Stubborness

This topic was created in the Taurus forum by saweetz1988 on Friday, January 15, 2016 and has 24 replies.

Are We Truly Stubborn According to Astrology

Astrology suggests that stubbornness can stem from Taurus influence, valuing stability and tradition, while Aquarius moons promote open-mindedness. Balancing these traits involves understanding your core tendencies and being willing to adapt. Recognizing each other's astrological influences can improve communication and reduce conflicts related to stubbornness.

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Are we stubborn? I mean are we like really really stubborn—? And our straight forward .. Right or wrong.. Black and white.... My way or no way ( sometimes ).... How do your partners deal with our Stubborness at times ?..... me and my partner..... Had a few conversations about this. He has Venus in Pisces so he's a less stubborn than me n often let me get my own ways lol.... but I think last Nyt he was so tired that it annoyed him deep inside that I wasn't exactly understanding his point of view... But Ofcoz I did but I sill had a strong BELIEVE in my point of view.. lol.... I always been very independent strong woman so now I feel like maybe I shud lower down my guard and let lose a little.. Is it my need for power or something or what? I do wanna b coachsble in life .. As he is a life coach too but seems like he's able to lead a lot of people successfully but having a hard time with me Imao.... So, my point is.... Are we really that stubborn? My moon in Aqua so I have a very opened minded in many many things but I always back to a Taurus old ways.... ps: he's pretty sensitive deep down so if I don't agree or he can't coach me Coz I don't listen.. He gets hurt..... T-T....

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I am very stubborn.

However the love of my life allows me to compromise, bend, and see things from an entirely different perspective...

There are ways to get around it.

The right individual will help you to become a better person and combat those flaws!

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There are two approaches to Taurus.. realistic or simply idealistic. Taurus only know what realistic is. So when grey areas come it is a struggle. Because it should be right, sharpshooter to the point.

Well be a realistic person but a pragmatic and practical judgement...

And grey areas. I hate it. Why not just agree to disagree and truth in a colored scenario. Why the grey. Because we have doubts and when doubts happen issues happen. Especially with how fixed and capable I am to put up with other bullshit. So yes be right and show your true colors and that takes time.

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Posted by wicked
Looks like I'm in for a real treat.... my 5mnth old baby boy is a Leo sun, Taurus moon and Scorpio Rising!!! Hahaha. With mars on MC and four planets including sun, mercury, venus and jupiter in the 10th house. He doesn't have a single mutable placement. Oh great! I think I'm in for a great lesson on patience and control.

Well..... Good luck. I`m doing to go do Sagittarius things.

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Um,I don't think I'm actually stubborn.I'm very receptive to the other person's point of view.I'll stick to my views because I think they're right.Justify sonehow logically that what you're saying is right and I'll agree with you.It's not about being stubborn,it's about right and wrong.I'll go for what's right.

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Also,currently I'm dating an aqua guy.He's way too stubborn. so most of the times I have to agree what he says than the other way round.I'm receptive of his point of view.I don't think he has to 'deal' with MY stubborness(if you may call it that) He's more stubborn than me 😛 Some ppl tell me that I'm stubborn but as I mentioned above, it's more about being right than being stubborn.

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Posted by wicked

Posted by Ilovemyaqua
Also,currently I'm dating an aqua guy.He's way too stubborn. so most of the times I have to agree what he says than the other way round.I'm receptive of his point of view.I don't think he has to 'deal' with MY stubborness(if you may call it that) He's more stubborn than me 😛 Some ppl tell me that I'm stubborn but as I mentioned above, it's more about being right than being stubborn.

Everything you said in these two paras didnt come across as stubborn. At all! Lol 😉

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I know what you mean *evil smile* lmao 😛

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Posted by RumiLove
YESSSS.

Very stubborn. Especially the moons. ☺

Dunno about partners. My Aries friend throws tantrums and cries a lot with her Taurus boyfriend, and gives in. She loves his stubborn, rigid, "my way or highway" nature.

My partner is sitting 20 of April so kind of Aries n Taurus inch....

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Posted by wicked
And btw you guys are very very stubborn! There is no two ways about it. Even the person who loves you the most wont disagree on this. Most often your stubborness hurts others a lot. Even your loved ones. We bear it because we love you. So dont think you give more than what tou receive from others. Because if we werent patient enough to hang around, there wouldnt be a relationship. So please try to show appreciation to the person who sticks around despite your stubborness. Because you are capable of ignoring the other person's feelings to the hilt and treat them like non living things or even like use and throw. Seen it happen many times. Then you guys run back to the other after they have moved on.
Otherwise you guys are great but this you could work on a bit. To be more considerate of others feelings.

Noted. Moon in Aqua doesn't helps sometimes. I am working on it 🙂

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Posted by wicked

Posted by Ilovemyaqua
Also,currently I'm dating an aqua guy.He's way too stubborn. so most of the times I have to agree what he says than the other way round.I'm receptive of his point of view.I don't think he has to 'deal' with MY stubborness(if you may call it that) He's more stubborn than me 😛 Some ppl tell me that I'm stubborn but as I mentioned above, it's more about being right than being stubborn.

Everything you said in these two paras didnt come across as stubborn. At all! Lol 😉

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+1 Imao

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I don't think my fixed Aqua moon is helping either.... and I think I'm more stubborn with people I'm closest with... I wanna get what I want.. EAT what I wanna EAT lol..... Go away by myself if that's what I feel like doing etc etc.... N ofcause views of life.. Right and wrong... Very big on justices..... I don't think my partner truly understand that about me ....

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Posted by saweetz1988
Are we stubborn? I mean are we like really really stubborn—? And our straight forward .. Right or wrong.. Black and white.... My way or no way ( sometimes ).... How do your partners deal with our Stubborness at times ?..... me and my partner..... Had a few conversations about this. He has Venus in Pisces so he's a less stubborn than me n often let me get my own ways lol.... but I think last Nyt he was so tired that it annoyed him deep inside that I wasn't exactly understanding his point of view... But Ofcoz I did but I sill had a strong BELIEVE in my point of view.. lol.... I always been very independent strong woman so now I feel like maybe I shud lower down my guard and let lose a little.. Is it my need for power or something or what? I do wanna b coachsble in life .. As he is a life coach too but seems like he's able to lead a lot of people successfully but having a hard time with me Imao.... So, my point is.... Are we really that stubborn? My moon in Aqua so I have a very opened minded in many many things but I always back to a Taurus old ways.... ps: he's pretty sensitive deep down so if I don't agree or he can't coach me Coz I don't listen.. He gets hurt..... T-T....

My Taurus sure is stubborn. He just hides it well behind his wall of patience.! He patiently waits for it to go his way. Lol he usually gets or attracts exactly what he wants.

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stubborn or determined? i always think stubborn is being stubborn for stubborn's sake, almost wilful.

i suppose you guys can do that but i've not witnessed it. my bull is determined and once he has set his mind to something he will not let go of the idea. i like that about him. it means he knows what he wants and goes about to make it happen.

i deal with it by respecting it. i make no effort to control my bull so if he is absolutely fixed on something, i leave him to it. or if we disagree, then he is entitled to his opinion as much as mine. he doesn't have to agree with me for us to get along.

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VERY stubborn! My ex is stubborn in a very fixed in his ways way, both of my Taurus horses are like mules they're so stubborn, my Taurus brother is stubborn, and so was my Taurus grandma. My cardinal energy simply wears them down until they give in. Worked on the horses, at least! lol

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Posted by wicked

Posted by MoonArtist
VERY stubborn! My ex is stubborn in a very fixed in his ways way, both of my Taurus horses are like mules they're so stubborn, my Taurus brother is stubborn, and so was my Taurus grandma. My cardinal energy simply wears them down until they give in. Worked on the horses, at least! lol

I dont know why but I had a good laugh reading this.... nice :-)

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I almost pity all the Taurus people in my life....including my adorable horses! 😆

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Posted by exxtasyx
Stubborn like hell and good at reading people. I don't think Taurus' get the proper credit in the astrology community for how good they are at reading people and manipulating situations.

+1 hahaha

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I start to wonder if this is the trait I wanna improve on or leave it as is. Imao... If my partner truly loves me he will bear with it right? lol

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Posted by busyeyes88
I would not used the word "stubborn" but "determined" in my pursuits. My taurus and I have locked horns a couple of times and it has been a case of "agree to disagree".

My Jupiter is in Gem, Venus in pisces with Pluto and Uranus in virgo and these are mutable placements. So I personally think it depends on a person's chart... I am open to persuasion!

I prefer to call myself determined too, though others have called me stubborn. If venus in Pisces makes a Taurus less stubborn then, that's me too cuz that my Venus position. When I was younger, I probably believed "my way or no way". But that doesn't get you far in the world and as much as I hate games, there are manouvers that can win people over to you point of view.
Capricorns always get me out of my "stubborn" rut. I don't know how they do it, but they just do. And they can even make me feel like it's my choice. Those people are geniuses. I love 'em.

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Posted by saweetz1988

Posted by TxOgal
its killing my relationship .... i hate it when they dont understand

What's their placements and yours?

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me:
taurus sun
scorpio moon
tsurus mercury
aries venus
picses mars

him:
leo sun
aqua moon
virgo mercury
virgo venus
virgo mars

sometimes one of us could bend to solve our issues... this time we are both too stubborn.. its also about their pride .. but this time it hurts so bad that i am breaking up..

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Posted by Impulsv

Posted by saweetz1988
I start to wonder if this is the trait I wanna improve on or leave it as is. Imao... If my partner truly loves me he will bear with it right? lol

if u want to remain single
Any relationship is about give in take why do expect ur partner to bend until they break
It's cruel just for stubborn sake

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Noted.