air moons going along to get along and trouble being assertive...?

i was wondering if other air moons or suns even (libra, gemini, aquarius) have ever had any issues being assertive/being too adaptable and accommodating in situations....? (mostly during childhood and also sometimes in adulthood?)

were you always able to voice your opinions assertively or did you have this "go along to get along" mentality and kinda hesitated to cause any commotion ('cause you were worried about what people thought)...?

did you also ever have a tendency to unnecessarily add "lol" at the end of your opinions or sentences in general when texting people or posting online, because you weren't confident enough in your own thoughts and opinions?

i remember when i was a kid, i would constantly try to read the temperature/vibe of the room before speaking and was really worried about saying the "wrong" thing.

i had this whole "go along to get along" mentality about most trivial, everyday things. (also, when you're the oldest of three, you kinda get used to putting your younger siblings' needs ahead of your own and it was hard to have too many opinions in the house run by an authoritarian father 😅)

despite all of that, i knew how to be assertive in certain situations that called for assertiveness (for example, if some kid was getting bullied in front me, i had no problem at all stepping in 😅 fire signs unfortunately have tempers that go from zero to life in prison when we see injustice 😅 jk jk) also i didn't give into too much peer pressure either...?

so all in all, i guess it worked out but i still had a lot of anxiety about saying what's really on my mind for most of my childhood, teens, and early twenties...like until about 23...

i'm wondering if other air moons/air suns had issues with being too adaptable, agreeable or issues with being assertive in any way...?

Posted by serenidad

did you also ever have a tendency to unnecessarily add "lol" at the end of your opinions or sentences in general when texting people or posting online, because you weren't confident enough in your own thoughts and opinions?

there's an awkward story behind this.

many years ago, i was texting my partner and out of nowhere he was like "say something without putting lol at the end" and i was like "what do you mean" and he was like "say a statement."

at this point i was like wtf

but he went on to say, "i've never seen you say a statement with boldness. you're always putting a question mark or lol at the end of your sentences. it makes you sound like you're not confident in your own opinions. people won't take you seriously if you talk like that all the time."

he told me to say what's on my mind without appearing unsure.

i changed the way i talked from that day forward haha

I always thought this was a libra rising thing. And yes I do have that "go along to get along" mentality. I only do this to avoid getting into shit with people. I like to keep the peace even if it means to agree with them.

Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter

I always thought this was a libra rising thing. And yes I do have that "go along to get along" mentality. I only do this to avoid getting into shit with people. I like to keep the peace even if it means to agree with them.

what's your moon sign (if you don't mind me asking) ?

a few months back, i kinda remember you mentioning something about feeling misunderstood by people when you talk...?

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I always thought this was a libra rising thing. And yes I do have that "go along to get along" mentality. I only do this to avoid getting into shit with people. I like to keep the peace even if it means to agree with them.

what's your moon sign (if you don't mind me asking) ?

a few months back, i kinda remember you mentioning something about feeling misunderstood by people when you talk...?

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Gemini

I feel misunderstood when I write on here even. A perfect example of that would be hendo misunderstanding me amongst others. Everybody take everything i say at heart when i dont mean to hurt nobody. So thats why I try to just stay quiet.

Yes I do this. I think it is a learned behavior from how my stepdad would not allow me to speak my opinion. If I am in a situation where I cannot express, don’t feel comfortable I will shut down and not express at all. So that always making sure all is ok before expressing, making sure it’s safe to.. is that a trauma response or is that the moon? Idk I do better when people are good listeners. And have had to work on speaking & sharing even when not comfy to get through that problem & communicate better.

Also I do better expressing my thoughts via writing. Aqua moon.

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Why is it, in recent years, dxpers are so intent on ignoring a specific personal placement (e.g. rising or Mars) because they desperately want the issue to be linked to something else (e.g. moon)?

Stubbornly seeking validation for delusional ideas, it seems...

my rising sign is leo (i used to think for the longest time i was a virgo rising but turns out my dad had the wrong birth time 😂 lol) i was born at 3:01pm. the reason for this topic was i asked two of my best friends who are also air moons (libra moon and aqua moon) and they said they felt similar growing up and even now at times. i also think my problem was psychological (not all related to astrology)

i was often told by my father, "you don't know what you want." even when i did....it's just that sometimes, my wants and needs didn't exactly fit in with his idea of what he thought was best for me.

so at some point, i kinda started second-guessing myself. asking myself questions like "well, what if he's right..?"

he's a capricorn and i feel like maybe in his eyes, i appeared kinda indecisive, head-in-the-clouds at times...

Posted by cersei

When I was younger I had a friend who was kind of a follower and wanted to be friends with everyone and be liked by everyone. Even though I guess it’s a good thing she was so outgoing and happy go lucky, I on the other hand was frustrated with this because I felt she was kissing up to people who seemed to not want to talk to her. And I remember telling her, why do you bother pushing yourself on people that seem annoyed with you talking to them? And it’s bad on my part because I was a bit too extreme in that way where I would prefer to be alone than feel like my presence wasnt wanted and like I was a nuisance. And that’s why I was particular with who I spoke to.

She was a Gemini Sun Taurus moon. She was much more extraverted than me though, and she thought having more friends the merrier. I have always been more introverte, and didn't need nor want a whole bunch of friends. I was okay with just one or two good friends.

Despite me not really liking the “crowd” I was still afraid to express my likes, opinions, etc and would often keep them to myself. I didn’t like conflict and confrontation and it made me nervous. So in a way I was passive but also not at the same time. When someone was being mean I had no problem putting it down lol I was a bit feisty at times

It wasn’t until I got towards my teen years that I remember being even more self conscious and even more afraid to express myself. Im not sure if it’s the same as going along with anything just to get along with everyone and be liked by everyone. In a way Im not really, but in some ways I am. I don’t know Im confusing lol I actually remember times I would talk about the things my high school friends liked talking about even though I had no actual interest in it. I did that a lot in high school just to make friends. As a teen I wanted so much to be outgoing and have lots of friends, I kind of did a 180 to how I was when I was younger. I guess growing up I always felt like being more shy than outgoing was a bad thing that should be changed. So I pushed myself to put myself out there. Unfortunately resulted in friendships that didnt feel true. My best friendships were when I was in elementary school. And now that Im older and realize it’s okay to not be outgoing, and I don’t push myself to make friends. I have a pretty good friend now that I have more in common with and it just happened without forcing it.

I think for me it depends on the person and how I think theyll react. I feel like pretty much know when or what I should say to not upset or bother someone. And so I won’t say those things to avoid conflict. But with people like my mom who Im close to perhaps I say too much sometimes lol

But I do have a very difficult time asserting myself too it depends on how comfortable I am with the person

you're an aqua moon (if i remember correctly) ?

i was reading your story and was like "are we the same person??" i swear lol 😂

i was also particular about the people i hung out with, didn't care about being cool, tried to talk sense into friends who wanted to sell their soul for popularity (😂), always quality over quantity, avoided conflict unless it was absolutely necessary etc. and you're a real one for standing up to bullies. i'm not surprised though because you seem so genuine and wise on dxp too. i'm often amazed by your perceptions.

" I actually remember times I would talk about the things my high school friends liked talking about even though I had no actual interest in it. I did that a lot in high school just to make friends."

i was guilty of this too...i faked interest in things my friends were talking about, just so i wouldn't be the odd one out. i wasn't interested in half of the stuff they were talking about but i was reacting to their jokes like "😂😂😂" .

being fake af lol people pleasing lol

" I guess growing up I always felt like being more shy than outgoing was a bad thing that should be changed. So I pushed myself to put myself out there. Unfortunately resulted in friendships that didnt feel true. "

i feel you. forcing yourself into situations at the expense of your authenticity is never a good idea.

Posted by PuzzlePieces

Yes I do this. I think it is a learned behavior from how my stepdad would not allow me to speak my opinion. If I am in a situation where I cannot express, don’t feel comfortable I will shut down and not express at all. So that always making sure all is ok before expressing, making sure it’s safe to.. is that a trauma response or is that the moon? Idk I do better when people are good listeners. And have had to work on speaking & sharing even when not comfy to get through that problem & communicate better.

Also I do better expressing my thoughts via writing. Aqua moon.

it could be a trauma response as well. if you grew up in a house where your feelings were frequently invalidated, you might develop this mindset of "what's the use of saying something?" because you think no one will care, even if you did say something. it's a trauma response. also i think aquarius moon is often viewed as one of the most self-sufficient moons out there...it doesn't mean they don't need support, they do. but they're just used to handling stuff on their own 'cause people just assume they're fine/independent...even when they're not...same with sags. it seems like it's hard for them to be vulnerable.

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I always thought this was a libra rising thing. And yes I do have that "go along to get along" mentality. I only do this to avoid getting into shit with people. I like to keep the peace even if it means to agree with them.

what's your moon sign (if you don't mind me asking) ?

a few months back, i kinda remember you mentioning something about feeling misunderstood by people when you talk...?

Gemini

I feel misunderstood when I write on here even. A perfect example of that would be hendo misunderstanding me amongst others. Everybody take everything i say at heart when i dont mean to hurt nobody. So thats why I try to just stay quiet.

No problem with being silent if you enjoy it...but when you have something to say and it's almost itching in your throat...better express yourself. If there are misunderstandings then you can either ignore it or sort it out whilst being quiet might be uncomfortable ....just saying 😊👍

Also there will always be misunderstandings from someone, imagine a world without misunderstandings how beautiful would that be

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I'm no good at expressing myself. I'm not good at that at all. What I need is an advocate. I am more than willing to hire an advocate to do all the talking for me in complicating sichations but I don't know how to go about it. Like do I put up flyers on telephone poles?

And a world without misunderstandings you might as well say get rid of all geminis from the face of the earth.

Yes!

I am also agreeable for the sake of being agreeable and calm and nice. Not so much for being liked, but it just seems easier that way. I mean I also like to be liked, but that’s not always the priority.

I have found that in situations I need to be assertive, I completely lose my shit and my ugly side of Gemini and Leo moon/Leo mars aggression shows up 😬

Yup. I do the lol at the end as well even when I'm being sarcastic.

I personally don't like to argue with anyone and if that means giving way to get things done then so be it. I'd rather finish a task than spend time arguing just so I can demonstrate assertiveness (or aggressiveness is how they call it when it's a female sharing opinions).

I'm in that situation now when I'm supposed to be leading a project and aries manager is acting like my idea is his idea and he's the one who talks more than I do - - telling people what to do. At the end of the day, my task is to keep the project going and completed. That's the bigger picture for me. Fortunately, I'm close to finishing my part of the task so I can jump on other tasks that the team is having a hard time with and will make sure I help them accomplish their bit as well.

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Yeah I was a quiet shy kid and wouldn't dare voice my opinions especially if they went against the current, and I struggled with that in my relationships and friendships but I was/still am the type of someone who would grow frustrated and eventually explode if people don't listen to me, I'm trying to change that now speaking up before it gets to the boiling point it's hard and I sweep some things under the rug just not to upset anyone.

Libra Sun Venus and Mars

i felt this to the core. what you described is what two of my friends (aqua moon and libra moon) described as well as my own experience. i used to go through long periods of being super agreeable and then just snap outta nowhere...and feel guilty afterwards...often when air moons snap, people look at us like they've seen a ghost or something...'cause it's almost like they weren't expecting it...😅

looking at us like this like "audacity must be on sale this year" 😂😂:



with three major planets in libra, i can only imagine your struggle.

i heard libras are sensitive to things not being balanced. also they don't seem to like embracing/displaying their dark side to people too much. (libra sun/moon friend told me she doesn't like to marinate in murky, low vibrational emotions because she feels uncomfortable)

i'm glad you are recognizing that your needs matter just as much as everyone else's too.

empathy without boundaries is dangerous. don't overlook your own needs.

there's a quote that helped me put my people pleasing ways to rest :

"half of life is lost in charming others. the other half is lost in going through anxieties caused by others. leave this play. you have played enough."

we sometimes cause ourselves anxieties too...but you get the point lol 😅

(sorry for the slow , spaced out replies, everyone. i'm working as i'm replying 😅)

Posted by borednbeautiful

Yes!

I am also agreeable for the sake of being agreeable and calm and nice. Not so much for being liked, but it just seems easier that way. I mean I also like to be liked, but that’s not always the priority.

I have found that in situations I need to be assertive, I completely lose my shit and my ugly side of Gemini and Leo moon/Leo mars aggression shows up 😬

yeah it's never about being liked for me, either. i just hate hurting people's feelings 'cause i know what it's like to be on the receiving end of hurtful behavior.

i think having strong fire placements is super helpful for air suns who may otherwise be too adaptable/flexible.

Libra Sun, Mercury, Mars and no. I’ve always been provocative. It’s hard to not be intense. I think all the squares with Uranus could make chaotic, rebellious energy.

I was the picky, fussy eater. It hurt my mom's feelings when she saw me wash off ketchup from meatloaf. 😂 After that, she’d leave one side without it. I have so many stories lol. I remember telling my mom that we aren’t slaves and that’s how I felt when she’d ask us to come get her remote or some trivial crap she could do herself. Overall, my energy is still too wild which is why I keep relationships at bay. I wasn’t a good child tbh. I always did great in academics or sports but I could never fully integrate with my peers. I think that’s a good thing about being Air dominant. I can balance my own needs versus others. Not being able to do so would lead to someone not appearing assertive.

Also never cared what others would think of what I’d say or do. It’s both a good trait and a detriment. I think it’s perfectly fine when others do care more. You tend to hurt others less. With a lot of things, moderation is key.

Posted by BaeMaxx

Yup. I do the lol at the end as well even when I'm being sarcastic.

I personally don't like to argue with anyone and if that means giving way to get things done then so be it. I'd rather finish a task than spend time arguing just so I can demonstrate assertiveness (or aggressiveness is how they call it when it's a female sharing opinions).

I'm in that situation now when I'm supposed to be leading a project and aries manager is acting like my idea is his idea and he's the one who talks more than I do - - telling people what to do. At the end of the day, my task is to keep the project going and completed. That's the bigger picture for me. Fortunately, I'm close to finishing my part of the task so I can jump on other tasks that the team is having a hard time with and will make sure I help them accomplish their bit as well.

i feel like air suns and moons value ease/flow and the drama-free life style so much that we are willing let many things slide. people might see that as not caring or us being shallow but that's just us conserving our energy for things that truly matter.

we're also able to rationalize things, so our egos don't get out of control. we don't get offended easily basically. lol

i used to use lol in texts a lot in order to avoid seeming cold or rude.

for example, saying "i'm not sure if i agree with that lol" sounded less prickly to me than saying "i'm not sure if i agree with that."

especailly in a text where you can't see the other person's facial expressions.

i'm so sorry your aries manager is giving you a hard time. the people in your office are probably seeing your devotion to the project/team and being inspired by your nobility and work ethic. the truth will reveal itself in time. i'm sure people see the manager playing dirty and it will come back to bite him in the ass.

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When I was younger I had a friend who was kind of a follower and wanted to be friends with everyone and be liked by everyone. Even though I guess it’s a good thing she was so outgoing and happy go lucky, I on the other hand was frustrated with this because I felt she was kissing up to people who seemed to not want to talk to her. And I remember telling her, why do you bother pushing yourself on people that seem annoyed with you talking to them? And it’s bad on my part because I was a bit too extreme in that way where I would prefer to be alone than feel like my presence wasnt wanted and like I was a nuisance. And that’s why I was particular with who I spoke to.

She was a Gemini Sun Taurus moon. She was much more extraverted than me though, and she thought having more friends the merrier. I have always been more introverte, and didn't need nor want a whole bunch of friends. I was okay with just one or two good friends.

Despite me not really liking the “crowd” I was still afraid to express my likes, opinions, etc and would often keep them to myself. I didn’t like conflict and confrontation and it made me nervous. So in a way I was passive but also not at the same time. When someone was being mean I had no problem putting it down lol I was a bit feisty at times

It wasn’t until I got towards my teen years that I remember being even more self conscious and even more afraid to express myself. Im not sure if it’s the same as going along with anything just to get along with everyone and be liked by everyone. In a way Im not really, but in some ways I am. I don’t know Im confusing lol I actually remember times I would talk about the things my high school friends liked talking about even though I had no actual interest in it. I did that a lot in high school just to make friends. As a teen I wanted so much to be outgoing and have lots of friends, I kind of did a 180 to how I was when I was younger. I guess growing up I always felt like being more shy than outgoing was a bad thing that should be changed. So I pushed myself to put myself out there. Unfortunately resulted in friendships that didnt feel true. My best friendships were when I was in elementary school. And now that Im older and realize it’s okay to not be outgoing, and I don’t push myself to make friends. I have a pretty good friend now that I have more in common with and it just happened without forcing it.

I think for me it depends on the person and how I think theyll react. I feel like pretty much know when or what I should say to not upset or bother someone. And so I won’t say those things to avoid conflict. But with people like my mom who Im close to perhaps I say too much sometimes lol

But I do have a very difficult time asserting myself too it depends on how comfortable I am with the person

you're an aqua moon (if i remember correctly) ?

i was reading your story and was like "are we the same person??" i swear lol 😂

i was also particular about the people i hung out with, didn't care about being cool, tried to talk sense into friends who wanted to sell their soul for popularity (😂), always quality over quantity, avoided conflict unless it was absolutely necessary etc. and you're a real one for standing up to bullies. i'm not surprised though because you seem so genuine and wise on dxp too. i'm often amazed by your perceptions.

" I actually remember times I would talk about the things my high school friends liked talking about even though I had no actual interest in it. I did that a lot in high school just to make friends."

i was guilty of this too...i faked interest in things my friends were talking about, just so i wouldn't be the odd one out. i wasn't interested in half of the stuff they were talking about but i was reacting to their jokes like "😂😂😂" .

being fake af lol people pleasing lol

" I guess growing up I always felt like being more shy than outgoing was a bad thing that should be changed. So I pushed myself to put myself out there. Unfortunately resulted in friendships that didnt feel true. "

i feel you. forcing yourself into situations at the expense of your authenticity is never a good idea.

Idk why dxp doesn’t notify me when you respond ☹️

Yes Im an Aqua moon and rising (:

Aww you’re so sweet you’re the first person to call me wise LOL I thought I was just crazy 😂 I doubt my perceptions often and find myself boring so Im glad to see someone finds it fascinating!

Omg we must be the same person😂 do you have any Pisces or Aqua placements?

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there's nothing crazy or boring about you. if someone in the past ever called you those things, obviously they're the boring ones with no imagination or capacity to see beauty in others.

people are also afraid of things they don't understand, so they may label it "crazy" 'cause it's easier than trying to understand it. i actually don't have any pisces or aqua placements but my moon and mars are in the 11th house so that's kinda like low key having aqua moon and mars...?lol i'm not sure lol i do sort of "get" aqua energy tho...like, it's not foreign to me.

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Was it moon or mars?

My mars is in that, yes you right, LIBRA. I always have a hard time voicing out my opinions (unless to my partner) and tend to just sweep them under the rugs. Why? Because I hate arguing with people. I am cool with banter, just not an ongoing arguments because it's petty and draining. I think, I did this many times on dxp as well. I just let things pass.

Apart from that, while I was working with big organizations previously, if someone did some mistakes, be it big or small, I actually took the blame for the team when no one owns up. It's not because I am dumb but I just don't want the whole squad getting burned.

I don't really worry about what others think of me, I am just not into petty arguments or like to pin point someone else. I do things on my own and just move along with them. However, I hate big bullies so I fought for the underdog if someone bullied them under my nose. I am not saying I am good and I do have nasty temper which can only to be shown to my family.

Come to think about it, it is not really a bad thing but then at times, it made me hold my anger inside...for awhile before I bounce back and forget everything. lol

i find arguing to be draining too. arguing/debating in order to solve a problem is fine. but i don't have time to argue with people's egos. they can argue with the ceiling. i'm good 😂 lol

you're a noble character for taking the blame for the entire team. i hope you're surrounded by people with good intentions who appreciate you and have similar values and mindset as you.

i admire people who fight for the underdog.

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Yes I do this. I think it is a learned behavior from how my stepdad would not allow me to speak my opinion. If I am in a situation where I cannot express, don’t feel comfortable I will shut down and not express at all. So that always making sure all is ok before expressing, making sure it’s safe to.. is that a trauma response or is that the moon? Idk I do better when people are good listeners. And have had to work on speaking & sharing even when not comfy to get through that problem & communicate better.

Also I do better expressing my thoughts via writing. Aqua moon.

it could be a trauma response as well. if you grew up in a house where your feelings were frequently invalidated, you might develop this mindset of "what's the use of saying something?" because you think no one will care, even if you did say something. it's a trauma response. also i think aquarius moon is often viewed as one of the most self-sufficient moons out there...it doesn't mean they don't need support, they do. but they're just used to handling stuff on their own 'cause people just assume they're fine/independent...even when they're not...same with sags. it seems like it's hard for them to be vulnerable.

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Hmmm I didn’t get a notification on this. Yes my mom got remarried when I was 12. First I tried sticking up for me & my brothers. I was having some anger issues initially but that just got me labeled a bad kid. Then all through high school I shut down due to being pretty much squashed by my stepdad & mom looking the other way. It’s interesting in relationships after that, I tended to shut down when I couldn’t get through to my partner & resolve the issue. Anyway, towards the end of marriage #2 which I had become completely shut down, I went to therapy and personal growth and opened back up, learned what vulnerability is, and that as an aqua moon the secret is sharing. Seems so opposite actually. Yes Sag sun, aqua moon & the cap placements don’t help!! So it’s much better now, but I still don’t like conflict. Peace is important and I like to do things in a way to achieve that & people in my life who are more supportive than telling me how to be. Although the fire does come out at times too. But usually takes a lot to get there.

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Libra Sun, Mercury, Mars and no. I’ve always been provocative. It’s hard to not be intense. I think all the squares with Uranus could make chaotic, rebellious energy.

I was the picky, fussy eater. It hurt my mom's feelings when she saw me wash off ketchup from meatloaf. 😂 After that, she’d leave one side without it. I have so many stories lol. I remember telling my mom that we aren’t slaves and that’s how I felt when she’d ask us to come get her remote or some trivial crap she could do herself. Overall, my energy is still too wild which is why I keep relationships at bay. I wasn’t a good child tbh. I always did great in academics or sports but I could never fully integrate with my peers. I think that’s a good thing about being Air dominant. I can balance my own needs versus others. Not being able to do so would lead to someone not appearing assertive.

LOL i woulda got my ass beat for that 😂😂

but on the other hand tho, if i had a son like you, i wouldn't worry too much about him getting bullied in school or pushed around in society 'cause i already know he'll be able to stand up for himself and put people in their place if need be. i think your mom probably appreciated that about you. having less to worry about in that regard. being self-sufficient sometimes means you won't form friendships based on desperation (people who are co-dependent tend to form connections with others out of desperation or inability to vibe on their own) but just know that if you keep being authentically you, you will find your tribe (your people). keep your heart open for possibilities.

And ha! I use lol a lot. I had to stop myself from doing that in the last post 🙃

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Yes I do this. I think it is a learned behavior from how my stepdad would not allow me to speak my opinion. If I am in a situation where I cannot express, don’t feel comfortable I will shut down and not express at all. So that always making sure all is ok before expressing, making sure it’s safe to.. is that a trauma response or is that the moon? Idk I do better when people are good listeners. And have had to work on speaking & sharing even when not comfy to get through that problem & communicate better.

Also I do better expressing my thoughts via writing. Aqua moon.

it could be a trauma response as well. if you grew up in a house where your feelings were frequently invalidated, you might develop this mindset of "what's the use of saying something?" because you think no one will care, even if you did say something. it's a trauma response. also i think aquarius moon is often viewed as one of the most self-sufficient moons out there...it doesn't mean they don't need support, they do. but they're just used to handling stuff on their own 'cause people just assume they're fine/independent...even when they're not...same with sags. it seems like it's hard for them to be vulnerable.

Hmmm I didn’t get a notification on this. Yes my mom got remarried when I was 12. First I tried sticking up for me & my brothers. I was having some anger issues initially but that just got me labeled a bad kid. Then all through high school I shut down due to being pretty much squashed by my stepdad & mom looking the other way. It’s interesting in relationships after that, I tended to shut down when I couldn’t get through to my partner & resolve the issue. Anyway, towards the end of marriage #2 which I had become completely shut down, I went to therapy and personal growth and opened back up, learned what vulnerability is, and that as an aqua moon the secret is sharing. Seems so opposite actually. Yes Sag sun, aqua moon & the cap placements don’t help!! So it’s much better now, but I still don’t like conflict. Peace is important and I like to do things in a way to achieve that & people in my life who are more supportive than telling me how to be. Although the fire does come out at times too. But usually takes a lot to get there.

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your mom looked away and didn't stand up for you ? that part disturbed me the most.

like they say, anger is just an outward expression of hurt, fear and frustration. it sucks when people just brush you off like you're just an angry teen going through a phase or something instead of asking you what's really making you sad.

i'm glad the therapy helped you open your heart back up and helped you return to your self. i read somewhere that aqua moons benefit greatly from being part of a warm community of like-minded people rather than isolating.

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And ha! I use lol a lot. I had to stop myself from doing that in the last post 🙃

that's ok! 😂 i still do it too lol it's fun to use it lol it makes things feel upbeat 😂

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Yes I do this. I think it is a learned behavior from how my stepdad would not allow me to speak my opinion. If I am in a situation where I cannot express, don’t feel comfortable I will shut down and not express at all. So that always making sure all is ok before expressing, making sure it’s safe to.. is that a trauma response or is that the moon? Idk I do better when people are good listeners. And have had to work on speaking & sharing even when not comfy to get through that problem & communicate better.

Also I do better expressing my thoughts via writing. Aqua moon.

it could be a trauma response as well. if you grew up in a house where your feelings were frequently invalidated, you might develop this mindset of "what's the use of saying something?" because you think no one will care, even if you did say something. it's a trauma response. also i think aquarius moon is often viewed as one of the most self-sufficient moons out there...it doesn't mean they don't need support, they do. but they're just used to handling stuff on their own 'cause people just assume they're fine/independent...even when they're not...same with sags. it seems like it's hard for them to be vulnerable.

Hmmm I didn’t get a notification on this. Yes my mom got remarried when I was 12. First I tried sticking up for me & my brothers. I was having some anger issues initially but that just got me labeled a bad kid. Then all through high school I shut down due to being pretty much squashed by my stepdad & mom looking the other way. It’s interesting in relationships after that, I tended to shut down when I couldn’t get through to my partner & resolve the issue. Anyway, towards the end of marriage #2 which I had become completely shut down, I went to therapy and personal growth and opened back up, learned what vulnerability is, and that as an aqua moon the secret is sharing. Seems so opposite actually. Yes Sag sun, aqua moon & the cap placements don’t help!! So it’s much better now, but I still don’t like conflict. Peace is important and I like to do things in a way to achieve that & people in my life who are more supportive than telling me how to be. Although the fire does come out at times too. But usually takes a lot to get there.

your mom looked away and didn't stand up for you ? that part disturbed me the most.

like they say, anger is just an outward expression of hurt, fear and frustration. it sucks when people just brush you off like you're just an angry teen going through a phase or something instead of asking you what's really making you sad.

i'm glad the therapy helped you open your heart back up and helped you return to your self. i read somewhere that aqua moons benefit greatly from being part of a warm community of like-minded people rather than isolating.

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Yes it was horrible. The new marriage was what was important not paying attention to what was happening with your children. She feels incredibly guilty now. But only after she saw what it took to work through it. She has always made comments about how I am a much better mom than she was. Well I knew that it was most important to pay attention & listen… I learned the hard way.

Anyway yes I do benefit from being around people who are like-minded or who think beyond themselves & allow you to be you.

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And ha! I use lol a lot. I had to stop myself from doing that in the last post 🙃

that's ok! 😂 i still do it too lol it's fun to use it lol it makes things feel upbeat 😂

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I agree 😂😂

Yes and part of it was the way my parents taught me to be when I was a kid. I’m a nervous wreck if I let it get to me. But I’m definitely outgrowing it. I don’t feel the need to be liked by all anymore bc I’m liked by the people who matter to me—and I like me! It was exhausting trying to please everyone!!! Now I just focus on making myself happy and being a good neighbor to folks without worrying what they will think of me.

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i was wondering if other air moons or suns even (libra, gemini, aquarius) have ever had any issues being assertive/being too adaptable and accommodating in situations....? (mostly during childhood and also sometimes in adulthood?)

were you always able to voice your opinions assertively or did you have this "go along to get along" mentality and kinda hesitated to cause any commotion ('cause you were worried about what people thought)...?

did you also ever have a tendency to unnecessarily add "lol" at the end of your opinions or sentences in general when texting people or posting online, because you weren't confident enough in your own thoughts and opinions?

i remember when i was a kid, i would constantly try to read the temperature/vibe of the room before speaking and was really worried about saying the "wrong" thing.

i had this whole "go along to get along" mentality about most trivial, everyday things. (also, when you're the oldest of three, you kinda get used to putting your younger siblings' needs ahead of your own and it was hard to have too many opinions in the house run by an authoritarian father 😅)

despite all of that, i knew how to be assertive in certain situations that called for assertiveness (for example, if some kid was getting bullied in front me, i had no problem at all stepping in 😅 fire signs unfortunately have tempers that go from zero to life in prison when we see injustice 😅 jk jk) also i didn't give into too much peer pressure either...?

so all in all, i guess it worked out but i still had a lot of anxiety about saying what's really on my mind for most of my childhood, teens, and early twenties...like until about 23...

i'm wondering if other air moons/air suns had issues with being too adaptable, agreeable or issues with being assertive in any way...?

IME, air moon + air mars is more a culprit of this than air moon + air sun.

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Yes and part of it was the way my parents taught me to be when I was a kid. I’m a nervous wreck if I let it get to me. But I’m definitely outgrowing it. I don’t feel the need to be liked by all anymore bc I’m liked by the people who matter to me—and I like me! It was exhausting trying to please everyone!!! Now I just focus on making myself happy and being a good neighbor to folks without worrying what they will think of me.

i'm happy you reached that conclusion. it's impossible to be liked by everyone. you could be the most chill, nicest person ever and someone will still be side-eyeing you calling you fake and sh*t lol. that's just how humans are. they make assumptions about you so they can feel superior and stuff. don't mind those people.

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i was wondering if other air moons or suns even (libra, gemini, aquarius) have ever had any issues being assertive/being too adaptable and accommodating in situations....? (mostly during childhood and also sometimes in adulthood?)

were you always able to voice your opinions assertively or did you have this "go along to get along" mentality and kinda hesitated to cause any commotion ('cause you were worried about what people thought)...?

did you also ever have a tendency to unnecessarily add "lol" at the end of your opinions or sentences in general when texting people or posting online, because you weren't confident enough in your own thoughts and opinions?

i remember when i was a kid, i would constantly try to read the temperature/vibe of the room before speaking and was really worried about saying the "wrong" thing.

i had this whole "go along to get along" mentality about most trivial, everyday things. (also, when you're the oldest of three, you kinda get used to putting your younger siblings' needs ahead of your own and it was hard to have too many opinions in the house run by an authoritarian father 😅)

despite all of that, i knew how to be assertive in certain situations that called for assertiveness (for example, if some kid was getting bullied in front me, i had no problem at all stepping in 😅 fire signs unfortunately have tempers that go from zero to life in prison when we see injustice 😅 jk jk) also i didn't give into too much peer pressure either...?

so all in all, i guess it worked out but i still had a lot of anxiety about saying what's really on my mind for most of my childhood, teens, and early twenties...like until about 23...

i'm wondering if other air moons/air suns had issues with being too adaptable, agreeable or issues with being assertive in any way...?

IME, air moon + air mars is more a culprit of this than air moon + air sun.

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you might be right! 'cause i have heard that your mars is how you act and how you go after the things you want. i act like a gemini lol 😂

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did you also ever have a tendency to unnecessarily add "lol" at the end of your opinions or sentences in general when texting people or posting online, because you weren't confident enough in your own thoughts and opinions?

there's an awkward story behind this.

many years ago, i was texting my partner and out of nowhere he was like "say something without putting lol at the end" and i was like "what do you mean" and he was like "say a statement."

at this point i was like wtf

but he went on to say, "i've never seen you say a statement with boldness. you're always putting a question mark or lol at the end of your sentences. it makes you sound like you're not confident in your own opinions. people won't take you seriously if you talk like that all the time."

he told me to say what's on my mind without appearing unsure.

i changed the way i talked from that day forward haha

First, and I mean this is the very best way...you just did it again on the last line but with a haha

Second, all the things you said in your first post, yes. Lol is my most overused thing. I over explain myself, or quietly voice a thought to a more outspoken friend so they can then say it (I'm ok with not getting credit). I think that's why I like fire signs as friends 😂. Not entirely sure if it's all my moon (aqua btw) or learned childhood behavior, it's likely a combo of both for me. That's a big reason I like Scorpio so much, because I know I'll hear an honest thought without malice (or, like Cancer tends to do, their self centric thoughts) behind it. I don't actually care about people's perception of me though so it's super weird and hard to describe the feeling of WHY I need to explain myself.

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😂 i still easily revert back to my old way of talking if i'm not careful.

i've seen you around dxp. you're such a calm, chill dude. honestly i can't imagine anyone having an issue with you lol

over-explaining could be a sign of worry or fear of being misunderstood. which is pretty valid since being misunderstood sucks. lol also, i think virgos have this tendency where they want things done correctly the first time. they hate having to re-do things later or having to re-start, re-explain things. you guys deal with anxiety a lot. i can't count how many times i've seen a virgo act jittery, pacing back and forth before an important event. you guys always ace things 'cause you're often 10 times more prepared than anyone in the room, so i don't know what all the anxiety is about lol 😂 no one is more prepared than a virgo lol

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I always thought this was a libra rising thing. And yes I do have that "go along to get along" mentality. I only do this to avoid getting into shit with people. I like to keep the peace even if it means to agree with them.

what's your moon sign (if you don't mind me asking) ?

a few months back, i kinda remember you mentioning something about feeling misunderstood by people when you talk...?

Gemini

I feel misunderstood when I write on here even. A perfect example of that would be hendo misunderstanding me amongst others. Everybody take everything i say at heart when i dont mean to hurt nobody. So thats why I try to just stay quiet.

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the thing with us gemini moons, our thoughts don't come out in an orderly, coherent way all the time (due to too much going on in our minds). which leads to being misunderstood. i honestly cannot remember how many times i've tried to make a point to someone when i was a kid and they were like "huh? say that again?" lol

if we can organize our thoughts before speaking, they'll come out more smooth (the ideas in our head).

it's the intention behind your words that matter. if you know you're not trying to hurt anyone, that's what matters most. always speak with good intention. 🙂

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I always thought this was a libra rising thing. And yes I do have that "go along to get along" mentality. I only do this to avoid getting into shit with people. I like to keep the peace even if it means to agree with them.

what's your moon sign (if you don't mind me asking) ?

a few months back, i kinda remember you mentioning something about feeling misunderstood by people when you talk...?

Gemini

I feel misunderstood when I write on here even. A perfect example of that would be hendo misunderstanding me amongst others. Everybody take everything i say at heart when i dont mean to hurt nobody. So thats why I try to just stay quiet.

the thing with us gemini moons, our thoughts don't come out in an orderly, coherent way all the time (due to too much going on in our minds). which leads to being misunderstood. i honestly cannot remember how many times i've tried to make a point to someone when i was a kid and they were like "huh? say that again?" lol

if we can organize our thoughts before speaking, they'll come out more smooth (the ideas in our head).

it's the intention behind your words that matter. if you know you're not trying to hurt anyone, that's what matters most. always speak with good intention. 🙂

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Yeah all this sound like me. Only problem is I speak with authority, like I have that intensity to my voice that talks with force. I can't help but make people take notice even when I'm not trying to be noticed. Even when I speak with good intentions it don't come out that way. So in a way I can understand that from other people's point of view. But at the same time it's maddening to me.

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I always thought this was a libra rising thing. And yes I do have that "go along to get along" mentality. I only do this to avoid getting into shit with people. I like to keep the peace even if it means to agree with them.

what's your moon sign (if you don't mind me asking) ?

a few months back, i kinda remember you mentioning something about feeling misunderstood by people when you talk...?

Gemini

I feel misunderstood when I write on here even. A perfect example of that would be hendo misunderstanding me amongst others. Everybody take everything i say at heart when i dont mean to hurt nobody. So thats why I try to just stay quiet.

the thing with us gemini moons, our thoughts don't come out in an orderly, coherent way all the time (due to too much going on in our minds). which leads to being misunderstood. i honestly cannot remember how many times i've tried to make a point to someone when i was a kid and they were like "huh? say that again?" lol

if we can organize our thoughts before speaking, they'll come out more smooth (the ideas in our head).

it's the intention behind your words that matter. if you know you're not trying to hurt anyone, that's what matters most. always speak with good intention. 🙂

Yeah all this sound like me. Only problem is I speak with authority, like I have that intensity to my voice that talks with force. I can't help but make people take notice even when I'm not trying to be noticed. Even when I speak with good intentions it don't come out that way. So in a way I can understand that from other people's point of view. But at the same time it's maddening to me.

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if you have an issue with sounding forceful, you could try softening your words and delivery a little bit. avoid using conclusive and decisive statements that may sound harsh. try to keep controversial opinions to yourself too. they don’t need to be advertised. also don’t address everything you see. for example, there are so many things i hear everyday that come out of people’s mouths that i don’t agree with (even on forums like this) but if i went around reacting to every single thing i disagreed with, it would be draining. conserve your energy for situations that really matter. (being there for your loved ones, friends, helping and uplifting people, bettering your corner of the world in your own unique way etc) don’t be too hard on yourself. everyday brings a new, fresh start.

So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

I get taken advantage of all the time. I look too nice to everybody. I look too weak to everyone. And I look to soft and shy to everyone. And my chart is full of air.

Do you know if it's possible that air element is feminine? Cus I feel too feminine a lot of times. And I'm not asking about just one or two air elements in the chart. I mean a whole lot full of airs.

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

i'm actually dying to know what sun/moon you are 😂 but i heard you say you don't like revealing it on this site so i'll just quietly speculate 😂 lol

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did you also ever have a tendency to unnecessarily add "lol" at the end of your opinions or sentences in general when texting people or posting online, because you weren't confident enough in your own thoughts and opinions?

there's an awkward story behind this.

many years ago, i was texting my partner and out of nowhere he was like "say something without putting lol at the end" and i was like "what do you mean" and he was like "say a statement."

at this point i was like wtf

but he went on to say, "i've never seen you say a statement with boldness. you're always putting a question mark or lol at the end of your sentences. it makes you sound like you're not confident in your own opinions. people won't take you seriously if you talk like that all the time."

he told me to say what's on my mind without appearing unsure.

i changed the way i talked from that day forward haha

First, and I mean this is the very best way...you just did it again on the last line but with a haha

Second, all the things you said in your first post, yes. Lol is my most overused thing. I over explain myself, or quietly voice a thought to a more outspoken friend so they can then say it (I'm ok with not getting credit). I think that's why I like fire signs as friends 😂. Not entirely sure if it's all my moon (aqua btw) or learned childhood behavior, it's likely a combo of both for me. That's a big reason I like Scorpio so much, because I know I'll hear an honest thought without malice (or, like Cancer tends to do, their self centric thoughts) behind it. I don't actually care about people's perception of me though so it's super weird and hard to describe the feeling of WHY I need to explain myself.

😂 i still easily revert back to my old way of talking if i'm not careful.

i've seen you around dxp. you're such a calm, chill dude. honestly i can't imagine anyone having an issue with you lol

over-explaining could be a sign of worry or fear of being misunderstood. which is pretty valid since being misunderstood sucks. lol also, i think virgos have this tendency where they want things done correctly the first time. they hate having to re-do things later or having to re-start, re-explain things. you guys deal with anxiety a lot. i can't count how many times i've seen a virgo act jittery, pacing back and forth before an important event. you guys always ace things 'cause you're often 10 times more prepared than anyone in the room, so i don't know what all the anxiety is about lol 😂 no one is more prepared than a virgo lol

I totally understand, because same. I have to really think sometimes even when I type.

Thanks. I'm chill to a point. But once I'm beyond that point...👿 Once I lose my chill I'm a raving lunatic 😂. Pretty much the only people that have a problem with me are people that crossed someone I care about. I get much more aggressive on others behalf than my own. I am misunderstood a lot when talking though, so I either don't talk or over explain.

I'm actually a Libra. I have one Virgo placement somewhere, it's probably responsible for me liking to make lists 😂

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omg

i'm embarrassed 😂😂 i dunno why i thought you were a virgo for the longest time. 😂 i shoulda known from your username that you were a libra (finding "BALANCE") so sorry about that lol

getting aggressive on other people's behalf is an upstanding, respectable trait! our society needs more people like that.

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

i'm actually dying to know what sun/moon you are 😂 but i heard you say you don't like revealing it on this site so i'll just quietly speculate 😂 lol

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I’ve subtly dropped it here and there after 7 years lol. I love hearing other’s speculation! What have you thought?

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

I get taken advantage of all the time. I look too nice to everybody. I look too weak to everyone. And I look to soft and shy to everyone. And my chart is full of air.

Do you know if it's possible that air element is feminine? Cus I feel too feminine a lot of times. And I'm not asking about just one or two air elements in the chart. I mean a whole lot full of airs.

My chart has zero air, but I'm hardly the pinnacle of manliness.

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So I take it you're a feminine man. Not that anything wrong with being a feminine man but I feel they gets taken full advantage of more than most. And everything about me points to me being extroverted and a people pleaser but I just don't see it.

As I see, Libras can be very assertive.

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

I get taken advantage of all the time. I look too nice to everybody. I look too weak to everyone. And I look to soft and shy to everyone. And my chart is full of air.

Do you know if it's possible that air element is feminine? Cus I feel too feminine a lot of times. And I'm not asking about just one or two air elements in the chart. I mean a whole lot full of airs.

My chart has zero air, but I'm hardly the pinnacle of manliness.

So I take it you're a feminine man. Not that anything wrong with being a feminine man but I feel they gets taken full advantage of more than most. And everything about me points to me being extroverted and a people pleaser but I just don't see it.

Not going to lie stereotypical feminine pursuits like psychology interests me more than cars. Lookswise I look masculine and everybody has heard my voice by now.

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I'm not into cars or any motor vehicles of any kind either. I have a pickup truck right now that's still sittin in my garage broke down. I think the transmission bout gone or already gone. I never kept up with the maintenance on it simply cus I don't know anything about fixing motor vehicles and I could care less. I'm using my company owned van to get around. And when or if something go wrong with it I got a specialist on board. My thing is me. I'm more into me, looking good, smelling good and anything else has to do with "me". I don't know if that's a feminine thing or not. It sure don't sound masculine. If it is.

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

I get taken advantage of all the time. I look too nice to everybody. I look too weak to everyone. And I look to soft and shy to everyone. And my chart is full of air.

Do you know if it's possible that air element is feminine? Cus I feel too feminine a lot of times. And I'm not asking about just one or two air elements in the chart. I mean a whole lot full of airs.

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The air element is masculine. But then you have both Libra (masculine) and Taurus (feminine) both ruling a feminine planet like Venus which is kinda contradictory if you ask me even tho Libra males often give metrosexual vibes. You can look into your houses to see if you’ve got feminine energy there.

When there’s a lot of air in a chart the energy is quite ungrounded and going with the flow of wind type. That’s why it can easily be influenced by its surrounding. The opposite of air is fire and fire energy is known to be more assertive and aggressive. Fire energy knows to put themselves before others better and cares more about being pleased than pleasing. That’s why the Leo archetype is often portrayed self-absorbed. Now to look into air heavy charts being capable of self-absorption vs all over the place 🤔

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

I get taken advantage of all the time. I look too nice to everybody. I look too weak to everyone. And I look to soft and shy to everyone. And my chart is full of air.

Do you know if it's possible that air element is feminine? Cus I feel too feminine a lot of times. And I'm not asking about just one or two air elements in the chart. I mean a whole lot full of airs.

The air element is masculine. But then you have both Libra (masculine) and Taurus (feminine) both ruling a feminine planet like Venus which is kinda contradictory if you ask me even tho Libra males often give metrosexual vibes. You can look into your houses to see if you’ve got feminine energy there.

When there’s a lot of air in a chart the energy is quite ungrounded and going with the flow of wind type. That’s why it can easily be influenced by its surrounding. The opposite of air is fire and fire energy is known to be more assertive and aggressive. Fire energy knows to put themselves before others better and cares more about being pleased than pleasing. That’s why the Leo archetype is often portrayed self-absorbed. Now to look into air heavy charts being capable of self-absorption vs all over the place 🤔

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I got 6 feminine sign houzes and 6 masculine sign houzes. Pretty even ill say. I'm not sure if that's what you mean I'm a little confused.

As a child I had issues being assertive. I was a quiet shy kid. Then, I blossomed into an opinionated and vocal individual about my need/wants. Rebelled against all the norms expected of me. In fact I rubbed a lot of fake and domineering individual, who I didn’t want association with anyway, the wrong way with how firm I’ve been on my choices. Aqua moon with Sag mars. My older bro is a reverse of this and he’s considered an asshole too for confidently asserting himself.

At work I’m the opposite though. Aloof and indifferent. I don’t fight over whatever my manager decides. I frankly don’t care as my ego isn’t tied to people accepting my position on things.

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So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

I’m going to have to strongly disagree with that. You see my chart. LOL. Not even remotely close. Never cared about people’s opinions/likes/dislikes and opposed societal norms I disagreed with. In fact people are scared to impose their views on me because they will definitely hear from me dissect their views. Although people would never suspect me to be the personality I hold because physically I look like how you think all air person would be. LoL. I will admit that I come across as docile because I keep to myself, calm and collected, go along with anything as long as it doesn’t go against things I stand for.

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Posted by SassyKiwi

So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

I’m going to have to strongly disagree with that. You see my chart. LOL. Not even remotely close. Never cared about people’s opinions/likes/dislikes and opposed societal norms I disagreed with. In fact people are scared to impose their views on me because they will definitely hear from me dissect their views. Although people would never suspect me to be the personality I hold because physically I look like how you think all air person would be. LoL. I will admit that I come across as docile because I keep to myself, calm and collected, go along with anything as long as it doesn’t go against things I stand for.

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I already implied I don’t really see it with air suns or Aqua moons you double Aqua! Aqua energy is too fixed. If anything I’ve seen people call it judgmental, playing devil’s advocate, basically everything but easily getting along with others’ narratives.

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Posted by SassyKiwi

So I’ve definitely seen this more with air moons than air suns (except for Aqua moons, they’re probably the least out of the three). I’ve always seen Libra moon be a people pleaser placement (people mistake Libra sun for this more which isn’t true). As someone with a very assertive chart, it’s nice to have docile energy often not clashing with me… probably why I’ve attracted many air moons. But I’ve seen them susceptible to getting taken advantage of especially if they have other prominent air placements. Too much air just doesn’t fare well in a chart.

i'm actually dying to know what sun/moon you are 😂 but i heard you say you don't like revealing it on this site so i'll just quietly speculate 😂 lol

I’ve subtly dropped it here and there after 7 years lol. I love hearing other’s speculation! What have you thought?

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lol i'm definitely detecting some aquarius energy and some fire energy in you..

i kinda see you as someone who marches to the beat of her own drum, which is very aquarius. you have strongly held opinions and i feel like you're very action-oriented (not afraid to take action for what you believe in. you seem grounded and sure of who you are and what you want, not so much a dreamer, but more of a doer, i feel like you value being respected more than being liked which is awesome)

my speculation lol:

aqua sun

sag moon or a fire moon, possibly virgo moon...?

cap mercury or sag mercury

cap venus

aries mars or some kinda action-oriented fire mars

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As a child I had issues being assertive. I was a quiet shy kid. Then, I blossomed into an opinionated and vocal individual about my need/wants. Rebelled against all the norms expected of me. In fact I rubbed a lot of fake and domineering individual, who I didn’t want association with anyway, the wrong way with how firm I’ve been on my choices. Aqua moon with Sag mars. My older bro is a reverse of this and he’s considered an asshole too for confidently asserting himself.

At work I’m the opposite though. Aloof and indifferent. I don’t fight over whatever my manager decides. I frankly don’t care as my ego isn’t tied to people accepting my position on things.

i feel like aquarius is probably the least impressionable of all three air signs. they seem to have a strong sense of self (a well-established identity). they seem to know who they are/ what they want more than the other two signs (gem and libra).

aquarius is a fixed sign so maybe that could be why..? i heard it's hard to get an aquarius to change their minds once they're set on something...lol also, i've always thought it was really admirable how aquas seem to have this humanitarian aspect to their personalities too. like, they're always focused on the bigger picture, looking at the world as a whole, and thinking about ways to improve things.