
Damnata
@Damnata
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Posted by CocoKat
you cant expect a guy to respond to you maturely by "taking the reigns" (like a man) once this whole teasing, baiting games begins.

Posted by GetMistedPosted by CocoKat
that's playing.. not being direct using a strategy to "get her attention and get her close" he could've just talked to her.
Look.. With everyday people, whom I'm not close with.. I only give them so much. They don't get everything. Getting all of me puts me in a vulnerable position. No room to negotiate. In my eyes.. a potential mate is everyday people. She means nothing to me yet. She doesn't get everything. He gets bits and pieces until she bites. Only then am I upfront and honest with my intentions.
You call it "playing".
I call it due diligence.
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Posted by DamnataPosted by CocoKat
I don't get WHY its always expected the woman takes "a course of action" everytime she is played, ignored, teased, baited etc... it puts her in a terrible position of being further played, teased, ignored, baited etc. to no end and he gets rewarded for it?
It brings clarity. And it isn't expected. But since she is overthinking this so much, it would clear the air FOR HER. It would make her MOVE ON if she asks upfront what's up with him. There is an end in sight there. I mean maybe she really doesn't want to date him afterwards so he gains...what exactly? How is he rewarded? She has to look for herself and she can do this by asking straight up or just calling it a day. Funny how playing is always brought up with men. She wasn't playing his reaction at all when she ignored him right? Because if she truly didn't give a fuck, she wouldn't be on here figuring him out.
Posted by CocoKat
In my life Once a man is truly into you they step up to the plate to speak respectfully, ask questions, ask you out, smile etc. Ive seen this happen after the teasing if the female doesn't ruin it by chasing him, otherwise you run the risk of looking ridiculous and being humiliated especially at work.
I agree about once a man is truly into you. But I'm saying there are different ways for a human to gauge if you're into them and not all of them are goddamn pua tactics. Been in that community and they are still in the minority on this. The smartest men there would pull the wool over your eyes in a way where she wouldn't have made this topic because she'd be too busy sexing him up.
All I'm saying is just allow for humanity in humans. Not everything is a game.click to expand
Posted by DamnataPosted by CocoKat
you cant expect a guy to respond to you maturely by "taking the reigns" (like a man) once this whole teasing, baiting games begins.
I've seen it work out for assertive women.
I'm pretty middle ground. I gauge by reciprocity.
For me personally, the part where I'm just waiting there and not initiating anything has never worked out. I'm not the chasing type but I'm not passive either.
One size does not fit all.click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by GetMistedPosted by CocoKat
that's playing.. not being direct using a strategy to "get her attention and get her close" he could've just talked to her.
Look.. With everyday people, whom I'm not close with.. I only give them so much. They don't get everything. Getting all of me puts me in a vulnerable position. No room to negotiate. In my eyes.. a potential mate is everyday people. She means nothing to me yet. She doesn't get everything. He gets bits and pieces until she bites. Only then am I upfront and honest with my intentions.
You call it "playing".
I call it due diligence.
😆. Un huh..... Same sh*t different smell.
To clarify, I don't mean "playing" as in intention to use someone or that your aim is simply to get sex. However, it is a game of sorts. When a person takes this approach he or she is being strategic to get the upper hand so they are not putting themselves "out there" first. Show me your cards first aka "playing a game".click to expand


Posted by CocoKatPosted by DamnataPosted by CocoKat
you cant expect a guy to respond to you maturely by "taking the reigns" (like a man) once this whole teasing, baiting games begins.
I've seen it work out for assertive women.
I'm pretty middle ground. I gauge by reciprocity.
For me personally, the part where I'm just waiting there and not initiating anything has never worked out. I'm not the chasing type but I'm not passive either.
One size does not fit all.
Sooo, taking the middle ground with someone teasing you, playing with you and being rude.
Has that ever worked out for you?click to expand
Posted by Damnata
^Um, you missed the point about sexing him up. If he was that good of a player this topic wouldn't exist because she'd be in his bed atm.
"this certainly is". Eh, gotta love us Virgos and our certainties.
Basically what I am saying is this dude is either an average player or some normal confused guy. Especially since this chick keeps ignoring him.
He can be into her or hate her guts for all I know/care. The point is everyone has a responsability for peace of mind for themselves. And the way for her to do that would be either:
1) Ask him
2) Call it a day.
It shouldn't even be about him at this point in her mind. It should be "Well I want to move past this overthinking ...how to do that? Umm, asking him doesn't sound good. Ok, I will let this thing drop then". Without making a judgment on this dude, just deciding for herself not to indulge further.

Posted by GetMistedPosted by Chowfun92
then walks away. WTF is that supposed to mean? He said it softly and quietly. I didn't have the balls to ask him about it. I need some balls.
Bait.
I use it with women I work with. A pick up line of sorts.. but a lingering one. You meet them at work. Have casual conversation in passing. At the end of one of those conversations, you cast the bait. Reel it in one smile at a time until she's hooked.
Hope that helps.click to expand

Posted by CocoKatPosted by Damnata
^Um, you missed the point about sexing him up. If he was that good of a player this topic wouldn't exist because she'd be in his bed atm.
"this certainly is". Eh, gotta love us Virgos and our certainties.
Basically what I am saying is this dude is either an average player or some normal confused guy. Especially since this chick keeps ignoring him.
He can be into her or hate her guts for all I know/care. The point is everyone has a responsability for peace of mind for themselves. And the way for her to do that would be either:
1) Ask him
2) Call it a day.
It shouldn't even be about him at this point in her mind. It should be "Well I want to move past this overthinking ...how to do that? Umm, asking him doesn't sound good. Ok, I will let this thing drop then". Without making a judgment on this dude, just deciding for herself not to indulge further.
Yes, Got it. Im not sure I agree with it, but you've got a respectable point here. The issue I have is with his lack of integrity, I don't think he will be truthful if she does ask him, its like expecting a child to act grown up after a day of teasing fun and games.click to expand
Posted by Chowfun92
No, I'm not sexting him up or anything of that nature. I wouldn't care about reputation, as this is a seasonal position. It will be over soon. I would like to go out with a bang. If I step up, I'll truly see if he likes me or not. It's a win win for me because I get clarity out of the situation. I may not like the outcome, but the situation was real.
Also, this guy is young. 22 and under. I don't expect him to be mature about too much, so I can see if his approach is this way. If I saw this happening to someone else, I would have spotted it right away! However, it is happening to me and I am blindsided. Also, I'm not used to half assed attention or guys who get close then pull away.
Lastly, could the fact that a lot of men are approaching me factor in to his approach? I figured since I am approached at the job by 95% of the males there that he tries a different approach to reel me in. He falls back while the other guys come my way. I notice him this way. I see he is acting different. All the guys love me and he acts rude for my attention.
In my limited experience, guys that like you the most fall back a bit. Men do NOT like rejection. He could also be intimidated by me, because so many men approach me. He may figure what shot does he have. So he baits me. He ignores me, he shuts me out like he doesn't like me, he waits for how I react to gauge if I really care and it goes on and on.
A classic example is that he will ignore me and not interact with me 98% of the time while we are alone. To him, I do not exist, so it seems. However, when I'm speaking to other guys he 85% of the time pops up out of nowhere to see what I am talking about and he will partake in the convo. If he doesn't partake in the convo he most likely will stare in my direction or at me. He also texts a lot, so I'm assuming he has someone he is interested in or is dating, but still has an attraction to me, which I don't mind, because we are young and we aren't married lmao.
I see him today and put the ball in his court. I don't know what'll say, but I am usually clever and snarky. I should be able to come up with something.

Posted by Damnata
@Scorpio chick..
^Take everything I said with a grain of salt because I'm not a Scorpio.

Posted by PhoenixRising
She latched on to the post that told her she was being played. Why? She said it very clearly in the other thread: "I don't think I am good enough". So, as soon as she heard that maybe he didn't really like her and his feelings may not be genuine, boom she ran with it. So this is really about her sorting out her sh*t. This thread*(and the other one) wasn't just about this guy. It never was. When she figures that out, she figures that out. Until then...
Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Damnata
@Scorpio chick..
^Take everything I said with a grain of salt because I'm not a Scorpio.
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Yeah, seriously....don't do that. It's annoying. So what, every time you post something on the Scorp board you're going to put a disclaimer that you're not a Scorp because a few male Scorps are pissy? Give me break Virgo. I saw the bellyaching on Rabbit's thread. Whatever. Sound advice is sound advice regardless of the source.
Let's be real. When someone post on the boards they already know what it is they are seeking: validation or help. Whether they care to acknowledge it or not. You see it immediately within a few posts. If someone is going to wade through pages of advice, but latch on to the one thing that validates what she/he wanted to hear...guess what? They were going to do that anyway. If she/he continues to make mistake after mistake because they haven't clued into the fact that validation is not what they need, then that is their life lesson to figure out, no? Let the person figure it out. What are you getting pissy about? 😆 like seriously? Give your advice, the person takes it or doesn't. Keep it moving. Okay the spammers are annoying, but last time I checked, Scorps were great at ignoring people. Utilize that skill.
FWIW, from what I observed, Scorp males don't generally give advice. You all drop some info about the male psyche (e.g." when I'm not interested, I usually don't"...."if I like someone I often will...") and bounce. It happened here and the girl was lost. Most times the OP is looking for a step by step guide on what to do. I noticed the Scorp females, usually tell people what to do. They are usually saying the same sh*t, just differently, so I am not sure why there is any competition. Just sayin'.
Chow had both Scorp males and females telling her point blank what is going on and what to do. Guess what? She latched on to the post that told her she was being played. Why? She said it very clearly in the other thread: "I don't think I am good enough". So, as soon as she heard that maybe he didn't really like her and his feelings may not be genuine, boom she ran with it. So this is really about her sorting out her sh*t. This thread*(and the other one) wasn't just
Posted by Reincarnation
I cannot believe that such a stupid line from some drunk Scorp at a bar inspired a 7-page thread.
Kill me now.
Posted by RabbitPosted by Reincarnation
I cannot believe that such a stupid line from some drunk Scorp at a bar inspired a 7-page thread.
Kill me now.
Exactly.
/threadclick to expand
Posted by e11e
do you know your chart?
would you care to share? 😛


Posted by Reincarnation
I cannot believe that such a stupid line from some drunk Scorp at a bar inspired a 7-page thread.
Kill me now.
Posted by e11e
what is your date of birth and where you were born (city, state, country)? birth time too...if you have it. if not, no big deal.
Posted by e11e
sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars
that should tell us enough 😄

Posted by Chowfun92
Your right, because its easier for me to understand that he doesn't like me because, if he didn't he wouldn't be beating around the bush. My instincts tell me he likes me. I originally sought guidance on how to handle a guy who wasn't forth coming with his affections. Many responses said scorpio males are upfront with their attraction, so then I became confused, if he likes me like I feel he does, then why hasn't he done just what scorpio males apparently are supposed to do? So I began to second guess what I felt. Then I start back tracking and overanalyzing, because this guy apparently isn't fitting the mold.
Anyway, call it female intuition, gas or our scorpio to scorpio aura, but whenever I am around him I feel an attraction or a strong energy between us. Its like thick and heavy block and feels like excitement, confusion and mystery. It could be totally onesided, but I don't believe that because when its one sided in my experience it feels different.
I'll confront him on it because if anything I need to know.

Posted by e11e
Just tread carefully when pursuing another Scorpio.
NOT because they are not good....don't take this wrong.
ONLY because, if you don't know yourself well enough, you will end up mirroring each other and you'll never ever get to the 'good stuff'.
In a scorpio/scorpio relationship, SOMEONE has to let go of the control because we are control freaks....not necessarily control freaks over each other....but SELF control freaks....nobody wants to let down the walls FIRST.

Posted by e11e
Being your moon is oppposite your mars....you go back and forth like a teeter totter...."I'm SOOO going to do this! I'm not fucking doing this, there is no point!".
Posted by GetMistedPosted by RabbitPosted by Reincarnation
I cannot believe that such a stupid line from some drunk Scorp at a bar inspired a 7-page thread.
Kill me now.
Exactly.
/thread
Not exactly. Wasn't at a bar. It was at work. Big difference.. And the reason I said it might not be a game.click to expand
Posted by e11e
the thing, chow....is most scorps live in a black and white world and try to avoid the grey as much as possible.
as you get older....you'll realise the grey isn't so scary 🙂
with that said....I know you are terrified with rejection but being rejected also allows you the ability to grow and learn how to cope with it....and we all need to learn how to cope with it because that is just how life is.
there is a 50/50 chance of rejection, which means there is a 50/50 chance of success. can't get anymore black and white than that 😛
so, you simply have to go for it and take whatever comes your way and grow from it.
Posted by RabbitPosted by GetMistedPosted by RabbitPosted by Reincarnation
I cannot believe that such a stupid line from some drunk Scorp at a bar inspired a 7-page thread.
Kill me now.
Exactly.
/thread
Not exactly. Wasn't at a bar. It was at work. Big difference.. And the reason I said it might not be a game.
Thought it was at a bar.
In any case...
I think OP is simply having this relationship (or whatever it is) solely in her own mind.click to expand
Posted by GetMisted
@PR..
I got pissy because a warning was issued to the LADIES that lumped all men, and their actions into one category.
Damnata said it best.. The beginning of anything starts with a bit of game playing. It creates the mystery and intrigue.
This is simply not true. I fell HEAD OVER HEALS in LOVE with my partner, he was direct and a gentleman from the very beginning. Most of my friends partnered and married had a wonderful courtship without games.
Posted by e11e
you don't have to move so quickly to...."I LIKEEEEEEEE YOU!!!!!!!! *scribbly hearts and arrows*"
it's okay to slow your roll. neither of you know anything about each other besides the fact you are both elusive as all hell.
perhaps ask him if he'd like to get a bite to eat after your shift ends....or a coffee (I wouldn't recommend a bar 😛)....and it's *okay* if you don't know what to say or how to say it while you are sitting across from him figuring out how to eat your burger without looking like a complete dunce (or is that just venus in libra? 😛)....those 'natural' moments are what build foundations.
just make small talk.....because odds are, he's just as unsure as you are.
Posted by GetMisted
@OP.. ffs stop over thinking and trying to script your conversations. You're going to drive yourself crazy and come off ungenuine.
@elle.. Wtf is your strawberry?!
Also.. Aqua mars likes the grey area 😉
Posted by CocoKat
and Im married to a scorpio, very evolved man.
Posted by GetMistedPosted by CocoKat
and Im married to a scorpio, very evolved man.
That's wonderful..
Not all of us are the same.click to expand
Posted by Chowfun92Posted by e11e
you don't have to move so quickly to...."I LIKEEEEEEEE YOU!!!!!!!! *scribbly hearts and arrows*"
it's okay to slow your roll. neither of you know anything about each other besides the fact you are both elusive as all hell.
perhaps ask him if he'd like to get a bite to eat after your shift ends....or a coffee (I wouldn't recommend a bar 😛)....and it's *okay* if you don't know what to say or how to say it while you are sitting across from him figuring out how to eat your burger without looking like a complete dunce (or is that just venus in libra? 😛)....those 'natural' moments are what build foundations.
just make small talk.....because odds are, he's just as unsure as you are.click to expand
will do!
Posted by CocoKat
12 years ago, I was in my late 20s, he was late 40s.
its really not an age thing because all the women (of all ages) in my family only date men who persue them and treat them very well, gentlemen, we don't put up with nonsense. It may sound harsh to some but there is no divorce in my family... at all.
Posted by CocoKatPosted by Chowfun92Posted by e11e
you don't have to move so quickly to...."I LIKEEEEEEEE YOU!!!!!!!! *scribbly hearts and arrows*"
it's okay to slow your roll. neither of you know anything about each other besides the fact you are both elusive as all hell.
perhaps ask him if he'd like to get a bite to eat after your shift ends....or a coffee (I wouldn't recommend a bar 😛)....and it's *okay* if you don't know what to say or how to say it while you are sitting across from him figuring out how to eat your burger without looking like a complete dunce (or is that just venus in libra? 😛)....those 'natural' moments are what build foundations.
just make small talk.....because odds are, he's just as unsure as you are.click to expand
will do!
Posted by Chowfun92Posted by CocoKat
12 years ago, I was in my late 20s, he was late 40s.
its really not an age thing because all the women (of all ages) in my family only date men who persue them and treat them very well, gentlemen, we don't put up with nonsense. It may sound harsh to some but there is no divorce in my family... at all.
Well it was probably an age thing because the man you married was mature and had almost twice the life experience as you to understand how to handle himself, have confidence and show his emotions.
Most men my age, regardless of their background, have this perception that women their age want to be approached a certain way (usually by saying your so pretty/what they want to do to you/bad b****/comments on your body/etc) or when they are intimidated or not sure they approach differently.
Men who were older and only men who were older, in my experience, approached me with respect and like an equal. The young guys thought their approach was fine and even normal.click to expand
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It brings clarity. And it isn't expected. But since she is overthinking this so much, it would clear the air FOR HER. It would make her MOVE ON if she asks upfront what's up with him. There is an end in sight there. I mean maybe she really doesn't want to date him afterwards so he gains...what exactly? How is he rewarded? She has to look for herself and she can do this by asking straight up or just calling it a day. Funny how playing is always brought up with men. She wasn't playing his reaction at all when she ignored him right? Because if she truly didn't give a fuck, she wouldn't be on here figuring him out.
I agree about once a man is truly into you. But I'm saying there are different ways for a human to gauge if you're into them and not all of them are goddamn pua tactics. Been in that community and they are still in the minority on this. The smartest men there would pull the wool over your eyes in a way where she wouldn't have made this topic because she'd be too busy sexing him up.
All I'm saying is just allow for humanity in humans. Not everything is a game.