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buckdich
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I've gone exclusive with a Scorp, and I'm already worried about his less-than-noble intentions...

He wants to know absolutely everything about me. Every little detail. And not just "about" me, but a thorough recount of everything I've done while he wasn't present. And if I answer, he never seems enthusiastic or natural about the conversation that follows.

The worst was when he wanted to look at my emails while I got up to use the restroom. At least I think...he told me not to sign out.

I won't let him snoop, and I won't give him any details or personal information that I wouldn't have already told him. And then he gets sulky.

Is he trying to find something juicy, something embarrassing/scandalous for him to air to the world out of sheer, malicious revenge?

He seems open about his own life...to the detail. But that could be a fabricated facade, to trap me into giving him juicy gossip.
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I'm sorry, but Scorpios are notorious for conning and swindling people out of sheer cruelty and personal gain. I don't believe they're all sociopaths, but it's not surprising when they do turn out to be, nonetheless. I don't judge people by sign before they actually provide merit to the judgment.

yes, I was the one with 3 scorps, not cheating, but I was just dating them. I broke off contact with the other two, weeks ago, to be exclusive with this one.
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elessque, dating's not easy. None of my friends have healthy relationships, my parents had the nastiest divorce ever...it's easier said than done to have a good relationship, where everything is resolved by speaking honestly. Honesty usually makes things worse.

If I can't solve the problem with this guy, then I give up on dating. I don't need it...too busy with my career. I need to stop listening to society saying that dating is expected. It's not right.
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Posted by buckdich
I'm sorry, but Scorpios are notorious for conning and swindling people out of sheer cruelty and personal gain. I don't believe they're all sociopaths, but it's not surprising when they do turn out to be, nonetheless. I don't judge people by sign before they actually provide merit to the judgment.

yes, I was the one with 3 scorps, not cheating, but I was just dating them. I broke off contact with the other two, weeks ago, to be exclusive with this one.



"DSM-IV

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition (DSM IV-TR), defines antisocial personality disorder (in Axis II Cluster B) as🦇1]

A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the following:

failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead;
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;
B) The individual is at least age 18 years.
C) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D) The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or a manic episode."

I absolutely positively cannot stand people using medical disorders as a phrase or loose definition of a personality type. It's uneducated behavior on your part.

You had this coming to you, and the entire Scorpio board warned you FAR ahead of time. He has absolutely no reason to trust you. Elle is being honest, so don't start with the 'she dislikes me' bull. It's just freaking honesty - suck it up and move on.

Everything is clearer in hindsight, but don't think for a moment this isn't a result of your own actions.
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Elle is just trying to elighten you to what your denial is hiding from you. Kinda like "Let me introduce you to the facts that are SCREAMING in your face yet you cant see them.

You are too close to the situation to see his and your own behavior objectively. Just like ALL of us are when we are in gooey eyed love. When it's a scorpio, oh holy hell, it's oooey gooey blind ass love.
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*shrug* Bend Over, I don't care that you were casually dating three Scorps, more power to ya. Date six, date ten. But do it OPENLY and HONESTLY. You LIED to the three Scorps about exclusivity. "Coming clean" and telling them the truth LATER wasn't what got you into hot water (you are like the little frog sitting in a pot of warm water, with the heat slowly increasing to boiling, but you sit there croaking, not knowing you're about to be din-din!).. the original bold-faced LIE was what got this ball rolling.


Now one of them is exclusive to you? Yeah, well, he knows you to be a girl who has no problem juggling multiple men and LYING about it (ahhh those "little Libra lies" drive me banana cream pie!).. and even a SMALL lie is a LIE to a Water, babe.. ESP a Scorp. Ergo, he doesn't trust you. Straight up, no gilding the lily. Scorps are distrustful by nature - give them a good damn reason to check up on you (like by LYING to their FACE), and they'll probably NEVER trust you. But go ahead and duke it out to the bitter end.

To tell you the truth, I'm surprised you aren't on a milk carton by now. :/
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Posted by buckdich
elessque, dating's not easy. None of my friends have healthy relationships, my parents had the nastiest divorce ever...it's easier said than done to have a good relationship, where everything is resolved by speaking honestly. Honesty usually makes things worse.

If I can't solve the problem with this guy, then I give up on dating. I don't need it...too busy with my career. I need to stop listening to society saying that dating is expected. It's not right.




Birds of a feather.
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He's not trying to blackmail you, BUT that doesnt mean he trusts you. You'll be jumping through hoops, so if you're wore out now either prepare yourself, or end it now. This is considering everything from his sun sign, to where he fell in the men he was "competing against".

One thing? He is def wondering WHY you chose HIM of the three... and that makes him suspicious of you in and amongst itself.

I would keep it squeaky clean from here on out, what he does in the future is only what you allow yourself to be hung with, so keep the rope short and nothing that can be used.
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Posted by Nefer
*shrug* Bend Over, I don't care that you were casually dating three Scorps, more power to ya. Date six, date ten. But do it OPENLY and HONESTLY. You LIED to the three Scorps about exclusivity. "Coming clean" and telling them the truth LATER wasn't what got you into hot water (you are like the little frog sitting in a pot of warm water, with the heat slowly increasing to boiling, but you sit there croaking, not knowing you're about to be din-din!).. the original bold-faced LIE was what got this ball rolling.


Now one of them is exclusive to you? Yeah, well, he knows you to be a girl who has no problem juggling multiple men and LYING about it (ahhh those "little Libra lies" drive me banana cream pie!).. and even a SMALL lie is a LIE to a Water, babe.. ESP a Scorp. Ergo, he doesn't trust you. Straight up, no gilding the lily. Scorps are distrustful by nature - give them a good damn reason to check up on you (like by LYING to their FACE), and they'll probably NEVER trust you. But go ahead and duke it out to the bitter end.

To tell you the truth, I'm surprised you aren't on a milk carton by now. :/



Something you and elessqque don't understand is that in my usual experience, HONESTY (not the lie that was hidden), usually gets me in trouble.

A few random examples I recall:

1. Best friend asking how a shirt looked on her.
Me: "Bad. It makes you look pregnant."
She then went on this ridiculous starvation diet.

2. Someone asking me why I never hang out att their house. Rather than making my usual white lie about busy schedules, etc, I told the truth: "Because I get bored when I do.."
All kinds of drama started from that...she tried to get me fired at the time.

3. Telling someone I had to sit next to in an auditorium class daily that his breath stunk. Normally, I'd just suffer through it. He called me a bitch.
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Posted by buckdich
Posted by Nefer
*shrug* Bend Over, I don't care that you were casually dating three Scorps, more power to ya. Date six, date ten. But do it OPENLY and HONESTLY. You LIED to the three Scorps about exclusivity. "Coming clean" and telling them the truth LATER wasn't what got you into hot water (you are like the little frog sitting in a pot of warm water, with the heat slowly increasing to boiling, but you sit there croaking, not knowing you're about to be din-din!).. the original bold-faced LIE was what got this ball rolling.


Now one of them is exclusive to you? Yeah, well, he knows you to be a girl who has no problem juggling multiple men and LYING about it (ahhh those "little Libra lies" drive me banana cream pie!).. and even a SMALL lie is a LIE to a Water, babe.. ESP a Scorp. Ergo, he doesn't trust you. Straight up, no gilding the lily. Scorps are distrustful by nature - give them a good damn reason to check up on you (like by LYING to their FACE), and they'll probably NEVER trust you. But go ahead and duke it out to the bitter end.

To tell you the truth, I'm surprised you aren't on a milk carton by now. :/



Something you and elessqque don't understand is that in my usual experience, HONESTY (not the lie that was hidden), usually gets me in trouble.

A few random examples I recall:

1. Best friend asking how a shirt looked on her.
Me: "Bad. It makes you look pregnant."
She then went on this ridiculous starvation diet.

2. Someone asking me why I never hang out att their house. Rather than making my usual white lie about busy schedules, etc, I told the truth: "Because I get bored when I do.."
All kinds of drama started from that...she tried to get me fired at the time.

3. Telling someone I had to sit next to in an auditorium class daily that his breath stunk. Normally, I'd just suffer through it. He called me a bitch.
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Something things you don't understand are:
1: spelling
2: humility

'elessqque'? Seriously? Her username is RIGHT THERE. Can you not transcribe that?
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Well why dont you end it if he doesnt trust you? I have ended it with my man and will never see or talk to him ever again and want nothing to do with him at all after this weekend so yeh I suggest you tell him goodbye and end it and move on with your life, like I am doing with mine. I can not and will not put up with someone who doesnt trust me, ppl like that are dickheads, concerned with only themselves. So goodbye.
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You really think I would forgive you for everything you have done to me? I told you leave me alone I want nothing from you. Youve hurt me long enough and still think that you can get away with hurting me? Yeh you probably can but fuck off and leave me alone. This is what I am saying to him now, coz I know he wont see or meet me this weekend like everything else he has done to me this is another one of these times where this comes into it, so I get in early and say leave me alone, so when Monday comes around he will understand that I have left him and want nothing to do with him coz he never meet me like I had asked him to. Now if he comes and meets me all this will be water under the bridge and we can start from there. So its up to you whether you want to be with me or not. Also its up to you whether or not you will put up with his behaviour of not trusting you.
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Posted by sheathedclaws
Posted by buckdich
Posted by Nefer
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Something you and elessqque don't understand is that in my usual experience, HONESTY (not the lie that was hidden), usually gets me in trouble.

A few random examples I recall:

1. Best friend asking how a shirt looked on her.
Me: "Bad. It makes you look pregnant."
She then went on this ridiculous starvation diet.

2. Someone asking me why I never hang out att their house. Rather than making my usual white lie about busy schedules, etc, I told the truth: "Because I get bored when I do.."
All kinds of drama started from that...she tried to get me fired at the time.

3. Telling someone I had to sit next to in an auditorium class daily that his breath stunk. Normally, I'd just suffer through it. He called me a bitch.



Something things you don't understand are:
1: spelling
2: humility

'elessqque'? Seriously? Her username is RIGHT THERE. Can you not transcribe that?
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IMHO, your response is leaning on the quite rude side of the line. Step back, and chill. Generally people who jump out of the gate, such as you have right here? Have their own issues or problems going on and take it out on others, and in ways that seem less than stellar let alone productive. Or, have a deep seated or known dislike only making they themselves look foolish. In which, reading this? There are bigger fish to fry rather than a simple typo. Unless of course perfection is the only word known in the Merriam/Webster? Possibly.

I vote, since there seems to be so many grammar nazi's on this board, who hold themselves above everyone else and have no problems pointing the error of human nature out on people, that A) they buy a full length mirror so they themselves can see they are only H U M A N as well, OR the big drum roll: Have Duncan start a grammar, punctuation, and proper etiquette portion of the forum so those of within this lovely domain have a place they can either vent over people stupity or simply typing on a phone, auto correct, or quickly (the dare of them*gasps*) or can begin teaching people not only how to spell, punctuate, and speak grammatically correctly, but some humility for themselves perhaps. 😄

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Posted by buckdich
I'm a Libra, with a Sagittarius moon, Leo Venus. Aquarius rising.

All of this seems very doom and gloom...I don't know if I'm OK with this. I might cancel the exclusivity agreement, and write him off altogether...I don't want him able to collect information to be used against me one day.

It's like you have to be holy and perfect to have a successful relationship. I give up.



No, you just don't need to be a stupid bitch about it all. Get your head out of your self absorbed ass. 🙂
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blue is right, give him all of it so he has nothing.

My "ex scorp" did continual background checks on me. I did my own investigating and realized what he was doing, in which he didnt realize himself how good I am at investigating myself 😉 haha Finally, I sent a text and asked when was he going to finally realize there wasn't anything he could, would, or will find on me. This was during the long, LONG MIA of him not speaking to me over a period of months. I also had to throw in there, to get my dig in, that since I am a Notary a complete background check is required and had he been smart, and trusted me when I told him I was one, he woulve saved himself both the time and money. And afterwards I dropped him a note, with my Notary stamp on it just to rub it in ... and too, I knew he probably STILL wouldnt believe me ... Needless to say? The BG checks stopped LMAO
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I think a point trying to be made, is damned if you do-damned if you don't. Her examples into why and how to tell people the truth lead to bad reactions.

I agree, not everyone takes the truth well or most importantly, it does or would seem and/or deemed hurtful. I would rather skirt around the truth than hurt a friend's feelings over bad breath, or a shirt, etc. But then again, I tend to take people's feelings into consideration. Some people get off on arrogance, and showing superiority by waving the 'I'm all for hard, cold honesty, fuck your feelings flag' ... often times, they go hand in hand ... the flag, and those waving it.

I further can attest, there is nothing wrong with someone dating more than one person at a time. I for one can't because of the same predicament OP found herself in, a person doesn't know how to tell the truth out of saving someone else's feelings. Is it right? No. Is it human? Yes. Especially if someone is still trying to decide if they want to date them or not. So to remain quiet doesn't stir anything up, let alone send red flags out when not necessarily there are any.

The mere fact is that too many thoughts are pointing the finger at who to blame. When in a reality, it hits too close to home for many and a resentment of many colors starts to paint itself as it has here.
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Posted by buckdich
I've gone exclusive with a Scorp, and I'm already worried about his less-than-noble intentions...

He wants to know absolutely everything about me. Every little detail. And not just "about" me, but a thorough recount of everything I've done while he wasn't present. And if I answer, he never seems enthusiastic or natural about the conversation that follows.

The worst was when he wanted to look at my emails while I got up to use the restroom. At least I think...he told me not to sign out.

I won't let him snoop, and I won't give him any details or personal information that I wouldn't have already told him. And then he gets sulky.

Is he trying to find something juicy, something embarrassing/scandalous for him to air to the world out of sheer, malicious revenge?

He seems open about his own life...to the detail. But that could be a fabricated facade, to trap me into giving him juicy gossip.



Isn't this normal for a scorp anyway? (the 'researching' a person).
We could always see the malicious in any situation if we wanted to, it could just be plain innocent on his part so why stress.
My scorp friend came straight out and said he looked me up. He keeps finding info on me and to be honest, it doesn't phase me. I thought it was cute and flattering that he'd actually spend his precious time doing that.

... But then maybe I'm weird! Lol
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Posted by everevolvingepithet
Either way, it doesn't sound like any of it turned out as planned so th op might aswell chalk it up to experience.



That would be too simple tho, EEE. Not in a perfect world ... lets take DXP for an example. Where people do not make mistakes, allowed to learn from them, or have life lessons. It appears as tho most people here are born perfect, and those of whom are not are subject to forever tarnished ridcule and doomed to hell where they were bred and belong.

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I'm not saying that OP doesnt have her own part in this. What I WILL say though, is when you are too close to the trees you dont see the forest.

Too many people fail to take themselves out of other peoples shoes, and start becoming complete fucking pricks, prudes, dicks, holier than thou bitches here.

I and a handful of other people here dont right away start bashing people the way that I have seen here at DXP, and more commonly in the last six months, people who are trying to fit in and become bullies. There are so many times I lurk and do not post, I see the way others ridcule, put down, get off on making fun of people, and hide behind their computer screens. And at the drop of a coin, and then snicker and egg people on or PM others to join in on their fuck with people festivle.

One person in particular completely deleted their account and PMd me for being kind when no one else was and wouldnt be coming back ever. My take?! Had ANYONE tried to get to know this person? Or try to look at human nature, step out of their little minute worlds and stop thinking only of their perfect selves would realize there was WAAAAYYYYY more behind this person than meets the eye, and was someone to look at and admire. But it's easier to be fuckheads and creeps. This is why I very seldom put anything personal about myself on here, and only share experiences I could care less if someone comes back on me on.

I try to stop and look at the person, where they are from, what their upbringing is. For those grammar nazis, maybe they come from an area where education is low, or were forced to quit school, or maybe dont excel in proper sentence or word formation however could build a home with a blindfold on, or put a rocket on the moon because they are a math wiz.

Not all personalities will get along, however there tends to be a trend of followers. And 98% of the people here, I wouldnt be caught dead with with the way they treat people and talk to people 99.9 of their existence on DXP ... let alone ever want or would call them a friend. Unless hypocrite and bully are acronyms for friend.
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Posted by BigGirlPanties
Why so angry lately, Ocean? You used to be more tolerant? I recall many postings of YOURS in which you've skinned someone ass too in frustration of their inane behavior.



No, what I was was showing humility and tact. Half the people here have no idea what I think or feel. I bite my tongue, keep my mouth shut, to keep the peace. And I have a keen eye, and can look beyond surface. If you see me blow? It's because I'm putting someone back in their place.
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buckdich
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Posted by BigGirlPanties
I agree with Shethedclawa...a lack of humility is your problem.

Being so aarrogrant as to rationalize being a liar because your honesty causes others pain? Please....your not God and just not that powerful.

But, karma will one day teach you a few things, perhaps.



Wow, calling me arrogant with a god complex is quite a stretch of a response to my post detailing bad reactions from honesty.

You seriously think a person's words can't hurt someone?

You are really not helping at all...I'd appreciate if you don't post anymore in my threads. And I'm sure you'll twist that polite request into an example of "arrogance", but I'm not going to obsess over people who just inherently dislike me. I don't even know you.
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Posted by Ellybean
Oh dear OP.

At least there's not three Scorps anymore. Still from the way you talk, it seems you are incompatible with this guy. It seems like he annoys you and exhausts you more than interests and inspires you. I'd concur with the consensus you should take time to not date, or at least exclusively. Being single and 'celibate' can be a very rewarding time on one's life. Dating different people is fine too, just don't ever lie if someone asks you are dating others, no matter what the sign of the guy. And a bit of personal wisdom, Scorp guys might just not be your thing. We're not for everyone, that's for sure, so you might want to consider that.

And also, being honest, what he's doing is not really that big of a deal, save that the whole 'oh you don't have to sign out' thing is a bit weird/creepy. But other than that, he's not doing anything different than just about any other scorpio. We love to know everything about the person we're interested in. It's supposed to be a compliment really. We like to know, because you interest us and we want to know the entirety of you, your soul and all it's components. If that's not your cup of tea, you might want to consider a more light-hearted and less probing type in love.



I think you may be right. All the guys in my past have been Aquarius or Geminis or Sags.

I do have a puppy crush on Cancers though...they're the only ones who somehow manage to melt my heart!
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Posted by buckdich
I'm 23...still learning by trial and error.



This should be the big thing than. Dating is all about learning what you can and cannot handle. Chill a bit. It's not a race, there's no finish line and you shouldn't stress so early in a dating relationship. Take each experience as a time to reflect on what didn't work with that person, but also on what you might need to work with and change about yourself. Some of the most important relationships in your life might end up being the ones that didn't work out because they made you a better person and more fulfilled when you get to meet someone and find something that works.
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Yeah, work stresses me out enough! Good stress though! 😛

I wish STDs didn't exist, then I'd be all over the FWB idea! LOL
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Hi Dazedscorp,

I know that people aren't harping on the poly idea, that it was about not being truthful. But that's exactly the mistake I realize I made. I know that it was the lying that got me into this pickle. My fault, 100% . I get it.

So when I acknowledge the mistake, it sucks to have people bashing me for it again and again and again...instead of focusing on what to do moving forward.

If we all tormented ourselves about mistakes we made rather than focusing on the future, nobody would get anywhere.
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Posted by DazedScorp
@buck...

You came here seeking advice about a Scorp. No one is bashing you for dating three men at once. If that's what you want to do, or anyone for that matter, feel free to do that. It's perfectly normal.

But what you don't do... Is lie to their face, when they ask you a question. Especially when there are other people involved. I don't remember if you slept with any of them... but if you're sleeping with me, and someone else... I have the right to know, because there are many risks that come along with that.

That's why the Scorp now doesn't trust you. You've lied to him once, so he has every right to worry that you may do it again, but he's willing to give you another shot.

I won't sit here and let you, or anyone else, place the blame on him... because you brought this on yourself. And that is where the bashing is coming from. You can't blame others for the mistakes you've made.

But what you can do, is learn from your mistake, and not repeat it.

The point that I'm trying to make, is that if you want to date a Scorpio male... you have to be honest from the get go. If you lose that trust, expect them to become intrusive of every minute your eyes are open.

If you can't handle that, then you should look for someone else. It's the nature of the beast.



I'm stepping out on a ledge, and correct me if I'm wrong or misread somewhere ... and you KNOW I call you may friend, I do recall reading a post that unless you are in a committed relationship and are exclusive with them, it was no one elses business if you are sleeping with someone else, dating, etc. unless and until there is a commitment.

On a sidenote and to no one in particalar, there is a difference with bashing and pointing something out. The bashing went beyond the 3 scorps here, and that is where there are hypocrites who cry for her to use tact, yet go off on some tagent about things that have nothing to do with her dating 3 scorps. And begin bashing her as a person. Where the hell was their tact? There wasn't any. That is called hypocrisy. Not tact. Additionally it's being petty, immature, and being a complete dick. And I won't let anyone be kicked while they're down, let alone put myself so above someone that I resort to bullshit behavior, all in order to get a laugh, a yeah buddy, or to make themselves feel better let alone popular.
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