When virgos retreat.... (Page 2)

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Whats your argument to that??

lol. We'll she's already labeled me insane so it's her own fault for putting her mind with a crazy person. I love when a crazy person calls you crazy. It always makes me laugh so hard.

Hahahahahahahaha

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P- don't be jelouse that I have a life and you don't. And that you need to keep track of other peoples affairs because of how boring or non existant your own are. hahahahahahahah

dy thats hilariouse. You think the Feds are gonna send a swat team to my door now because I smarted off to her?

oh no please not Big Foot Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. lol

If you say so, I still feel you have been conditioned to be a certain way, I Know that Virgo's don't express themselves well, but thats their nature anyway, but you said that ppl have told you, you are to emotional yada,yada and you have handled things according to how they would want you too..Also I am not sure from what I have heard or read in your post even if you had a girl that was on the up and up and truley cared for you, you would not know how to tell her your feelings anyway...


lmao, then I suppose the point of retorting your self-fulfilling prophesy is what if you already stake the odds against me? lmao, silliness....I suppose I needn't even try to express myself to a person who's be 'logically conditioned' to believe what she reads...you're a pisces right? lol gullible fishes....someone really aught to monitor your reading privledges lol. I've got plenty of people who counter that notion, I still express myself openly, but with time. A human being whos been hurt emotionally, who gives from the bottom of their heart and is betrayed so bitterly will become bitter, until they pull themselves out of it. I'm getting there star, I'm only 18, and most adolescents aren't even this cognitive let alone this emotionally acute/aware. Throw me a bone here, I've still got time to grow up, and that's my problem for better and for worse. I've grown up, and I can't get any older than what I am, so it's better to just enjoy life. You would agree correct?.

take a chance starfish; you're Virguy/gal maybe out there...sounds like you're as bitter as me if you've given up the good fight? Makes you look hypocritical. Or are you going to keep at it? Either way it's your loss, becuase I've been in relationships, and I haven't heard ANY complaints, except that I was too extroverted. I'm still only 18. I've got a whole life left to live, hell to begin, I don't want to settle down just yet. When I get lonely/hungry for love, I'll come in from the cold.

people in life, are different than the zodiac in theory. I hate it becuase it really dosen't capsulate me at all. Virgo deserves a deeper look....

"sounds like you're as bitter as me if you've given up the good fight? Makes you look hypocritical. Or are you going to keep at it? Either way it's your loss, becuase I've been in relationships, and I haven't heard ANY complaints, except that I was too extroverted."

"I'm still only 18."


rflmao

Hey, SF .. I know, I was sitting here thinking, "A Virgo fathered her children, yet, that doesn't qualify her for knowing one on a deep enough level to make her own assessment?". lol, what a hoot.

"So I don't feel the loss at all perhaps they do..."

This is a huge problem and likely the biggest culprit as to why people suffer when trying to date one .. they cannot let go from past relationships. When it's over, it's over, as it should be. How else is a person suppose to grow and evolve if they don't deal with their feelings? To the Virgo, they carry it around like Herpes to poison them for all eternity, so when another woman finds herself attracted to him, he backs off, because he never dealt with the pain from the last encounter with a woman.

There's just no winning with them ..

If you give into THEIR push and pull game .. then you are weak, because you aren't standing up for your own principals. Don't you make your own choices? Aren't you determined enough to know what is right for you? If you give in and play this game of (thiers) of push and pull, then they don't deem you worthy enough .. because that shows weakness on your part. You must then be a player.

If you don't give into THIER push and pull game .. then you're bitter, you're not being sensitive enough to their feelings. Don't you care about them enough to stick it out until they decide if your worthy or not? That must mean you didn't love them enough in the first place. I mean, if you don't recognize a good thing when you have it (them), then your not good enough. Or, they will put on their puppy-dog faces and be all gooey and sappy, in an attempt to win you back over, just so they can play the first game with you.

lol, and the thing is .. they cause the whole thing by not just dealing with their feelings. The above are actual scenerio examples that women come in here all the time to express .. and the whole problem, the culprit is because instead of dealing with thier feelings appropriately, they ignore the work because it hurts too bad and instead carry them around to visit on the next woman just happens to fall prey to them .. look at what VE said, you're bitter, SF. No, you're not bitter, your conveying the experience as you saw it, as you felt it, as you remember it .. that's not bitter, but, to the Virgo who has no clue that experience does not equal failure if it ends, has no way to look at it except a feeling of bitterness because they haven't allowed growth beyond.

And this isn't just intimate relationships either .. if someone has hurt the Virgo in their youth, or any time .. they will puke it back up everytime they see the person, or their name gets mentioned. It's sad really, because they're being left behind .. most everyone else has the desire to push forward, evolve, find joy in success rather than relish on feelings that bring them pain.

They will never understand this, Starfish .. for to understand means that they will actually have to deal with their own feelings themselves. They won't do that .. it's easy (and cowardly) to just cast the responsibility onto another person and attempt to force them into being accountable to their feelings for them.

"one time he shouted over the phone you never loved me anyway"

In other words .. he is feeling the way he is because it's your fault.

We are responsible for our own feelings .. if we are hurt, for whatever reason, it is our own choice whether we find resolution so we can gain experience; or whether we continue to put the blame on another person, so we don't have to have a life-lesson.

Mine does similar things to me all the time, but, I refuse to take responsibility for his feelings. They are his, not mine .. and he's responsible for his own. I don't make him own up to mine and absolutley refuse to take his .. for instance, there will be times when there is silence, while we're driving down the road and he'll say something like, "Why won't you talk to me?"

Do you see what this means? He wants to talk about something, and I have some sort of fault in this because I'm not talking to him.

I say, "If I had something to say, I would say it." Then remain perfectly silent.

Him, "What is that suppose to mean?"

Me, "Exactly what I said. If I have something to say, I say exactly what it is."


He just pouts and makes faces, and gets all pissy .. because he wanted to talk and instead of being responsibile for himself .. he will ask why I'm not talking to him .. like, it's my responsibility to look inside his head and find out what it is he needs to say, lol

I just won't do it .. if he says, "You don't love me", all whinny, I just say, "ok" .. "Ok", he says, "so you don't love?" he'll ask .. I'll say, "You stated a conclusion, I was agreeing." and then shut up and refuse to go any further with it.

SF .. I've found that all past relationships I've had with people, these people continue to try and stay in my life. They are forever trying to win me back. People don't realize until after they have lost their Pisces, that we aren't players. At the time, they think we are, because we are so very emotional and men have it programmed into them that this is a manipulation. But, after we're gone, they realize we are emotional because we are sensitive and it has nothing to do with trying to trick them into an emotional manipulation, like other women. For if it was .. we would throw a display for attention, instead of just letting them walk away. If you don't want us, then just walk .. at this point is when they begin to realize.

If we're feeling something, then we are really feeling it, it's not for the purpose of getting the man to give us attention .. in fact, most Pisces women I know cry alone and don't want to burden their man with her tears.

These men realize this once we're gone and are dealing with women who throw dramatic fits to gain attention or jealousy .. they realize that our aim was only to love and nothing more .. we are just emotionally driven.

We are responsible for our own emotions and expect the man to be also .. once this dawns on the man, he tries to come back .. always.

"Only way that I can have some peace seems from his stuff is if I cut all communication even when it comes to our son, bc he has even tried to use our son to get close to me"


That's just not right, SF .. your child is NOT responsible for his feelings. Virgo men are just crap when it comes to being responsible for their feelings .. and I don't blame you if you decide to cut all communication because your child shouldn't have to suffer any emotional damage because his father can't handle his own.

Every man, SF .. every single one of them still tries to win me back.

I don't cry in front of men either .. because I know it's my emotional burden to bear, not thiers.

I didn't realize your son was a Pisces, if you mentioned it before, I've forgotten .. it's doubly important then to keep him emotionally balanced.

My son is Scorpio and, also, it was important, since his water makes him more emotional than others. Through his youth, my husband attempted to throw him off balance by pressuring him into grudges, vengence, and manipulations, which isn't good at all, since Scorpio's are begrudging by nature. I just refused to allow it .. if he's sad, he's allowed to cry, that holds no bearing on his future manhood .. if he's angry, he's allowed to vent and the Virgo would NOT critisize him about losing composure .. whatever the emotion was, he was encouraged to express it, so he could then later, after his rational mind sifted in, to look at the situation objectively. Thing is .. if he wasn't allowed to embrace his emotions then he wouldn't be able to look at what happened objectively and put it into perspective because it would still be tormenting him.

My Virgo husband was not allowed to have any emotional influence over my Scorpio son .. because he isn't capable of it. So, I know exactly where you are coming from, SF.

"The best thing that he has taught my son is to share, I like that he tells him all the time share with ppl you have enough"

That's awesome .. what a wonderful character trait to want to instill into his child. Sharing is easy for Pisces .. I'm sure your son is eager to follow that guidance.


Wasn't it a song (country, I think) .. about God's greatest gift is an unanswered prayer?

A soulful connection with another .. 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 .. Piscean Paradise.

Awe, that's so precious .. he's going to be a humanitarian.

Not so precious on your grocery bill, though 😉

It's the Piscean job in life to make sure everybody is fed, clothed and warm .. apparantly this is instinct, for he's just a baby and already he's thinking about making his friends feel cared for.

Astrology aside folks, being big people now, (meaning astrology isn't as important as just interacting with a person) People are people. They've got their flaws, they've got their gifts, why allow an astrological profile to limit/restrict your potential ability? It's like saying you'll never be any better than what is said about you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it usually up to the person to control/forsee their own destiny/choices in life? Being a Virgo, or Pisces, ect, shouldn't even compare in importance. If all I was WAS a Virgo and y'all know the traits, I'd be missing out on many things I've already got inside of me. They're nothing more than pictures/symbols that depict some idea someone created long ago. I know that courage, and confidence lies in anyone who desires it. Anyone with a cause to fight for will keep coming back. If all you adults can understand from me is my damned birthday, than I suppose I'd be better off somewhere else.....to think that y'all actually know each other just because you know each others signs!!!! It's precisely that reason why you DON'T know each other and that's why everyone gets offended! Because what's been going around isn't fully truth!!....we're all individuals and have our own personalities, outside of the zoidiacs control/descriptions....why do you adults/people forget that?

*VE exits to stage left in tearful confession* roflmao!! 😛

c'mon people we've got to do better....isn't that the whole reason we're on here? To discuss what matters to us, and whom we are to ultimately do better? If there was one person on this website that wasn't as narcissistic as the another, than that person wouldn't get heard at all!! If we're going to get to the bottom of anything (That's why people discuss things, to accomplish something by realizing the aim) we've got to learn to tolerate other peoples differences; not saying anybody's gotta kiss ass, just understand that they've got THEIR way and you have YOURS.

I mean this all seems pointless....I know y'all will probably side step what I've got to say, but seriously, we're all going to get to working it out sooner or later, so it may as well be sooner huh?.

My parents are the most materialistic people (gemini mother scorpion father) I've met, and I wasn't at all. They told me 'You're just perfect, we know not to worry about you' translation: 'your fine the way you are, you don't need our attention, so why should we give it?'I suppose a human being wants what they don't have access to, but my point is, a person's development is on them, and after a certain point, you learn to think and draw inferences on your own. I grew up pretty decent if I say so myself despite my harsh childhood. I won't go into detail just know it was depressing, and it would break ANY kids spirit and belief in a higher power, but I perserved becuase I believed that there was something better out there...I didn't know it for a fact, but I knew becuase if there was bad in the world there HAD to be good! If I have a problem it's becuase I'm trying to reconcile with an unfortunate past, to make a better future for myself. To be young and to realize you're not loved unless 'certain conditions' are met is painful; not to mention that you aren't easily understood by your peers it makes life isolating and cold....star, everyone, I'm trying to get past the bs in my life in order to be the whole person I am....but I know it starts with me, and in that I know I'm the master of my destiny.

.........not some stupid ass horoscope....screw that I gotta say people are better off with out 'em. At least it let's people show who they REALLY are without the restriction of labels and description. The only restriction I ran across came from listening to the nonsense of an astrologer who dosen't even know me as a person, yet feels as though they can label me what they wish.....talk about verbal abuse!

Virgoexalted, you fascinate me and therefore I keep returning to the dxp although I have no time for it. "I am a Virgo, take it or leave" you wrote. I cannot believe you're 18 and I have difficulty to believe you're a Virgo. However, reading about your unfortunate childhood, it could have left you with bitterness. There is so much emotion in you and life philosophy, it's almost unbelievable. But I also feel hate and anger in you. The astrologers say that Scorpios are most emotional people of the zodiac. It is not so. Some Virgos are as emotional except that Virgo's don't show it. Even though our pain lasts forever in some cases, we suppress the feeling, while Scorpios explode. They throw it directly into your face together with their revenge. My whole life was one big misery and yet, I don't know feeling of hate nor anger. These two characteristics can ruin your life. Try to consume these two killers and start thinking positively about good things only. And think big! Don't waste your time with anything that doesn't bring you fruit (Americans say "roses"). The time flies. With your special intellect you can fly as high as to the sky. Think of happy future, not the past. This moment, as you are reading my letter, is already "past". Do you understand? Meditation is the most profound healer. If everybody meditated on peace and happiness, the whole world would be that way. I wish Bush meditated and all the others similar to him. Unfortunately, one can't even move their brains, not mentioning their feelings.

You wrote: "I think of myself as an activist, and humanitarian". That is a Virgo-like thinking as we were born with this damn feeling. This feeling will only bring more bitterness into your life. You cannot change the world, you cannot change human kind. Believe me, I was there all my life. One day you look back and you'll find emptiness and question mark "where the time went and what have I achieved?". If you are really humanitarian, let the world know your beautiful ideas. You live in a free country where anything is possible. Write a book. You are a born writer and I am sure you'll find the best plot. Or prepare yourself for a political career. If you achieve it without allowing your feelings being swayed by the wrong people, or money, you can bring humanity and prosperity to your country, to people of the future

Wow, I am so glad I am not dating a Virgo anymore. Life is so much better now. I don't have the emotional rollercoaster bull that I had when I did date one. Yea, for me! Peace, finally.