Help!....Virgo Misunderstood (Page 2)

"I wouldn't consider it a good thing to laugh at those that are caring enough to give of themselves and get hurt. If anything, you should feel anger towards those that are doing the hurting."


See, from my perspective .. in the above scenerio .. the person who is hurting this person .. is him/her self. If a person "gives" just to satisfy their own desire to be viewed upon by another person as beautiful .. yet, would injure their own self by giving erroneously believing that it should be unconditionally accepted .. then this is a pain that is self-inflicted.

Pisces will always go to the aid of someone suffering .. however, this isn't considered suffering to us.

"Oh we 'get it' alright. You just don't get that we get it. Because you don't get it."


Forgive them Father .. for they know not what they do. 😛

"What I ment about the whole "self love" thing is I have this Pisces male friend who is very OPEN about himself, he even tells me about his intimate moments with himself and his girlfriends."


Awwww ... he's sharing with you .. how sweet 😉

The selfless Pisces !!!!

I know what you mean, though .. my brother (Cancer/Pisces moon) used to tell me about his woman's snatch. And I was like, "Arrrg, too much information, too much information" .. and then ponder whether I should get holy water, or a wooden stake.

P-Angel: I do understand what you are telling me, which kinda goes back to what I said about making a conscious effort to protect myself. Although this kind of thinking contradicts what the Bible teaches us, which answers why you don't believe in God. What happened to "do unto others as you should have done unto you?" I think we should be somewhere in the middle.....not one extreme or the other. I can only blame myself for allowing certain situations to occur. I will not blame myself for doing good for others. However, if I feel "hurt" so much, I obviously have to make a change in respect to who I do things for and to what degree. And contrary to what you stated, I don't do things for others to feel "beautiful" or any of that nonsense; I do good for others because it is my natural instinct, it is what God has instilled in us upon birth. The problem is, we have regressed as a society, we are all about ME instead of the greater good. So, the teachings of the Bible may be inadequate in today's society. I would never mock someone who tried to do good and was hurt. I find that behavior repulsive. Out of curiousity, in the 20 years you have been living with your man, what views has he changed of yours?

"Although this kind of thinking contradicts what the Bible teaches us, which answers why you don't believe in God. What happened to "do unto others as you should have done unto you?""

Yeah, I don't believe in that mind-set .. it promotes ignorance, from my perspective. For instance, to do unto others as you would have them do unto you .. actually means you have an expectation of them to treat you according to how have treated them. I don't believe in expectations of another person, which would give reason why I don't believe in all this as a way of living my life.

"if I feel "hurt" so much, I obviously have to make a change in respect to who I do things for and to what degree."

If you have to change the people in which you do things for .. what this is saying that you will only do good things for the people in which will appreciate it .. what this means is that you have an expectation of what you are to recieve back, so you therefore have to change to whom you give of yourself.

"I obviously have to make a change in respect to who I do things for and to what degree"

That's an expectation to recieve something back .. so, therefore, you will only do good to those who will make you feel good about yourself for helping them. This is all about wanting someone else to make you feel good about yourself. If no pat on the back, then no aid, lol. That's really the opposite of giving selflessly .. to give of the self selflessly, doesn't require appreciation back.

This is the mind-set of this god, and, I most definintely rebel against it. This diety promotes ignorance, by means of stroking the ego .. by releasing the individual of any personal accountibility. That is what I see being instilled.

Believe in the lord .. and you shall recieve something back
Don't believe .. and you will be punished for it

I don't see any personal accountibility in that, rather, obediance for a reward system. Hence: If someone doesn't respond/react the way I want them to because of an expectation .. then they will no longer recieve anything from me.

That's not instinct .. it's programming.

From my perspective, believing in god retards our awareness of the truth .. the truth being .. our fate is in our own minds.

Even this "Free Will" that religious people think they have, they really don't .. for they believe that they suffer the consequences of hell if disobediant to his will.

It's all a contridiction .. hypocracy

"I would never mock someone who tried to do good and was hurt. I find that behavior repulsive."

I would mock if this good was done for the givers ego, which it is for the ego .. if it wasn't then there would be no reason to be hurt.

If a giver gives selflessly because they want to help another person, then to not be selfish, means there are no expectations back .. however, if you are to feel hurt by this deed, then it's because something was expected back, in which didn't come as a reward for your good deed.

< mocks, for it doesn't come from the heart.


"Out of curiousity, in the 20 years you have been living with your man, what views has he changed of yours?"

None, as far as values. Certainly, every person grows/evolves and there's many things I've changed within myself .. however, it has come from within myself and my desire for self-improvement, rather than anything he has changed in me. He can't change me .. only I can do that.

""I'm sorry to have ruined a good thread like this, forgive me. What I ment about the whole "self love" thing is I have this Pisces male friend who is very OPEN about himself, he even tells me about his intimate moments with himself and his girlfriends. Which I find disturbing so I usually ignore it, thankfully I have no problem with the females of this sign.""

hey you didn't ruin the thread! it's ok......I'm a firm believer everyone should practice some SELF-LOVE.......for sure! well people of an open nature don't bother me.....they actually make me laugh and well that means teasing time lol

"The one and only mission of my life is to make virgos aware of emotions and I know it may be a difficult goal but not impossible! Some one said, Vs are "MUTABLE" so trying to twist them all to mold in a product I would like."

Now that's funny! I think most virgos are non-conforming, independent free-thinkers whom mutate at our own interest and desire as needed. Sounds more like "Mission Impossible!" Ha-ha!