Do you have a Hades Moon?

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by SassyKiwi on Monday, April 18, 2016 and has 82 replies.

Hades Moon Meaning in Astrology

A Hades Moon usually means Moon-Pluto contact, a Scorpio Moon, or lunar energy that shows up as intense feelings, emotional secrecy, obsession, and survival-mode reactions. In real situations, many people notice this placement can make someone feel everything deeply but hide it until trust is tested. It is not just β€œdark emotions,” but a pattern of being pulled toward transformation, taboo topics, control issues, and emotional rebirth.

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I just figured out I do. I swear it's so dramatized lol. If you have any hard Moon/Pluto aspects (squares, oppositions, conjunctions) you have it too. It's said a Scorpio moon is automatically a Hades moon?

Those with this aspect have intense emotions. These emotions can be buried, be a struggle to process. They live life intensely. They prefer to be a loner. "Intimate relationships may be difficult, with emotions intense and extreme. An atmosphere of emotional brooding may surround you; and others may prefer to withdraw as they sense elemental danger." You've probably had an overpowering/dominant mother figure. You might've been your mother's toughest birth. You're able to sense energies more keenly. Eh of course there's the possible dark stuff like manipulation, self-destruction along with rebirth. "No other planetary contact has such depth of trauma, compulsion, and alienation. No other aspect has quite the same metamorphic and healing potential. Moon-Pluto contacts means opening to the possibility of renewal and regeneration, not just on a personal level - but for the planet and humankind as a whole."

"It is a curse. If you can, do some reading online about it. There's a book by Judy Hall (who coined 'Hades Moon'). Apparently it's dark, plutonian, and really insightful. On a Jungian level. It talks about how many people with Hades moons experienced difficult births or near-death experiences in the womb (two examples I found online were a man whose mother almost aborted him, and the other whose mother ignored her water breaking and went back to bed and he almost died from that). Oftentimes the relationship with the mother is smothering and unhealthy and that is foretold by the umbilical cord wrapped around the neck during childbirth. If they do not have a near-death experience at birth there is a possibility of early death. It tends to run in families and Hades moon people have a karmic connection to other Hades moons. The Kennedy family had Hades moon prevalent and there was a history of difficult births and as we know, tragic and early deaths. Near-death experience is denoted. That's to be embraced as it can ward off the early death karma."

"Hades moon people have a karmic connection to other Hades moons." Personally, that couldn't be much truer for me. Nearly every close person throughout my life also has a hard Moon/Pluto aspect... lol. The the moon changes signs frequently so it can't be random coincidences..? It'd make sense how we're drawn to each others' similar energies I guess. Do mention if you guys have seen any patterns among your close friends' or family's charts.

Crazy, deep stuff.

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What are hard moon/Pluto aspects?

Any examples so I can find out if I have this lol very unlikely though

Moon square Pluto
Moon conjunct Pluto
Moon opposition Pluto

Trines *may* count, but it's not as intense or difficult I believe.

I think the orbs have to be within 5 degrees? Some sites are different, this was the easiest for me:

http://www.alwaysastrology.com/birth-chart-calculator.html

Check mark "Display List of Aspects and Positions of Planets" and click "Redraw"

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Posted by Pisco
I have the Scorpio moon, as well as moon conjunct Pluto. Moon at 15'01 and Pluto at 15'10, I'm a mess. I blame this for why I am so emotionally sporadic. One hour I am calm, the next I'm stressed and emotional, the following I am overwhelmed with joy- I quit. And I love to be alone to a fault. Thank goodness for small benefits to my chart, like the rest of my placements being in air signs pretty much. Ha.

Oh goodness. A double whammy :/ Mine is at a tight orb too. I'm an emotional roller coaster as well which is why I've resorted to being so quiet. I just don't know how to process my emotions and have to always put up this sane front. I have air, fire, and earth to balance me luckily so I'm not that off my rockers.

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Posted by Pisco
And people think I'm scary or intimidating, is that normal for a hades moon? Because I'm really an easy going person.

Yeah. I can unintentionally be intimidating too. Some have said people with this aspect can give off an "air of authority."

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Puffball is a scorpie moon?? 😐

How are you so calm? lololol

Lol not exactly a scorpio moon. And I'm calm because of my other blessing placements :p I can be very jovial despite being an emotionally intense person.

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isn't hades moon = scorpio moon?

Yoou must have saggie placements then πŸ˜›

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Puffball is a scorpie moon?? 😐

How are you so calm? lololol

Lol not exactly a scorpio moon. And I'm calm because of my other blessing placements :p I can be very jovial despite being an emotionally intense person.

isn't hades moon = scorpio moon?

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No. Hades Moon can be those who have:
Moon square Pluto
Moon conjunct Pluto
Moon opposition Pluto
*Scorpio moon (without it aspecting Pluto)
*Moon in the 8th house

The last two aren't solid, but have been mentioned in different places to share the characteristics.

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Puffball is a scorpie moon?? 😐

How are you so calm? lololol

Lol not exactly a scorpio moon. And I'm calm because of my other blessing placements :p I can be very jovial despite being an emotionally intense person.

8th house moon is close enough to a Scorpio moon.

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Yeah, some sites do consider an 8th house moon to be a Hades Moon @hollyhock hon this thread is for you

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Because I think i remember you liking my post about Libra Moon, so i automatically assume you're a Libra moon lol. I dont know maybe it was different person I cant remember exactly now lol

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My sun is quincunx my moon and my Mercury is opposition my moon.

I hate my moon because instead of opening up (like a typical fire sun), I withdraw.

You're a scorpio moon, right? Of course you hate opening up! I have a shit load of squares, conjunctions, and oppositions (16 total)

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I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees Β· ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee ‑

And...they're all in 5th house Γ°ΕΈβ„’Ε’

But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house it's all good anyway Γ’Ε“Ε’

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything Γ’Β€

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My sun is quincunx my moon and my Mercury is opposition my moon.

I hate my moon because instead of opening up (like a typical fire sun), I withdraw.

You're a scorpio moon, right? Of course you hate opening up! I have a shit load of squares, conjunctions, and oppositions (16 total)

I dare not not count how many oppositions I have. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

The problem with not opening up, imo, is that you never learn the truth.

The worst thing a person can do to a Scorpio moon is feed their paranoia and enable judgmental behaviour.

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C'mon face the darkness πŸ˜†

I'm too stubborn and confident in myself to ever buy into anyone's paranoia. I love communicating and interacting with others as much as I enjoy solitude. I struggle to open up due to not knowing how to express my feelings. Don't fear :c

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I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees Β· ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee ‑

And...they're all in 5th house Γ°ΕΈβ„’Ε’

But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house it's all good anyway Γ’Ε“Ε’

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything Γ’Β€

5th house moon? How do you find relating to Leo moons?

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I knew only one Leo moon personally. She was Libra. She was a drama queen.. At first she was very friendly, I was okay relating to her...not exactly comfortable but okay. I can say I was comfortable with Scorpio n Taurus lunars since beginning. Anyway a while later, she just turned out to be too much drama, a fragile ego, very self-conceited...she even spread rumours about me and my friends but then stayed or tried to stay or appeared to stay very friendly with me... 😐

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I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees Β· ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee ‑

And...they're all in 5th house Γ°ΕΈβ„’Ε’

But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house it's all good anyway Γ’Ε“Ε’

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything Γ’Β€

5th house moon? How do you find relating to Leo moons?

I knew only one Leo moon personally. She was Libra. She was a drama queen.. At first she was very friendly, I was okay relating to her...not exactly comfortable but okay. I can say I was comfortable with Scorpio n Taurus lunars since beginning. Anyway a while later, she just turned out to be too much drama, a fragile ego, very self-conceited...she even spread rumours about me and my friends but then stayed or tried to stay or appeared to stay very friendly with me... 😐

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I had a best friend who was a Libra sun with a Leo moon. She was far from a drama queen, very down to earth. But she did have a few scorpio placements like venus.

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I knew a scorp moon conj pluto. He's intense. Can read people without you revealing much. He cracks down, seeks revenge, and thinks long term. He's amazing as an accomplice but demanding as a partner

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My sun is quincunx my moon and my Mercury is opposition my moon.

I hate my moon because instead of opening up (like a typical fire sun), I withdraw.

You're a scorpio moon, right? Of course you hate opening up! I have a shit load of squares, conjunctions, and oppositions (16 total)

I dare not not count how many oppositions I have. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

The problem with not opening up, imo, is that you never learn the truth.

The worst thing a person can do to a Scorpio moon is feed their paranoia and enable judgmental behaviour.

C'mon face the darkness πŸ˜†

I'm too stubborn and confident in myself to ever buy into anyone's paranoia. I love communicating and interacting with others as much as I enjoy solitude. I struggle to open up due to not knowing how to express my feelings. Don't fear :c

I've faced the darkness enough in my lifetime tyvm. When I was younger the paranoia used to be a big obstacles. I lost good friends as a result.

Nowadays my Mercury and rising seem to be calling the shots a lot. Less judgmental and not so much into paranoia. I prefer to take my time with decisions these days.

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I'm sorry... I can only imagine. I hope you're dealing with things much better.

I read something about growing into our rising signs as we age, so I'd believe that. Do you have sun conjunct mercury?

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Posted by trollbait

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Posted by RumiL

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Posted by RumiL
I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees Β· ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee ‑

And...they're all in 5th house Γ°ΕΈβ„’Ε’

But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house it's all good anyway Γ’Ε“Ε’

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything Γ’Β€

5th house moon? How do you find relating to Leo moons?

I knew only one Leo moon personally. She was Libra. She was a drama queen.. At first she was very friendly, I was okay relating to her...not exactly comfortable but okay. I can say I was comfortable with Scorpio n Taurus lunars since beginning. Anyway a while later, she just turned out to be too much drama, a fragile ego, very self-conceited...she even spread rumours about me and my friends but then stayed or tried to stay or appeared to stay very friendly with me... 😐

I had a best friend who was a Libra sun with a Leo moon. She was far from a drama queen, very down to earth. But she did have a few scorpio placements like venus.

I generally get along with Leo moons. I have a Libra sun/Leo moon friend who is loyal almost to a fault - but he also has heaps of Scorpio placements.

The only Leo moon I ended up not getting along with (we parted ways on a bad note) was a Leo sun.

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I have never been able to get close to Leo suns but I adore Leo moons. Most Leo moons I'm close to tend to be grounded with water or earth. Leo sun/Leo moon sounds like a nightmare :p

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I have the Scorpio moon, as well as moon conjunct Pluto. Moon at 15'01 and Pluto at 15'10, I'm a mess. I blame this for why I am so emotionally sporadic. One hour I am calm, the next I'm stressed and emotional, the following I am overwhelmed with joy- I quit. And I love to be alone to a fault. Thank goodness for small benefits to my chart, like the rest of my placements being in air signs pretty much. Ha.

:O Pisco, are you my long lost twin sister?

I have Pisces Sun,

Scorpio moon conjunct pluto ALSO at ZERO degrees difference

Aqua Mars
Aqua V-nuts

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So what about Pluto sextile or trine moon? Anyone have either, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I've read about what they supposedly mean but can't separate mine (trine) from positive Scorpio traits I have from my Scorpio placements.

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I have the Scorpio moon, as well as moon conjunct Pluto. Moon at 15'01 and Pluto at 15'10, I'm a mess. I blame this for why I am so emotionally sporadic. One hour I am calm, the next I'm stressed and emotional, the following I am overwhelmed with joy- I quit. And I love to be alone to a fault. Thank goodness for small benefits to my chart, like the rest of my placements being in air signs pretty much. Ha.

:O Pisco, are you my long lost twin sister?

I have Pisces Sun,

Scorpio moon conjunct pluto ALSO at ZERO degrees difference

Aqua Mars
Aqua V-nuts

We're pretty close! Oh my.

Only difference is that I have a Taurus Mars πŸ˜›

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Sag rising?

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

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Posted by Pisco

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Posted by Pisco
I have the Scorpio moon, as well as moon conjunct Pluto. Moon at 15'01 and Pluto at 15'10, I'm a mess. I blame this for why I am so emotionally sporadic. One hour I am calm, the next I'm stressed and emotional, the following I am overwhelmed with joy- I quit. And I love to be alone to a fault. Thank goodness for small benefits to my chart, like the rest of my placements being in air signs pretty much. Ha.

:O Pisco, are you my long lost twin sister?

I have Pisces Sun,

Scorpio moon conjunct pluto ALSO at ZERO degrees difference

Aqua Mars
Aqua V-nuts

We're pretty close! Oh my.

Only difference is that I have a Taurus Mars πŸ˜›

Sag rising?

We're losing our "twin"ness. I have a Gemini rising, we're both mutable risings though.

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I don't even know you anymore...

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

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Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

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Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

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eh im a virgo pluto too.. you calling us old? *Raise eyebrows*

So you are scorp or sag.. spill it!!!

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

eh im a virgo pluto too.. you calling us old? *Raise eyebrows*

So you are scorp or sag.. spill it!!!

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haha, yes, we are eternally youthful. πŸ™‚

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

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Yes, I'm older than most DXPers it seems. πŸ™‚

I wish the sign was called Phoenix instead of Scorpio because I definitely relate more to the symbolism of the phoenix. And the dove, of course, hence my user name. πŸ™‚

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

eh im a virgo pluto too.. you calling us old? *Raise eyebrows*

So you are scorp or sag.. spill it!!!

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My hades moon won't let me tell you :p

Qbone and P-Angel is among you guys, right? All the virgo plutos on dxp are adorable!! You guys are my favorite people here πŸ˜„

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

eh im a virgo pluto too.. you calling us old? *Raise eyebrows*

So you are scorp or sag.. spill it!!!

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My hades moon won't let me tell you :p

Qbone and P-Angel is among you guys, right? All the virgo plutos on dxp are adorable!! You guys are my favorite people here πŸ˜„

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hum i think P-Angel is a tad older isn't she 58 or 59?

lol im 29degrees virgo.. ALMOST leeb lol i'm 45.

Plus it's okay. i already know what yours is πŸ˜‰ I won't telll!

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Posted by CopperDove

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So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

Yes, I'm older than most DXPers it seems. πŸ™‚

I wish the sign was called Phoenix instead of Scorpio because I definitely relate more to the symbolism of the phoenix. And the dove, of course, hence my user name. πŸ™‚

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Scorpios were the only ones gifted with the three totems. I think it's neat how Hades mooners supposedly also deal with the three scorpio stages of evolution. It feels like astrology is so bias towards Pluto lol. Or maybe I just haven't come across the other stuff yet.

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Posted by CopperDove
So what about Pluto sextile moon? Anyone have that, and any thoughts on it? Maybe it's particularly good in some way, if Hades moon is difficult given the hard aspects.

I mean moon sextile/trines are still considered aspects to Pluto but definitely less rough than hard aspects. Do you relate anything to it?

Sorry, I edited my post but not fast enough so you only saw my original one.

I have moon trine Pluto, close to 1 degree orb. But I have one of those weird ones, where the signs themselves aren't trine but they still form a trine thanks to degree - 29 degrees 2 seconds Virgo Pluto, 0 degrees 23 seconds Gem moon.

I've read about what the trine might do, but I can't distinguish that from positive Scorpio traits I have.

Holy snap, you're literally two plutos older than me. Lol, I think that's neat :p It all depends on your life experience. You might be a Phoenix if you don't relate to any of this tbh.

eh im a virgo pluto too.. you calling us old? *Raise eyebrows*

So you are scorp or sag.. spill it!!!

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My hades moon won't let me tell you :p

Qbone and P-Angel is among you guys, right? All the virgo plutos on dxp are adorable!! You guys are my favorite people here πŸ˜„

hum i think P-Angel is a tad older isn't she 58 or 59?

lol im 29degrees virgo.. ALMOST leeb lol i'm 45.

Plus it's okay. i already know what yours is πŸ˜‰ I won't telll!

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How? o_o PM.

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I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees Β· ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee ‑

And...they're all in 5th house Γ°ΕΈβ„’Ε’

But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house it's all good anyway Γ’Ε“Ε’

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything Γ’Β€

5th house moon? How do you find relating to Leo moons?

I knew only one Leo moon personally. She was Libra. She was a drama queen.. At first she was very friendly, I was okay relating to her...not exactly comfortable but okay. I can say I was comfortable with Scorpio n Taurus lunars since beginning. Anyway a while later, she just turned out to be too much drama, a fragile ego, very self-conceited...she even spread rumours about me and my friends but then stayed or tried to stay or appeared to stay very friendly with me... 😐

I had a best friend who was a Libra sun with a Leo moon. She was far from a drama queen, very down to earth. But she did have a few scorpio placements like venus.

I generally get along with Leo moons. I have a Libra sun/Leo moon friend who is loyal almost to a fault - but he also has heaps of Scorpio placements.

The only Leo moon I ended up not getting along with (we parted ways on a bad note) was a Leo sun.

I have never been able to get close to Leo suns but I adore Leo moons. Most Leo moons I'm close to tend to be grounded with water or earth. Leo sun/Leo moon sounds like a nightmare :p

She gave new meaning to the title drama queen. it was hard to keep up with and eventually almost anything I said/did offended her.

Leo sun/moon/rising/mercury

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I think its ridiculous to strictly judge people by their astrology placements, but a Leo stellium like that is a red flag for me to stay away for good lol

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What are hard moon/Pluto aspects?

Any examples so I can find out if I have this lol very unlikely though

Moon square Pluto
Moon conjunct Pluto
Moon opposition Pluto

Trines *may* count, but it's not as intense or difficult I believe.

I think the orbs have to be within 5 degrees? Some sites are different, this was the easiest for me:

http://www.alwaysastrology.com/birth-chart-calculator.html

Check mark "Display List of Aspects and Positions of Planets" and click "Redraw"

I have Moon Square Pluto at 5 degrees πŸ˜•

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Lol, welcome to the Hades lunar club! So, do you relate with any of this mumbo jumbo or have at any point in your life? πŸ˜† You have a lot of fire, so I'm interested to hear.

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i have moon square pluto
i could relate to most of the Op but i always thought they were scorpio traits (like my sun) except for the mother and birth stuff.

my mother still guilt trips me because my birth was apparently the most long and painful experience from hell she'd ever had 😒 πŸ˜›

i did have a terrible connection with my mother growing up (probably because i was such a pain in the ass when being born πŸ˜› )
It has gotten a lot better though, to the point that i now see her as one of my bff's.

i guess it's because i was such a sensitive child and she tried to toughen me up to no avail.

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I'm GLAD I have no Pluto-Moon aspect by degrees Β· ..my moon and Pluto are quite far apart!

And luckily, my moon conjuncts Jupiter. Weeeeee ‑

And...they're all in 5th house Γ°ΕΈβ„’Ε’

But NN is sitting nicely comfortable with these planets in the same house it's all good anyway Γ’Ε“Ε’

Yeah I'm secretive, closed, blah blah blah but...who cares, its my own journey and I'm loving it so far. Wouldn't trade my placements for anything Γ’Β€

5th house moon? How do you find relating to Leo moons?

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this guy is a 5th house moon and stellium there. Gordon ramsey.

and he married a leo/virgo cusper. so interesting!! the 5th house moon is in VIRGO stellium.

I am finding a lot of house energy to the sun sign or venus/mars,merc wherever it is hitting or rather a dominant energy.

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Puffball is a scorpie moon?? 😐

How are you so calm? lololol

Lol not exactly a scorpio moon. And I'm calm because of my other blessing placements :p I can be very jovial despite being an emotionally intense person.

8th house moon is close enough to a Scorpio moon.

That *might* explain why I relate way more to Scorpio moons than my own moon sign.

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you might even end up marrying a scorpio sun OR scorpio stellium, or packed 8th house.

my step mother in law has 8th house moon and she's married to a scorpio stellium.

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