scorpio sun/scorpio in pluto and venus.

scorpio_wreckAugust 13, 2006 12:27am
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  • scorpio_wreck
    scorpio sun. leo moon. gemini rising. mercury: scorpio
    31 years old male from crabby''s pants ;D
    hey guys - i have a question about my chart. i'm a sun in scorpio with scorpio also in mercury, venus and pluto. i've read some of the info. on this board about scorpio in venus, but what about pluto? thanks a lot =)
  • Tiamat
    "Sun in Scorpio (The Sun is in Scorpio from approximately October 23 to Novemb
    38 years old female
    Pluto, God of the Underworld, is the ruler of Scorpio. (In Greek mythology, the corresponding god was Hades). In Astrology, the energies of Pluto are transforming. Pluto represents subconscious forces, ruling all that is "below the surface".

    On the up side, Pluto is associated with renewal and rebirth. It represents endings and new beginnings, as well as spiritual growth and rebirth. Negative expression of Pluto is an obsessive desire for power and control and general destructiveness.

    In the chart, the position of Pluto by sign will be shared with other people in the same generation due to the comparatively slow movement of Pluto, the outermost planet, in the heavens. By house, the position of Pluto shows where individuals search for truths and deeper meaning. This area of life may be associated with change, upheaval, power struggles, and issues of control. Pluto in aspect to other planets in the chart colors those energies with obsessive qualities, power struggles, the need to find deeper meanings, and willingness to explore and examine. Where we find Pluto in the chart is where we either seek change and transformation, or have it thrust upon us if we refuse to accept our deepest needs. If we fear Pluto's energies, or our "dark" side, destructiveness (both directed at ourselves or others) is a byproduct.

  • Tiamat
    "Sun in Scorpio (The Sun is in Scorpio from approximately October 23 to Novemb
    38 years old female
    The Pluto in Scorpio generation, born approximately 1984-1996, is developing its own generational personality. It is a generation whose older members?teenagers and very early twenty-somethings?are the subjects of much stereotyping: ?They?re so profane?every other word has just four letters?and what?s up with all the black clothing?the ?hoodies??the dark sunglasses?the car window tinting?the scowling countenances??



    Today?s Pluto in Scorpio generation can be quite off-putting to many older adults. Every generation has its ways of rebelling. The challenging Pluto in Scorpio square to Pluto in Leo (those who were born approximately 1939-1958) means that Baby Boomers?a huge swath of the population?find this generation especially troublesome and difficult.



    Raised on R-rated movie dialogue and rap lyrics, the Pluto in Scorpio generation sometimes come across as excessively profane. Most have been exposed their whole lives to a media culture which promotes sex, violence, and celebrity. They are helping to re-invigorate poker gambling and other addictive pursuits. Of course, this is not the whole story. This generation also has--among many other positive qualities--an intense and selfless need to share, perhaps related to Scorpio?s association with the 8th house of shared resources.



    The Pluto in Scorpio generation is hooked into the 8th house (a Scorpio house) ideal of shared resources, just as the Pluto in Leo generation embodies the positive 5th house ideals of individuality and creativity. The resources the Pluto in Scorpio generation are beginning to share are their own self-created networks, often connected through digital technology.



    Digital networks and online groups like MySpace are a Uranus-Neptune trend. Their use by the Pluto in Scorpio generation aligns with that generation?s emphasis on shared resources. The digital world allows for a shared information resource, in the form of e-pinions, e-mails, text messaging, instant messaging, etc. Today, new music bands and trends are launched via these Pluto in Scorpio digital networks.



    A recent New York Times article probes this part of the Pluto in Scorpio generation, whom the reporter refers to as the millennials (a term coined by Neil Strauss and William Howe in their 2000 book, Millennials Rising). In the article, one high-tech company executive stated, "With the technology, the Internet - in terms of being able to facilitate the social netwo
  • Tiamat
    "Sun in Scorpio (The Sun is in Scorpio from approximately October 23 to Novemb
    38 years old female
    social networking, which is a big part of this younger group - there's just so much ability to quickly transfer information." A problem with the almost obsessive need to share via instant messaging, text messaging, cell phones, and blogs is that personal identity can become lost. As one young person commented in the article, ?It's like, if you don't check your e-mail and you turn off your phone, it's almost like you don't exist." If you go to a movie at the local multiplex, note the number of teenagers engaged in silent text messaging on their cell phones during the movie. The subject of the text messaging is often the movie they are watching? how it?s going, how they like it, etc. Although many adults may find this activity to be a public annoyance, Pluto in Scorpio kids are always connected, always sharing.



    Projecting ahead, one can envision other shared resources which may figure prominently as the Pluto in Scorpio generation gets older and assumes positions of leadership: economic resources, ecological resources, etc. Since Pluto and Scorpio are both attuned to crises, we can expect that these shared resources will become important as the result of a future generational crisis or series of crises.



    I recently read David McCullough?s new book, 1776. Although in 1776, Pluto was in the late degrees of Capricorn, some of the soldiers who fought, led, and died for both sides in the Revolutionary War had Pluto in Scorpio. In 1776, anyone between the ages of about 28 and 40 would have belonged to a Pluto in Scorpio generation. General Nathaniel Greene and Thomas Paine, both with Pluto in Scorpio, feature heroically in McCullough?s book. The third U.S. President and primary author of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, was also a member of the Pluto in Scorpio generation.



    We?ve come almost full circle now and the oldest of today?s Pluto in Scorpio generation, those born starting in November, 1983, are 22 years old. Some are already old enough to be in Iraq or Afghanistan.



    They bear more than a passing resemblance to the scruffy and ragtag 1776 militia that was chased out of Boston and New York by the British?a militia which eventually coalesced into the smart, tough, and incredibly resourceful army that went on to defeat the British and win American independence. Of course, the British also had their good Pluto in Scorpio soldiers. One difference? A tall, regal Pluto in Libra, Sun in Pisces commander named G
  • Tiamat
    "Sun in Scorpio (The Sun is in Scorpio from approximately October 23 to Novemb
    38 years old female
    George Washington whose greatest teacher was, according to McCullough, not military history but rather his own experience.
  • purrrfect
    Ascendant: Virgo Sun: Leo (11th house)
    female
    Wow Tia...I have pluto in the first house. I thought this was interesting.
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