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I want to ask something else..I read through all the topic to see if anyone addressed this.
You said you had sex with a Scorpio friend at some point, is this the guy you're talking about? Because then I get where you're going with the "we're connected" comment you made.
If so, then maybe..just maaaybe..this isn't about his back or facebook but about a whole another issue at play.
If I am wrong, apologies.
Posted by IrresistableScorp
Have you considered he's not talking to you right now because he doesn't want to scream his fucking ass off at you and ruin a perfectly good relationship? Simmer down Cancer. Let the guy get in control of his anger or would you rather be nuked to high heaven??EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO TAKE TIME FOR THEMSELVES AND THEY AREN'T REQUIRED TO TELL YOU SHIT IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT.
Either you are a friend and understand or you turn it into ABOUT YOU. Which it ain't. Its about him being pissed and trying to calm the fuck down.
Carry on..
Yes, I would rather he scream at me if he needs to. I can take it. At least it's honest, at least it gives me something to work with and if I need to make amends I can do it. Lying and icing me out just ruins communication and creates more confusion and hard feelings. Or just say he's pissed and doesn't want to talk. That's honest, too.
click to expandOh, all of that has already played out in my head and it's a huge possibility....thus my amusement while also being enormously vexed. I just haven't found a good way to yank that rug out from under him if that really is part of the whole mess because he already knows he's got me twitchy with angst and all. The man can feel me and vice versa. I'm picking up him being pissed but in a dark and brooding way and also amused, where earlier it was a complete wal
I have 3 close Scorpio gfs. Had a massive fallout with one of them because of her misunderstanding smthg I said.
I KNEW there was no way she'd see things my way while she was in a rage so I let her calm down. 3 days later we met up and I saw her open her mouth to say she was sorry. I stopped her right there and we got into a funny discussion about anything else under the sun.
She breathed a sigh of relief.
Not saying this would work here but I thought I would share because that's the way I deal with water people. I do everything within my power not to be inquisitive and fly off the handle and let them come to their senses. And I don't rub it in also.
Ofc, if I am in the wrong, I will be the one to apologize, but words come easier to me compared to water signs so I spare them the torture to talk things through lol.
Oh, all of that has already played out in my head and it's a huge possibility....thus my amusement while also being enormously vexed. I just haven't found a good way to yank that rug out from under him if that really is part of the whole mess because he already knows he's got me twitchy with angst and all. The man can feel me and vice versa. I'm picking up him being pissed but in a dark and brooding way and also amused, where earlier it was a complete wall of nothing. Fine, if he wants the pissed off and stubborn side of me he's going to get it. Oo la la....the turn on factor. :p
Posted by Damnata
I want to ask something else..I read through all the topic to see if anyone addressed this.You said you had sex with a Scorpio friend at some point, is this the guy you're talking about? Because then I get where you're going with the "we're connected" comment you made.
If so, then maybe..just maaaybe..this isn't about his back or facebook but about a whole another issue at play.
If I am wrong, apologies.
It is and yes we have.
Posted by Damnata
I have 3 close Scorpio gfs. Had a massive fallout with one of them because of her misunderstanding smthg I said.I KNEW there was no way she'd see things my way while she was in a rage so I let her calm down. 3 days later we met up and I saw her open her mouth to say she was sorry. I stopped her right there and we got into a funny discussion about anything else under the sun.
She breathed a sigh of relief.
Not saying this would work here but I thought I would share because that's the way I deal with water people. I do everything within my power not to be inquisitive and fly off the handle and let them come to their senses. And I don't rub it in also.
Ofc, if I am in the wrong, I will be the one to apologize, but words come easier to me compared to water signs so I spare them the torture to talk things through lol.
While it's incredibly sweet and endearing that you do that for the water folks, I have to say that you do us a slight disservice, too. We NEED to push ourselves out of the comfort zone at times. We NEED to face things we find uncomfortable or against our natures. If we never face it and have that AHHA moment that it didn't kill us and nothing horrible happened then we'll never grow.
Then you need to realize that if it was any other friend, you wouldn't have reacted like that.
Get to the bottom of that and you will see clarity.
To sum it up, you are holding him at a HIGHER standard than any other male friend and it's not okay.
Honesty has the capacity to get you almost anywhere.
The sex was sorta obvious. Sorry, MoonArtist.
Posted by Damnata
To sum it up, you are holding him at a HIGHER standard than any other male friend and it's not okay.This is passive aggressive reasoning though. Might as well deal with the heart of the matter for what it is really.
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This is exactly what's going on here. I am 100% sure of it.
"passive-aggressive" is a synonym for "cancer" and for "cancer placements" Tiz.
Posted by Damnata
To sum it up, you are holding him at a HIGHER standard than any other male friend and it's not okay.
Hmm....good point.
was the "gets him hot" stuff that sealed it
Posted by Damnata
To sum it up, you are holding him at a HIGHER standard than any other male friend and it's not okay.This is passive aggressive reasoning though. Might as well deal with the heart of the matter for what it is really.
This is exactly what's going on here. I am 100% sure of it.
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Ha! Make that all water signs. On the flip side, I've seen Taurus and Virgo do it in spades, too. And Gemini. And Sags....
Yup on Virgos also.
I have Venus in Cancer so I need to bring the moon and mars not to be passive aggressive with people.
My mother's chart was full water on a Leo sun. She should've been called "Drama"
Posted by kim30
was the "gets him hot" stuff that sealed it
lol Yeah, that would do it.
Posted by Damnata
Yup on Virgos also.I have Venus in Cancer so I need to bring the moon and mars not to be passive aggressive with people.
My mother's chart was full water on a Leo sun. She should've been called "Drama"
I've found Aries to be the most drama of the dramatic drama queens. When they're good, they're delightful. When they're bad, they're manipulative drama queens to rival anything.
Posted by Damnata
To sum it up, you are holding him at a HIGHER standard than any other male friend and it's not okay.This is passive aggressive reasoning though. Might as well deal with the heart of the matter for what it is really.
This is exactly what's going on here. I am 100% sure of it.
I meant your logic here would be a passive aggressive way to go about it. You Virgo you.
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I can't hear you over how right my Venus in Cancer tactics are, Tiz.
I know from experience.
Posted by Damnata
Yup on Virgos also.I have Venus in Cancer so I need to bring the moon and mars not to be passive aggressive with people.
My mother's chart was full water on a Leo sun. She should've been called "Drama"
I've found Aries to be the most drama of the dramatic drama queens. When they're good, they're delightful. When they're bad, they're manipulative drama queens to rival anything.
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All the Aries I know are incredibly low key and I know a lot of them. All born in March though.
The late march Aries I know are the amped up ones. They're over the top. The low key ones I know are cusped with Taurus. I'm not sure if I know any that cusp with Pisces.....
My ex was on the Pisces-Aries cusp, 21st of March. He thought he was a Pisces til he run into me and I set him straight.
This is not the way I deal with things at all Tiz.
A water sign would skip on verbalizing the "I'm upset" and will go into attack mode.
So year, in your scenario Virgo is more direct because we do come out and verbalize shit. If we don't, we never gave a damn. While water always gives a damn, if they resort to attacks.
But in general..
It should be like a wedding
"Speak up now or forever hold your peace"
hold your peace = let it go/ don't brood/ don't slip poison in their food/ don't fuck their wives/ don't..
Posted by tiziani
Virgo way of dealing with being upset.... "I'm upset with how this turned out. let me analyze. I see, I messed up. I'm not treating everyone to a decent standard. I've expected more of others than I have of myself. It doesn't matter that I'm upset. What matters is that I've failed. Let me get out the bamboo stick and 50 lashings asap. And I'll continue on being upset... but no one will ever know. They'll just know my suffering."Water Sign.... "I'm upset. ATTACK. ATTACK. ATTACK."
You tell me which one is more direct.
rofl.....Yep, that sums it up.
You forgot something with the Virgo, though...."I've failed, but you won't know it, but you'll see my suffering." ~comes back later~ "This is how I would have done it different and you've ruined your life because you didn't do it my way! I'm sorry. I didn't mean that, you misunderstood me. I care about you. I've failed, but you won't know it, but you'll see my suffering...." ~comes back later~"This is how I would have done it different and you've ruined your life because you didn't do it my way! I'm sorry. I didn't mean that, you misunderstood me. I care about you. I've failed, but you won't know it, but you'll see my suffering...." ~comes back later~"This is how I would have done it different and you've ruined your life because you didn't do it my way! I'm sorry. I didn't mean that, you misunderstood me. I care about you. I've failed, but you won't know it, but you'll see my suffering...." ~comes back later~
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
all of that is fine and dandy.........but I'm still hung up on the fact the tarot cards told her that he was lying.
Posted by Damnata
This is not the way I deal with things at all Tiz.A water sign would skip on verbalizing the "I'm upset" and will go into attack mode.
So year, in your scenario Virgo is more direct because we do come out and verbalize shit. If we don't, we never gave a damn. While water always gives a damn, if they resort to attacks.
I think Virgos are more direct before the point of getting upset. But when upset it's a different ball game.
I'm aware you have an Aries Moon though.
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I know Virgos when they are upset. My Dad cared enough to fling insults at me.
Again, you people don't know Virgos who cared enough to clear the waters. We go above and beyond in that.
I won't disagree on taking space to process shit though. We do that but it benefits the partnership because we don't want the conflict to escalate. People see it as us not being genuine while we actually try to do damage control and fix things up.
Oh well..we are right regardless.
That post of yours was seriously skewed though. So unlibraish of you.
So between someone who will take time to process shit and get back to a neutral standpoint so we can discuss issues..
...and someone who flies off the handle and gets caught up in their ego..
I'm going for the first person each and every time.
Which is funny, since I dated Aries Men lol.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
all of that is fine and dandy.........but I'm still hung up on the fact the tarot cards told her that he was lying.
when you're desperate and want answers now, you'll believe in anything for "reassurance". it helps soothe the emotions, although it really doesn't in truth.
Twirling, are you caught up on the tarot cards because your Venus in Libra didn't see enough nice shit today and you're seeing the cards in your mind? With the pretty pictures on them?
'fess up.
Fair enough, Tiz.
Wrong, but fair enough. 😄
ahaha, didn't know about the Neptune in the 1st.
....but I'm still hung up on the fact the tarot cards told her that he was lying.
Speaking of fail....I find it very amusing that the tarot card issue you have over something so trivial and being so dramatic here, yet when I told FixedWater instead of using a tarot card reading to help her abused daughter to get real help..YOU started a block war. lol..
Posted by blisss
Don't play his game Moonartist! Just do your own thing until he cools off and comes back around. Then let him know how much he hurt your feelings and how you didn't appreciate being lied to. Don't play games with him though, it will only make things worse Moonie!
I know the logic and rightness of that option. I still feel like kicking him in the shins a few times for good measure. Thus ranting on here: burn it out, vent, mull the different views over and then hopefully come back down off the raging volcano without doing any damage. Can we get some sacrificial virgins up here, STAT?!
Pretending to be bored, uninterested and superior to this thread....FAIL
Pretending you have the brains to outsmart a Scorp...persistent fail, total fail, and epic fail.
Tarot cards do not predict FACT..that was the start of the thread fail.
Carry on...😉
DAYUM! what kind of meat does he have between his legs that has you all up in arms.
mmmhmmmm
Posted by aurora
lol of course he lied to you. do you see your reaction? he probably figured that he actually needs more time to process what happened and he knew that you won't understand. calm down a leave him alone for awhile.
My reaction wouldn't be this way if he had just been open and honest in the first place. "Hey, I'm pissed. Leave me alone." I GET that and understand it. Besides, he doesn't know I'm ranting as I haven't directed it at him, yet. As for calming down and leaving him alone for awhile....I'm trying. I'm starting to simmer down. It's a slow process.
Pretending to be bored, uninterested and superior to this thread....FAIL
Pretending you have the brains to outsmart a Scorp...persistent fail, total fail, and epic fail.
Tarot cards do not predict FACT..that was the start of the thread fail.
Carry on...😉
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blah blah blah pointless words meant to stir the pot blah blah blah
Why are you assuming he's not telling the truth about his back? Other than the cards and the telepathic connection.
Is there any way for you to find out about that thing first, before you're sure he's running game on you?
Posted by DMV
DAYUM! what kind of meat does he have between his legs that has you all up in arms.mmmhmmmm
Well, lets just say, yum! And he should be proud of it.
Posted by Damnata
Why are you assuming he's not telling the truth about his back? Other than the cards and the telepathic connection.Is there any way for you to find out about that thing first, before you're sure he's running game on you?
I've been reading cards since 1996...and when I hear someone say crap like this OP, it helps me understand why the scammers who charge for any type of readings & get away with it. smh
Posted by Damnata
Why are you assuming he's not telling the truth about his back? Other than the cards and the telepathic connection.Is there any way for you to find out about that thing first, before you're sure he's running game on you?
That and the fact that he's admitted he sometimes doesn't tell the truth. No way to figure it out until he contacts me and we actually discuss it, though.
Bunnyman, you're still supposed to be trapped in the bunny sack after being clubbed like a baby seal. I'm throwing some rats in to help with the itchy balls.
Posted by Rabbit
My balls itch.Liar.
Sorry...I thought we were still discussing stupid shit.
My bad.
Yeah. I am not sure how so much Virgo got injected into this discussion. But it was interesting none the less.
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It's because I was right and people take issue with Virgos being right.
/jk
Posted by Damnata
Why are you assuming he's not telling the truth about his back? Other than the cards and the telepathic connection.Is there any way for you to find out about that thing first, before you're sure he's running game on you?
That and the fact that he's admitted he sometimes doesn't tell the truth. No way to figure it out until he contacts me and we actually discuss it, though.
I'm interested in what context this guy admitted to lying. Was this in casual conversation or what? I find that fascinating.
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A couple of times it was in casual conversation, almost a laughing about it, but sort of embarrassed to admit it thing. On other occasions it was in a deep discussion about both of us. He has a habit of blowing off anything serious if I ask him if he's ok when I can feel that it's not ok, that he's stewing on something or he's upset. He will usually get a little gruff and do the "I'm fine, stop asking" routine and I'll leave it alone. A few days later he'll finally let it out about what was bothering him. Well, Friday when we hashed things out he let it out that he has had some very serious stressful stuff going on with work and life that could really fuck things up for him and his reason for lying to me about it all (for the last 6 months) is that he didn't want to burden me with his problems, he wants me to be the happy butterfly person that I usually am. I told him I understood not wanting to burden me but that I could take it and life isn't always butterfly happiness. He didn't like that answer too well and I put it back on him with, "how would you feel if I kept my problems and shit from you for 6 months because I didn't want to stress you out about my problems?" He later admitted I was right about everything. His exact words were, "Rachel, why are you always so right all the time? Stop being right." He sounded sheepish. My response, "I'm sorry, but I can't help it and I don't mean to be, but I can't stop the knowing and intuition. I'll try to be wrong more often."
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+1 good giving it straight.