Where would I look in my birthchart for patterns of other people being jealous of me?

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Before you jump on me and think I am trying to hoot my own horn. I want to explain how this specific pattern destroyed me. (I have cptsd and quiet bpd as a result) when I was little my mother physically abused me, pretty bad. Im not talking about spankings, I am talking about black eyes and beating me with hard objects (my father was home like once every two months so he never knew) she constantly accused me of sleeping with my father when he was home. I had no idea what she was talking about or what I did to make her believe that. Pretty gross if you ask me. Then in middle school all the way up into my late 20s my sister constantly slept with my bfs. Good way to weed out the cheaters but she did this to other women too. One day I asked her why and she said it makes her feel better than the other woman. So my own sister sees me as competition. My own two very close best friends in Middle School through high school hated me as well and I found out because I found little folds of paper in my best friend's purse after she asked me to grab a lighter and it had my home phone number with a note above it that said free sex. So she was handing these out to guys that were horny or what ever. Mind you I had been with my bf for over a year so I dont understand the hate. They eventually came to my dads house and threatened to stab me because I ghosted them (no longer interested after what I found)

My ex that cheated on me with my sister thought that I was a hoe and he had one of his friends rape me and that's how I lost my virginity, I was 12. He laughed at me. When he found out who I was dating who my first love was he went and decided to go be best friends with him and told him a story about how we had sex like 12 different times which is not true cuz I was obviously a virgin. (I ended up taking my first loves virginity a year into seeing each other)

I could write a novel about the traumatizing shit I've been through because of people's jealousy towards me and there's nothing to brag about here I legitimately want to know what's in my chart that makes people feel this way about me?

Is it because I am kind and full of love? I noticed alot of these people grew angrier with me the more they saw me happy and thriving. Im scared to get to know people. I have never done anything ill towards somebody else and I have a close relationship with God. Where in my birth chart should I look?

I am also an empath, I can feel people thinking and I am good at verbalizing what I feel or see. I heard that empaths mirror people and people dont like looking at themselves but I was not really good at my abilities until late 20s early 30s.
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I hear that Venus opposition Moon in a chart can cause envy in other women. Mars in the 6th house can cause coworkers to be envious.

This world is so full of hate and evilness. It may be a good idea to just spend time in nature.


I keep to myself and enjoy nature, my animals and my son. This is what I found from my chart:

Planet Aspect Planet Orb Value

Sun Square Lilith 1°02' -58

Sun Conjunction N Node 8°00'

Moon Sextile Mars 2°49'

Moon Trine Jupiter 0°10'

Moon Trine Lilith 7°22'

Moon Conjunction I ASC 6°2

Mercury Conjunction Venus 9°34

Mercury Conjunction Saturn 5°'

Mercury Conjunction Uranus 6°

Mercury Conjunction Neptune 0°3

Mercury Sextile Pluto 3°59'

Mercury Sextile Lilith 4°09'

Venus Conjunction Saturn 4°2

Mars Opposition Jupiter 2°39

Mars Conjunction Uranus 7°5

Mars Conjunction X MC 8°59

Jupiter Opposition Uranus 5°21

Jupiter Trine Lilith 7°32'

Jupiter Trine I ASC 6°38'

Saturn Conjunction Neptune 5°48

Saturn Sextile Pluto 1°11'

Uranus Conjunction Neptune 5°42

Uranus Sextile Lilith 2°11'

Uranus Sextile I ASC 1°17'

Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°36'

Neptune Sextile Lilith 3°31'

Neptune Sextile I ASC 4°25'

Pluto Conjunction Lilith 8°08

Pluto Square N Node 1°09'

Lilith Trine I ASC 0°54'
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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.
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I hear that Venus opposition Moon in a chart can cause envy in other women. Mars in the 6th house can cause coworkers to be envious.

This world is so full of hate and evilness. It may be a good idea to just spend time in nature.


I keep to myself and enjoy nature, my animals and my son. This is what I found from my chart:

Planet Aspect Planet Orb Value

Sun Square Lilith 1°02' -58

Sun Conjunction N Node 8°00'

Moon Sextile Mars 2°49'

Moon Trine Jupiter 0°10'

Moon Trine Lilith 7°22'

Moon Conjunction I ASC 6°2

Mercury Conjunction Venus 9°34

Mercury Conjunction Saturn 5°'

Mercury Conjunction Uranus 6°

Mercury Conjunction Neptune 0°3

Mercury Sextile Pluto 3°59'

Mercury Sextile Lilith 4°09'

Venus Conjunction Saturn 4°2

Mars Opposition Jupiter 2°39

Mars Conjunction Uranus 7°5

Mars Conjunction X MC 8°59

Jupiter Opposition Uranus 5°21

Jupiter Trine Lilith 7°32'

Jupiter Trine I ASC 6°38'

Saturn Conjunction Neptune 5°48

Saturn Sextile Pluto 1°11'

Uranus Conjunction Neptune 5°42

Uranus Sextile Lilith 2°11'

Uranus Sextile I ASC 1°17'

Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°36'

Neptune Sextile Lilith 3°31'

Neptune Sextile I ASC 4°25'

Pluto Conjunction Lilith 8°08

Pluto Square N Node 1°09'

Lilith Trine I ASC 0°54'
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These placements as well:

- Sun opposite/Square Ascendant

- Scorpio/Taurus ruled 7th house, or lord of the 7th in Venusian signs (7th rules open enemies)

- Lord of the 7th squaring Venus or Lord of 7th conjunct/opposite/square Pluto

- MC in Scorpio

- Pluto in 10th or 11th, 1st house too

- ⁠Venus oppose/conjunct/Square Pluto

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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.


Thats true. I have more control over my atmosphere now. As a child and teen not so much I was still very dependant.
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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.

Thats true. I have more control over my atmosphere now. As a child and teen not so much I was still very dependant.
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I mean by all means if you feel the need to go by what bluemoon provided to you then be my guess but honestly I wouldn't. So don't let me get in the way of that. People being jealous of others can come from a number of other things beside birth chart. I think in your op you mention something about being quiet and keep to yourself if I'm not mistaking. Then there's your answer. You answered your own question. Because if you were the loud obnoxious type nobody wouldn't find the strength to waste any time being jealous of you. Besides I was kind of drunk anyway when I first approach this thread and I only skimmed thru your op without even reading the whole thing line by line so I responded to the one I found interesting.
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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.


Thats true. I have more control over my atmosphere now. As a child and teen not so much I was still very dependant. click to expand

I mean by all means if you feel the need to go by what bluemoon provided to you then be my guess but honestly I wouldn't. So don't let me get in the way of that. People being jealous of others can come from a number of other things beside birth chart. I think in your op you mention something about being quiet and keep to yourself if I'm not mistaking. Then there's your answer. You answered your own question. Because if you were the loud obnoxious type nobody wouldn't find the strength to waste any time being jealous of you. Besides I was kind of drunk anyway when I first approach this thread and I only skimmed thru your op without even reading the whole thing line by line so I responded to the one I found interesting.
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I dont think being quiet is the reason for all of it. Me and my sister were both quiet kids. My sister was more shy. I got physically abused while my sister remained untouched. She only has loud bpd now. My mom got in her head but cradled her every move.
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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.

Thats true. I have more control over my atmosphere now. As a child and teen not so much I was still very dependant. click to expand


I mean by all means if you feel the need to go by what bluemoon provided to you then be my guess but honestly I wouldn't. So don't let me get in the way of that. People being jealous of others can come from a number of other things beside birth chart. I think in your op you mention something about being quiet and keep to yourself if I'm not mistaking. Then there's your answer. You answered your own question. Because if you were the loud obnoxious type nobody wouldn't find the strength to waste any time being jealous of you. Besides I was kind of drunk anyway when I first approach this thread and I only skimmed thru your op without even reading the whole thing line by line so I responded to the one I found interesting.
I dont think being quiet is the reason for all of it. Me and my sister were both quiet kids. My sister was more shy. I got physically abused while my sister remained untouched. She only has loud bpd now. My mom got in her head but cradled her every move.
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True. But there are a number of things quiet people get jealous of. Like for example if you just so much as wearing something nice that can get heads turning in your direction and a look of jealous but let someone else wear the same nice thing and what do you get? Nothing. I wanna think I was the most shyest out of all my siblings and I was always the one to get the most beatings from my parents. I don't know why and that's why I feel hated on. I literally grew into that fact of being hated on from people. I don't know if it's because I'm the chosen one or what but I can't figure it out and I'm not gonna even try. What's done is done. And what's bpd? What is the official spelling of it? And also I'm sorry you got physically abused.

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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.


Thats true. I have more control over my atmosphere now. As a child and teen not so much I was still very dependant. click to expand

I mean by all means if you feel the need to go by what bluemoon provided to you then be my guess but honestly I wouldn't. So don't let me get in the way of that. People being jealous of others can come from a number of other things beside birth chart. I think in your op you mention something about being quiet and keep to yourself if I'm not mistaking. Then there's your answer. You answered your own question. Because if you were the loud obnoxious type nobody wouldn't find the strength to waste any time being jealous of you. Besides I was kind of drunk anyway when I first approach this thread and I only skimmed thru your op without even reading the whole thing line by line so I responded to the one I found interesting.

I dont think being quiet is the reason for all of it. Me and my sister were both quiet kids. My sister was more shy. I got physically abused while my sister remained untouched. She only has loud bpd now. My mom got in her head but cradled her every move. click to expand

True. But there are a number of things quiet people get jealous of. Like for example if you just so much as wearing something nice that can get heads turning in your direction and a look of jealous but let someone else wear the same nice thing and what do you get? Nothing. I wanna think I was the most shyest out of all my siblings and I was always the one to get the most beatings from my parents. I don't know why and that's why I feel hated on. I literally grew into that fact of being hated on from people. I don't know if it's because I'm the chosen one or what but I can't figure it out and I'm not gonna even try. What's done is done. And what's bpd? What is the official spelling of it? And also I'm sorry you got physically abused.

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Borderline personality disorder. I have quiet bpd i internalize things. Its from emotional abuse. Your personality is basically a survival tactic. Sadly. Its ok. I dont believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I am way too close to God to relate to most humans.
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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.

Thats true. I have more control over my atmosphere now. As a child and teen not so much I was still very dependant. click to expand


I mean by all means if you feel the need to go by what bluemoon provided to you then be my guess but honestly I wouldn't. So don't let me get in the way of that. People being jealous of others can come from a number of other things beside birth chart. I think in your op you mention something about being quiet and keep to yourself if I'm not mistaking. Then there's your answer. You answered your own question. Because if you were the loud obnoxious type nobody wouldn't find the strength to waste any time being jealous of you. Besides I was kind of drunk anyway when I first approach this thread and I only skimmed thru your op without even reading the whole thing line by line so I responded to the one I found interesting.
I dont think being quiet is the reason for all of it. Me and my sister were both quiet kids. My sister was more shy. I got physically abused while my sister remained untouched. She only has loud bpd now. My mom got in her head but cradled her every move. click to expand


True. But there are a number of things quiet people get jealous of. Like for example if you just so much as wearing something nice that can get heads turning in your direction and a look of jealous but let someone else wear the same nice thing and what do you get? Nothing. I wanna think I was the most shyest out of all my siblings and I was always the one to get the most beatings from my parents. I don't know why and that's why I feel hated on. I literally grew into that fact of being hated on from people. I don't know if it's because I'm the chosen one or what but I can't figure it out and I'm not gonna even try. What's done is done. And what's bpd? What is the official spelling of it? And also I'm sorry you got physically abused.


Borderline personality disorder. I have quiet bpd i internalize things. Its from emotional abuse. Your personality is basically a survival tactic. Sadly. Its ok. I dont believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I am way too close to God to relate to most humans.
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Damn that sound like something I do, internalize things. I probably got that mental illness too and don't know it. I don't relate to humans because I feel odd and that is why I don't feel close to no one. I try not to put myself in the need to ask people anything or ask for anything. But I can understand when someone don't relate to humans
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@Wild-of-you-to-say lemme ask you a few questions. You really don't have to answer if these question bothers you or if you feel uncomfortable to answer though I would like to know but it's not important or anything. Ok now on with the questions. Do you think people outside your loved ones would truly care if you die or live? Do you think people you know for years that you call friends and that their still your friends that ain't kin to you will attend your funeral if you die? I mean I hope it don't happen but it's just questions.

You see, I ask these questions for a reason. Because somehow I feel like you're a true introvert who don't say much and someone who keeps to themselves much like me just by reading your op. And I feel like nobody would give a shit if something bad happen to me, as a matter of fact I think they'll laugh at me if something bad happen to me. Now there's a good example of jealous people for you. When they don't like to see you all happy and shit they won't care if you live one day and die the next.
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I get you. You can be completely unextraordinary and there’s people who are jealous or trying to compete with you. It’s honestly so fucking annoying that I stopped giving a fuck and just act completely nonchalant which ironically makes them more curious about me. It’s weird because you want to scream like stop being so obsessed with me ?? We had this one super religious/spiritual middle aged client that got into an altercation with our legal office.. once everything cooled down and got settled, he turned to me before he left (I wasn’t even the main person doing his case) and told me to protect my energy when I go out all dressed up as my best, he sensed a lot of envy around that. Eerie. It’s like I’m sure other people also try to dress their best ?? I don’t even know how to put on eye shadow ffs 😭

I can’t handle this weird superficial shit. Thank God I barely talk to people so they can be competitive with me all they want inside their own little heads. You just have to cut people off. Solves like 90% of your problems. I do have some astrological indicators of this towards me but have also used ChatGPT to do all sorts of readings, including looking across different systems like bazi and vedic for any consistencies for entertainment.

But honestly there’s just a lot of sad people out there who have pathetic lives that need to provoke others. I assume majority of people fall into those two groups. You’re either sad and pathetic or you’re genuinely minding your own shit 🤷‍♀️

You say you consider yourself very close to God and don’t believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I personally consider myself more on the spiritual side than most and also don’t believe in those things. It could also be our aura attracting them lol.
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That's natural. Most people don't like to see some people happy and actually want them wallowing in misery right along with them. I get the stink face from other people when they see me happy simply because they don't like me and don't like to see me happy but I pay them no attention. Just keep doing what you do and don't let people bother you. Ignore them and just be you. Yourself. I don't look to my birth chart to see what's in it for jealousy, envy or what have you. The hate is real out there.


Thats true. I have more control over my atmosphere now. As a child and teen not so much I was still very dependant. click to expand

I mean by all means if you feel the need to go by what bluemoon provided to you then be my guess but honestly I wouldn't. So don't let me get in the way of that. People being jealous of others can come from a number of other things beside birth chart. I think in your op you mention something about being quiet and keep to yourself if I'm not mistaking. Then there's your answer. You answered your own question. Because if you were the loud obnoxious type nobody wouldn't find the strength to waste any time being jealous of you. Besides I was kind of drunk anyway when I first approach this thread and I only skimmed thru your op without even reading the whole thing line by line so I responded to the one I found interesting.

I dont think being quiet is the reason for all of it. Me and my sister were both quiet kids. My sister was more shy. I got physically abused while my sister remained untouched. She only has loud bpd now. My mom got in her head but cradled her every move. click to expand

True. But there are a number of things quiet people get jealous of. Like for example if you just so much as wearing something nice that can get heads turning in your direction and a look of jealous but let someone else wear the same nice thing and what do you get? Nothing. I wanna think I was the most shyest out of all my siblings and I was always the one to get the most beatings from my parents. I don't know why and that's why I feel hated on. I literally grew into that fact of being hated on from people. I don't know if it's because I'm the chosen one or what but I can't figure it out and I'm not gonna even try. What's done is done. And what's bpd? What is the official spelling of it? And also I'm sorry you got physically abused.


Borderline personality disorder. I have quiet bpd i internalize things. Its from emotional abuse. Your personality is basically a survival tactic. Sadly. Its ok. I dont believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I am way too close to God to relate to most humans.click to expand

Damn that sound like something I do, internalize things. I probably got that mental illness too and don't know it. I don't relate to humans because I feel odd and that is why I don't feel close to no one. I try not to put myself in the need to ask people anything or ask for anything. But I can understand when someone don't relate to humans
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Theres also a few other things that align with being quiet bpd. Your a runner. First to dump, first to leave, self blame....
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@Wild-of-you-to-say lemme ask you a few questions. You really don't have to answer if these question bothers you or if you feel uncomfortable to answer though I would like to know but it's not important or anything. Ok now on with the questions. Do you think people outside your loved ones would truly care if you die or live? Do you think people you know for years that you call friends and that their still your friends that ain't kin to you will attend your funeral if you die? I mean I hope it don't happen but it's just questions.

You see, I ask these questions for a reason. Because somehow I feel like you're a true introvert who don't say much and someone who keeps to themselves much like me just by reading your op. And I feel like nobody would give a shit if something bad happen to me, as a matter of fact I think they'll laugh at me if something bad happen to me. Now there's a good example of jealous people for you. When they don't like to see you all happy and shit they won't care if you live one day and die the next.


I never think about any of that stuff. Its not important to me. People who choose to be unhappy and dont like to see me happy dont have valid opinions of me. Im just curious how it is that tons of people get like this with me. Makes me feel like a walking trigger and I wonder how I can help others heal through the triggering. I do know that being triggered is like reaching a scab, it belongs to a wound that needs healing.
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I get you. You can be completely unextraordinary and there’s people who are jealous or trying to compete with you. It’s honestly so fucking annoying that I stopped giving a fuck and just act completely nonchalant which ironically makes them more curious about me. It’s weird because you want to scream like stop being so obsessed with me ?? We had this one super religious/spiritual middle aged client that got into an altercation with our legal office.. once everything cooled down and got settled, he turned to me before he left (I wasn’t even the main person doing his case) and told me to protect my energy when I go out all dressed up as my best, he sensed a lot of envy around that. Eerie. It’s like I’m sure other people also try to dress their best ?? I don’t even know how to put on eye shadow ffs 😭

I can’t handle this weird superficial shit. Thank God I barely talk to people so they can be competitive with me all they want inside their own little heads. You just have to cut people off. Solves like 90% of your problems. I do have some astrological indicators of this towards me but have also used ChatGPT to do all sorts of readings, including looking across different systems like bazi and vedic for any consistencies for entertainment.

But honestly there’s just a lot of sad people out there who have pathetic lives that need to provoke others. I assume majority of people fall into those two groups. You’re either sad and pathetic or you’re genuinely minding your own shit 🤷‍♀️

You say you consider yourself very close to God and don’t believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I personally consider myself more on the spiritual side than most and also don’t believe in those things. It could also be our aura attracting them lol.


You said our Aura attracting them and this is exactly why I wanted to look at what it is in my birth chart because I know that certain placements can produce certain energies and I wonder what it is about me that attracts people to me but then they end up hating me for that same exact reason that they are drawn to me and I don't know exactly what it is maybe it is my energy or my aura. It's interesting to observe I definitely feel like I am an observer to all of these things that go on around my life not exactly having a reaction. But when I see repeating patterns it makes me curious and I want to dig and I want to learn more
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It does help to look at astrology since this is an astrology forum after all, but really there’s no excuse for those people to treat others like shit just because of trauma ( some people are just evil but some ppl do it because it probably happened to them) so instead of healing themselves they go on to poison relationships with others. I can relate with how you feel , but I come to realize some people truly don’t change. I wish them the best but I guess the sooner that I realized that it becomes much easier to just cut off contact.

don’t let it make you think something is wrong with you just because of the abuse you suffered
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It does help to look at astrology since this is an astrology forum after all, but really there’s no excuse for those people to treat others like shit just because of trauma ( some people are just evil but some ppl do it because it probably happened to them) so instead of healing themselves they go on to poison relationships with others. I can relate with how you feel , but I come to realize some people truly don’t change. I wish them the best but I guess the sooner that I realized that it becomes much easier to just cut off contact.

don’t let it make you think something is wrong with you just because of the abuse you suffered


I don't let it bother me anymore. I actually blamed myself for alot of it and drank my 20s away because of that trauma. Im in my late 30s now and understand it was never about me. But I do see a pattern of people being drawn to me and then wanting to squash me like a bug.
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What's your chart look like?

It seems you befriend the type of people cause of your upbringing.

Trauma is messy because it wires our brains to believe that what's wrong is right. Its like a sickness and in some cases it never heals because we can't recognize it or choose to live with it.


I dont befriend anyone.

People are around me and want to be my friend. I watch people before I invest. I cant be this traumatized and unintelligent. I am a runner. One red flag and I am gone. I learned way too much from not running
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What's your chart look like?

It seems you befriend the type of people cause of your upbringing.

Trauma is messy because it wires our brains to believe that what's wrong is right. Its like a sickness and in some cases it never heals because we can't recognize it or choose to live with it.


I dont befriend anyone.

People are around me and want to be my friend. I watch people before I invest. I cant be this traumatized and unintelligent. I am a runner. One red flag and I am gone. I learned way too much from not running
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I see. I've got the same problem actually. But I'm really good at detecting enemies and manipulating them. I've gotten better at it over the years but it was very tough and frustrating when I was younger. I would befriend a lot of people that wanted to sabotage me and was clueless up until maybe my late 20s.

Astrologywise Ive heard it's my Lilith conjunct ascendant but could also be the plutonic energy in my chart. My best friend who is an Aqua born a few days from me has the same issue as well but he is more oblivious to it (Leo moon) whereas my Scorpio moon is more paranoid.

My non astrological theory is that I'm just not an envious person and am pretty confident (realistically) and that irks some people. I actually pick up on people's weaknesses so I'm rarely caught feeling intimidated. Could also be that.
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Before you jump on me and think I am trying to hoot my own horn. I want to explain how this specific pattern destroyed me. (I have cptsd and quiet bpd as a result) when I was little my mother physically abused me, pretty bad. Im not talking about spankings, I am talking about black eyes and beating me with hard objects (my father was home like once every two months so he never knew) she constantly accused me of sleeping with my father when he was home. I had no idea what she was talking about or what I did to make her believe that. Pretty gross if you ask me. Then in middle school all the way up into my late 20s my sister constantly slept with my bfs. Good way to weed out the cheaters but she did this to other women too. One day I asked her why and she said it makes her feel better than the other woman. So my own sister sees me as competition. My own two very close best friends in Middle School through high school hated me as well and I found out because I found little folds of paper in my best friend's purse after she asked me to grab a lighter and it had my home phone number with a note above it that said free sex. So she was handing these out to guys that were horny or what ever. Mind you I had been with my bf for over a year so I dont understand the hate. They eventually came to my dads house and threatened to stab me because I ghosted them (no longer interested after what I found)

My ex that cheated on me with my sister thought that I was a hoe and he had one of his friends rape me and that's how I lost my virginity, I was 12. He laughed at me. When he found out who I was dating who my first love was he went and decided to go be best friends with him and told him a story about how we had sex like 12 different times which is not true cuz I was obviously a virgin. (I ended up taking my first loves virginity a year into seeing each other)

I could write a novel about the traumatizing shit I've been through because of people's jealousy towards me and there's nothing to brag about here I legitimately want to know what's in my chart that makes people feel this way about me?

Is it because I am kind and full of love? I noticed alot of these people grew angrier with me the more they saw me happy and thriving. Im scared to get to know people. I have never done anything ill towards somebody else and I have a close relationship with God. Where in my birth chart should I look?

I am also an empath, I can feel people thinking and I am good at verbalizing what I feel or see. I heard that empaths mirror people and people dont like looking at themselves but I was not really good at my abilities until late 20s early 30s.


I'm not even gon lie it's less about ppl being jealous of you and more like you've just been around a bunch of literal demons lol that's literally how most people are in this world but I think you've kinda brought it down to jealousy which I think could be true too but it's not the prime factor, maybe like #2 but I feel u man that shit crazy smh
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I hear that Venus opposition Moon in a chart can cause envy in other women. Mars in the 6th house can cause coworkers to be envious.

This world is so full of hate and evilness. It may be a good idea to just spend time in nature.


I keep to myself and enjoy nature, my animals and my son. This is what I found from my chart:

Planet Aspect Planet Orb Value

Sun Square Lilith 1°02' -58

Sun Conjunction N Node 8°00'

Moon Sextile Mars 2°49'

Moon Trine Jupiter 0°10'

Moon Trine Lilith 7°22'

Moon Conjunction I ASC 6°2

Mercury Conjunction Venus 9°34

Mercury Conjunction Saturn 5°'

Mercury Conjunction Uranus 6°

Mercury Conjunction Neptune 0°3

Mercury Sextile Pluto 3°59'

Mercury Sextile Lilith 4°09'

Venus Conjunction Saturn 4°2

Mars Opposition Jupiter 2°39

Mars Conjunction Uranus 7°5

Mars Conjunction X MC 8°59

Jupiter Opposition Uranus 5°21

Jupiter Trine Lilith 7°32'

Jupiter Trine I ASC 6°38'

Saturn Conjunction Neptune 5°48

Saturn Sextile Pluto 1°11'

Uranus Conjunction Neptune 5°42

Uranus Sextile Lilith 2°11'

Uranus Sextile I ASC 1°17'

Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°36'

Neptune Sextile Lilith 3°31'

Neptune Sextile I ASC 4°25'

Pluto Conjunction Lilith 8°08

Pluto Square N Node 1°09'

Lilith Trine I ASC 0°54' click to expand

These placements as well:

- Sun opposite/Square Ascendant

- Scorpio/Taurus ruled 7th house, or lord of the 7th in Venusian signs (7th rules open enemies)

- Lord of the 7th squaring Venus or Lord of 7th conjunct/opposite/square Pluto

- MC in Scorpio

- Pluto in 10th or 11th, 1st house too

- ⁠Venus oppose/conjunct/Square Pluto

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Mmm yea I got the sun square asc one and I got lord of the 7th in venus since my 7th house is in libra. I'm not surprised. That sun in aquarius and cancer asc square probably fuckin me up fr
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I get you. You can be completely unextraordinary and there’s people who are jealous or trying to compete with you. It’s honestly so fucking annoying that I stopped giving a fuck and just act completely nonchalant which ironically makes them more curious about me. It’s weird because you want to scream like stop being so obsessed with me ?? We had this one super religious/spiritual middle aged client that got into an altercation with our legal office.. once everything cooled down and got settled, he turned to me before he left (I wasn’t even the main person doing his case) and told me to protect my energy when I go out all dressed up as my best, he sensed a lot of envy around that. Eerie. It’s like I’m sure other people also try to dress their best ?? I don’t even know how to put on eye shadow ffs 😭

I can’t handle this weird superficial shit. Thank God I barely talk to people so they can be competitive with me all they want inside their own little heads. You just have to cut people off. Solves like 90% of your problems. I do have some astrological indicators of this towards me but have also used ChatGPT to do all sorts of readings, including looking across different systems like bazi and vedic for any consistencies for entertainment.

But honestly there’s just a lot of sad people out there who have pathetic lives that need to provoke others. I assume majority of people fall into those two groups. You’re either sad and pathetic or you’re genuinely minding your own shit 🤷‍♀️

You say you consider yourself very close to God and don’t believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I personally consider myself more on the spiritual side than most and also don’t believe in those things. It could also be our aura attracting them lol.

You said our Aura attracting them and this is exactly why I wanted to look at what it is in my birth chart because I know that certain placements can produce certain energies and I wonder what it is about me that attracts people to me but then they end up hating me for that same exact reason that they are drawn to me and I don't know exactly what it is maybe it is my energy or my aura. It's interesting to observe I definitely feel like I am an observer to all of these things that go on around my life not exactly having a reaction. But when I see repeating patterns it makes me curious and I want to dig and I want to learn more
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Are you able to send your full natal chart with houses from astro.com? I personally have a lot of Pluto energy. Pluto in the border of 12th/1st house (Pluto in 12th house has a theme of secret enemies, hidden jealousy and behind-the-scene dramas), Pluto conj Asc. Majority of my personal planets sq Pluto in fixed signs.
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I get you. You can be completely unextraordinary and there’s people who are jealous or trying to compete with you. It’s honestly so fucking annoying that I stopped giving a fuck and just act completely nonchalant which ironically makes them more curious about me. It’s weird because you want to scream like stop being so obsessed with me ?? We had this one super religious/spiritual middle aged client that got into an altercation with our legal office.. once everything cooled down and got settled, he turned to me before he left (I wasn’t even the main person doing his case) and told me to protect my energy when I go out all dressed up as my best, he sensed a lot of envy around that. Eerie. It’s like I’m sure other people also try to dress their best ?? I don’t even know how to put on eye shadow ffs 😭

I can’t handle this weird superficial shit. Thank God I barely talk to people so they can be competitive with me all they want inside their own little heads. You just have to cut people off. Solves like 90% of your problems. I do have some astrological indicators of this towards me but have also used ChatGPT to do all sorts of readings, including looking across different systems like bazi and vedic for any consistencies for entertainment.

But honestly there’s just a lot of sad people out there who have pathetic lives that need to provoke others. I assume majority of people fall into those two groups. You’re either sad and pathetic or you’re genuinely minding your own shit 🤷‍♀️

You say you consider yourself very close to God and don’t believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I personally consider myself more on the spiritual side than most and also don’t believe in those things. It could also be our aura attracting them lol.


You said our Aura attracting them and this is exactly why I wanted to look at what it is in my birth chart because I know that certain placements can produce certain energies and I wonder what it is about me that attracts people to me but then they end up hating me for that same exact reason that they are drawn to me and I don't know exactly what it is maybe it is my energy or my aura. It's interesting to observe I definitely feel like I am an observer to all of these things that go on around my life not exactly having a reaction. But when I see repeating patterns it makes me curious and I want to dig and I want to learn moreclick to expand
Are you able to send your full natal chart with houses from astro.com? I personally have a lot of Pluto energy. Pluto in the border of 12th/1st house (Pluto in 12th house has a theme of secret enemies, hidden jealousy and behind-the-scene dramas), Pluto conj Asc. Majority of my personal planets sq Pluto in fixed signs.
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Before you jump on me and think I am trying to hoot my own horn. I want to explain how this specific pattern destroyed me. (I have cptsd and quiet bpd as a result) when I was little my mother physically abused me, pretty bad. Im not talking about spankings, I am talking about black eyes and beating me with hard objects (my father was home like once every two months so he never knew) she constantly accused me of sleeping with my father when he was home. I had no idea what she was talking about or what I did to make her believe that. Pretty gross if you ask me. Then in middle school all the way up into my late 20s my sister constantly slept with my bfs. Good way to weed out the cheaters but she did this to other women too. One day I asked her why and she said it makes her feel better than the other woman. So my own sister sees me as competition. My own two very close best friends in Middle School through high school hated me as well and I found out because I found little folds of paper in my best friend's purse after she asked me to grab a lighter and it had my home phone number with a note above it that said free sex. So she was handing these out to guys that were horny or what ever. Mind you I had been with my bf for over a year so I dont understand the hate. They eventually came to my dads house and threatened to stab me because I ghosted them (no longer interested after what I found)

My ex that cheated on me with my sister thought that I was a hoe and he had one of his friends rape me and that's how I lost my virginity, I was 12. He laughed at me. When he found out who I was dating who my first love was he went and decided to go be best friends with him and told him a story about how we had sex like 12 different times which is not true cuz I was obviously a virgin. (I ended up taking my first loves virginity a year into seeing each other)

I could write a novel about the traumatizing shit I've been through because of people's jealousy towards me and there's nothing to brag about here I legitimately want to know what's in my chart that makes people feel this way about me?

Is it because I am kind and full of love? I noticed alot of these people grew angrier with me the more they saw me happy and thriving. Im scared to get to know people. I have never done anything ill towards somebody else and I have a close relationship with God. Where in my birth chart should I look?

I am also an empath, I can feel people thinking and I am good at verbalizing what I feel or see. I heard that empaths mirror people and people dont like looking at themselves but I was not really good at my abilities until late 20s early 30s.

I'm not even gon lie it's less about ppl being jealous of you and more like you've just been around a bunch of literal demons lol that's literally how most people are in this world but I think you've kinda brought it down to jealousy which I think could be true too but it's not the prime factor, maybe like #2 but I feel u man that shit crazy smh
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Looking back on it their energy felt demonic, how ever I was young and couldnt put my finger on it. Im usually curious about things I cant put my finger on, even if its negative
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I hear that Venus opposition Moon in a chart can cause envy in other women. Mars in the 6th house can cause coworkers to be envious.

This world is so full of hate and evilness. It may be a good idea to just spend time in nature.


I keep to myself and enjoy nature, my animals and my son. This is what I found from my chart:

Planet Aspect Planet Orb Value

Sun Square Lilith 1°02' -58

Sun Conjunction N Node 8°00'

Moon Sextile Mars 2°49'

Moon Trine Jupiter 0°10'

Moon Trine Lilith 7°22'

Moon Conjunction I ASC 6°2

Mercury Conjunction Venus 9°34

Mercury Conjunction Saturn 5°'

Mercury Conjunction Uranus 6°

Mercury Conjunction Neptune 0°3

Mercury Sextile Pluto 3°59'

Mercury Sextile Lilith 4°09'

Venus Conjunction Saturn 4°2

Mars Opposition Jupiter 2°39

Mars Conjunction Uranus 7°5

Mars Conjunction X MC 8°59

Jupiter Opposition Uranus 5°21

Jupiter Trine Lilith 7°32'

Jupiter Trine I ASC 6°38'

Saturn Conjunction Neptune 5°48

Saturn Sextile Pluto 1°11'

Uranus Conjunction Neptune 5°42

Uranus Sextile Lilith 2°11'

Uranus Sextile I ASC 1°17'

Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°36'

Neptune Sextile Lilith 3°31'

Neptune Sextile I ASC 4°25'

Pluto Conjunction Lilith 8°08

Pluto Square N Node 1°09'

Lilith Trine I ASC 0°54' click to expand


These placements as well:

- Sun opposite/Square Ascendant

- Scorpio/Taurus ruled 7th house, or lord of the 7th in Venusian signs (7th rules open enemies)

- Lord of the 7th squaring Venus or Lord of 7th conjunct/opposite/square Pluto

- MC in Scorpio

- Pluto in 10th or 11th, 1st house too

- ⁠Venus oppose/conjunct/Square Pluto

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Mmm yea I got the sun square asc one and I got lord of the 7th in venus since my 7th house is in libra. I'm not surprised. That sun in aquarius and cancer asc square probably fuckin me up fr
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On a good note, aqua sun and cancer rising is such a beautiful placement
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I get you. You can be completely unextraordinary and there’s people who are jealous or trying to compete with you. It’s honestly so fucking annoying that I stopped giving a fuck and just act completely nonchalant which ironically makes them more curious about me. It’s weird because you want to scream like stop being so obsessed with me ?? We had this one super religious/spiritual middle aged client that got into an altercation with our legal office.. once everything cooled down and got settled, he turned to me before he left (I wasn’t even the main person doing his case) and told me to protect my energy when I go out all dressed up as my best, he sensed a lot of envy around that. Eerie. It’s like I’m sure other people also try to dress their best ?? I don’t even know how to put on eye shadow ffs 😭

I can’t handle this weird superficial shit. Thank God I barely talk to people so they can be competitive with me all they want inside their own little heads. You just have to cut people off. Solves like 90% of your problems. I do have some astrological indicators of this towards me but have also used ChatGPT to do all sorts of readings, including looking across different systems like bazi and vedic for any consistencies for entertainment.

But honestly there’s just a lot of sad people out there who have pathetic lives that need to provoke others. I assume majority of people fall into those two groups. You’re either sad and pathetic or you’re genuinely minding your own shit 🤷‍♀️

You say you consider yourself very close to God and don’t believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I personally consider myself more on the spiritual side than most and also don’t believe in those things. It could also be our aura attracting them lol.

You said our Aura attracting them and this is exactly why I wanted to look at what it is in my birth chart because I know that certain placements can produce certain energies and I wonder what it is about me that attracts people to me but then they end up hating me for that same exact reason that they are drawn to me and I don't know exactly what it is maybe it is my energy or my aura. It's interesting to observe I definitely feel like I am an observer to all of these things that go on around my life not exactly having a reaction. But when I see repeating patterns it makes me curious and I want to dig and I want to learn moreclick to expand

Are you able to send your full natal chart with houses from astro.com? I personally have a lot of Pluto energy. Pluto in the border of 12th/1st house (Pluto in 12th house has a theme of secret enemies, hidden jealousy and behind-the-scene dramas), Pluto conj Asc. Majority of my personal planets sq Pluto in fixed signs.click to expand

Send to you? Im not sure how to post pics
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I meant to say post.

https://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi

After you create your chart, you save the picture.

Upload it here: https://imgbb.com/

Look at the HTML full link, copy and paste here the part starting from the 2nd https: to .png

There’s no way to help without seeing the entire chart.
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It does help to look at astrology since this is an astrology forum after all, but really there’s no excuse for those people to treat others like shit just because of trauma ( some people are just evil but some ppl do it because it probably happened to them) so instead of healing themselves they go on to poison relationships with others. I can relate with how you feel , but I come to realize some people truly don’t change. I wish them the best but I guess the sooner that I realized that it becomes much easier to just cut off contact.

don’t let it make you think something is wrong with you just because of the abuse you suffered

I don't let it bother me anymore. I actually blamed myself for alot of it and drank my 20s away because of that trauma. Im in my late 30s now and understand it was never about me. But I do see a pattern of people being drawn to me and then wanting to squash me like a bug.
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i hope u got the help that you needed. its good to know that life gets better, once you realize. in my 20s now only realizing how fked up things were, when you kind of live through it feels kind of easy to accept it as normal- your brain tries to reason with it. it is interesting to see astrologically though. what is in your 12th house? (house of hidden enemies), i have scorpio so that would mean power dynamics and sun in the 8th so a difficult relationship with father

there could also be karmic patterns too but often times i felt that was just me trying to justify that why things are the way they are
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It does help to look at astrology since this is an astrology forum after all, but really there’s no excuse for those people to treat others like shit just because of trauma ( some people are just evil but some ppl do it because it probably happened to them) so instead of healing themselves they go on to poison relationships with others. I can relate with how you feel , but I come to realize some people truly don’t change. I wish them the best but I guess the sooner that I realized that it becomes much easier to just cut off contact.

don’t let it make you think something is wrong with you just because of the abuse you suffered


I don't let it bother me anymore. I actually blamed myself for alot of it and drank my 20s away because of that trauma. Im in my late 30s now and understand it was never about me. But I do see a pattern of people being drawn to me and then wanting to squash me like a bug. click to expand

i hope u got the help that you needed. its good to know that life gets better, once you realize. in my 20s now only realizing how fked up things were, when you kind of live through it feels kind of easy to accept it as normal- your brain tries to reason with it. it is interesting to see astrologically though. what is in your 12th house? (house of hidden enemies), i have scorpio so that would mean power dynamics and sun in the 8th so a difficult relationship with father

there could also be karmic patterns too but often times i felt that was just me trying to justify that why things are the way they are
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I have 12th house Aquarius sun and 12th house pisces moon. I used to think about it being karmic too, but I also believe other people might be experiencing a lifetime in which they are going through it (probably sounds like an excuse) but I believe pain is an excellent teacher. .when we listen and learn from it.
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I get you. You can be completely unextraordinary and there’s people who are jealous or trying to compete with you. It’s honestly so fucking annoying that I stopped giving a fuck and just act completely nonchalant which ironically makes them more curious about me. It’s weird because you want to scream like stop being so obsessed with me ?? We had this one super religious/spiritual middle aged client that got into an altercation with our legal office.. once everything cooled down and got settled, he turned to me before he left (I wasn’t even the main person doing his case) and told me to protect my energy when I go out all dressed up as my best, he sensed a lot of envy around that. Eerie. It’s like I’m sure other people also try to dress their best ?? I don’t even know how to put on eye shadow ffs 😭

I can’t handle this weird superficial shit. Thank God I barely talk to people so they can be competitive with me all they want inside their own little heads. You just have to cut people off. Solves like 90% of your problems. I do have some astrological indicators of this towards me but have also used ChatGPT to do all sorts of readings, including looking across different systems like bazi and vedic for any consistencies for entertainment.

But honestly there’s just a lot of sad people out there who have pathetic lives that need to provoke others. I assume majority of people fall into those two groups. You’re either sad and pathetic or you’re genuinely minding your own shit 🤷‍♀️

You say you consider yourself very close to God and don’t believe in lust or jealousy because it achieves nothing. I personally consider myself more on the spiritual side than most and also don’t believe in those things. It could also be our aura attracting them lol.


You said our Aura attracting them and this is exactly why I wanted to look at what it is in my birth chart because I know that certain placements can produce certain energies and I wonder what it is about me that attracts people to me but then they end up hating me for that same exact reason that they are drawn to me and I don't know exactly what it is maybe it is my energy or my aura. It's interesting to observe I definitely feel like I am an observer to all of these things that go on around my life not exactly having a reaction. But when I see repeating patterns it makes me curious and I want to dig and I want to learn moreclick to expand
Are you able to send your full natal chart with houses from astro.com? I personally have a lot of Pluto energy. Pluto in the border of 12th/1st house (Pluto in 12th house has a theme of secret enemies, hidden jealousy and behind-the-scene dramas), Pluto conj Asc. Majority of my personal planets sq Pluto in fixed signs.click to expand


Send to you? Im not sure how to post picsclick to expand
I meant to say post.

https://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi

After you create your chart, you save the picture.

Upload it here: https://imgbb.com/

Look at the HTML full link, copy and paste here the part starting from the 2nd https: to .png

There’s no way to help without seeing the entire chart.
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It does help to look at astrology since this is an astrology forum after all, but really there’s no excuse for those people to treat others like shit just because of trauma ( some people are just evil but some ppl do it because it probably happened to them) so instead of healing themselves they go on to poison relationships with others. I can relate with how you feel , but I come to realize some people truly don’t change. I wish them the best but I guess the sooner that I realized that it becomes much easier to just cut off contact.

don’t let it make you think something is wrong with you just because of the abuse you suffered

I don't let it bother me anymore. I actually blamed myself for alot of it and drank my 20s away because of that trauma. Im in my late 30s now and understand it was never about me. But I do see a pattern of people being drawn to me and then wanting to squash me like a bug. click to expand


i hope u got the help that you needed. its good to know that life gets better, once you realize. in my 20s now only realizing how fked up things were, when you kind of live through it feels kind of easy to accept it as normal- your brain tries to reason with it. it is interesting to see astrologically though. what is in your 12th house? (house of hidden enemies), i have scorpio so that would mean power dynamics and sun in the 8th so a difficult relationship with father

there could also be karmic patterns too but often times i felt that was just me trying to justify that why things are the way they areclick to expand

I have 12th house Aquarius sun and 12th house pisces moon. I used to think about it being karmic too, but I also believe other people might be experiencing a lifetime in which they are going through it (probably sounds like an excuse) but I believe pain is an excellent teacher. .when we listen and learn from it.
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NOT too familiar with aspects as much but 12th house in both your sun and moon that could explain distant parents and victimization. i wonder about the unfairness of it all, why is it the same person dealing with all this and the ones could benefit from it never have lessons to learn. i feel that the universe plays a sick joke sometimes
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It does help to look at astrology since this is an astrology forum after all, but really there’s no excuse for those people to treat others like shit just because of trauma ( some people are just evil but some ppl do it because it probably happened to them) so instead of healing themselves they go on to poison relationships with others. I can relate with how you feel , but I come to realize some people truly don’t change. I wish them the best but I guess the sooner that I realized that it becomes much easier to just cut off contact.

don’t let it make you think something is wrong with you just because of the abuse you suffered


I don't let it bother me anymore. I actually blamed myself for alot of it and drank my 20s away because of that trauma. Im in my late 30s now and understand it was never about me. But I do see a pattern of people being drawn to me and then wanting to squash me like a bug. click to expand

i hope u got the help that you needed. its good to know that life gets better, once you realize. in my 20s now only realizing how fked up things were, when you kind of live through it feels kind of easy to accept it as normal- your brain tries to reason with it. it is interesting to see astrologically though. what is in your 12th house? (house of hidden enemies), i have scorpio so that would mean power dynamics and sun in the 8th so a difficult relationship with father

there could also be karmic patterns too but often times i felt that was just me trying to justify that why things are the way they areclick to expand


I have 12th house Aquarius sun and 12th house pisces moon. I used to think about it being karmic too, but I also believe other people might be experiencing a lifetime in which they are going through it (probably sounds like an excuse) but I believe pain is an excellent teacher. .when we listen and learn from it. click to expand

NOT too familiar with aspects as much but 12th house in both your sun and moon that could explain distant parents and victimization. i wonder about the unfairness of it all, why is it the same person dealing with all this and the ones could benefit from it never have lessons to learn. i feel that the universe plays a sick joke sometimes
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I think this life time is where I learn that love and empathy are the true power tools. This life time has been everything I needed to grow.
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The 7th house is open enemies and relationships

The 12th house is secret enemies (people that probably talk behind your back or jealousy)

You look for rulers of both to see where they might come from for example let’s say the ruler of your 7th house is in the 6th house then you can have some enemies at work or if the ruler of your 12th house is in the the 11th house you might have a fake friend that you’re not aware of that secretly plots your downfall
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Ok you're a 12th houser. That explains it all. I have a lot of close people with 12th house Suns. They all have problems with their mom.

Also they often attract people that betray them or use them. I think it comes with the Pisces archetype. Although most 4th or 8th housers share the betrayal/abuse upbringing.

Honestly I used to think they were crazy cause they claim to see things no one else does (which I now believe)
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Ok you're a 12th houser. That explains it all. I have a lot of close people with 12th house Suns. They all have problems with their mom.

Also they often attract people that betray them or use them. I think it comes with the Pisces archetype. Although most 4th or 8th housers share the betrayal/abuse upbringing.

Honestly I used to think they were crazy cause they claim to see things no one else does (which I now believe)


We aren't crazy. I actually keep screenshots of people saying crazy things to me and acting weird towards me because you would not believe it if I did not have proof. Its wild over here and I feel bad for anyone else that has this kind of affect on people. I read that 12th house placements are in the deep mind and heart, and have empath, psychic stuff going on, which is true but its not for the weak. I imagine if I took all of the hate I have recieved; personally, I would probably off myself, how ever Im very detached from observation and experience and it allows me to witness things knowing that it is not a reflection of me.