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Posted by saggurl88
I’m surprised Sag doesn’t have a higher rating.
My ass will believe most people cause I’m gullible like that. Until I find out them at they are a liar and them I don’t believe anything that comes out of their mouth!
That can be with any sign.


Posted by Ocelot009Posted by saggurl88
I’m surprised Sag doesn’t have a higher rating.
My ass will believe most people cause I’m gullible like that. Until I find out them at they are a liar and them I don’t believe anything that comes out of their mouth!
That can be with any sign.
I second this 😐click to expand

Posted by saggurl88Posted by Ocelot009Posted by saggurl88
I’m surprised Sag doesn’t have a higher rating.
My ass will believe most people cause I’m gullible like that. Until I find out them at they are a liar and them I don’t believe anything that comes out of their mouth!
That can be with any sign.
I second this 😐
So many typos!! Lmao. How could you even figure out what I was trying to say!! 😩😂click to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPP
leos so honest that you kinda wanna punch them for it
no such thing as an honest air sign except aquarius
yet again Leo's are not honest wtf
this really depends on placementsclick to expand

Posted by Ocelot009Posted by saggurl88Posted by Ocelot009Posted by saggurl88
I’m surprised Sag doesn’t have a higher rating.
My ass will believe most people cause I’m gullible like that. Until I find out them at they are a liar and them I don’t believe anything that comes out of their mouth!
That can be with any sign.
I second this 😐
So many typos!! Lmao. How could you even figure out what I was trying to say!! 😩😂
Because I know what you mean xD I’m pretty idealistic until I catch you on your bs or my gut feeling tells me their some serious fuckery going on about you.click to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by Black-Mamba
most everybody is a liar
I'm not going to quantify shit
ppl will lie for many reasons
to say most honest is ridiculous, cause I've barely met those type of ppl
Of course it’s ridiculous. Where do you think you are 😂click to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPP
leos so honest that you kinda wanna punch them for it
no such thing as an honest air sign except aquarius
yet again Leo's are not honest wtf
this really depends on placements
yeah when i say leo, i'm also referring to leo placements
i know plenty of Leos that hem haw and hide behind a facade
to me that's a lieclick to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by saggurl88Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by Black-Mamba
most everybody is a liar
I'm not going to quantify shit
ppl will lie for many reasons
to say most honest is ridiculous, cause I've barely met those type of ppl
Of course it’s ridiculous. Where do you think you are 😂
You ain’t gotta lie, Craig!
I ain’t no lying Gemini. I’m a 4 Pisces, 1 step above those Hermes ass tricky lying degenerate Geminis 😂 jkjkjkjkjkclick to expand

Posted by Black-Mamba
I will say I find mutable placements to lie more often than most

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Black-Mamba
I will say I find mutable placements to lie more often than most
I will say I find cardinal placements to lie more often than most
but that's not true, most dxp would agree with my statementclick to expand

Posted by Black-Mamba
I will say I find mutable placements to lie more often than most

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by poeticseraphimPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by poeticseraphim
Aries 5
Taurus 2
Gemini 5
Cancer 0
Leo 2
Virgo 7
Libra 5
Scorpio 8
Sag 8
Cap 9
Aqua 3
Pisces 10
Why 10 for Pisces and 0 for Cancer? Just curious about your reasoning...
The question was DIRECT HONESTY ..including bluntness ...cancer is just not like that.
Pisces is almost too honest.
The reason I gave Pisces a low-ish rating but not really low is because yea I think Pisces can brutally honest, too honest sometimes. But it takes most of them to reach that point. Often evasive and non-confrontational until things go past a certain point
evasive passive aggressive gossip mongersclick to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFish
People: Omagaa Pisces are too open with their feelings and spill their guts out to you too fast!
Also people: Omagaa Pisces are sneaky manipulative liars!
Hmmm. Literally just say anything negative about Pisces and people will agree, regardless of how contradicting it is

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Black-Mamba
I will say I find mutable placements to lie more often than most
no such thing as an honest mutable
it goes with being a mutable
yes even sags and vrigos are liars
I know! why I said mutable
I've experienced it allclick to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by HeyZeusFish
People: Omagaa Pisces are too open with their feelings and spill their guts out to you too fast!
Also people: Omagaa Pisces are sneaky manipulative liars!
Hmmm. Literally just say anything negative about Pisces and people will agree, regardless of how contradicting it is
spillage they use to manipulate you
Ok. But if someone is spilling the truth out that’s still more direct honesty than a lot of people do. Everyone is full of shit in their own waysclick to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Black-Mamba
I will say I find mutable placements to lie more often than most
no such thing as an honest mutable
it goes with being a mutable
yes even sags and vrigos are liars
I know! why I said mutable
I've experienced it all
i don't always think of it as a bad thing
to me it's disgusting and scary as fuck, I don't take it lightly
you have to understand I rarely lie and say what I meanclick to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by Black-MambaPosted by HeyZeusFish
People: Omagaa Pisces are too open with their feelings and spill their guts out to you too fast!
Also people: Omagaa Pisces are sneaky manipulative liars!
Hmmm. Literally just say anything negative about Pisces and people will agree, regardless of how contradicting it is
I've never met an open or naive Pisces
where?
I've met and KNOW only sneaky Pisces
I’m just sayin what other people say. It’s what I’ve heardclick to expand


Posted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by Black-MambaPosted by HeyZeusFish
People: Omagaa Pisces are too open with their feelings and spill their guts out to you too fast!
Also people: Omagaa Pisces are sneaky manipulative liars!
Hmmm. Literally just say anything negative about Pisces and people will agree, regardless of how contradicting it is
I've never met an open or naive Pisces
where?
I've met and KNOW only sneaky Pisces
I’m just sayin what other people say. It’s what I’ve heard
it's annoying when people say ohh virgos are so cold and controlling
then next it's that we ghosted on them like da fuq
like make up your mind about which bigoted stereotype to use pls
Virgos LOVE language is weird insecure a waste of time reallyclick to expand


Posted by Argus
People use terminology in synonymous fashion too radially!!!
Being outspoken and honest aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive, but one sure can be honest without jamming one’s unsolicited opinion down other ppls throats! 🤷🏻♀️

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by Argus
People use terminology in synonymous fashion too radially!!!
Being outspoken and honest aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive, but one sure can be honest without jamming one’s unsolicited opinion down other ppls throats! 🤷🏻♀️
I love jamming my dick down a throatclick to expand

Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by Argus
People use terminology in synonymous fashion too radially!!!
Being outspoken and honest aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive, but one sure can be honest without jamming one’s unsolicited opinion down other ppls throats! 🤷🏻♀️
a thread is an invitation to an opinionclick to expand


Posted by NicketPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by Black-MambaPosted by HeyZeusFish
People: Omagaa Pisces are too open with their feelings and spill their guts out to you too fast!
Also people: Omagaa Pisces are sneaky manipulative liars!
Hmmm. Literally just say anything negative about Pisces and people will agree, regardless of how contradicting it is
I've never met an open or naive Pisces
where?
I've met and KNOW only sneaky Pisces
I’m just sayin what other people say. It’s what I’ve heard
it's annoying when people say ohh virgos are so cold and controlling
then next it's that we ghosted on them like da fuq
like make up your mind about which bigoted stereotype to use pls
Ummm.... have you figured out you can just be... um... less controlling? It doesnt have to be all control.or run away.click to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Black-Mamba
I will say I find mutable placements to lie more often than most
I will say I find cardinal placements to lie more often than most
but that's not true, most dxp would agree with my statement
Mine is bolded so it is.
🤡
top 4 liars
Sags
Pisces
geminis
VirgHos
I find ppl who talk and lie at the same time very interesting
it's like watching a movie, where the fuk they pull this shit out
Sags will never be honest to themselves and lie about their cheating all the timeclick to expand

Posted by saggurl88Posted by Ocelot009Posted by saggurl88Posted by Ocelot009Posted by saggurl88
I’m surprised Sag doesn’t have a higher rating.
My ass will believe most people cause I’m gullible like that. Until I find out them at they are a liar and them I don’t believe anything that comes out of their mouth!
That can be with any sign.
I second this 😐
So many typos!! Lmao. How could you even figure out what I was trying to say!! 😩😂
Because I know what you mean xD I’m pretty idealistic until I catch you on your bs or my gut feeling tells me their some serious fuckery going on about you.
Yup! Once I catch someone in a lie it’s over with. I’m horrible and just nod and say ok but think they’re lying. Lol. I want to see how far people will go so I don’t say anything to them. I won’t even call them out on it!click to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by poeticseraphimPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by poeticseraphim
Aries 5
Taurus 2
Gemini 5
Cancer 0
Leo 2
Virgo 7
Libra 5
Scorpio 8
Sag 8
Cap 9
Aqua 3
Pisces 10
Why 10 for Pisces and 0 for Cancer? Just curious about your reasoning...
The question was DIRECT HONESTY ..including bluntness ...cancer is just not like that.
Pisces is almost too honest.
The reason I gave Pisces a low-ish rating but not really low is because yea I think Pisces can brutally honest, too honest sometimes. But it takes most of them to reach that point. Often evasive and non-confrontational until things go past a certain pointclick to expand

Posted by Black-Mamba
I think it really depends on placements not just Sun sign
but I've never met a honest Gemini
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Black-Mamba
I will say I find mutable placements to lie more often than most
I will say I find cardinal placements to lie more often than most
but that's not true, most dxp would agree with my statement
Mine is bolded so it is.
🤡
top 4 liars
Sags
Pisces
geminis
VirgHos
I find ppl who talk and lie at the same time very interesting
it's like watching a movie, where the fuk they pull this shit out
Sags will never be honest to themselves and lie about their cheating all the timeclick to expand

Posted by Mesquite
Well, if I'm being directly honest:
Scorpio: 10 (if we love you) 😊


Posted by PhangusPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah, but the question was which signs are more directly honest than others. Directly honest as in saying shit outright instead of using some form of manipulation or being polite. That's gotta be fire and air (mostly...remove Libra because Venus is charming and doesn't want to hurt feelings, and add Capricorn because Saturn can't be bothered to make up shit for someone's feelings.)click to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah but that’s literally every thread on this forum. People acting like their single life experience can speak for 7 billion people on earth and using it as a passive aggressive outlet because people who will never read this forum did something that hurt them in the past, so now other people get to read it and pay the priceclick to expand

Posted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah, but the question was which signs are more directly honest than others. Directly honest as in saying shit outright instead of using some form of manipulation or being polite. That's gotta be fire and air (mostly...remove Libra because Venus is charming and doesn't want to hurt feelings, and add Capricorn because Saturn can't be bothered to make up shit for someone's feelings.)
Again that question is answered on a personal opinion of each person. An individual's opinion on who is more honest is solely based on their own life.
Yeah, that's why I'm careful to talk about signs and energies as divorced from actual people. We're all a mix of energies anyway.
I personally feel the tension between being directly, brutally honest (there is a part of me that insists on it, feels prodded to speak up about shit that is none of my business just because it seems like the Truth) and the other side of me that is compassionate and wants everyone to feel welcomed and comforted.click to expand

Posted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah, but the question was which signs are more directly honest than others. Directly honest as in saying shit outright instead of using some form of manipulation or being polite. That's gotta be fire and air (mostly...remove Libra because Venus is charming and doesn't want to hurt feelings, and add Capricorn because Saturn can't be bothered to make up shit for someone's feelings.)
Again that question is answered on a personal opinion of each person. An individual's opinion on who is more honest is solely based on their own life.
Yeah, that's why I'm careful to talk about signs and energies as divorced from actual people. We're all a mix of energies anyway.
I personally feel the tension between being directly, brutally honest (there is a part of me that insists on it, feels prodded to speak up about shit that is none of my business just because it seems like the Truth) and the other side of me that is compassionate and wants everyone to feel welcomed and comforted.
I agree. You're probably one of the few I think that is more subjective then others. I just find the rate 1 to 10 to be disingenuous and most aren't as unbiased as they seemingly try to come off as.
Did you mean objective? 🙂 I try to be objective but also try to acknowledge my biases and subjectivity.
You're absolutely right about why most people start and participate in these threads. I know when OP starts a thread there's always gonna be something shitty about Geminis in it. *shrugs*click to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by nikkistarPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah but that’s literally every thread on this forum. People acting like their single life experience can speak for 7 billion people on earth and using it as a passive aggressive outlet because people who will never read this forum did something that hurt them in the past, so now other people get to read it and pay the price
I agree. That's why I find all of these threads to be annoying. Same with, which sign is most likely to cheat. Or which signs are most compatible.
I even recognize I answer based off my own prejudices.
I could answer and say I think cancers have a tendency to lie the most. Not for nefarious reasons, but they have a tendency to white lie over ridiculous things. But that's just my own person experience I see.
Honesty is subjective. People have a tendency to put so much weight that honesty is morally the best thing. When it can be weaponized and used to hurt just as much as lying depending on how it is used.
Yeah I usually just stay out of these threads or if I do post, try to bring some reason to them. But this time I said fuck it why not, I’ll get down with the ridiculousness and try to do this while considering different factors including personal experience and considering the astrology by itself. And it seems like everytime I actually decide to participate in a thread like this it immediately goes off the rails and people flip the fuck out for some reason xD even the times when I try to make it clear that I’m just conveying my personal experience or that just because a certain sign/element/whatever doesn’t work for me doesnt make it objectively “bad”, it’s just not for me but could be meant for someone elseclick to expand

Posted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah, but the question was which signs are more directly honest than others. Directly honest as in saying shit outright instead of using some form of manipulation or being polite. That's gotta be fire and air (mostly...remove Libra because Venus is charming and doesn't want to hurt feelings, and add Capricorn because Saturn can't be bothered to make up shit for someone's feelings.)
Again that question is answered on a personal opinion of each person. An individual's opinion on who is more honest is solely based on their own life.
Yeah, that's why I'm careful to talk about signs and energies as divorced from actual people. We're all a mix of energies anyway.
I personally feel the tension between being directly, brutally honest (there is a part of me that insists on it, feels prodded to speak up about shit that is none of my business just because it seems like the Truth) and the other side of me that is compassionate and wants everyone to feel welcomed and comforted.
I agree. You're probably one of the few I think that is more subjective then others. I just find the rate 1 to 10 to be disingenuous and most aren't as unbiased as they seemingly try to come off as.
Did you mean objective? 🙂 I try to be objective but also try to acknowledge my biases and subjectivity.
You're absolutely right about why most people start and participate in these threads. I know when OP starts a thread there's always gonna be something shitty about Geminis in it. *shrugs*
Objective yes.
I personally don't find geminis personally dishonest in the the traditional sense. I find they will sometimes omit things they have done wrong for awhile, but will eventually acknowledge it. But that is solely based on my 2 exes. Lol
I can relate to that. I have no trouble acknowledging sins and transgressions that are well in the past. I have a hard time acknowledging current and recent fuck-ups.click to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by nikkistarPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by nikkistarPosted by HeyZeusFishPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah but that’s literally every thread on this forum. People acting like their single life experience can speak for 7 billion people on earth and using it as a passive aggressive outlet because people who will never read this forum did something that hurt them in the past, so now other people get to read it and pay the price
I agree. That's why I find all of these threads to be annoying. Same with, which sign is most likely to cheat. Or which signs are most compatible.
I even recognize I answer based off my own prejudices.
I could answer and say I think cancers have a tendency to lie the most. Not for nefarious reasons, but they have a tendency to white lie over ridiculous things. But that's just my own person experience I see.
Honesty is subjective. People have a tendency to put so much weight that honesty is morally the best thing. When it can be weaponized and used to hurt just as much as lying depending on how it is used.
Yeah I usually just stay out of these threads or if I do post, try to bring some reason to them. But this time I said fuck it why not, I’ll get down with the ridiculousness and try to do this while considering different factors including personal experience and considering the astrology by itself. And it seems like everytime I actually decide to participate in a thread like this it immediately goes off the rails and people flip the fuck out for some reason xD even the times when I try to make it clear that I’m just conveying my personal experience or that just because a certain sign/element/whatever doesn’t work for me doesnt make it objectively “bad”, it’s just not for me but could be meant for someone else
It's because people are biased about their own signs and take it as a personal attack when someone mentions their sign and gives it low rating lol.
People inherently for some reason get triggered by it. Lol
Which is understandable I guess. It always just seems to happen right after I decide to post though even if other people have been going 10x harder at other things. Maybe I just have the worst timing in the world or something lmaoclick to expand

Posted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistarPosted by PhangusPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah, but the question was which signs are more directly honest than others. Directly honest as in saying shit outright instead of using some form of manipulation or being polite. That's gotta be fire and air (mostly...remove Libra because Venus is charming and doesn't want to hurt feelings, and add Capricorn because Saturn can't be bothered to make up shit for someone's feelings.)
Again that question is answered on a personal opinion of each person. An individual's opinion on who is more honest is solely based on their own life.
Yeah, that's why I'm careful to talk about signs and energies as divorced from actual people. We're all a mix of energies anyway.
I personally feel the tension between being directly, brutally honest (there is a part of me that insists on it, feels prodded to speak up about shit that is none of my business just because it seems like the Truth) and the other side of me that is compassionate and wants everyone to feel welcomed and comforted.
I agree. You're probably one of the few I think that is more subjective then others. I just find the rate 1 to 10 to be disingenuous and most aren't as unbiased as they seemingly try to come off as.
Did you mean objective? 🙂 I try to be objective but also try to acknowledge my biases and subjectivity.
You're absolutely right about why most people start and participate in these threads. I know when OP starts a thread there's always gonna be something shitty about Geminis in it. *shrugs*
Objective yes.
I personally don't find geminis personally dishonest in the the traditional sense. I find they will sometimes omit things they have done wrong for awhile, but will eventually acknowledge it. But that is solely based on my 2 exes. Lol
I can relate to that. I have no trouble acknowledging sins and transgressions that are well in the past. I have a hard time acknowledging current and recent fuck-ups.
But is that a Gemini solely thing? Or a human nature one? Lol cause I can say I also have done that in the past as well, and I am a scorpio. Hahah
Yeah, you right.
The thing is if you acknowledge you're fucking up _right now_ you either have to stop fucking up or accept that you're a piece of shit. Who wants to be a piece of shit?
This is all very Kantian. lolclick to expand

Posted by HeyZeusFishPosted by ErinPosted by PhangusYeah, you right.
The thing is if you acknowledge you're fucking up _right now_ you either have to stop fucking up or accept that you're a piece of shit. Who wants to be a piece of shit?
This is all very Kantian. lol
One of the people I am subscribed to on Youtube said that he tells everyone that he is a toxic piece of crap and then there is no pressure to be perfect and people can't say he is disingenuous when he make mistakes.
Seems like the answer to everything xD
As a trash Pisces man I can relate to thatclick to expand

Posted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.

Posted by PhangusPosted by nikkistar
Everyone lies.
Just some lie to protect feelings, theirs, their loved ones, people they care for because they take in account understanding that to be told the full truth could hurt their feelings.
Some lie to protect their ego. Some lie as a defensive mechanism. Some lie to hurt others. Some lie to cover up their own deceit. Some lie by omission.
No one is 100% truthful. So this thread is just a bunch of opinions based on each person's own prejudices on the people in their lives and their own bias beliefs. Which I find disingenuous.
Yeah, but the question was which signs are more directly honest than others. Directly honest as in saying shit outright instead of using some form of manipulation or being polite. That's gotta be fire and air (mostly...remove Libra because Venus is charming and doesn't want to hurt feelings, and add Capricorn because Saturn can't be bothered to make up shit for someone's feelings.)click to expand
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