I can NOT believe the audacity of this WOMAN! (Page 2)

Posted by P-Angel
"I don't see how I can not be good for her."
Of course you don't see it .. you're blind.

By all means, please tell me what kind of man would be good for her?

I fall into the "Good guy you want to marry" archetype.

Posted by Cajunspirit

Posted by P-Angel
"I don't see how I can not be good for her."
Of course you don't see it .. you're blind.

By all means, please tell me what kind of man would be good for her?

I fall into the "Good guy you want to marry" archetype.

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How the fuck am I suppose to know what kind of guy is good for her, I don't even fucking know her, Cajun.

However, isn't it obvious? The kind of guy that would be good for her is one to whom she decides is good for her .. thus far, you have been the one trying to make this decision and this is also the reason why you fail to see what is right in front of your face.

You cannot decide what is good for another person. In your attempt to make this decision on her behalf because this is what YOU WANT, you have failed to see that she isn't even worth whatever you have that you consider good.

I'm unclear why you refuse to See. Are your defenses built so high that you would let yourself be ignorant?



ARe you so naive that you think being a good guy is the type most girls want to marry?

Again ... you cannot decide what is good for another person in life, Cajun .. you can only decide what is good for you.

You apparantly aren't even ready to have relationships with people if you actually believe that what is right/wrong for another comes soley from your perspective.

Do you ever stop to think of "what" she is/you are, or do you only think "that" she is/was suppose to be your girlfriend.

You say you are good for her .... she thinks, according to her actions that good for her is a fuck on the side, Cajun, while having her Main Man fight to keep her, so she can feel really special.

If you really think that you are good for her when that ^^^^ is her, then I guess the only thing you need to figure out is which one you are ... the fuck on the side, or the Main Man fighting to keep her.

Why would you turn her away if how you actually feel is to keep her?


Because defending yourself in saying you are right for her, while spying on her every move to see what is doing/saying .. is proving that you want to keep her .. yet, you threw her away.


Are you playing a head game?






Why the deception?


You say you are good for her .. while I wonder if you even realize who you are, yourself because thus far, according to what you said in here, you lie to yourself.

Posted by P-Angel

How the fuck am I suppose to know what kind of guy is good for her, I don't even fucking know her, Cajun.

So you don't know what is good for her, yet you have the nerve to tell me that I am not?

You cannot decide what is good for another person. In your attempt to make this decision on her behalf because this is what YOU WANT, you have failed to see that she isn't even worth whatever you have that you consider good.

I did not make this decision, she has told me these things herself.

ARe you so naive that you think being a good guy is the type most girls want to marry?

This I can admit to. I am naive, I don't see why a woman would not want to marry a good guy.

Again ... you cannot decide what is good for another person in life, Cajun .. you can only decide what is good for you.

This is undeniably true.

Do you ever stop to think of "what" she is/you are, or do you only think "that" she is/was suppose to be your girlfriend.

I sure do.

I guess the only thing you need to figure out is which one you are ... the fuck on the side, or the Main Man fighting to keep her.

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I know what I am.

cajun y are u going 2 battle wit p angel dats wat she wants u dont have 2 tell people who u are as a person and wat u stand for case close.

obviously u kno wat u want as person and wat u need


i dont kno y people wanna get married and all that jive lmfao

Posted by LeGendary ViRGo


cajun y are u going 2 battle wit p angel dats wat she wants u dont have 2 tell people who u are as a person and wat u stand for case close.

obviously u kno wat u want as person and wat u need

She was right about the "feeling special" thing. So I had to give her, her due.

I don't know why she continues to lambast me though, it's almost personal.

Canjun you are going somewhere with this and may be a good guy for her after all. zGive her some time to think about the relationship. Earth and air signs think the know so much about fire signs but they really don't. Once again I'll say it, FIRE SIGNS DON'T SIT ANdD THINK about crap. They DO. Fire signs feel strongly and act everything out. I fthey want to do something they do it , they are too busy doing what they want and knowing whst they want to sit and waste time to think about what they want. The ONLY time the waste time thinking is when they CAN'T get what they wnt. They think about ehat they may hvave done wromg, what is a better way to appproach the situation, and finally if what the want is a hopeless battle. I suggest you end your head game after she has expressed to you her true feelings i.e. what she feels she did wrong what she is willing to do to compromise what she feels that you do that irritates her or whatev and understanding. Now if you are still playing head games at that point BEWARE because you may not only damage her emotionally but she will remember you with pain choking her throat and bitterness in her eyes. Fire signs are the easiest women to currupt because they have a deep expressive feeling combined with drive. They will continue to express to the world they aare happpy under false pretense while getting the next heart broken tattoo , drinking a shot of tequilla, smoking a cigarette and toying with the next man that comes along. They are what men complain about breaking their hearts while all along they don't realize these men aare the ones that caused the damage.

* Oops spelling mistakes. Sorry on phone.🙂

Posted by sweat.lioness
I suggest you end your head game after she has expressed to you her true feelings i.e. what she feels she did wrong what she is willing to do to compromise what she feels that you do that irritates her or whatev and understanding. Now if you are still playing head games at that point BEWARE because you may not only damage her emotionally but she will remember you with pain choking her throat and bitterness in her eyes.

I'm sorry... but what head games am I playing?

She is the one telling me to prove I love her, yet she pushes me away everytime we have a decent conversation.

Fire signs are the easiest women to currupt because they have a deep expressive feeling combined with drive. They will continue to express to the world they aare happpy under false pretense while getting the next heart broken tattoo , drinking a shot of tequilla, smoking a cigarette and toying with the next man that comes along. They are what men complain about breaking their hearts while all along they don't realize these men aare the ones that caused the damage.

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Faking is so stupid. Just tell me what your problem is....
She claims I broke her heart, but I did so in complete and utter ignorance. Because she refused to admit when she had a problem as well as not tell me most of her problems to begin with.

Posted by castorandpollux
Cajun,

Heart first, head after is what P-Angel's talking about I think. Passion is heart first and you say you can't but put your head first. But you can't do that with a Fire sign. That's why she says you broke her heart. It doesn't make sense to you precisely for that reason I think and that's why you're having a communication impasse. And P-Angel's not lambasting you. Women just go through this with men all the time lol

Well I don't think I can apologise for being male... nor being a logic driven Virgo.

This can also be tied to someone else's head games comment. She's told you what she feels and where she stands and you are having trouble understanding what you're supposed to do. Again, byou're moved by logic and a good reason; but she being a fire sign - hence, passionate - will interpret your attempting to compute this rationally and processing as playing mind games with her because she's just put herself out there and you're not reciprocating...in the way that she needs. Do you see? You interpret her pushing you away when you try to initiate conversation - logic - but she wants you to prove your love through passion. She wants you to let loose and let her know how special she is to you with your raw feelings for her. Hope this helps kinda'?

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Sigh... so what you are saying is less head, less thinking.
More feelings, more doing?

Posted by Kaleidescorp
Cajun, what castorandpollux said is accurate. Your summation of "less head, less thinking, more feeling, more doing" is pretty accurate. I know my attraction for my virgo friend is because of his consistency, his helpful nature, his deep analysis of everything, his undivided attention, but my confusion comes in, not because of those things, but because of the "no discussions of his feelings, no follow through of the doing related to those feelings" type of thing. While the stability of a relationship with a virgo man is incredible, sometimes we women want and need to be swept off our feet, we need to feel that passion that we ignite in that man that no other can, we need the spontaniety of romance and passion, with passion being the key.

I do discuss my feelings. But this whole "less thinking" thing... really is asking the world of a Virgo.
I need to think, I need to understand, I need logic.

while she knows that what you provide for her is what she needs (thus her statement that you are the best for her), but what she needs may not correspond to what she wants.

What a horrifying truth.

Sometimes what we need is someone who is steadfast, consistent, in our lives, but we also want that consistent individual to take us totally by surprise and romance us with a passionate intensity that reminds us of why we fell in love with this person, and causes us to fall in love with him all over again. We don't want logic, deep analysis, during those moments, we want spontaneous emotional responses.

It's unnatural to have that duality for me. You're either one way or the other.
To ask this of a Virgo is just... too much.

We don't want you to think about what your next move is going to be, we just want you to go with the flow and make the next move that *feels* right and true and loving and special.

Haha, this is probably why Virgos are Bachelor's.

While we appreciate all of the helpfulness of what you virgos are known for, and try to show that appreciation to you, sometimes we don't want help, what we want is an act of love that would knock anyone's socks off. Sometimes you virgos can be pretty cerebral

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I am all about cerebral.
I guess this is why Virgos never think we are good enough...

Posted by Cajunspirit
This is a Facebook conversation handled through a Status I read on her profile. I have been monitoring all day.

My New Ex
no sleep , no appetite, tears that can't stop flowing and heart problems . bad romance * lady gaga*
2 hours ago via Facebook for BlackBerry

Friend1
u like drama huh girl
about an hour ago

My New Ex
Nope just a broken heart
about an hour ago

Friend1
aww, wat happened now.................
44 minutes ago

My New Ex
Waiting For someone to fight for love but I was set free so
7 minutes ago

What kind of sick game is this??!

This is the same kind of mumbo jumbo, mixed signal bullcrap that I always get.
"I wanted it, you were supposed to know" blah blah blah!

From someone that is not a Virgo!

From someone that is not a Virgo! From someone with experience!

Sometimes I find it so hard to communicate with my Virgo! And at the start that would be my answer for most things!
Lets Break up its not working, or why are you with me then just break up with me!

It took time for me to realise that of all things that was the worst way to deal with my troubles sometimes it was the only way i could
Get him to feel what im feeling! I found that virgo would listen on to my problems but I didn't feel as if I would receive a response! It was like
Ok yes im listening! But no don't expect me to sympathise or try to understand!

SO me as a stupid cancer! Would break up or as I say threaten the break up I felt like it was the only way he would take me seriously!
I also no a gemni who felt the same way! And would threaten her relationship!

The only thing that saved me was! Experience as I watch other family member mess up relationship because they did not know how to communicate!

What I realised is my virgo could not read my mind! I have to tell him straight out and exact when I have a problem!

I also had to explain to him that I didn't feel as if he was listening I felt like he didn't want to put effort in making our relationship work.

Virgo need to learn how to be abit more gently when it comes to the females! Because you guys are soo hard to understand! When dating a virgo I think that the male must must must express his feeling and reassure the female that he loves her and he is listening.. exp

Posted by shiinelikethemoon


Lets Break up its not working, or why are you with me then just break up with me!

It took time for me to realise that of all things that was the worst way to deal with my troubles sometimes it was the only way i could
Get him to feel what im feeling! I found that virgo would listen on to my problems but I didn't feel as if I would receive a response! It was like

Happy you finally saw the light.

Ok yes im listening! But no don't expect me to sympathise or try to understand!

Wow... we may not always try to symapthise... but trust me... we always try to understand.
At least, I do.

The only thing that saved me was! Experience as I watch other family member mess up relationship because they did not know how to communicate!

This is how Virgo and Cancer excel!
Amen!

What I realised is my virgo could not read my mind! I have to tell him straight out and exact when I have a problem!

HALLELUJAH!

Virgo need to learn how to be abit more gently when it comes to the females! Because you guys are soo hard to understand! When dating a virgo I think that the male must must must express his feeling and reassure the female that he loves her and he is listening.. exp

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I do that!!!

Posted by castorandpollux
Cajun,

From one Mercury-ruled person to another: If the Virgo motto is I don't say "I love you"; I show you through ACTION, then Cajun I don't see how this is inconsistent with Virgo's innately cerebral nature? What me, Kaleidoscorp, P-Angel are saying is just that: show her through ACTION, in this case: PASSION. If you put it to yourself that way it makes perfectly logical sense.

I always want to hug her, keep her close, hold her, touch her.
I kiss her on her forehead, I kiss her hands, I give her the stare all the time.

What more passion is there?
I am not one for grand showcases or spectacles. I find such things foolish

Here (I can't believe I'm doing this - You Virguys are something else lol), I'll put in syllogism format:

P1 - I don't tell you "I love you", I show you through ACTION;
P2 - ACTION is DOING - not thinking;
P3- ACTION includes PASSION - which is doing not thinking;
C - Therefore, I will show you through PASSION which is ACTION that "I LOVE YOU"

This girl had dental appointments, I went with her.
I hate crowds, but I went with her to rock concerts.
I did her errands with her.
I helped her family maintain there business.
I picked her up when her car was down.

What are these actions you speak of explicitly?

Now, the only difference bw Gem & Virgo is that you think "you are either one way or another". That is not true; every Gem you will ever meet will prove this assumption wrong for one thing.

Geminis are known for Duality, not Virgos.

For another, isn't there a sensitive, romantic soul inside every Virgo man just waiting to get out? *Yes*

Yes and that comes out during moments of privacy, much like the Sag.
I am very affectionate and have no problem with personal displays of affection in public.

the ingredients that make up PASSION. The third one is the ability to LET IT GO, NO WALLS, NO GUARD, NO HOLDS BARRED, NO INSECURITIES, SPONTANEITY.

Virgos are naturally insecure and spontaneity is just chaos in our view.

Now, if you were able to be spontaneous to attract your Sagg in the beginning, then what is holding you back now?

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It was a conscious act, it was unnatural, forced.

EMPATHY, which is what? EMOTIONS, which is what? ACTION, which

EMPATHY, which is what? EMOTIONS, which is what? ACTION, which is what? DOING? Do you see how it's all connected. So, returning to second point above: you are BOTH of these things, NOT "one or the other

Empathy isn't my thing, it's hers.

uh cajun we have duality we are mutable sign hence changeable want me 2 post a site that tells u virgos are dual people like the rest of the mutables.