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Posted by Chowfun92
No, just because we had a nice day didn't mean he left being an ass or goofball stage....




Okay Chow. I understand some things better now. Here's the thing though (because my Moon is over this bellyaching):
OP:*Open thread* Dude is so sensitive. I did this, he did that... What went wrong? Why did he act like this?
Board: Answers why. Give feedback on what to do next.
OP: But that's not fair! It's a double standard. Why are y'all coming at me sideways?
Board: 😕? We've answered why (which is what you asked) and told you what to do.
OP: You're not hearing me. It's not fair. I am getting blamed for this and I just gave him what he dished out.
Board: 😕? Understood. However, *further explanation to help you understand, NOT to blame you* Now what?!!!
OP: No. *further explanation still NOT moving forward*...You are all focused on me and missed when I said xyz about him....*a fairly simple thread expands to another legendary novel*

Okay, so this is as far as I go with this. I understand where you're coming from, that was never the issue. I also don't think it was for a lot of other people either. Scorps simply don't deliver advice with a lot of validation, "poor yous" and "let's torch the f*cker". Look to some of the other signs for that. The advice over here is deliverd bluntly and to the point. It sometimes come off harsh, can be read as blame, but it's more about "this is what happened, this is how it got messed up, this is how you fix it".

I already told you once, I'm a problem solver. I like to move forward once you've got all that grief and confusion out in the open. You recieved your "why" and was told what to do (which addressed the OP) pages ago. This feels hard and you really like this guy, I know. Now what?

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Posted by Chowfun92
No, just because we had a nice day didn't mean he left being an ass or goofball stage....




Okay Chow. I understand some things better now. Here's the thing though (because my Moon is over this bellyaching):
OP:*Open thread* Dude is so sensitive. I did this, he did that... What went wrong? Why did he act like this?
Board: Answers why. Give feedback on what to do next.
OP: But that's not fair! It's a double standard. Why are y'all coming at me sideways?
Board: 😕? We've answered why (which is what you asked) and told you what to do.
OP: You're not hearing me. It's not fair. I am getting blamed for this and I just gave him what he dished out.
Board: 😕? Understood. However, *further explanation to help you understand, NOT to blame you* Now what?!!!
OP: No. *further explanation still NOT moving forward*...You are all focused on me and missed when I said xyz about him....*a fairly simple thread expands to another legendary novel*

Okay, so this is as far as I go with this. I understand where you're coming from, that was never the issue. I also don't think it was for a lot of other people either. Scorps simply don't deliver advice with a lot of validation, "poor yous" and "let's torch the f*cker". Look to some of the other signs for that. The advice over here is deliverd bluntly and to the point. It sometimes come off harsh, can be read as blame, but it's more about "this is what happened, this is how it got messed up, this is how you fix it".

I already told you once, I'm a problem solver. I like to move forward once you've got all that grief and confusion out in the open. You recieved your "why" and was told what to do (which addressed the OP) pages ago. This feels hard and you really like this guy, I know. Now what?

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Lmao PR that is not how the thread went and you know it.

It went my OP then a mantra of Why did Chow do what she did and then I went on a binge trying to explain myself. Through all that muddle of back and forth of YALL not understanding me and me not understanding what I did that was so offensive advice was given. I felt the advice for the most part was jaded even Frost&Bite admitted she didn't think what I did was bad like others made it
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Lmao PR that is not how the thread went and you know it.

It went my OP then a mantra of Why did Chow do what she did and then I went on a binge trying to explain myself. Through all that muddle of back and forth of YALL not understanding me and me not understanding what I did that was so offensive advice was given. I felt the advice for the most part was jaded even Frost&Bite admitted she didn't think what I did was bad like others made it out to be. So I spent maybe 8 pages trying to get yall to understand that what was done was out of only fun. It was only then that the advice changed and the approach changed.

I don't want validation. I never asked for that. My question also was never answered, I wanted to know why he was approaching the situation like that and not necessarily WHAT to do now that he had hence eh I kept suggestion he was insecure or immature at that moment also Hence the thread title I don't understand this guy.

I wanted to decipher the reasons for his approach, maybe what to do next was a secondary question but this was NEVER filtered through bc people did selective reading throughout the entire thread and it took 8 pages for some to finally say oh I get it.

Yall being SCORPIOS has nothing to do with blunt advice or no sugar. I don't fucking want sugar. Have you seen some of my post? I can give a rats ass how you present it, just fucking read everything that is written for starters what the actual questions being asked in the OP are and what story the OP is telling.

If I say he and I were doing the same thing to EACHOTHER don't turn around and tell me as ADVICE to stop hurting his feelings or catching him off guard/ or start to tell ME THAT the context was different/he didn't do the same thing to you.
Because then it seems like da fuq? Are they not reading. Are they fucking with me right now, they must they must be fucking with me and since I'm bored at work im going to play on.

I am not in distress over this guy or anything for that matter, but the closest I could come to being in distress is through yall, because how can a bunch of scorpios can twist shit in their heads through selective reading and bs to come up with so called advice when they didn't even answer the original questions or understand the original story. It's like I'm sitting here reading this shit with a smile on my face like they made ever attempt to excuse his behavior and everytime I dissolve their excuses they come back with more. The point b
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Posted by GetMisted
Posted by Chowfun92
Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.



You really are this dense, aren't you? Here.. Since again, you're projecting your faults onto a Scorp man. In this case, selective reading.

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Mmm lets see op if a guy told u " I like u only a bit more than that other girl"




ugh, who gives a flying fuck that's the thing. This shit doesn't bother me. IMO you have to be real insecure to be bothered by something so trivial and said in a joking manner. I wouldn't care. I'd be like alright.

For him to feel that way he obviously is insecure, likes me and is trying to put me in the spot to admit to liking him. He seems to need his ego filled and I didn't know it was my job. I'm not his momma.



If that's the case, then you need to just back away.

Scorp men.. No matter how old, or how mature.. Need that ego stroked from time to time.

That is why I preach over and over.. Give him the "illusion of control". Don't act like his mama. Know what you want, be confident, and make him believe everything was his doing.

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No you selectively read, as it is obvious how you bypassed certain points I've mad and make suggestions that are off because of it. Tisk tisk...

I on the other hand see through that bs illusion and that's the fucking problem. It doesn't seem like an illusion bc its so basic that I would hope my scorpio man would be SMART enough to see through that shit. I'd cry if he couldn't.
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How you react to his joking and something that you would deem as similar "joking" you did to him, led to you assuming that he would react the same way you did. Unfortunately that wasnt the case, so now youre calling him insecure. Why couldnt he just felt that your joke wasnt funny and he was offended by it? It sounds like you were offended by some of his jokes and never expressed that to him. Instead you try to "fake joke" around with him, and it backfired. *ADVICE* obviously tit for tat doesnt work, he's not you and youre not him. Maybe you should both save the jokes for when you all start communicating in a serious adult manner, and try and understand one another. You say you were joking but obviously it was some truth in it because you said you do like him correct— So, if there was truth in it why arent you understanding that he took it serious when you compared him to another man? Maybe, as someone said, he wants to feel like he's the only one, that NO ONE compares to who he is as an individual. Just because you added the word "like" in your "joke" doesnt make it a good thing. Stop being so defensive to everyone's comments and focusing on what is negative to you, and decipher the positive. I think Phoenix gave some excellent insights, as well as others on this post.......now about that whiskey, which is the reason why I really commented. Is it still some left— lol I need a shot after reading ALL comments so I would be able to give my insight on this post. I love my fellow water signs! 😄
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Posted by Chowfun92
Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.



Everyone else can see that, and she knows that, but the man himself doesn't see it. Hence illusion.
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Yes, and I wrote if he can't see through that then he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The illusions have to be better than that. An easily fooled man is not attractive to me.
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Posted by Chowfun92
Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.



Everyone else can see that, and she knows that, but the man himself doesn't see it. Hence illusion.



Yes, and I wrote if he can't see through that then he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The illusions have to be better than that. An easily fooled man is not attractive to me.
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or one that gets easily tempted/loses control with a woman.
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Posted by Chowfun92
Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.



Everyone else can see that, and she knows that, but the man himself doesn't see it. Hence illusion.



Yes, and I wrote if he can't see through that then he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The illusions have to be better than that. An easily fooled man is not attractive to me.



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or one that gets easily tempted/loses control with a woman.
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Which is why I can't see how I'm the dense one, when that shit is like 3rd grade manipulation. Any man falling for that and not seeing that his women own that situation automatically gets a side eye, like what the fuck?
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Posted by Chowfun92
Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.



Everyone else can see that, and she knows that, but the man himself doesn't see it. Hence illusion.



Yes, and I wrote if he can't see through that then he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The illusions have to be better than that. An easily fooled man is not attractive to me.



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or one that gets easily tempted/loses control with a woman.



Which is why I can't see how I'm the dense one, when that shit is like 3rd grade manipulation. Any man falling for that and not seeing that his women own that situation automatically gets a side eye, like what the fuck?



I realise I should have said "doesn't or doesn't want to" but this is what you get for ansswering in forums while half-drunk and in pain 🙂

So you're basically calling exo's other half a dense mofo? Is that it?

Is that normal for you? To insult people who try to give you advice? Jesus!

If you know how the control game works, it's not that simple.

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Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.



Everyone else can see that, and she knows that, but the man himself doesn't see it. Hence illusion.



Yes, and I wrote if he can't see through that then he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The illusions have to be better than that. An easily fooled man is not attractive to me.
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I think if everyone in the world thought like you, then religion wouldn't have such a hold
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Nope, I insinuated that the other font that called it an illusion was wrong and in my opinion that kind of easy baby manipulation can be saved for the birds. I didn't insinuate anything about Exo man. I didn't even mention him. As Exo didn't claim she was manipulating her man. Another font did.
And I think if everyone continued on basic illusions/used alcohol as a crutch or backdrop we'd still be using blood letting as an advance medical treatment.
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I don't even understand how or why anyone would want to consider that mind control or giving a man an illusion of control, unless your drunk and have a ego the size of Mars.

What happened is that a woman took control of a sexual situation with her man. He liked it and all went well. There is nothing going on in that man's head regarding whose in control. What he's probably thinking is that her mouth on my dick feels amazing, damn my girlfriend is good.

Not all men or scorpio men are control freaks who take little instances of independence and assertiveness from women and try to tweak it as their doing to fill the black hole that is their ego, if so, then there is a huge problem in that picture and I would suggest you wouldn't find the answer in a bottle
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Respect and going on an ego trip/control binge are two very different things. One can have respect in a relationship and illusions/trickery are not needed to recieve respect or to feel respected in a relationship. A secure man doesn't talk that bullshit. A secure man doesn't need petty nuances to feel good about himself or the person he is with. Yea people want their ego stroked once and a while, but that's once and a while, few and far between and not a crutch or guide for a successful relationship.

All that ego bullbutter and illusion shit are for the birds and are due to a lack of self respect/self worth and confidence in ones self. If your confident in who you are and your self worth, simple illusions or the need to feel in control on stupid shit or most shit wouldnt be on one's radar. Love yourself, know your self worth and all respect will follow. If they don't respect you then fuck em, but to resort to tricking to ur psych to feel good about your ego and feel powerful is a level of crazy that should be hidden under a rock to never see the light of day but to spoken about with your therapist.
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Posted by Chowfun92
Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.


Everyone else can see that, and she knows that, but the man himself doesn't see it. Hence illusion.


Yes, and I wrote if he can't see through that then he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The illusions have to be better than that. An easily fooled man is not attractive to me.


+100
or one that gets easily tempted/loses control with a woman.


Which is why I can't see how I'm the dense one, when that shit is like 3rd grade manipulation. Any man falling for that and not seeing that his women own that situation automatically gets a side eye, like what the fuck?
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lol giving the illusion he's in control is also seeing through that bs. lmao. just be yourself.
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Posted by Chowfun92
Well all I see is that she started and ended in control. I see no illusion.


Everyone else can see that, and she knows that, but the man himself doesn't see it. Hence illusion.


Yes, and I wrote if he can't see through that then he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The illusions have to be better than that. An easily fooled man is not attractive to me.


+100
or one that gets easily tempted/loses control with a woman.


Which is why I can't see how I'm the dense one, when that shit is like 3rd grade manipulation. Any man falling for that and not seeing that his women own that situation automatically gets a side eye, like what the fuck?


lol giving the illusion he's in control is also seeing through that bs. lmao. just be yourself.
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Yes, I'm seeing through it and he's eating it up like a fat sow.

Yes, being myself is the one and only option.
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Posted by exoskeleton
this thread here is unnecessary work, lol.

kiss the man. tell him straight you like him and only him. i promise he won't punch you.



Your right the thread is a bit much. I don't know what it is about my font that attracts SOO much attention...Yall love me YALL really really do!

Anyway I thought about that seriously, but then thought better of kissing him. I figure he's think me easy