
Parkourler
@Parkourler
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Posted by ParkourlerFirst off, I can't stand rude people. I'm kinda like #2. It's not being rude, it's being honest & blunt about a patients disease that shouldn't be handled by a person that can't handle all of that. #1 is just plain mean. I can be a little demanding like in #3 but in a sweet way & a nice voice, nothing harsh.
Hi,
I recently discussed the difference between bluntness and rudeness with my aries gf and her aries friends. There are some things I find just offensive and they dont. Telling the truth without sugarcoating is one thing, but there has to be drawn a line don`t you think. I give you a few examples and then you tell me what you think.
1. There is a guy who is less succesfull discussing with one of her girls. She tells him youre a loser so piss of. She thought it was okay to say that. I dont think so.
2. Her boss a doctor is pretty blunt. She once said to a collegue " I dont think you are competent enough for this patient because his symptoms cannot be a clear indicator for just one disease. There are overlapping diagnoses with similar symptoms. I give to some one with more experience and who can spot more sublte indications.
Dont have a problem with that, the use of the phrase competent enough is a bit harsh though.
3. One likes to give orders. "Put the fork on there and there. Tell me what you found out".
4. They are quick thinkers and immediately tell everybody what to do. First of all I am a taurus and second I dont like
to be told what to do.
What do you think about the 4 Situations`?



Posted by ParkourlerI don't even understand the context of #1.
Hi,
I recently discussed the difference between bluntness and rudeness with my aries gf and her aries friends. There are some things I find just offensive and they dont. Telling the truth without sugarcoating is one thing, but there has to be drawn a line don`t you think. I give you a few examples and then you tell me what you think.
1. There is a guy who is less succesfull discussing with one of her girls. She tells him youre a loser so piss of. She thought it was okay to say that. I dont think so.
2. Her boss a doctor is pretty blunt. She once said to a collegue " I dont think you are competent enough for this patient because his symptoms cannot be a clear indicator for just one disease. There are overlapping diagnoses with similar symptoms. I give to some one with more experience and who can spot more sublte indications.
Dont have a problem with that, the use of the phrase competent enough is a bit harsh though.
3. One likes to give orders. "Put the fork on there and there. Tell me what you found out".
4. They are quick thinkers and immediately tell everybody what to do. First of all I am a taurus and second I dont like
to be told what to do.
What do you think about the 4 Situations`?



Posted by VenusAquariusWell it depends on the context. If you are a boss or a parent you have the right to give instructions. I am talking about
#3 and #4 is me. It's not "liking to give orders." It's clear instructions. People complain about directness when giving instructions and complain that instructions were not clear.





Posted by FragranceThis. I think it is possible to say harsh truths in a more considerate way. And that has nothing to do with asskissing.
Librasaurusrex +1!
Regarding the topic, I'd like to say that I hate it when people attempt to justify their obnoxious and inconsiderate disposition, immaturity, hostility and especially their psychological instability with the claim that they're blunt and "sick of bullshit" or whatever other void of content reason they give.
People can be so mean, using language I don't even encounter on the Internet, insulting in such a harsh manner... and when confronted, replying something of the sort: " I'm just blunt, bitch, something you can't be". What the hell... self-assertion isn't equivalent to acting surly and unmannerly. Bluntness can instead be used (again without mortifying others) to get the discussion going. Rude behaviour obstructs any discussion or debate. In terms of giving an honest opinion, being rude is simultaneously being derogatory.

Posted by AriesLoveI suppose you're right. No use arguing with an aries woman. ;pPosted by SolesanHow can someone eat your food that you bring home?
Something rude and blunt that my Aries had done to me.
Take things without asking.
Eat my food that I bring home.
When she is done in the bathroom she don't spray or turn on the vent.
If it's in the house it should be for everyone. If you brought it just for yourself than you're inconsiderate.
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Posted by Parkourler1. a sign and verbage of the times no~
Hi,
I recently discussed the difference between bluntness and rudeness with my aries gf and her aries friends. There are some things I find just offensive and they dont. Telling the truth without sugarcoating is one thing, but there has to be drawn a line don`t you think. I give you a few examples and then you tell me what you think.
1. There is a guy who is less succesfull discussing with one of her girls. She tells him youre a loser so piss of. She thought it was okay to say that. I dont think so.
2. Her boss a doctor is pretty blunt. She once said to a collegue " I dont think you are competent enough for this patient because his symptoms cannot be a clear indicator for just one disease. There are overlapping diagnoses with similar symptoms. I give to some one with more experience and who can spot more sublte indications.
Dont have a problem with that, the use of the phrase competent enough is a bit harsh though.
3. One likes to give orders. "Put the fork on there and there. Tell me what you found out".
4. They are quick thinkers and immediately tell everybody what to do. First of all I am a taurus and second I dont like
to be told what to do.
What do you think about the 4 Situations`?

Posted by Solesantff!Posted by AriesLoveI suppose you're right. No use arguing with an aries woman. ;pPosted by SolesanHow can someone eat your food that you bring home?
Something rude and blunt that my Aries had done to me.
Take things without asking.
Eat my food that I bring home.
When she is done in the bathroom she don't spray or turn on the vent.
If it's in the house it should be for everyone. If you brought it just for yourself than you're inconsiderate.
click to expand



Posted by ParkourlerPosted by FragranceThis. I think it is possible to say harsh truths in a more considerate way. And that has nothing to do with asskissing.
Librasaurusrex +1!
Regarding the topic, I'd like to say that I hate it when people attempt to justify their obnoxious and inconsiderate disposition, immaturity, hostility and especially their psychological instability with the claim that they're blunt and "sick of bullshit" or whatever other void of content reason they give.
People can be so mean, using language I don't even encounter on the Internet, insulting in such a harsh manner... and when confronted, replying something of the sort: " I'm just blunt, bitch, something you can't be". What the hell... self-assertion isn't equivalent to acting surly and unmannerly. Bluntness can instead be used (again without mortifying others) to get the discussion going. Rude behaviour obstructs any discussion or debate. In terms of giving an honest opinion, being rude is simultaneously being derogatory.
If you get your message across with softer words but in a fierce demeanor, it has the same effect. Harsh truths are already harsh so why making it worse?
See example nr 2. She used the word incompetent. That word is pretty mean and has a putting down effect. Just because someone has yet limited skills doesnt make him or her incompetent.
She could have said: I think you are not ready to try because ... .... whatever.
And it is bullshit that taurus want a wallflower, we dont want weak insecure women. Her playfulness and humour drawed me to her. Now that the butterflies start leaving my stomach, i see more and more, that there are many things, that can lead to big fights. First off all, I am not fast. My decision making process is slow and thorough. I am far less aggressive
and competitive, if at all. Maybe this will be just a nice summer affair, the wheather is still good here in germany and the party scene is great. There are a lot things where we don`t speak the same language.
Posted by Parkourler
Hi,
I recently discussed the difference between bluntness and rudeness with my aries gf and her aries friends. There are some things I find just offensive and they dont. Telling the truth without sugarcoating is one thing, but there has to be drawn a line don`t you think. I give you a few examples and then you tell me what you think.
2. Her boss a doctor is pretty blunt. She once said to a collegue " I dont think you are competent enough for this patient because his symptoms cannot be a clear indicator for just one disease. There are overlapping diagnoses with similar symptoms. I give to some one with more experience and who can spot more sublte indications.click to expand

Posted by AriSaturn
There is a very fine line. The problem with trying to be tactful is that smart people will pick up on what you're insinuating. So, if you think someone is incompetent but you want to phrase it in a way that doesn't hurt their feelings, the person picks up on A) you don't think they're competent and B) you've just insulted their intelligence by thinking they don't realize what you're really trying to say to them. So, in trying to preserve someone's feelings...you just called them incompetent and stupid when you could have just told them the job requires more experience than they currently have.
And a dumb person won't pick up at all that you think they're incompetent so they're unlikely to do anything about it which only leads to more frustration. Then you pawn them off on someone else and the dumb person doesn't realize they're being trained.
I cannot stand someone to bullshit me. Tell me the straight truth. You don't have to be insulting but simply "Some of these patients require a more experienced diagnostic team/caregiver/whatever."
Hurt me with the truth rather than comfort me with a lie. What comes to mind is American Idol auditions. lol. I don't know why. Simon Cowell was mean but it was what they really needed to hear. If I'm a horrible singer, I don't want people trying to be tactful and telling me I sound "okay" and letting me embarrass myself on national tv. Or someone being nice and suggesting more singing lessons so I can waste my money not knowing that I just don't have what it takes. It might hurt a lot at first but it's better than feeling lied to when I finally realize the truth.
Posted by AriSaturnI agree w/ you but a lot of people will get hurt and it will make them go into deep depression if they can't take it.
There is a very fine line. The problem with trying to be tactful is that smart people will pick up on what you're insinuating. So, if you think someone is incompetent but you want to phrase it in a way that doesn't hurt their feelings, the person picks up on A) you don't think they're competent and B) you've just insulted their intelligence by thinking they don't realize what you're really trying to say to them. So, in trying to preserve someone's feelings...you just called them incompetent and stupid when you could have just told them the job requires more experience than they currently have.
And a dumb person won't pick up at all that you think they're incompetent so they're unlikely to do anything about it which only leads to more frustration. Then you pawn them off on someone else and the dumb person doesn't realize they're being trained.
I cannot stand someone to bullshit me. Tell me the straight truth. You don't have to be insulting but simply "Some of these patients require a more experienced diagnostic team/caregiver/whatever."
Hurt me with the truth rather than comfort me with a lie. What comes to mind is American Idol auditions. lol. I don't know why. Simon Cowell was mean but it was what they really needed to hear. If I'm a horrible singer, I don't want people trying to be tactful and telling me I sound "okay" and letting me embarrass myself on national tv. Or someone being nice and suggesting more singing lessons so I can waste my money not knowing that I just don't have what it takes. It might hurt a lot at first but it's better than feeling lied to when I finally realize the truth.
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Hi,
I recently discussed the difference between bluntness and rudeness with my aries gf and her aries friends. There are some things I find just offensive and they dont. Telling the truth without sugarcoating is one thing, but there has to be drawn a line don`t you think. I give you a few examples and then you tell me what you think.
1. There is a guy who is less succesfull discussing with one of her girls. She tells him youre a loser so piss of. She thought it was okay to say that. I dont think so.
2. Her boss a doctor is pretty blunt. She once said to a collegue " I dont think you are competent enough for this patient because his symptoms cannot be a clear indicator for just one disease. There are overlapping diagnoses with similar symptoms. I give to some one with more experience and who can spot more sublte indications.
Dont have a problem with that, the use of the phrase competent enough is a bit harsh though.
3. One likes to give orders. "Put the fork on there and there. Tell me what you found out".
4. They are quick thinkers and immediately tell everybody what to do. First of all I am a taurus and second I dont like
to be told what to do.
What do you think about the 4 Situations`?