All men are not the same, get it out of your head!

One thing that pisses me off more than the Washington Redskins is these emotionally damaged women placing the blame on EVERY man for this one selfish bum that didn't care about anything but himself. You've never dated a MAN, because if you did you'd be treated with the trust and respect you give to him tenfold. You've been scouting children, and these children want only certain things from you and sacrifice only things you cherish that doesn't mean much of anything to them to keep your shattered heart in their back pocket(flattering compliments, heartfelt apologies, money, etc). If you believe that all men are the same, then you'll never find a man, and eliminating this type of ignorance from your existance is your only remedy to this serious mental illness.

"and eliminating this type of ignorance from your existance is your only remedy to this serious mental illness."

yep. 😉 agreed BigD

change your thoughts, and you will change your world.

"You've never dated a MAN, because if you did you'd be treated with the trust and respect you give to him tenfold. You've been scouting children, and these children want only certain things from you and sacrifice only things you cherish that doesn't mean much of anything to them to keep your shattered heart in their back pocket(flattering compliments, heartfelt apologies, money, etc)."

You're absolutely right, but you also have to understand that heartbreak happens at EVERY age & infidelity & "games" occur just as often in marriages & relationships involving older & more mature individuals. The divorce rate is 56% in the United States right now. And everybody man says that it's not fair that they have to take the fall for what ONE man did, but the reality is, most of the time pain that continues to leap into other relationships involves more than just ONE person that hurt you in the past. The truth is, most women have been played MORE THAN ONCE & unfortunately, just because men grow up, get expensive cars, own their own business' & have children doesn't mean that they grow up. If anything adultery & emotional, verbal & physical abuse are more likely to occur to women and men ages 35+ (which is clearly an age that passes the "children" phase.

"You're absolutely right, but you also have to understand that heartbreak happens at EVERY age & infidelity & "games" occur just as often in marriages & relationships involving older & more mature individuals."

...and you are absolutely right as well! However, it is the responsibility of the person who has been in relationships where their hearts have been "broken" to find a way to heal themselves and not stay in "victim" role so that are able to move past those past "hurts" allowing themselves the opportunity to experience happy, healthy, rewarding and successful relationships.

Oh you're absolutely right about that. It is NEVER a good thing to bring baggage to the Next relationship because not only are you cheating that person but more worse, you're cheating yourself. I was just pointing out that alot of people think that this type of scenario happens in younger relationships ONLY & that even grown men & women have these same problems. And the problem is, everybody's definition of a MAN is different. When you're 21, you're definition of a "Real man" might include a man who's older in age & a little bit more experienced in relationships. To a 35 year old, their version of a real man might involve a man who's established in his career & who's financially set (kids, career, etc). But the truth is alot of these same problems occur at ALL ages. And just like women are known for carrying their baggage to the next relationship, alot of men carry their same HABITS to the next relationship. And sometimes men are so used to expecting someone's baggage, they almost get immune to it

Krysrenee7, i meant that as EVERY man from ALL AGES. Once a CHILD of any age (and oh yes, selfishness and manipulation is to me extrememly childish) 50 years of age to 10 goes and corrupts the heart of a woman, the result is her believing and even discriminating against all men. I spoke to a woman who baffled me with her words of ignorance, how she could stand there and tell me who I am and how worthless I am when she doesn't even know who I am! Why is this? Well, I cut deeper into her shadowed heart and there I found that she's in a love with an "attractive man" about my age that openly cheats on her. Ok...LEAVE HIM! No...she tells me that he always sits her down at some expensive resturant and begs for forgiveness and tells her that he's just going through something but he really loves her and that one day they'll be married... GET REAL! No matter HOW OLD YOU ARE, if there's NO TRUST there is NO RELATIONSHIP!!! If there's no RESPECT, there is NO RELATIONSHIP!!! Married, binded, fused, siamese...it doesn't matter!

This is not my fault, ladies! To think, if her heart wasn't soo shattered to the point that she's blinded by that infant, we could've been friends...maybe even more than that!

Yeah well it goes both sides. There is always those women who are completely ignorant when it comes to the opposite sex but then again remember that just like all men are not dogs, ALL WOMEN ARE NOT man-haters either. But yeah, about the woman you know, that situation is crazy & perhaps this man particularly picked her to manipulate because he picked up on her vulnerability which unfortunately would show in any relationship she's in rather he's a good man or not. That is so sad

"goes and corrupts the heart of a woman, the result is her believing and even discriminating against all men"

IMHO, I believe women choose men that will treat her this way, just as she chooses to believe that all men are jerks. Just as their are "real" men out there, there are "real" women that know the difference between a loser and a catch.

I mean, it wouldn't work for a woman's belief system to choose a man who treats her with respect, because then she would have to admit all men are not the same. Typically, this is a protection mechanism that allows the woman to stay out a relationship that would be emotionally "real" or "adult" as you put it. Women like this usually experience something early in life, such as an emotionally abusive, absent, physcially abusive etc. father figure that truly, deep down, in ways she can't know or recognize on her own---affect ALL the choices she makes.

Your friend picks men like that because those are the men she is attracted to. She probably wouldn't be attracted to a mature, gentleman like yourself. Does that make any sense??

Makes alot of sense. It's no different than the statistics that show that the women who grow up without fathers are 3 times more likely to have more sexual partners during their lifetime than a woman who had a present father. OR Women who grew up with Smoking or alcoholic mothers are more likely to smoke or be alcoholics themselves in their adult stage. OR women who have been sexually/physically abused in their childhood are 7 times more likely to physically or sexually abuse their own kids. I do think that there is a correlation between what one has had already & what they will attract later & further look for in the future.

But then again, there are some women who believe they can tell the difference between a good man & a dog & this is not always the case. Not EVERYBODY can spot a dog from a mile away, no matter how experienced or intelligent they are. Hilary Clinton, for example or wives that have been betrayed years down the road (AFTER the relationship stages that paint a picture of rather the man is worth it or not) are examples that not EVERYONE can spot a dog. And I think the women that got played, even when they thought they had outsmarted the "game" are the most likely to have these "all men are dogs" feelings due to defeat. I know personally, I feel like I can spot a cheater from a mile away because alot of the "red flags" and signs that are usually there in the beginning are things that I pick up on but even I've been outsmarted & usually in those types of relationships where I only looked for the BEST & found out that he was actually the worst, did I feel defeated & outdone, thinking "Wow, even when you're trained to pick up on the red flags, thoroughly get to know someone before you jump into commitment, etc. there are is always that one guy that or that one women who brands the whole gender

Race is also an issue that deals with the same "everybody in that category is the same" creed

Your mom.

"Hilary Clinton, for example or wives that have been betrayed years down the road (AFTER the relationship stages that paint a picture of rather the man is worth it or not) are examples that not EVERYONE can spot a dog."

well...ahem. Hilary likely loves Bill, but sometimes I wonder: did she marry for love or power??

lol

"no offense guy but this is wuss type talk"

Hmm...I love women, and if it has anything to do with the benefit of women as a whole, I'll shed some light to it...so I'll be happy to take criticism.

Regardless of why who married who in the beginning, all that matters is that at SOME POINT in the marriage or relationship there was a mutual love. People always assume that getting played or betrayed is something that only happens in the beginning or end of a relationship, but that's not true. That's why it's not fair to say that the women who actually look for the respectful guys who they believe aren't and never will be dogs, don't get hurt as much as the women who actually search for the guys that can hurt them because that's all they're used to. Even the women who've outsmarted men, who can pick up on any and every red flag & "bounce" before they even give the key to their heart to someone else get hurt. Why? Because you can be married to someone for 20 years & find out that your husband cheated on you in the 7th year for 5 months & never did it again afterwards. In this situation, you can't particularly say that the woman didn't "research" her man well enough, because after all, for 7 years he was faithful (which is darn good now a days), but the truth is, this woman probably started off blaiming herself for not seeing how much of a dog he was in the beginning, but the truth is

CHEATING IS A THOUGHT BEFORE IT IS AN ACTION. And thoughts change every day
In the first 6 years, he might not have EVER THOUGHT in a million years he would be unfaithful to his wife, but some where along the line the thought came up & of course caused this woman to almost never trust her own sense or instinct

BigD56: Hmm...I love women, and if it has anything to do with the benefit of women as a whole, I'll shed some light to it...so I'll be happy to take criticism.

::sigh::

If I were 20 years younger.....

A guy like you gives women hope for the future! I bet you're cute, too.

And when women seem to lost faith in their OWN common sense or gut instinct, THAT'S when they naturally start to attract all the wrong men. One, because most of these guys can pick up on a vulernable woman and two, because you get what you pay for & you get out what you put in

he has a pic up! hurry and look before it disappears!

"A guy like you gives women hope for the future! I bet you're cute, too."

I was hoping I would have more men cover me on this topic, but all I'm getting is women feedback. Krysrenee7 is nothing short of a genius at analyzing this issue I tell ya! I think I owe her ownership of this thread!

Well its about damn time for that pic...now one last thing. How tall are you D?

aww, BigD your a cutie! 🙂

"You entire statement is nothing new, its a paradox we must all work through."

Truly words of wisdom. I see exactly your reasons for saying that the statements I've said are selfish, but I had to put that out there for the ones who ARE affected by this illness. Not the ones who are good. I want this type of thinking to stop, because it's not fair for anyone who is interested in a perfectly fine woman to be denied a shot all because of some idiot that ruined her persepctive on relationships. It's not that I just wanna look for someone else, it doesn't even get that far! If I like you, and you judge me based off of me being a man that did you dirty and you don't even know me is a shame, because I think of the type of relationship we could've had...I just can't let her go thinking in this way...I know, my love for women runs too deep lol I must be a walking hormone HA HAAA!

Lady_M "Well its about damn time for that pic...now one last thing. How tall are you D?"

6'3!!! My idol is LL Cool J since he looks soo young but is soo muscular...I know if I keep workin on it I'll be just like him!!!

"6'3!!! My idol is LL Cool J since he looks soo young but is soo muscular...I know if I keep workin on it I'll be just like him!!!"

*nods* You are eligible. 🙂

I agree with BigD Bigtime (See what I did there, yeah I know, niiice) Let's also not forget that there are some guys out there who are just as damaged as these women too. Which would probably explain some of the behavior. So really it's a concerted effort on both fronts to appreciate and understand one another, to love one another, to help build a bridge of trust and hold each others hands while crossing that bridge of trust to a happier, healthier relationship filled with rainbows and lollipops and all that other fairy shit. It's neither his or her fault it's THEIR fault. If it doesn't work it's because THEY didn't work, speaking not only about compatibility but effort put forth in the relationship also. Plus, some guys are just assholes and some women don't know when to leave a bad relationship in hopes of making it work.

M you are really picky lol. I dare you to date a midget like 5'1 or something hahahahaha!

P.S. I have a headache today so I'm going to make less sense than usual so please humor me more than you usually do. Thank You.

I AM NOT TWIN! I just know what I want (well atleast the basics).

I only ask for a few things and height is a very big thing to me. I did date a guy who was 5'7...it wasnt good.😢

Ok, I'm sorry. But still it's kind of funny. Just a wee bit.

Feel better twin 🙂

"I only ask for a few things and height is a very big thing to me. I did date a guy who was 5'7...it wasnt good."

I dumped my ex-leo cuz I felt like I was kinda bending down when I went to kiss him...

Oh, but they all do have one thing in common. That is that they're guided by the poontang.

I'm that tall...

when I where heels... 🙂

i stand 5'7" w/o heels. But, I don't like being tall.

Seems like I tower over most guys. 😢

lol well at least you could be a model 🙂

i stand 5'7" w/o heels. But, I don't like being tall.

Seems like I tower over most guys.

You don't tower over me. I could like pick you up and then slam you against the wall. Followed by other things, such as tickling and powerbombing you through a table.

Even though 5'7" is tall with comparison to most women, it is short for a model. Eva Pigford is *almost* 5'7" (like me), but she looks short in person.

I think I feel taller than I really am, because the guys around me tend to be short.

""I could like pick you up and then slam you against the wall. Followed by other things, such as tickling and powerbombing you through a table.""

:O

Now, why would you want to do that to lil' ole me??

:O

Now, why would you want to do that to lil' ole me??

By table I meant bed? I'm kidding I would never powerbomb you. Maybe slam you up against a wall and tickle you, unless you're into the whole powerbomb thing... Just a suggestion.

Naima looks short too, and she is supposedly 5'9".

You don't tower over me. I could like pick you up and then slam you against the wall. Followed by other things, such as tickling and powerbombing you through a table.

LMAO

note to self: don't fuck with DK 🙂

I do have a friend who is 6'1", and her SO is 6'4", thankfully. Their kids are going to be like 5'10" at birth. She's flawless. I really want her to model so that I can profit off her.

lol@DK

never liked short cute girls, weirds me out, they get naked and not a women but a girl

JMO...

😢

hey, I'm shapely in all the right places 🙂

DK

You're so strong and sexy. Have my babies?

😉

LOLLERSKATES @ OSG!

What happened to "Never, ever, ever will I ever have your babies!" Can we name our kids Rocket and Gizmo then? You have to let me powerbomb you though.

"What happened to "Never, ever, ever will I ever have your babies!""

Indeed. That's why I've arranged for you to have mine. Read carefully.

""Can we name our kids Rocket and Gizmo then?""

np. As long as they recieve my last name.

Fine by me. You still haven't agreed on the powerbomb situation yet.

You can powerbomb me under one condition: I get to dropkick you.

*sits indian style to watch the fight*

lol

Dropkick to the head or chest? I mean I want to be able to at least powerbomb you after you dropkick me.

what is going on here!

You arent not going to molest my twin notos! Unless he asks 😛