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Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Im glad us Virgos usually dont bother to have anything serious with Scorpio women until these women are somewhat older. Young Scorpio women are just useless and irrational for the most part, better left alone to deal with their misery till they get themselves together.



I concur. Youngin scorp girls make me wanna wring their neck off. After they hit a level of maturity, they make me not wanna do that.
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Posted by PEITHO
Yet people say you have to lead Virgos I guess that's not entirely true.

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maybe thats one of the reasons Ive never really been with a Scorpio, I'll never allow myself to be controlled, plus I just have a natural inclination to take the lead in relationships

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maybe thats one of the reasons Ive never really been with a Scorpio, I'll never allow myself to be controlled, plus I just have a natural inclination to take the lead in relationships



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scorps are not always dom in a relationship. nuff said. Besides, you all get a kick from the occasional power struggle. Why else would you people get together with caps the most.
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Posted by PEITHO
Yeah I knew Virgos preferred Capricorns lol.

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maybe thats one of the reasons Ive never really been with a Scorpio, I'll never allow myself to be controlled, plus I just have a natural inclination to take the lead in relationships



😄 you have no idea what you are truly missing



scorps are not always dom in a relationship. nuff said. Besides, you all get a kick from the occasional power struggle. Why else would you people get together with caps the most.

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yea... girly, read my post and see what I wrote again.
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All the mutable signs need someone to guide them to a certain extent... we're willing to do anything.

It's only been with virgos, pisces, geminis, and sags where we'll hang out but have no idea what to do since the options are limitless. The other signs, for the most part, always know what they want and can lead the way, we'll go with it. Otherwise we're content. Feel free to disagree, of course other chart placements play a part.

As for accepting others flaws, of course. Those little flaws are part of what makes anyone special, and usually it's the most lovable trait about them. Being keenly aware of my own imperfections, why would I shun someone else for theirs?

Most Capricorns are too controlling and self-centered for me... Fun to joke with and partake in lighthearted chatter. Discussing work matters. But as soon as things get emotional on your end there's no comfort. Meanwhile, they expect you to constantly be there for them otherwise you're cut off.. they do make up for it with their thoughtfulness.



that's not necessarily true about mutable suns, because i knew a pisces sun girl in the past who liked to "LEAD". i wasn't into astrology then, but she was always in control and in the lead. She pre-plans things and hates it when plans don't go right/in her way. Every sun sign is so very different at the end of the day. If you spend alot of time recognizing these things in life with who you interact with, and remember their bdays you'd see how different everyone is.

but then again, i always forget that perhaps you're just focusing on the "mutable" aspects. As well as saying that capricorns are too controlling (for their signature is control)
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.... is how they are so accepting of other people. These creatures have mastered the art of turning the other cheek, when it involves a person's flaws and I really like that quality about them.


note: I'm not talking about dumb fucks who have no accountability for themselves and spent half their time babbling, "don't judge" because they have sense of integrity.


I'm talking about flaws .... physical, mental, emotional shortcomings.


These people will live their entire lives embracing your imperfections with loyalty and love ... and I really like this quality they have. I wish more people would want to aspire to develop this kind of realness.



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The typical posters who come in here and talk about leading Virgos aren't married to one, lol. (Yes, I know there is at least one exception.)

Some Virgos have married Scorps, and no doubt all of the other signs, so what? It doesn't mean anything is wrong with Cancers or you personally. If you go back far enough and read through again, I think you'll see that Scorps weren't exactly being promoted.





i could never tell who LEADS in my sister's relationship with her virgo man. It's so subtle.

but, i can see that he will ALLOW her to lead if he wants her to. But if he doesn't want something, he won't budge.

so the truth is, you can't make a man do anything unless he wants you to.
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Rather than sun, I believe the inclination for leading or not leading in relationships has more to do with your Mars/Venus signs and probably moon sign too to a lesser degree. I have Venus/Mars in Leo; in a group of friends' setting Im more often than not the one coming up with something fun to do and actually having a concrete plan to do it, and actually BEING into it! Thats how people will follow you, people follow enthusiasm and passion.
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but, i can see that he will ALLOW her to lead if he wants her to. But if he doesn't want something, he won't budge.

so the truth is, you can't make a man do anything unless he wants you to.








why have you confused leading with control?

Virgos are service oriented, and they show their love for you by assisting you, by picking up the pieces for you ... in order to do this, he has to follow you in order to know what to do for you.

For some reason, you have twisted the meaning of leading, and are talking about control. Why is that? Where did this misconception come from?
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but, i can see that he will ALLOW her to lead if he wants her to. But if he doesn't want something, he won't budge.

so the truth is, you can't make a man do anything unless he wants you to.





why have you confused leading with control?

Virgos are service oriented, and they show their love for you by assisting you, by picking up the pieces for you ... in order to do this, he has to follow you in order to know what to do for you.

For some reason, you have twisted the meaning of leading, and are talking about control. Why is that? Where did this misconception come from?
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i didnt say anything about control with that. I said LEADING. Control is a "negative" connotation.

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All the mutable signs need someone to guide them to a certain extent... we're willing to do anything.

It's only been with virgos, pisces, geminis, and sags where we'll hang out but have no idea what to do since the options are limitless. The other signs, for the most part, always know what they want and can lead the way, we'll go with it. Otherwise we're content. Feel free to disagree, of course other chart placements play a part.

As for accepting others flaws, of course. Those little flaws are part of what makes anyone special, and usually it's the most lovable trait about them. Being keenly aware of my own imperfections, why would I shun someone else for theirs?

Most Capricorns are too controlling and self-centered for me... Fun to joke with and partake in lighthearted chatter. Discussing work matters. But as soon as things get emotional on your end there's no comfort. Meanwhile, they expect you to constantly be there for them otherwise you're cut off.. they do make up for it with their thoughtfulness.



that's not necessarily true about mutable suns, because i knew a pisces sun girl in the past who liked to "LEAD". i wasn't into astrology then, but she was always in control and in the lead. She pre-plans things and hates it when plans don't go right/in her way. Every sun sign is so very different at the end of the day. If you spend alot of time recognizing these things in life with who you interact with, and remember their bdays you'd see how different everyone is.

but then again, i always forget that perhaps you're just focusing on the "mutable" aspects. As well as saying that capricorns are too controlling (for their signature is control)
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Perhaps, P, you were referring to THIS. Where i mentioned about someone who in the past led, and was always in control. I got that feeling from her, and maybe it's because she was dominant Capricorn *shrug* It's not always a bad thing, as long as they aren't intrusive about other people's lives.
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http://zodiac-signs-astrology.com/zodiac-signs/capricorn.htm

Capricorn in a Nutshell:

Capricorns are very ambitious people, they always have something they are pursuing and they want their lives to be fulfilled and important. Capricorns are extremely patient and will wait a long time for something they want, when the opportunity arises, they will plan their steps carefully to others, they might appear hesitant but this is not true, they know that there is only one chance to succeed and they are filing together their information to take the proper steps to accomplish their goal with flying colors, not just second rate. Capricorns have a very active mind and strong powers of concentration. Capricorns like being in control of their surroundings and everyone in their life. Capricorns are very cautious but this only to survey the situation before leaping in, they will never make a hasty jump in. They accept change but introduce it slowly so they can get used to it and incorporate it into their life. Capricorns tend to see life in black or white, definitive's only. There are no gray areas for these are areas that are not understood and this makes Capricorn feel uncomfortable. They tend to be in control in a romantic relationship that way they are never vulnerable to another person."

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that could be what control means, and someone with strong capricorn energy in their chart could have that. A virgo could have that as well.
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.... if he doesn't want something, he won't budge.

so the truth is, you can't make a man do anything unless he wants you to.







I understand that you didn't use the word "control" .... but, the above describes it.

If a person is thinking in terms of (making) someone do something they don't want to do, then that is describing control, it doesn't describe being a leader.

so, that is why I addressed this with you.

I'm unclear where this came from.

this thread is about the beautiful quality of the Virgo who will look beyond and accept the imperfections of their people.
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.... if he doesn't want something, he won't budge.

so the truth is, you can't make a man do anything unless he wants you to.




I understand that you didn't use the word "control" .... but, the above describes it.
If a person is thinking in terms of (making) someone do something they don't want to do, then that is describing control, it doesn't describe being a leader.
so, that is why I addressed this with you.
I'm unclear where this came from.
this thread is about the beautiful quality of the Virgo who will look beyond and accept the imperfections of their people.
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oh ok. I get that. And i actually agree with you. No one should be "forced" to do something they don't want to. You're right, it doesn't describe a leader.
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It seems that a lot of people don't quite get this concept. These people who don't get it, are the ones wanting to control their Virgo.


It's very simple ... if you're genuine, and your intentions aren't nefarious or controlling, then the Virgo will overlook your imperfections and will deem you worthy of them, in whatever capacity of relating is appropriate.


You see it day by day .... but, to see it, the person has to be real, and stop trying to game them.
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here is a pretty good analysis on virgo:

http://zodiac-signs-astrology.com/zodiac-signs/virgo.htm

Virgo Deep Inside:

They need to be organized in their mind, sometimes all their energy is taken from organizing their mind that they have a difficult time organizing their surroundings. They easily look too deep into an issue and over analyze what they percept. Virgo is ambitious and strives to always know more and have more. This is in their eternal quest to bring order to chaos. Even if order is obtained from an outsiders' point of view, Virgo will not be settled for they have a very active mind that is always thinking and can never be silenced. Virgos want to be of use, they need to be important and essential to everyone in their lives and in everything they do. Virgo's major life lesson is to learn to trust in and have faith in the unknown. They have to understand that things in life happen for a reason that is not always known to them, they do not have to always know everything. They need to learn to calm down and not over-analyze a situation or event. Deep inside, Virgo is very sensitive and they need to be appreciated for all the things they do. When is Virgo is offended or hurt, they may never show it.
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in whatever capacity of relating is appropriate.



I think this is where people constantly get offended with Virgos. A lot of people have an exact expectation on where they fit in someone's life and Virgos don't work like that. We look for people to be self aware with themselves first and foremost. Then we see how we can relate to them.

I'd wager there's a lot of naivete and zero amount of malice in Virgo dealings with people. If we see we're not up to par with what people want..we just walk away. Which leaves people feeling rejected and scorned.

We just genuinely enjoy someone's company or we don't. And if we don't..it's not an insult to your entire character. We just feel we don't belong there so we part ways.
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I'd wager there's a lot of naivete and zero amount of malice in Virgo dealings with people. If we see we're not up to par with what people want..we just walk away. Which leaves people feeling rejected and scorned.
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I would only partially agree with that. Probably in the beginning when we are totally focussed and enchanted learning all the ins and outs of a new person, we can be quite naive and without malice, however once we feel comfortable with the person we can be a little manipulative (sometimes unconsciously) where we know how far we can push others just enough not to turn them against us and still managing to have them see things our way.
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It's not good to manipulate people.

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I'd wager there's a lot of naivete and zero amount of malice in Virgo dealings with people. If we see we're not up to par with what people want..we just walk away. Which leaves people feeling rejected and scorned.




I would only partially agree with that. Probably in the beginning when we are totally focussed and enchanted learning all the ins and outs of a new person, we can be quite naive and without malice, however once we feel comfortable with the person we can be a little manipulative (sometimes unconsciously) where we know how far we can push others just enough not to turn them against us and still managing to have them see things our way.

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I know, thats why I said "unconsciously" we have a never-ending flux of thoughts and sometimes things come out that we didnt really intend to but only realize later on they were kinda manipulative. We are weird like that.
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I'd wager there's a lot of naivete and zero amount of malice in Virgo dealings with people. If we see we're not up to par with what people want..we just walk away. Which leaves people feeling rejected and scorned.




I would only partially agree with that. Probably in the beginning when we are totally focussed and enchanted learning all the ins and outs of a new person, we can be quite naive and without malice, however once we feel comfortable with the person we can be a little manipulative (sometimes unconsciously) where we know how far we can push others just enough not to turn them against us and still managing to have them see things our way.
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I agree with you on being manipulative but I think we define it differently than..Scorpios for example. The thing is the bottom line for it..we don't strive to harm anyone. It's not in our motivation. I've seen Virgos go very far to prove a point and they loathed themselves otherwise. Honesty is more up our alley.

The things you mention as manipulative are mostly teasing/banter for me. Obviously, no 2 Virgos are alike.

I'm just saying that underneath it all..we aren't the type to set out to harm anyone.
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lol @ when I think Scorpio negative things come to mind.

Not really like that. When I have good rapport with that sign..it's awesome. When not..not that awesome.

Like every other sign.

I'll say this though..seeing genuinity and tenderness in a Scorpio is amazing. People under that sign who showcase that..are awesome.

When it comes to wavelengths I'm closest to Aries and Pisces though.
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lol @ when I think Scorpio negative things come to mind.

Not really like that. When I have good rapport with that sign..it's awesome. When not..not that awesome.

Like every other sign.

I'll say this though..seeing genuinity and tenderness in a Scorpio is amazing. People under that sign who showcase that..are awesome.

When it comes to wavelengths I'm closest to Aries and Pisces though.




I actually kind of agree with Evil Taurus

Im not attracted to scorpio energy at all; it seems their first instinct when it comes to new people/idea's or situations is to distrust and be suspicious. Im too trusting for their liking, I think they find me suspicious because Im a very open person and trust that others are being the same with me, I open myself to the world instead of being paranoid thinking that everyone out there is out to get me.
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lol @ when I think Scorpio negative things come to mind.

Not really like that. When I have good rapport with that sign..it's awesome. When not..not that awesome.

Like every other sign.

I'll say this though..seeing genuinity and tenderness in a Scorpio is amazing. People under that sign who showcase that..are awesome.

When it comes to wavelengths I'm closest to Aries and Pisces though.




I actually kind of agree with Evil Taurus

Im not attracted to scorpio energy at all; it seems their first instinct when it comes to new people/idea's or situations is to distrust and be suspicious. Im too trusting for their liking, I think they find me suspicious because Im a very open person and trust that others are being the same with me, I open myself to the world instead of being paranoid thinking that everyone out there is out to get me.
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I'm the same way as you are about opening up.

But the Cancer in me likes Scorpio qualities too. That hurt to type out. It's just..very specific Scorpio qualities. None of the stalker vibes, obsessive behavior, severe distrust etc. Wait..I think there are no other Scorpio qualities left.

j/k. Integrity in a Scorpio is strong if they posess it. I like that.
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I think this is where people constantly get offended with Virgos. A lot of people have an exact expectation on where they fit in someone's life and Virgos don't work like that.






Yes and no.

It's agreed that people (mostly females) have already planned in their head/heart of how they want to be loved .... and then place this expectation onto another person. And this day and age, due to poor parenting trends, where people are raised without having to develop sound judgment skills for themselves and so they have no proper gauge of right or wrong. They just do whatever the fuck they want to, and then cry "don't judge me". It's sad, really.

It's a no wonder these people just hop from one protest to another, without any plans on how to rectify the issue. They just tear it all up, and then go home to mommy who will wash their clothes for them, feed them and tell them nothing is ever their fault.

Anyway, I'll digress from that tangent and voice my disagreement with the statement.

I think it's all people who are appalled by having expectations on them, not just Virgo's (see tangent above about a lack of accountability). Once a person realizes that they are a character in their head, playing a part ... they're gone. And for the life of me, my literal mind cannot understand why this concept is so hard to grasp.

they play both sides, and still are oblivious to/of themselves .... almost like we are growing a whole generation of sociopaths.


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We just want to gauge how real a person is. I don't even think we do tests..we watch for consistency in behavior throughout time.

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I can attest to this after spending the last 32 years experiencing a Virgo husband. And observing him with other people. He watches people all the time, closely. There's no action taken on his part in any direction, once a conclusion has been made about the person, except continue to relate, or not continue.

There is nothing in his words or actions in which suggests that his intent is to maneuver a field of play .... rather he will replace himself in a position of getting a better vantage point for the sake of looking closer.

Still though .... I've never seen a game in him on me or anyone else. In fact, I see the opposite. He is very forg
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There's no action taken on his part in any direction, once a conclusion has been made about the person, except continue to relate, or not continue.

There is nothing in his words or actions in which suggests that his intent is to maneuver a field of play .... rather he will replace himself in a position of getting a better vantage point for the sake of looking closer.



Yeah, that's what I see too. We look closer but it's not for us to draw a benefit by interfering. We just look and engage that person if we feel we're on the same wavelength. I let people be themselves and I only make a judgment if I can associate myself with them or not. If they have integrity and are real. Even if the "Real" part comes with flaws..as long as it's real, I respect that.
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Why do you say he's just fronting? I don't see why it's a big deal? Everyone knows that Virgo and Taurus go well together. Whether it be as friends, lovers, associates etc.

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Anyway Boom, you're just fronting like always. If you'd find a nice Scorpio woman that whole mindset would change. You'd be thick as thieves.

I always see Virgo Men with Scorpio and Pisces Women. I like both combos.

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I'm teasing Boom. Never said Taurus and Virgo don't match.
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Anyway Boom, you're just fronting like always. If you'd find a nice Scorpio woman that whole mindset would change. You'd be thick as thieves.

I always see Virgo Men with Scorpio and Pisces Women. I like both combos.




Fronting? pff whats that?

Of course Im not saying that I cant be friends with Scorpios, in fact I have a few and respect their qualities just the same, Im just saying they arent the people I like to have around the most..

I know for certain Im not compatible with a Scorpio relationship-wise, I know myself too well for that, not that I consciously avoid any particular sun signs, cause thats pointless, but it just happens that I dont attract them that much romance-wise, lately I attract lots of Taurus, Gemini and Aqua women, and the odd Cancer woman here and there.

Im more optimistic about Pisces, and it usually starts well with them, eventually I lose interest cause they are simply too passive and draining for my liking.
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I'm not attacking that. I'm just discussing ideas which should be dettached from the person they belong to.




We like to delude ourselves into expecting that people HAVE to adjust to that train of thought, lately Ive been questioning myself as to whether it really is true or not that you can actually detach yourself from the ideas youre discussing, if one is discussing a particular issue, I guess the root of it is an emotional/passionate interest in it, so that idea is still debatable.
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I'm not attacking that. I'm just discussing ideas which should be dettached from the person they belong to.




We like to delude ourselves into expecting that people HAVE to adjust to that train of thought, lately Ive been questioning myself as to whether it really is true or not that you can actually detach yourself from the ideas youre discussing, if one is discussing a particular issue, I guess the root of it is an emotional/passionate interest in it, so that idea is still debatable.
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Well you cannot dettach because they are your ideas and obviously everyone puts passion into what they believe in.

But the reaction to someone else's different train of thought can be helped. And if you can master not to react in knee-jerk fashion, there's an understanding on the middle ground. Unfortunately Virgos are a little extremistic in views so that middle ground..we'll keep trying to have it closer to us. There's a safety to Virgo ego in us feeling we're always right and I think that safety needs to be removed to gain clarity. Doing my best..but I'm still human.

It takes a lot for my fire placements to not see it as me vs them. Trying to look at the bigger picture.
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Theres much to learn even from those who dont "love" you, just because people dont love you doesnt mean they hate you and this is a difficult concept for Scorpios since they are so black/white in their thinking. Not every human who doesnt kiss your ass can be considered as not worthy of your time of day, theres great potential for self-reflection when we are confronted with people who are not in our same wavelength, we can learn something from everybody.
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OB virgos and scorpios are one of the best matches for each other. though some virgos like to pretend that's not the case. but those two signs end up married or in long term commitments moreso than they do with most other signs. it's just the way it works.

trust me i wish that taurus and virgo worked as wonderfully as scorpio and virgo. 😢




Virgo scorpio has never worked for me.

Virgo taurus on the other hand has worked for me many times.