they treat you.

But that involves too much thinking for me with it comes to relationships, I mean you shouldn't have to act a certain way because its important to be yourself. I guess it matters whether or not the right click is there *shrugs*

"PD and Irish ... I know that the guy was disrespectful and I would single him out but I'm more concerned about why is it that it keeps happening. If you believe that all Scorpios are disrespectful than stop interacting with Scorpios, end of story. If you're asking, it's because deep inside you know that this isn't true. Now ask yourself, the question that you should ask. Why is it that you keep meeting disrespectful men?"

ooooooo Ray you have it all wrong.

"If you believe that all Scorpios are disrespectful than stop interacting with Scorpios, end of story. If you're asking, it's because deep inside you know that this isn't true."

I have not interacted or gone out with a scorp for a few years now. I met this guy thought he might be different. Of course I hate generalizations about one sun sign ....that is why I went out with him. I cannot just stop interacting with one entire zodiac sign.....that would be unrealistic.

"Now ask yourself, the question that you should ask. Why is it that you keep meeting disrespectful men?"

That is my point .....I don't allow myself to interact with disrespectful men. I don't keep meeting men like this.....why do you think I am floored? I am talking about Scorpio men I have interacted with. From my previous history I am noticing this common characteristic. In my men history I have not had any luck with relations with the scorpio for this exact reason.

Irish - THANK YOU .....YOU get it!!!! 🙂

Cappy - I agree with you that Virgo's have very similar characteristics. I imagine this is why I don't date these signs either.

I am supposed to be perfect with Pisces and Cancer..

::laughs out loud::

I don't somehow think so. I have no idea who I am perfect with..It depends on the characteristics of the individual..I could end up with a bloody gemini or Libra for all my sins...imagine!

Truth is..just because the books say you are a perfect match for someone, doesn't necessarily mean you are..So if you've had one too many bad experiences with Scorpio...don't go for them..simple. The minute you find out they are scorpio..run for the hills..I can't say I am a fan of Scorpio men for dating purposes. I get on with them great as friends..but that's it. Don't do same sign dating..it's incestuous