WitchmitchAries
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Are Aries really born at being leaders? lets talk leadership
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You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.
Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
I also found this. lol
'Executive Summary
Reprint: R0401H
When asked to define the ideal leader, many would emphasize traits such as intelligence, toughness, determination, and vision—the qualities traditionally associated with leadership. Such skills and smarts are necessary but insufficient qualities for the leader. Often left off the list are softer, more personal qualities—but they are also essential. Although a certain degree of analytical and technical skill is a minimum requirement for success, studies indicate that emotional intelligence may be the key attribute that distinguishes outstanding performers from those who are merely adequate.
Psychologist and author Daniel Goleman first brought the term “emotional intelligence” to a wide audience with his 1995 book of the same name, and Goleman first applied the concept to business with this 1998 classic HBR article. In his research at nearly 200 large, global companies, Goleman found that truly effective leaders are distinguished by a high degree of emotional intelligence. Without it, a person can have first-class training, an incisive mind, and an endless supply of good ideas, but he still won’t be a great leader.
The chief components of emotional intelligence—self-awareness, self-regulation, motivation, empathy, and social skill—can sound unbusinesslike, but Goleman, cochair of the Consortium for Research on Emotional Intelligence in Organizations, based at Rutgers University, found direct ties between emotional intelligence and measurable business results. The notion of emotional intelligence and its relevance to business has continued to spark debate over the past six years, but Goleman’s article remains the definitive reference on the subject, with a detailed discussion of each component of emotional intelligence, how to recognize it in potential leaders, how and why it connects to performance, and how it can be learned.'
'Executive Summary
Reprint: R0401H
When asked to define the ideal leader, many would emphasize traits such as intelligence, toughness, determination, and vision—the qualities traditionally associated with leadership. Such skills and smarts are necessary but insufficient qualities for the leader. Often left off the list are softer, more personal qualities—but they are also essential. Although a certain degree of analytical and technical skill is a minimum requirement for success, studies indicate that emotional intelligence may be the key attribute that distinguishes outstanding performers from those who are merely adequate.
Psychologist and author Daniel Goleman first brought the term “emotional intelligence” to a wide audience with his 1995 book of the same name, and Goleman first applied the concept to business with this 1998 classic HBR article. In his research at nearly 200 large, global companies, Goleman found that truly effective leaders are distinguished by a high degree of emotional intelligence. Without it, a person can have first-class training, an incisive mind, and an endless supply of good ideas, but he still won’t be a great leader.
The chief components of emotional intelligence—self-awareness, self-regulation, motivation, empathy, and social skill—can sound unbusinesslike, but Goleman, cochair of the Consortium for Research on Emotional Intelligence in Organizations, based at Rutgers University, found direct ties between emotional intelligence and measurable business results. The notion of emotional intelligence and its relevance to business has continued to spark debate over the past six years, but Goleman’s article remains the definitive reference on the subject, with a detailed discussion of each component of emotional intelligence, how to recognize it in potential leaders, how and why it connects to performance, and how it can be learned.'
Posted by Ephexisi am selfless, when i need to get a project done i so think of others. i believe thats a leaders job. also a true leader can see the potential in others and bring it out of them. but you have to be able to get them to get the stuff done. i feel more like people come to me with there shit to solve. lol
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
Posted by EphexisYou want shit to get done, get an Aries dominant. You wanna host tea parties while the world burns, grab a Crab or a Libra. You want your country turned into a circus, elect a Gemini.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowWhich is why you are not in a position of leadership, you have no idea what makes a leader.Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
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You wanna be eaten alive in one gulp, date Julia Roberts
Posted by Ephexisneither one of you are acting like a leader right now. just sayingPosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowWhich is why you are not in a position of leadership, you have no idea what makes a leader.Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
click to expand
I'm an aries and i suck at being a leader. i get easily intimated by the people around me and instantly feel as though they are capable of more than i am so i let them take the lead.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowlol shit only gets done because i end up doing it all.Posted by EphexisYou want shit to get done, get an Aries dominant. You wanna host tea parties while the world burns, grab a Crab or a Libra. You want your country turned into a circus, elect a Gemini.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowWhich is why you are not in a position of leadership, you have no idea what makes a leader.Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
You wanna be eaten alive in one gulp, date Julia Robertsclick to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesWhile the world burns, there's more pressing matters at hand. When things quieten down, I'll hold your hand for as long as you need.Posted by Ephexisneither one of you are acting like a leader right now. just sayingPosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowWhich is why you are not in a position of leadership, you have no idea what makes a leader.Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
click to expand
Posted by GlaringTruthVirgo moon here, luv. I have no desire to be front & center longterm. Just want shit to get done and then you can govern yourselves off the edge of a cliff for all I carePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowThere are so many ways to be a leader. You appear to favor an autocratic leader, no?Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
There's the autocratic leader, democratic leader, laissez-faire, cross-cultural, transactional, and transformational... to name a few. Let's not forget spiritual leaders.
In astrology it seems biased towards fire placements. Leading people to assume you need this in your chart to effectively lead. You don't.click to expand
I'll be in my steam shack eating frozen mangoes.
Posted by confusedaries7513I have found that some of the best leaders are the best followers. its not about them is about others. so thats like following
I'm an aries and i suck at being a leader. i get easily intimated by the people around me and instantly feel as though they are capable of more than i am so i let them take the lead.
I would rather be a role-model. I like to lead by setting a good example. I've had people come up to me and tell me I've inspired them to try a plant-based diet/to overcome their fear of public-speaking/to dance and not feel self-conscious/to dress the way they like/to try harder at their job...whatever it is, I didn't tell them to do it. I simply lead them by being who I am. Role models are leaders who don't know they are being watched and being looked up to. Leaders are appointed and need to fulfill their job. I'd rather be a role model.
I want to win if it's a competition, but Aries doesn't get enough credit for being very receptive. If I can sense that something means so much to somebody - believe it or not, I WILL let them have what it is they want. I am not stingy with my praise, either, and I've found that unique for people in general. Aries isn't afraid to give props, and while other women are looking away or pretending something isn't a big deal, I'm the one telling her she's lost weight/looks beautiful/has style /gave a great speech/did a good job.
People who are reductive and dismiss Aries as just wanting to win are superficial and don't know us at all.
I want to win if it's a competition, but Aries doesn't get enough credit for being very receptive. If I can sense that something means so much to somebody - believe it or not, I WILL let them have what it is they want. I am not stingy with my praise, either, and I've found that unique for people in general. Aries isn't afraid to give props, and while other women are looking away or pretending something isn't a big deal, I'm the one telling her she's lost weight/looks beautiful/has style /gave a great speech/did a good job.
People who are reductive and dismiss Aries as just wanting to win are superficial and don't know us at all.
Posted by WitchmitchAriesthat's very true... i know leaders who only take into consideration their own benefits mostly and not others.Posted by confusedaries7513I have found that some of the best leaders are the best followers. its not about them is about others. so thats like following
I'm an aries and i suck at being a leader. i get easily intimated by the people around me and instantly feel as though they are capable of more than i am so i let them take the lead.click to expand
Posted by Ephexisi am great at solving problems but if i need someone elses skills to get a project done i cant seem to get them to do it because they tell me why they cant do it and i feel for them. lol i feel like i could make them in some way but i dont want to do that. i want people to want to help with the project plus i understand why they dont want to do the project. but then i left with a project that is put on the shelve till i find someone with the skills. grrrrPosted by WitchmitchAriesIt depends on a lot, i also have a same outlook to you, and yeah i'm a problem solver.Posted by Ephexisi am selfless, when i need to get a project done i so think of others. i believe thats a leaders job. also a true leader can see the potential in others and bring it out of them. but you have to be able to get them to get the stuff done. i feel more like people come to me with there shit to solve. lol
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
We have wildly different ways of doing so however.
I also have this in aspects.
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Posted by aquanibI can see myself going first. but others still have to follow behind. lol i go through the door and turn around and there is no one there whos got my back.
You know, in the military when they teach close quarter combat training (at least over here), it's a soft rule that when you need to breach a door and go into a room full of hostiles, the first soldier going in should be of smaller constitution and aggressive, feisty, energetic. That is the spot for aries.
Posted by GlaringTruthMy diplomatic urges come & go. I don't have much patience for people who refuse to learn after screwing up and completely ignore proper direction. I'll show you once, I might show you twice. Third time you're going straight out the airlock.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowLol. So I'm assuming you're the diplomatic leader. I was ready to get technical on this topic as I am in a leadership position and the type of leadership needed really does vary for the job environment.Posted by GlaringTruthVirgo moon here, luv. I have no desire to be front & center longterm. Just want shit to get done and then you can govern yourselves off the edge of a cliff for all I carePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowThere are so many ways to be a leader. You appear to favor an autocratic leader, no?Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
There's the autocratic leader, democratic leader, laissez-faire, cross-cultural, transactional, and transformational... to name a few. Let's not forget spiritual leaders.
In astrology it seems biased towards fire placements. Leading people to assume you need this in your chart to effectively lead. You don't.
I'll be in my steam shack eating frozen mangoes.click to expand
Posted by Redbullwhat most of them were bullies not leaders. thats different i would say. just because a person can bully people into doing what they want doesnt make them a leader. they remind me of the bully in school who made people do what they wanted.
I hadnt seen anything toward that from what i have seen but recently I know an Aries dude who I have picked up some important career aspects from. In some ways it has altered my career path and outlook. I dont know if i would have altered it anyway but it has been interesting.
Now since I see talking signs and leadership I must point out the list of Taurus dictators and world leaders through history. SaddamHussein to Hitler to AYatollahKhomeni to Catherine the Great to General/President Grant to Eva Peron to Malcolm X to...there are many more its actually the deepest list by a wide margin. Many are infamous as opposed to famous but the fact remaind Taurus is the Dictator and leader sign as far as leader of people on a wide scale. Feeling extra bullish because its Taurus season. Leo is probably second. Dont mean this in a disrespectful way just Aries leadership is a different thing than say Taurus.
Posted by Redbullyour not crashing. i would love to hear what everyone has to say about this subject. i have a big project coming up in may and i need understand more about being a leader.
Didnt mean to crash your thread and meant nothing negative hope it wasnt taken that way. But I look around and realize as time goes on how things are going and how to position myself. Aslo its hard to see competition as far as being focused and determined and not being distracted. As a Taurus and it being Taurus season i couldnt resist a leader topic. Or more accurately "The world is mine in due time" haha.
But yeah there are some inspiring Aries I have noticed. I know and know of multiple ones. And some on the other spectrum but thats not the point.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowlol forging aheadPosted by GlaringTruthVirgo moon here, luv. I have no desire to be front & center longterm. Just want shit to get done and then you can govern yourselves off the edge of a cliff for all I carePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowThere are so many ways to be a leader. You appear to favor an autocratic leader, no?Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
There's the autocratic leader, democratic leader, laissez-faire, cross-cultural, transactional, and transformational... to name a few. Let's not forget spiritual leaders.
In astrology it seems biased towards fire placements. Leading people to assume you need this in your chart to effectively lead. You don't.
I'll be in my steam shack eating frozen mangoes.click to expand
Posted by LillyPetali so agree. i do that too. but if theres a project that needs to get done. lol i get the feeling a person does want to do their part and i talk to them and find out that yes their skills would be great for the project, but their heart is not into it. I listen to them and find out their true dreams and cant bring myself to stopping them or getting in the way of theirs dreams. instead i end up giving them ideas on how to make their dreams come true but i still end up with a project that doesnt get done because i might lact the skills or its to overwhelming. lol
I would rather be a role-model. I like to lead by setting a good example. I've had people come up to me and tell me I've inspired them to try a plant-based diet/to overcome their fear of public-speaking/to dance and not feel self-conscious/to dress the way they like/to try harder at their job...whatever it is, I didn't tell them to do it. I simply lead them by being who I am. Role models are leaders who don't know they are being watched and being looked up to. Leaders are appointed and need to fulfill their job. I'd rather be a role model.
I want to win if it's a competition, but Aries doesn't get enough credit for being very receptive. If I can sense that something means so much to somebody - believe it or not, I WILL let them have what it is they want. I am not stingy with my praise, either, and I've found that unique for people in general. Aries isn't afraid to give props, and while other women are looking away or pretending something isn't a big deal, I'm the one telling her she's lost weight/looks beautiful/has style /gave a great speech/did a good job.
People who are reductive and dismiss Aries as just wanting to win are superficial and don't know us at all.
Posted by EphexisHow would one find like minded people? that really has been the hardest thing for me when i need to get projects done.Posted by WitchmitchAriesA leader knows how to recruit like minded people and scope out people intuitively.Posted by confusedaries7513I have found that some of the best leaders are the best followers. its not about them is about others. so thats like following
I'm an aries and i suck at being a leader. i get easily intimated by the people around me and instantly feel as though they are capable of more than i am so i let them take the lead.
Ideally there should be a union of leadership qualities.
Aries
Cancer
Libra
Capricorn
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Posted by Libracookielol, i could do those things, i know i can. saddly i find myself see their side of things, so i cut the line and let them go. my fish got away because i looked into its eyes and said 'ah i cant eat you' lol just sayingPosted by WitchmitchAriesIf you want to get people to do what you want it's either intimate them so they act out of fear (dictator) or empower them.
i have had a lot of people who have told me that i am strong and a leader. these people are not into horoscope stuff. but i am no leader and there are lots of time i dont feel strong. i read something about what a leader is. here it is
'People seem to know intuitively that leaders need to manage relationships effectively; no leader is an island. After all, the leader's task is to get work done through other people, and social skill makes that possible. ... Social skill allows leaders to put their emotional intelligence to work.'
i cant get people to do shit. i end up having to do it. but i can see the gifts and skills in people. i see where they would work great in a team, but to get them to do it is a big problem for me.
So what do you think a leader real is?
Do any of you of you other Aries feel like a leader? if yes how do you get people to do what they need to?
i was just wondering because i would like to be a great leader. I am not sure what i am doing wrong.
At work I'm getting a lot of my colleagues to help with a project because how can they resist my libra charm when I ask. 😆
I'm just kidding. 😛
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Posted by Libracookiei read once that if you have a business that the best to signs to have are Aries and Vigos. if you can get them to respect their diffrents that they make a great team. Aries great at starting projects and virgos and finishing project. lol its just something i read once
It depends on the situation. Different situation require different leaders.
Aries from my experience work hard but are poor listeners. They are about speed and get things done quickly but miss the details...which sometimes end up slowing things instead.
A lot of them are enthusiastic which motivates others though.
Posted by Redbullmaybe i need a Taurus for my up and coming projects. lol i do know i can inspire people that comes easy for me. but if i need them for a project, well i end up screwing myself. 🙂Posted by WitchmitchAriesHaha you seem cool enough. I'll give a few examples. I have a younger cousin right. His birthday is I think April 19th he is an Aries I think. Anyway, he moved away from home city to do his school thing and never looked back. He's younger than me and lived in numerous states and cities. Anyway recently I bought my first house in another city. After living pretty much my whole life in one city. So my point about inspriation or Hmmm thats interesting now that I have been exposed to that like in some ways that inspired me to be more see what is out there. Ive gotten that type of thing from numerous Aries in different ways through the years thinking about it. More like a leadership as far as a "spark" inspiration type of thing. See as a Taurus we can need that "spark" to get us going. Aries provides a spark, Taurus goes with it relentlessly (sometimes even overdoing it).Posted by Redbullyour not crashing. i would love to hear what everyone has to say about this subject. i have a big project coming up in may and i need understand more about being a leader.
Didnt mean to crash your thread and meant nothing negative hope it wasnt taken that way. But I look around and realize as time goes on how things are going and how to position myself. Aslo its hard to see competition as far as being focused and determined and not being distracted. As a Taurus and it being Taurus season i couldnt resist a leader topic. Or more accurately "The world is mine in due time" haha.
But yeah there are some inspiring Aries I have noticed. I know and know of multiple ones. And some on the other spectrum but thats not the point.
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Posted by LibracookiePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowSorry I ate the mangoes already. 😄Posted by GlaringTruthVirgo moon here, luv. I have no desire to be front & center longterm. Just want shit to get done and then you can govern yourselves off the edge of a cliff for all I carePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowThere are so many ways to be a leader. You appear to favor an autocratic leader, no?Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
There's the autocratic leader, democratic leader, laissez-faire, cross-cultural, transactional, and transformational... to name a few. Let's not forget spiritual leaders.
In astrology it seems biased towards fire placements. Leading people to assume you need this in your chart to effectively lead. You don't.
I'll be in my steam shack eating frozen mangoes.
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You would. i wanted it. lol
Posted by EphexisPosted by WitchmitchAriesSomething water signs do is test the waters, so maybe put something forwards, see who reacts in the right way.Posted by EphexisHow would one find like minded people? that really has been the hardest thing for me when i need to get projects done.Posted by WitchmitchAriesA leader knows how to recruit like minded people and scope out people intuitively.Posted by confusedaries7513I have found that some of the best leaders are the best followers. its not about them is about others. so thats like following
I'm an aries and i suck at being a leader. i get easily intimated by the people around me and instantly feel as though they are capable of more than i am so i let them take the lead.
Ideally there should be a union of leadership qualities.
Aries
Cancer
Libra
Capricorn
click to expand
i dont seem to get bites though. lol but i will keep trying
Posted by LibracookiePosted by WitchmitchAriesAsk an aries they will never tell you they can't do it. 😛Posted by Ephexisi am great at solving problems but if i need someone elses skills to get a project done i cant seem to get them to do it because they tell me why they cant do it and i feel for them. lol i feel like i could make them in some way but i dont want to do that. i want people to want to help with the project plus i understand why they dont want to do the project. but then i left with a project that is put on the shelve till i find someone with the skills. grrrrPosted by WitchmitchAriesIt depends on a lot, i also have a same outlook to you, and yeah i'm a problem solver.Posted by Ephexisi am selfless, when i need to get a project done i so think of others. i believe thats a leaders job. also a true leader can see the potential in others and bring it out of them. but you have to be able to get them to get the stuff done. i feel more like people come to me with there shit to solve. lol
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
We have wildly different ways of doing so however.
I also have this in aspects.
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i dont know any aries where i live. the only ones i know are from my games and here on dxp. 😢
Posted by WarAngel1
For my money, I'll follow and Aries into a gunfight. Once they get their head blow off, I'll take charge.
Simple.
😢 i would never get my head blow off. i am to good. so i guess your stuck with me. hehehe
Being cardinal, Aries is great at initiating.
Start is great, but finishing is better.
Start is great, but finishing is better.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowah thats soo sweet that you would show them twice. i knew there was a heart in there somewhere. just saying. lolPosted by GlaringTruthMy diplomatic urges come & go. I don't have much patience for people who refuse to learn after screwing up and completely ignore proper direction. I'll show you once, I might show you twice. Third time you're going straight out the airlock.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowLol. So I'm assuming you're the diplomatic leader. I was ready to get technical on this topic as I am in a leadership position and the type of leadership needed really does vary for the job environment.Posted by GlaringTruthVirgo moon here, luv. I have no desire to be front & center longterm. Just want shit to get done and then you can govern yourselves off the edge of a cliff for all I carePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowThere are so many ways to be a leader. You appear to favor an autocratic leader, no?Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
There's the autocratic leader, democratic leader, laissez-faire, cross-cultural, transactional, and transformational... to name a few. Let's not forget spiritual leaders.
In astrology it seems biased towards fire placements. Leading people to assume you need this in your chart to effectively lead. You don't.
I'll be in my steam shack eating frozen mangoes.click to expand
Posted by AL4813well there is a reason for that. some people cant keep up and get mad or they feel overwhelme by me. but i have the very strong need to go and at times i really cant wait for others to pull themselves together or decide if they are going. I can say i do finish things. yes its very hard for me to finish things, and that one spot i could use the help the most. sadly it is very hard for me to find that help. lol oh well got to keep moving
Being cardinal, Aries is great at initiating.
Start is great, but finishing is better.
Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowah thats soo sweet that you would show them twice. i knew there was a heart in there somewhere. just saying. lolPosted by GlaringTruthMy diplomatic urges come & go. I don't have much patience for people who refuse to learn after screwing up and completely ignore proper direction. I'll show you once, I might show you twice. Third time you're going straight out the airlock.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowLol. So I'm assuming you're the diplomatic leader. I was ready to get technical on this topic as I am in a leadership position and the type of leadership needed really does vary for the job environment.Posted by GlaringTruthVirgo moon here, luv. I have no desire to be front & center longterm. Just want shit to get done and then you can govern yourselves off the edge of a cliff for all I carePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowThere are so many ways to be a leader. You appear to favor an autocratic leader, no?Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
There's the autocratic leader, democratic leader, laissez-faire, cross-cultural, transactional, and transformational... to name a few. Let's not forget spiritual leaders.
In astrology it seems biased towards fire placements. Leading people to assume you need this in your chart to effectively lead. You don't.
I'll be in my steam shack eating frozen mangoes.click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesThat article is very accurate and there is a difference between "a boss" and a leader. A boss walks around in arrogance, feels superior, and tells people what to do. They are generally respected but not out of likability, but out of fear. Also, people often confuse leadership with "directing." They're two completely different things. The latter, is done out of need to control, the former is about empowering people to achieve their highest potential...through guidance. This requires trust in others something Aries and Cardinals have a hard time doing. So therefore they end up "controlling the situation" by either doing it themselves and not give others a chance or through force. True leadership requires knowing ones own limitations and humility. They inspire others through examples and they teach through guidance. I can give more if you'd like 🙂
i have had a lot of people who have told me that i am strong and a leader. these people are not into horoscope stuff. but i am no leader and there are lots of time i dont feel strong. i read something about what a leader is. here it is
'People seem to know intuitively that leaders need to manage relationships effectively; no leader is an island. After all, the leader's task is to get work done through other people, and social skill makes that possible. ... Social skill allows leaders to put their emotional intelligence to work.'
i cant get people to do shit. i end up having to do it. but i can see the gifts and skills in people. i see where they would work great in a team, but to get them to do it is a big problem for me.
So what do you think a leader real is?
Do any of you of you other Aries feel like a leader? if yes how do you get people to do what they need to?
i was just wondering because i would like to be a great leader. I am not sure what i am doing wrong.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowah the grumpy old man with a big heart. always so cute.Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowah thats soo sweet that you would show them twice. i knew there was a heart in there somewhere. just saying. lolPosted by GlaringTruthMy diplomatic urges come & go. I don't have much patience for people who refuse to learn after screwing up and completely ignore proper direction. I'll show you once, I might show you twice. Third time you're going straight out the airlock.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowLol. So I'm assuming you're the diplomatic leader. I was ready to get technical on this topic as I am in a leadership position and the type of leadership needed really does vary for the job environment.Posted by GlaringTruthVirgo moon here, luv. I have no desire to be front & center longterm. Just want shit to get done and then you can govern yourselves off the edge of a cliff for all I carePosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowThere are so many ways to be a leader. You appear to favor an autocratic leader, no?Posted by EphexisDon't make me laugh, my face will break. Georgie DoubleYa Bushie is a Cancer.......and a fucking wimp. One of the biggest embarrassments in the history of humanity.
No.
A true leader is selflessly involved and is there doing their natural thing for the betterment of all.
An Aries feels they need to win, which is good, it is a big drive, but a lot of the time is self centered.
IMO not because i am one, Cancer make the ideal Leader.
See video of Princess Diana.
There's the autocratic leader, democratic leader, laissez-faire, cross-cultural, transactional, and transformational... to name a few. Let's not forget spiritual leaders.
In astrology it seems biased towards fire placements. Leading people to assume you need this in your chart to effectively lead. You don't.
I'll be in my steam shack eating frozen mangoes.click to expand
Posted by beautifulsoul74the boss part is just a bully, and that is not me. lol the directing i can do because i can see where a person would be best used in a project. lol i have done the guidance and found they lack the heart for the project and then i feel for them. i can manipulate them into doing it, but i feel for them and end up screwing myself on the project. i do know my limitaions and humiliation, but i also know its good to push ones self beyond ones boundaries. you learn a lot from it to. i would love to hear more. please keep goingPosted by WitchmitchAriesThat article is very accurate and there is a difference between "a boss" and a leader. A boss walks around in arrogance, feels superior, and tells people what to do. They are generally respected but not out of likability, but out of fear. Also, people often confuse leadership with "directing." They're two completely different things. The latter, is done out of need to control, the former is about empowering people to achieve their highest potential...through guidance. This requires trust in others something Aries and Cardinals have a hard time doing. So therefore they end up "controlling the situation" by either doing it themselves and not give others a chance or through force. True leadership requires knowing ones own limitations and humility. They inspire others through examples and they teach through guidance. I can give more if you'd like 🙂
i have had a lot of people who have told me that i am strong and a leader. these people are not into horoscope stuff. but i am no leader and there are lots of time i dont feel strong. i read something about what a leader is. here it is
'People seem to know intuitively that leaders need to manage relationships effectively; no leader is an island. After all, the leader's task is to get work done through other people, and social skill makes that possible. ... Social skill allows leaders to put their emotional intelligence to work.'
i cant get people to do shit. i end up having to do it. but i can see the gifts and skills in people. i see where they would work great in a team, but to get them to do it is a big problem for me.
So what do you think a leader real is?
Do any of you of you other Aries feel like a leader? if yes how do you get people to do what they need to?
i was just wondering because i would like to be a great leader. I am not sure what i am doing wrong.
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so what are the different types of leaders? because i some of what was said in here as leaders i dont think are leadership stuff.
like a bully can get people to follow them but that is not a leader from my point of veiw.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.
So if you have a big project you wanted to get done whats signs would be the best team to put together? or maybe it doesnt matter.
Posted by WitchmitchAriesSounds like you need a Fishy sun/Virgo mooner in your corner: a perfectionist artista extraordinaire.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.click to expand
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowooo, lol where do i find one of those?Posted by WitchmitchAriesSounds like you need a Fishy sun/Virgo mooner in your corner: a perfectionist artista extraordinaire.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesOk I see. I'll start with this. I'm a Supervisor at my job and my number one principle is that it's my job to support my subordinates and to put them in a position to succeed. As you are probably aware, that requires "knowing" people...their strengths/weaknesses, nuances, tendencies, talents and limitations. One of the things that you have to realize is that not everyone wants to move beyond their boundaries. While we in leadership may feel that it's best for them to try, it's not advisable to try to force them to...you'll set them up for failure. It's about taking a more balanced and conservative approach. They are people first and foremost. The ones that want to excel will have no problem showing that. For the others, I coach them up. I'll do something like talk to them and let them give me their ideas for changes or trying something new. This is called "on boarding" and something that should be done throughout the employee's tenure...make them feel as a part of the team. If they decide they don't want to participate, that's ok and I don't look down on them or treat them any different. But here's the thing, I've planted a seed in their mind that may harvest later because I've shown them that they are important. Eventually, they step up to the plate.Posted by beautifulsoul74the boss part is just a bully, and that is not me. lol the directing i can do because i can see where a person would be best used in a project. lol i have done the guidance and found they lack the heart for the project and then i feel for them. i can manipulate them into doing it, but i feel for them and end up screwing myself on the project. i do know my limitaions and humiliation, but i also know its good to push ones self beyond ones boundaries. you learn a lot from it to. i would love to hear more. please keep goingPosted by WitchmitchAriesThat article is very accurate and there is a difference between "a boss" and a leader. A boss walks around in arrogance, feels superior, and tells people what to do. They are generally respected but not out of likability, but out of fear. Also, people often confuse leadership with "directing." They're two completely different things. The latter, is done out of need to control, the former is about empowering people to achieve their highest potential...through guidance. This requires trust in others something Aries and Cardinals have a hard time doing. So therefore they end up "controlling the situation" by either doing it themselves and not give others a chance or through force. True leadership requires knowing ones own limitations and humility. They inspire others through examples and they teach through guidance. I can give more if you'd like 🙂
i have had a lot of people who have told me that i am strong and a leader. these people are not into horoscope stuff. but i am no leader and there are lots of time i dont feel strong. i read something about what a leader is. here it is
'People seem to know intuitively that leaders need to manage relationships effectively; no leader is an island. After all, the leader's task is to get work done through other people, and social skill makes that possible. ... Social skill allows leaders to put their emotional intelligence to work.'
i cant get people to do shit. i end up having to do it. but i can see the gifts and skills in people. i see where they would work great in a team, but to get them to do it is a big problem for me.
So what do you think a leader real is?
Do any of you of you other Aries feel like a leader? if yes how do you get people to do what they need to?
i was just wondering because i would like to be a great leader. I am not sure what i am doing wrong.
click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesYou'll have to search near & far, high & low. I'd offer my services, but my Virgo master has become a tad possessive/territorial (blame his Leo cusp lol) so I'm unavailable for the time being.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowooo, lol where do i find one of those?Posted by WitchmitchAriesSounds like you need a Fishy sun/Virgo mooner in your corner: a perfectionist artista extraordinaire.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.click to expand
You could also try a Fishy and a Virgo, separate people. You could also break down each project into simple steps or progress milestones that you'll need to reach. That way you won't have to run around like a headless chicken trying to figure out what to do next.
I'd advise against setting definite deadlines and instead use broader time periods. Say "I want to have this completed between May and June" instead of stressing yourself out unnecessarily. That's how you can placate a certain placement of yours that has lazy tendencies lol (like my Sag ascendant).
Posted by beautifulsoul74Posted by WitchmitchAriesOk I see. I'll start with this. I'm a Supervisor at my job and my number one principle is that it's my job to support my subordinates and to put them in a position to succeed. As you are probably aware, that requires "knowing" people...their strengths/weaknesses, nuances, tendencies, talents and limitations. One of the things that you have to realize is that not everyone wants to move beyond their boundaries. While we in leadership may feel that it's best for them to try, it's not advisable to try to force them to...you'll set them up for failure. It's about taking a more balanced and conservative approach. They are people first and foremost. The ones that want to excel will have no problem showing that. For the others, I coach them up. I'll do something like talk to them and let them give me their ideas for changes or trying something new. This is called "on boarding" and something that should be done throughout the employee's tenure...make them feel as a part of the team. If they decide they don't want to participate, that's ok and I don't look down on them or treat them any different. But here's the thing, I've planted a seed in their mind that may harvest later because I've shown them that they are important. Eventually, they step up to the plate.Posted by beautifulsoul74the boss part is just a bully, and that is not me. lol the directing i can do because i can see where a person would be best used in a project. lol i have done the guidance and found they lack the heart for the project and then i feel for them. i can manipulate them into doing it, but i feel for them and end up screwing myself on the project. i do know my limitaions and humiliation, but i also know its good to push ones self beyond ones boundaries. you learn a lot from it to. i would love to hear more. please keep goingPosted by WitchmitchAriesThat article is very accurate and there is a difference between "a boss" and a leader. A boss walks around in arrogance, feels superior, and tells people what to do. They are generally respected but not out of likability, but out of fear. Also, people often confuse leadership with "directing." They're two completely different things. The latter, is done out of need to control, the former is about empowering people to achieve their highest potential...through guidance. This requires trust in others something Aries and Cardinals have a hard time doing. So therefore they end up "controlling the situation" by either doing it themselves and not give others a chance or through force. True leadership requires knowing ones own limitations and humility. They inspire others through examples and they teach through guidance. I can give more if you'd like 🙂
i have had a lot of people who have told me that i am strong and a leader. these people are not into horoscope stuff. but i am no leader and there are lots of time i dont feel strong. i read something about what a leader is. here it is
'People seem to know intuitively that leaders need to manage relationships effectively; no leader is an island. After all, the leader's task is to get work done through other people, and social skill makes that possible. ... Social skill allows leaders to put their emotional intelligence to work.'
i cant get people to do shit. i end up having to do it. but i can see the gifts and skills in people. i see where they would work great in a team, but to get them to do it is a big problem for me.
So what do you think a leader real is?
Do any of you of you other Aries feel like a leader? if yes how do you get people to do what they need to?
i was just wondering because i would like to be a great leader. I am not sure what i am doing wrong.
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i did a lot of what you say when i was running a flooring busness for a family member. i never really looked at it as a leadership only that is how i work. lol i still get people asking me to come back, but I have these great idea for a great project and trying to put together a great team. that seems to be were i fall short. but i do have a problem with finding like minded people who are willing to go on that adventure or take on something big. i think thats the best way to word it. lol
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowIt would be nice to have someone to bounce ideas off of or gets excited like i do about an idea, and not give me that 'crazy eye look' when they cant see what i see. 😆. broader time periods is the only way i have been moving forward. lolPosted by WitchmitchAriesYou'll have to search near & far, high & low. I'd offer my services, but my Virgo master has become a tad possessive/territorial (blame his Leo cusp lol) so I'm unavailable for the time being.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowooo, lol where do i find one of those?Posted by WitchmitchAriesSounds like you need a Fishy sun/Virgo mooner in your corner: a perfectionist artista extraordinaire.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.
You could also try a Fishy and a Virgo, separate people. You could also break down each project into simple steps or progress milestones that you'll need to reach. That way you won't have to run around like a headless chicken trying to figure out what to do next.
I'd advise against setting definite deadlines and instead use broader time periods. Say "I want to have this completed between May and June" instead of stressing yourself out unnecessarily. That's how you can placate a certain placement of yours that has lazy tendencies lol (like my Sag ascendant).click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesOH GODAMN don't talk to me about crazy eyes today! *shudders*Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowIt would be nice to have someone to bounce ideas off of or gets excited like i do about an idea, and not give me that 'crazy eye look' when they cant see what i see. 😆. broader time periods is the only way i have been moving forward. lolPosted by WitchmitchAriesYou'll have to search near & far, high & low. I'd offer my services, but my Virgo master has become a tad possessive/territorial (blame his Leo cusp lol) so I'm unavailable for the time being.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowooo, lol where do i find one of those?Posted by WitchmitchAriesSounds like you need a Fishy sun/Virgo mooner in your corner: a perfectionist artista extraordinaire.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.
You could also try a Fishy and a Virgo, separate people. You could also break down each project into simple steps or progress milestones that you'll need to reach. That way you won't have to run around like a headless chicken trying to figure out what to do next.
I'd advise against setting definite deadlines and instead use broader time periods. Say "I want to have this completed between May and June" instead of stressing yourself out unnecessarily. That's how you can placate a certain placement of yours that has lazy tendencies lol (like my Sag ascendant).click to expand
Having said that, you should look for a friend with similar interests to yours. Then you might get that co-Eureka moment.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowI so do. feels like i been looking for a life time. lol lets put it this way. i am really out there. 😉 not very out here. lol Crazy eye is like a bucket of ice water poured on you in the die of winter. hehePosted by WitchmitchAriesOH GODAMN don't talk to me about crazy eyes today! *shudders*Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowIt would be nice to have someone to bounce ideas off of or gets excited like i do about an idea, and not give me that 'crazy eye look' when they cant see what i see. 😆. broader time periods is the only way i have been moving forward. lolPosted by WitchmitchAriesYou'll have to search near & far, high & low. I'd offer my services, but my Virgo master has become a tad possessive/territorial (blame his Leo cusp lol) so I'm unavailable for the time being.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowooo, lol where do i find one of those?Posted by WitchmitchAriesSounds like you need a Fishy sun/Virgo mooner in your corner: a perfectionist artista extraordinaire.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.
You could also try a Fishy and a Virgo, separate people. You could also break down each project into simple steps or progress milestones that you'll need to reach. That way you won't have to run around like a headless chicken trying to figure out what to do next.
I'd advise against setting definite deadlines and instead use broader time periods. Say "I want to have this completed between May and June" instead of stressing yourself out unnecessarily. That's how you can placate a certain placement of yours that has lazy tendencies lol (like my Sag ascendant).
Having said that, you should look for a friend with similar interests to yours. Then you might get that co-Eureka moment.click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesI wasn't talking about boyfriends, but friends with similar interests. Search for forums specifically for your own interest/s and join them. And take it from there.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowI so do. feels like i been looking for a life time. lol lets put it this way. i am really out there. 😉 not very out here. lol Crazy eye is like a bucket of ice water poured on you in the die of winter. hehePosted by WitchmitchAriesOH GODAMN don't talk to me about crazy eyes today! *shudders*Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowIt would be nice to have someone to bounce ideas off of or gets excited like i do about an idea, and not give me that 'crazy eye look' when they cant see what i see. 😆. broader time periods is the only way i have been moving forward. lolPosted by WitchmitchAriesYou'll have to search near & far, high & low. I'd offer my services, but my Virgo master has become a tad possessive/territorial (blame his Leo cusp lol) so I'm unavailable for the time being.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowooo, lol where do i find one of those?Posted by WitchmitchAriesSounds like you need a Fishy sun/Virgo mooner in your corner: a perfectionist artista extraordinaire.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow😆 it soo feels like that sometimes. i dont mean to overcomplicate it. i just have these big project ideas that i want to start in May. i so need to know why i feel like i am not a leader. feel for me. lol
You're overcomplicating it.
They most likely mean you can take charge and steer the helm when it comes to crunch time but everyone else is too busy playing with themselves.
You could also try a Fishy and a Virgo, separate people. You could also break down each project into simple steps or progress milestones that you'll need to reach. That way you won't have to run around like a headless chicken trying to figure out what to do next.
I'd advise against setting definite deadlines and instead use broader time periods. Say "I want to have this completed between May and June" instead of stressing yourself out unnecessarily. That's how you can placate a certain placement of yours that has lazy tendencies lol (like my Sag ascendant).
Having said that, you should look for a friend with similar interests to yours. Then you might get that co-Eureka moment.click to expand
"Crazy eye is like a bucket of ice water poured on you in the die of winter"
Yeah not quite around here. I'll tell you in a minute.......in private.
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