Generic question for all guys though this is about a virgo (Page 2)

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Do you really think he is going to be warm and fuzzy right off the bat?

He already knows what could happen.

What will happen if he's warm and fuzzy?

You're talking about one of those ultra soft and forgiving virgos.

Is there such thing?

If you can find them before life hammers them into bitterness and self pity sure.

lol I am sure life has hammered him a lot we both actually have a lot of past issues which we talked through in the beginning.

Anywho..... based on your responses I am still wondering if you think this is all positive or not? or at least is this a start to him maybe considering coming back around?

Way too early to call it.

He is going to judge your actions and determine if your worth the risk a second time.

Sounds about right, Would you suggest any particular way I should act to make him feel secure? Like should I let him initiate conversations or would he want me to show some interest as well. I think I have already realized its not as easy as just straight up telling him how I feel.

Do what you did as when you first met...

Clearly there was something there that interested him in you.. people make mistakes virgos recognize that and I'm sure he recognizes that... but he needs security that the same mistake won't be made. Words aren't enough here. Time will make that confirmation.

Would you be weirded out if some one asked you politely - if you accepted their apology ?

Our fight was about 3 weeks ago and then we have steadily regained contact we talked a couple of times last week so I was gonna ask him this at some point not right away but after giving him some more space...

@virgoOPPP I would appreciate your opinion on this too

I would question why they would ask that.

Isn't him acknowledging you enough to confirm that?

When a virgo has burned their bridge it is over there is non of this stuff here... you are long dead and live on only as a memory.

It will always be actions over words.

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Wow, honestly I am sure he would think just the way your said.

But it funny because I feel like him talking is one thing but if he doesn't accept an apology that means he is still resentful and we can't move past an issue.

Would it also be better if I completely avoid the talk of the fight?

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Posted by aquatar1if he wanted me i feel like he'd say something, no?

depends on the rest of his chart.

how long has it been since the conversation about him pulling back?

depending how much time has lapsed, if it’s easy enough, i’d prob pop around casually to say hi & ask him how he’s doing. just be casual & friendly, keep it light hearted. dont ask anything heavy, or bring up the conversation (work is not the place for that).

he might think yalls next interaction is gonna be heavy & weird so, i would try & keep it light... make him feel comf w/ engaging again.

can i ask what your placements are?

btw i am not a virgo but i deal w/ a virgo sun male rather intimately & have a number of virgo placement friends.

i am currently dealing w/ virgo sun coming back around for the 4th time in a year.

its been about 3 and a half weeks since then. Last thing I said was I actually apologized to him if I had done anything to him and he said no you havent done anything, most of this was me. The conversation ended with me saying that i think its good for him to take time to figure stuff out and that i hope im around by then once he does figure it out, and that was it.

we then avoided each other. we didnt see each other at all, but he was watching my snapchat still when I'd post stuff.

He just came back around now, and I feel it was purposeful, cause he knows thats where I am at that time specifically. And he was kinda awkwardly at a distance watching lol. I understand he may be worried I'll confront him or something so at one point, I waved and smiled at him and kept walking by that day, after I saw him...and then the second day after that, I didnt acknowledge him at all and I did my thing/left basically. Then the day after that I didnt see him anymore lol. Was I not friendly enough? lmao

I feel weird acknowledging him now, cause hes the one who backed away from me initially to "figure things out", so if he wanted to have me in his life again I feel like HE should reach out, no?? I dont know how his thought process is right now?? What could he be thinking?

I'm a taurus sun, gemini venus, pisces moon. Please do give me any advice you have, this is my first virgo situation lmao

why dont you just send him a text that says “hi, it’s been awhile, hope you are doing well : ) “

maybe he needs you to break the ice since it was your feelings that got hurt? he could think that you bringing up space was a way of saying YOU needed space... i dunno, sometimes virgos get it twisted

i say, if you care enough in making it work, just suck it up & be the first to initiate. 3.5 weeks is plenty of time to send a “hi how ya doin” text.

Thats a very good and mature way to handle things lol. But Im not sure I can. See he's done the virgo disappearing stuff for a few days only, at a time, before and it was always me reaching out and breaking the ice with a text. This time around though I dont feel comfortable honestly... what if hes done with me, I don't want to bother him or make him feel pressured/guilty to be nice to me, ya know?? Cause to me someone saying "I'm not sure where I want this to go" is a rejection, you had enough time to get to know me, if you dont know now then its a no, ya know? Maybe virgos think differently idk.

I was just confused as to why he came back around my area. I wish virgos were more direct...this sign is so passive and sideways lol. how the heck do you handle it? lol

the first few times i always took him back. there was a 4 month period of barely any contact & no meet ups. the connection, on my end, dissipated.

now that he’s around again... texting a couple times a week, asking to hang out... im over it. not really interested in making any effort & not romantically interested anymore. he is working through major addiction issues & i still really care for him so, i am happy to be there as a friend but, not romantically.

this seems to only be encouraging him. he has a fire moon, venus, mars, & rising... so i think my lack of effort is seen as a chase. which is why i can never tell if his returns are genuine or for an ego boost.

i always conclude it’s for his ego. my aquarius & capricorn placements will never stroke an ego that doesnt deserve it.

Were your guys every steadily 'together' before he started this the push and pull BS?

yes. every time he comes back, he becomes a little more open: emotions, effort, insight, etc. we’ll be good for 3 months then pulls away. last time i let him back in, he went as far as to start telling me he loved me.

now, i’m p over it & he would really have to go above & beyond for me to ever consider him an option again.

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lol why is 3 months the general time time line? I guess anything more than that and you'll have to actually DTR?

I am also curious about when this first started ? were you in a relation then or just in a getting to know each other phase ?

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Posted by aquatar1if he wanted me i feel like he'd say something, no?

depends on the rest of his chart.

how long has it been since the conversation about him pulling back?

depending how much time has lapsed, if it’s easy enough, i’d prob pop around casually to say hi & ask him how he’s doing. just be casual & friendly, keep it light hearted. dont ask anything heavy, or bring up the conversation (work is not the place for that).

he might think yalls next interaction is gonna be heavy & weird so, i would try & keep it light... make him feel comf w/ engaging again.

can i ask what your placements are?

btw i am not a virgo but i deal w/ a virgo sun male rather intimately & have a number of virgo placement friends.

i am currently dealing w/ virgo sun coming back around for the 4th time in a year.

its been about 3 and a half weeks since then. Last thing I said was I actually apologized to him if I had done anything to him and he said no you havent done anything, most of this was me. The conversation ended with me saying that i think its good for him to take time to figure stuff out and that i hope im around by then once he does figure it out, and that was it.

we then avoided each other. we didnt see each other at all, but he was watching my snapchat still when I'd post stuff.

He just came back around now, and I feel it was purposeful, cause he knows thats where I am at that time specifically. And he was kinda awkwardly at a distance watching lol. I understand he may be worried I'll confront him or something so at one point, I waved and smiled at him and kept walking by that day, after I saw him...and then the second day after that, I didnt acknowledge him at all and I did my thing/left basically. Then the day after that I didnt see him anymore lol. Was I not friendly enough? lmao

I feel weird acknowledging him now, cause hes the one who backed away from me initially to "figure things out", so if he wanted to have me in his life again I feel like HE should reach out, no?? I dont know how his thought process is right now?? What could he be thinking?

I'm a taurus sun, gemini venus, pisces moon. Please do give me any advice you have, this is my first virgo situation lmao

why dont you just send him a text that says “hi, it’s been awhile, hope you are doing well : ) “

maybe he needs you to break the ice since it was your feelings that got hurt? he could think that you bringing up space was a way of saying YOU needed space... i dunno, sometimes virgos get it twisted

i say, if you care enough in making it work, just suck it up & be the first to initiate. 3.5 weeks is plenty of time to send a “hi how ya doin” text.

Thats a very good and mature way to handle things lol. But Im not sure I can. See he's done the virgo disappearing stuff for a few days only, at a time, before and it was always me reaching out and breaking the ice with a text. This time around though I dont feel comfortable honestly... what if hes done with me, I don't want to bother him or make him feel pressured/guilty to be nice to me, ya know?? Cause to me someone saying "I'm not sure where I want this to go" is a rejection, you had enough time to get to know me, if you dont know now then its a no, ya know? Maybe virgos think differently idk.

I was just confused as to why he came back around my area. I wish virgos were more direct...this sign is so passive and sideways lol. how the heck do you handle it? lol

the first few times i always took him back. there was a 4 month period of barely any contact & no meet ups. the connection, on my end, dissipated.

now that he’s around again... texting a couple times a week, asking to hang out... im over it. not really interested in making any effort & not romantically interested anymore. he is working through major addiction issues & i still really care for him so, i am happy to be there as a friend but, not romantically.

this seems to only be encouraging him. he has a fire moon, venus, mars, & rising... so i think my lack of effort is seen as a chase. which is why i can never tell if his returns are genuine or for an ego boost.

i always conclude it’s for his ego. my aquarius & capricorn placements will never stroke an ego that doesnt deserve it.

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oh wow, im sorry, you sound like a very kind person, hes lucky to have you tbh! even as a friend!

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Do you really think he is going to be warm and fuzzy right off the bat?

He already knows what could happen.

What will happen if he's warm and fuzzy?

You're talking about one of those ultra soft and forgiving virgos.

Is there such thing?

If you can find them before life hammers them into bitterness and self pity sure.

lol I am sure life has hammered him a lot we both actually have a lot of past issues which we talked through in the beginning.

Anywho..... based on your responses I am still wondering if you think this is all positive or not? or at least is this a start to him maybe considering coming back around?

Way too early to call it.

He is going to judge your actions and determine if your worth the risk a second time.

Sounds about right, Would you suggest any particular way I should act to make him feel secure? Like should I let him initiate conversations or would he want me to show some interest as well. I think I have already realized its not as easy as just straight up telling him how I feel.

Do what you did as when you first met...

Clearly there was something there that interested him in you.. people make mistakes virgos recognize that and I'm sure he recognizes that... but he needs security that the same mistake won't be made. Words aren't enough here. Time will make that confirmation.

Would you be weirded out if some one asked you politely - if you accepted their apology ?

Our fight was about 3 weeks ago and then we have steadily regained contact we talked a couple of times last week so I was gonna ask him this at some point not right away but after giving him some more space...

@virgoOPPP I would appreciate your opinion on this too

I would question why they would ask that.

Isn't him acknowledging you enough to confirm that?

When a virgo has burned their bridge it is over there is non of this stuff here... you are long dead and live on only as a memory.

It will always be actions over words.

Wow, honestly I am sure he would think just the way your said.

But it funny because I feel like him talking is one thing but if he doesn't accept an apology that means he is still resentful and we can't move past an issue.

Would it also be better if I completely avoid the talk of the fight?

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I think you can still be forgiving of the person and resentful of the situation.

I want to say it's not worth bringing it up at all.. i don't know him but as a virgo in general I AM going to point fingers where a situation went bad and I AM going to hurt feelings on a subject like that.

Not intentionally but i will put it all out there.

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I am a rising Virgo. It shines so hard that Caps and Scorps first guess is Virgo. My Childrens mother is a Virgo and my son is a Virgo. I have learned to use my rising sign to override my other signs when making important decisions. Reorganization.

Your basically on probation. The situation was re analyzed and taken into consideration. Being earth you should be in control of your emotions by this time in your life. He already has you calculated, move by move. He knows the early symptoms of your behavior. Basically, he will know your breaking point before it will happen again. The more you remove these behaviors, the lower his guard will go. If you fuck that up. You will be ghosted.

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Do you really think he is going to be warm and fuzzy right off the bat?

He already knows what could happen.

What will happen if he's warm and fuzzy?

You're talking about one of those ultra soft and forgiving virgos.

Is there such thing?

If you can find them before life hammers them into bitterness and self pity sure.

lol I am sure life has hammered him a lot we both actually have a lot of past issues which we talked through in the beginning.

Anywho..... based on your responses I am still wondering if you think this is all positive or not? or at least is this a start to him maybe considering coming back around?

Way too early to call it.

He is going to judge your actions and determine if your worth the risk a second time.

Sounds about right, Would you suggest any particular way I should act to make him feel secure? Like should I let him initiate conversations or would he want me to show some interest as well. I think I have already realized its not as easy as just straight up telling him how I feel.

Do what you did as when you first met...

Clearly there was something there that interested him in you.. people make mistakes virgos recognize that and I'm sure he recognizes that... but he needs security that the same mistake won't be made. Words aren't enough here. Time will make that confirmation.

Would you be weirded out if some one asked you politely - if you accepted their apology ?

Our fight was about 3 weeks ago and then we have steadily regained contact we talked a couple of times last week so I was gonna ask him this at some point not right away but after giving him some more space...

@virgoOPPP I would appreciate your opinion on this too

I would question why they would ask that.

Isn't him acknowledging you enough to confirm that?

When a virgo has burned their bridge it is over there is non of this stuff here... you are long dead and live on only as a memory.

It will always be actions over words.

Wow, honestly I am sure he would think just the way your said.

But it funny because I feel like him talking is one thing but if he doesn't accept an apology that means he is still resentful and we can't move past an issue.

Would it also be better if I completely avoid the talk of the fight?

I think you can still be forgiving of the person and resentful of the situation.

I want to say it's not worth bringing it up at all.. i don't know him but as a virgo in general I AM going to point fingers where a situation went bad and I AM going to hurt feelings on a subject like that.

Not intentionally but i will put it all out there.

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Makes sense. I guess the best I can do here is go with the flow and see where it leads us.

Have you ever gone back to any of your past romantic interest? and what worked or what didn't on their part?

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I am a rising Virgo. It shines so hard that Caps and Scorps first guess is Virgo. My Childrens mother is a Virgo and my son is a Virgo. I have learned to use my rising sign to override my other signs when making important decisions. Reorganization.

Your basically on probation. The situation was re analyzed and taken into consideration. Being earth you should be in control of your emotions by this time in your life. He already has you calculated, move by move. He knows the early symptoms of your behavior. Basically, he will know your breaking point before it will happen again. The more you remove these behaviors, the lower his guard will go. If you fuck that up. You will be ghosted.

I will keep this in mind. Honestly I think next time I am in a situation like this I would withdraw myself before anything else. That's what I wanted to do this time but was concerned about HIS feelings but I guess that was dumb lol.

ALSO totally forgot to mention thiS- Me being emotional started with me being in a place where I didn't know where I was going professionally because that affected my personal choices (Capricorn things). There was a good possibility that I was gonna move away. Then our casual dating would have become a long distance thing. I actually clearly sensed that was a problem for him since he took up a job which is already further out but he continued to live in his old place.

AND GUESS WHAT? right around the time I was gonna move away he contacted and checked in if I actually did end up moving. I actually didn't because things worked out with my work and now we have stayed in contact. He WAS evaluating all sorts of things I am guessing

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Do you really think he is going to be warm and fuzzy right off the bat?

He already knows what could happen.

What will happen if he's warm and fuzzy?

You're talking about one of those ultra soft and forgiving virgos.

Is there such thing?

If you can find them before life hammers them into bitterness and self pity sure.

lol I am sure life has hammered him a lot we both actually have a lot of past issues which we talked through in the beginning.

Anywho..... based on your responses I am still wondering if you think this is all positive or not? or at least is this a start to him maybe considering coming back around?

Way too early to call it.

He is going to judge your actions and determine if your worth the risk a second time.

Not to piggyback off her thread but I am interested in hearing your input.

I was seeing this Virgo sun/Pisces moon/Leo mars and Venus for a while but things started off quickly and it made me nervous. The chemistry was insane, magnetic actually. But I started to feel like he only wanted something casual and I started to like him a lot and it made me nervous so I pulled back a bit. We would text everyday, he would usually send me good morning and good night texts everyday but other than that, we did not talk much on the phone and we only saw each other a couple times a week. I started to feel like he only wanted something casual/physical and I didn’t want to be used so I told him I thought we should just be friends (even though I liked him a lot) he is Lebanese/Muslim and I am white/Christian and I had a hunch this will likely not to anywhere long term so even though I thoroughly enjoyed him and borderline obsessed with him, I was afraid of being hurt.

After I told him I wanted to only be friends he deleted me from his Snapchat friends. It pissed me off so then I deleted him out of my phone and off my fb friends. He could still see my fb page though and I think he was still watching it, because a few days later I blocked him (not to be petty, but I blocked him so that I couldn’t stalk his page anymore or see him flirting/commenting on our mutual female friends pics) the same day I blocked him on fb he sent me another friend request on Snapchat. I accepted it and he’s been viewing my posts but hasn’t said anything. Is he just watching my posts being nosey?

It drives me nuts how much I like this guy and wish that I didn’t. I think if our cultural/religious differences weren’t such an issue, I would probably relax a little. But even a mutual friend of ours who has known him longer confirmed that he would never marry me. I’m just rambling, I’m sorry. I should get a diary 🤣 just curious about your thoughts on this guy and what might be going through his head. Before deleting me off Snapchat he was acting cold toward me and not really making any effort so that’s why I eventually blocked him so I couldn’t watch his page anymore because I felt like I was more into him than he was into me. We also had 2 mutual female friends on fb and he would purposely try to make me jealous by reacting/responding to the pictures they’d post or themselves with their cleavage out or bikini pics etc. that was another reason I told him I just wanted to be friends because he would purposely try to provoke my jealousy. The reason I say he did it on purpose was because it was a topic that came up while we were still dating, and they were mutual friends of ours so he knew I would see it.

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Umm I feel like if he is not talking initiative of any kind then there is no point of you being hung up on him, just looking at your stories and stuff- that could just be his curiosity. Just start dating other guys/do you and if he cleans up his act and becomes a man you can decide if you want to take it anywhere.

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Do you really think he is going to be warm and fuzzy right off the bat?

He already knows what could happen.

What will happen if he's warm and fuzzy?

You're talking about one of those ultra soft and forgiving virgos.

Is there such thing?

If you can find them before life hammers them into bitterness and self pity sure.

lol I am sure life has hammered him a lot we both actually have a lot of past issues which we talked through in the beginning.

Anywho..... based on your responses I am still wondering if you think this is all positive or not? or at least is this a start to him maybe considering coming back around?

Way too early to call it.

He is going to judge your actions and determine if your worth the risk a second time.

Not to piggyback off her thread but I am interested in hearing your input.

I was seeing this Virgo sun/Pisces moon/Leo mars and Venus for a while but things started off quickly and it made me nervous. The chemistry was insane, magnetic actually. But I started to feel like he only wanted something casual and I started to like him a lot and it made me nervous so I pulled back a bit. We would text everyday, he would usually send me good morning and good night texts everyday but other than that, we did not talk much on the phone and we only saw each other a couple times a week. I started to feel like he only wanted something casual/physical and I didn’t want to be used so I told him I thought we should just be friends (even though I liked him a lot) he is Lebanese/Muslim and I am white/Christian and I had a hunch this will likely not to anywhere long term so even though I thoroughly enjoyed him and borderline obsessed with him, I was afraid of being hurt.

After I told him I wanted to only be friends he deleted me from his Snapchat friends. It pissed me off so then I deleted him out of my phone and off my fb friends. He could still see my fb page though and I think he was still watching it, because a few days later I blocked him (not to be petty, but I blocked him so that I couldn’t stalk his page anymore or see him flirting/commenting on our mutual female friends pics) the same day I blocked him on fb he sent me another friend request on Snapchat. I accepted it and he’s been viewing my posts but hasn’t said anything. Is he just watching my posts being nosey?

It drives me nuts how much I like this guy and wish that I didn’t. I think if our cultural/religious differences weren’t such an issue, I would probably relax a little. But even a mutual friend of ours who has known him longer confirmed that he would never marry me. I’m just rambling, I’m sorry. I should get a diary 🤣 just curious about your thoughts on this guy and what might be going through his head. Before deleting me off Snapchat he was acting cold toward me and not really making any effort so that’s why I eventually blocked him so I couldn’t watch his page anymore because I felt like I was more into him than he was into me. We also had 2 mutual female friends on fb and he would purposely try to make me jealous by reacting/responding to the pictures they’d post or themselves with their cleavage out or bikini pics etc. that was another reason I told him I just wanted to be friends because he would purposely try to provoke my jealousy. The reason I say he did it on purpose was because it was a topic that came up while we were still dating, and they were mutual friends of ours so he knew I would see it.

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I've come to understand stuff like this is to test how much you care. (The deleting you part anyway)

I also come to understand that we virgos have a duality between being a loner and being in a relationship.. it sound like he was walking that fence and had it good until you had the friend zone talk.

Seems like he is stalking your post for any sign of you missing him so he can take advantage of an opportunity and have his good life again.

So just updating :-

This virguy has been super responsive to my texts over the last week and actually started to get a little more warm/funny. But now I feel like I am walking on eggshells trying not to get too harshly judged by him and often end up saying awkward things. So I want to just back off for now.

So generally I text to ask him for help or his opinion on something but until now I haven't said anything about wanting to see him again or pursuing any kind of relationship (I thought it would be obvious) but so many posts say that they are sensitive and shy that I am just wondering if I should just send him a text thanking him for his support so far and then something like 'would love to catch up at some point' before I just decide to go totally MIA on him?

Would a text like this make him feel more pressured?