Montgomery
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When yer Dead
Posted by hollyhock😆
And you give me shit for being negative....:/
You are.
And this isn't negative.
A little morbid, maybe. 🙂
So what camp are you in?
Posted by MontgomeryOn the randomest of notes, this reminds me of a draft I once wrote for a Twilight Zone episode about a boy who gets so taken by the death of his grandfather and the fact that life goes on for everyone despite him 'ceasing to exist', that his only ambition in life becomes to rise to the ranks of a world leader so that he gets to have one finger on "the button" as a way of seizing control over his own mortality and existence as we know it.
As though once they cease to exist physically, so does everything
and everyone else.
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd482/Frankthefish/SH% 20GIFs/TarasMine.gif
I don't know if that captures some of what you're trying to say 😄
Posted by enfant_terribleCoool...Posted by MontgomeryOn the randomest of notes, this reminds me of a draft I once wrote for a Twilight Zone episode about a boy who gets so taken by the death of his grandfather and the fact that life goes on for everyone despite him 'ceasing to exist', that his only ambition in life becomes to rise to the ranks of a world leader so that he gets to have one finger on "the button" as a way of seizing control over his own mortality and existence as we know it.
As though once they cease to exist physically, so does everything
and everyone else.
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd482/Frankthefish/SH% 20GIFs/TarasMine.gif
I don't know if that captures some of what you're trying to say 😄
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And no, not exactly... but it's fascinating, nonetheless.
Control is a great motivator.
😛
Well your post inspired me to sharpen my pencil again,nontheless. You're looking at the next Harlan Ellison 😛
I want to be cremated. It's the responsible choice, environmentally wise. Also it's less pricey, so less of a strain on whomever survives me.
I want my ashes to be returned to the Pacific Ocean. Like a big lebowski vibe, but with the wind instead of all over those dumping me ‚
I want my ashes to be returned to the Pacific Ocean. Like a big lebowski vibe, but with the wind instead of all over those dumping me ‚
Posted by enfant_terribleGood... you should!
Well your post inspired me to sharpen my pencil again,nontheless. You're looking at the next Harlan Ellison 😛
🙂
Posted by LadyNeptune😄
I want to be cremated. It's the responsible choice, environmentally wise. Also it's less pricey, so less of a strain on whomever survives me.
I want my ashes to be returned to the Pacific Ocean. Like a big lebowski vibe, but with the wind ibateau of all over those dumping me ‚
Naturally.
Posted by Impulsvwell my Pisces sun grandmother wanted to be buried. not cremated. My husband's Pisces sun grandma too. she believed in being buried and NOT cremated.Posted by LadyNeptuneIm with u
I want to be cremated. It's the responsible choice, environmentally wise. Also it's less pricey, so less of a strain on whomever survives me.
I want my ashes to be returned to the Pacific Ocean. Like a big lebowski vibe, but with the wind instead of all over those dumping me ‚
Neptune society
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I want to be buried, with my husband. our bodies for the WORMS to be fed on, to give back to the earth.
from ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
from ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
No. I am a strong believer in reincarnation.. Even if our conscious ceases to exist, indicating a true death, the energy carries on.
I'm split, Monty.
On the one hand, perception is reality. So when my perception ends- so does reality.
On the other hand, I'm not sure my perception ends after death.
Assuming it's truly game over at death- then I do care what happens to people I love after I die. But I WON'T care what happens to them once I'm dead.
On the one hand, perception is reality. So when my perception ends- so does reality.
On the other hand, I'm not sure my perception ends after death.
Assuming it's truly game over at death- then I do care what happens to people I love after I die. But I WON'T care what happens to them once I'm dead.
if you mean you consciousness.. I don't really care if it will live on. If this is all I get, I'm stoked the world gave me so much, and the ride was great!
I don't care what happens to my body either, like I don't want some freak to come a long and have sex with it. but otherwise it doesn't matter, hopefully my love ones will pick a really low cost eco green friendly way to dispose of my body.
idk what kind of astro influences would come into play.
I don't care what happens to my body either, like I don't want some freak to come a long and have sex with it. but otherwise it doesn't matter, hopefully my love ones will pick a really low cost eco green friendly way to dispose of my body.
idk what kind of astro influences would come into play.
Posted by enfant_terribleInteresting. Morbidly deep. Deeply morbid.Posted by MontgomeryOn the randomest of notes, this reminds me of a draft I once wrote for a Twilight Zone episode about a boy who gets so taken by the death of his grandfather and the fact that life goes on for everyone despite him 'ceasing to exist', that his only ambition in life becomes to rise to the ranks of a world leader so that he gets to have one finger on "the button" as a way of seizing control over his own mortality and existence as we know it.
As though once they cease to exist physically, so does everything
and everyone else.
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd482/Frankthefish/SH% 20GIFs/TarasMine.gif
I don't know if that captures some of what you're trying to say 😄
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YOLO SWAG
Posted by ImpulsvI think that's the biggest problem with this attitude, yes, though it certainly
What do u mean like planning financially for those left behind?
isn't the only one.
Posted by hollyhockIndeed, madam.
It is Montgomery's world and we are just living in it.click to expand
Posted by xyIrising
Somebody will benefit from my healthy organs.
I think about cremation after. Use the land for something else.
^ My family is against both and they don't know about it.
Spirituality/afterlife is influenced by my family and world events. From a young age, I have this disconnect with "god". I see more godly qualities in people. I'm hurt by gods actions, if he exist. I always thought he was cruel to keep us guessing but there's a part of me that wants to believe that such thing exist. What a joke, all this time we're to believe god is good but what if its bad. What if, this whole time we're going against its will? No wonder the good will never prosper and die young. Beef with god. I need a tin foil hat so it can't read my thoughts.
I still think that it all matters from beginning to end, not in that special kind of way but we all have infinite function in the universe..we'ere like individual cells that seem insignificant but makes up the body
i have chiron in 12th
I have chiron in 12th, too.
Thanks for you answer... I appreciate it. 🙂
And idk-- since you cite family as a major influence, how much investigation
have you done into the religion you were born into?
Posted by MontgomeryI believe such people live blissfully ignorant. For the fault of someone else always. I'm being facetious..
I was reminded again over the weekend that there are people
out there who do not give one fuck, what happens after they're
Dead.
I mean adults, some of whom I really like (except for this, of course).
As though once they cease to exist physically, so does everything
and everyone else.
Are you like this?
If so... what do attribute it to?
Chart?
Upbringing?
I can't decide.
It is smart to be prepared. Always.
Peopel die and leave debts, wills and untied shoelaces that need to be tied.... It leaves others to tie those loose ends. Very sloppy IMO.
It's a lack of responsibility perhaps.
Or straight ignorance, again.
Or a uttter lack of giving a shit.
I, at age 27, have a life Insurance plan. I will not be a burden.
I donate what can be given, burn the rest, and give my inheritance to my loved ones. They can throw it out, keep it, or pawn it. Means nothing to me at that point.
But you see those who die in nursing homes leaving debts and useless shit to be dealt with in a court when that person lacks the time and money to do anything other than carry that weight the lifeless body bestows upon them. Sad.
I hope in my time of dying, that I can crawl to the woods and blanket myself underneath the leaves alone.
I will not die in a nursing home. Or on morphine begging for more life. I will die quick in an accident or on my own terms. Ill chose to die because I'm ready if God grants it.
This topic jars me hard. I have too much emotion connected with it. I think too much about my future death because a burden I'll never be.
I don't think it's in a xharf.. I think it's a mentality. That when one gets old or sick or too out of their mind to care ... They EXPECT and feel entitled to be taken care of...
How quickly we forget that we are in charge of our destiny after we die.
Like I said.
Let the leaves blanket me when I die because I'll crawl to the woods and die like an animal alone and free. Not drugged up with people fighting over my valuables.
Dying is so vain these days.
It's natural is if not?
Why do people die in these places? Its not humane in my opinion. It's a weakness that makes us believe that we need to be sedated ti face death. We should make that dexiosn siber and unselfishly.
Did I do off your question? I tried to anser the best I could ha.
How quickly we forget that we are in charge of our destiny after we die.
Like I said.
Let the leaves blanket me when I die because I'll crawl to the woods and die like an animal alone and free. Not drugged up with people fighting over my valuables.
Dying is so vain these days.
It's natural is if not?
Why do people die in these places? Its not humane in my opinion. It's a weakness that makes us believe that we need to be sedated ti face death. We should make that dexiosn siber and unselfishly.
Did I do off your question? I tried to anser the best I could ha.
There are things that I'd like to happen after I'm dead, but since I'm expecting to not be able to care or feel/think anything after I'm dead, I'm 'not caring' in anticipation of not being able to care. If that makes any sense.
Posted by 9waterlion9But if you marry or make decisions that will affect others
Also in terms of planning, I feel this is more caring for the people left behind and not about your death itself. It makes it much easier on the people grieving and less messy for inheritance division...& funeral services can be a complete scam. So writing a will is for those you care about, not for you. Me being an only child with no children and no valuable possessions though, I can't say I particularly care about that either. 😛
after you're gone, you would take those things into
consideration, I imagine?
Isn't necessarily about money though it often is.
🙂
Posted by ScenicIt makes sense.
There are things that I'd like to happen after I'm dead, but since I'm expecting to not be able to care or feel/think anything after I'm dead, I'm 'not caring' in anticipation of not being able to care. If that makes any sense.
I'm glad you replied. 🙂
I honestly feel like I didn't read the fine print before I signed up for this journey... Totally fell for a marketing gimmick and got trapped here.
Sometimes I cannot wait to get off this hurtling piece of space junk.
But we all have to leave the same way. There's only one exit- stage left 'Death'
Kind of looking forward to it. I believe there's more. Definitely.
Sometimes I cannot wait to get off this hurtling piece of space junk.
But we all have to leave the same way. There's only one exit- stage left 'Death'
Kind of looking forward to it. I believe there's more. Definitely.
Posted by xyIrisingHmm... mine pushed attendance--Posted by Montgomerythey pushed me to explore spirituality, from them being so strict (grandparents and my dad)Posted by xyIrising
Somebody will benefit from my healthy organs.
I think about cremation after. Use the land for something else.
^ My family is against both and they don't know about it.
Spirituality/afterlife is influenced by my family and world events. From a young age, I have this disconnect with "god". I see more godly qualities in people. I'm hurt by gods actions, if he exist. I always thought he was cruel to keep us guessing but there's a part of me that wants to believe that such thing exist. What a joke, all this time we're to believe god is good but what if its bad. What if, this whole time we're going against its will? No wonder the good will never prosper and die young. Beef with god. I need a tin foil hat so it can't read my thoughts.
I still think that it all matters from beginning to end, not in that special kind of way but we all have infinite function in the universe..we'ere like individual cells that seem insignificant but makes up the body
i have chiron in 12th
I have chiron in 12th, too.
Thanks for you answer... I appreciate it. 🙂
And idk-- since you cite family as a major influence, how much investigation
have you done into the religion you were born into?
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not so much exploration.
Posted by wagtailDefinitely.
I honestly feel like I didn't read the fine print before I signed up for this journey... Totally fell for a marketing gimmick and got trapped here.
Sometimes I cannot wait to get off this hurtling piece of space junk.
But we all have to leave the same way. There's only one exit- stage left 'Death'
Kind of looking forward to it. I believe there's more. Definitely.
This whole is not for the faint of heart.
WaterLEOs
😄
Posted by xyIrisingAnd?Posted by Montgomerybut you're a leo,.Posted by xyIrisingHmm... mine pushed attendance--Posted by Montgomerythey pushed me to explore spirituality, from them being so strict (grandparents and my dad)Posted by xyIrising
Somebody will benefit from my healthy organs.
I think about cremation after. Use the land for something else.
^ My family is against both and they don't know about it.
Spirituality/afterlife is influenced by my family and world events. From a young age, I have this disconnect with "god". I see more godly qualities in people. I'm hurt by gods actions, if he exist. I always thought he was cruel to keep us guessing but there's a part of me that wants to believe that such thing exist. What a joke, all this time we're to believe god is good but what if its bad. What if, this whole time we're going against its will? No wonder the good will never prosper and die young. Beef with god. I need a tin foil hat so it can't read my thoughts.
I still think that it all matters from beginning to end, not in that special kind of way but we all have infinite function in the universe..we'ere like individual cells that seem insignificant but makes up the body
i have chiron in 12th
I have chiron in 12th, too.
Thanks for you answer... I appreciate it. 🙂
And idk-- since you cite family as a major influence, how much investigation
have you done into the religion you were born into?
not so much exploration.
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I don't understand your response.
Posted by starloverRight back at you, my friend ☆♡
...and Monty, did i ever tell you I love you girl
"As though once they cease to exist physically, so does everything and everyone else."
I think we have become very self serving - so many do not realize the impact they have and/or can have on everything else while they are here and that when they are gone the world carries on without them so why not do something good while here so that it does last after you are gone ...
I think we have become very self serving - so many do not realize the impact they have and/or can have on everything else while they are here and that when they are gone the world carries on without them so why not do something good while here so that it does last after you are gone ...
Posted by xyIrisingYeah that sounds like attendance was encouraged
and ask money from people who barely have any. What kind of god would let these pain and sufferings persist.. why did it create us this way.. maybe it's a distraction for the poor.
i'm guess moon in aspect with chiron counts here along with the house placements
more than exploration.
Are they Catholic?
Posted by gengbenghiskhanOkay... thanks. 🙂
I'd say as long as you don't believe in hell, it's easy to not care.
If you fear the possibility of eternal torture, you're going to probably care somewhat.
So, upbringing is my vote.
BUT atheists love their kids and families too.
I think you have a point on upbringing, but not
believing in hell wouldn't necessarily mean you
dont care how your people fare after you're gone.
Posted by gengbenghiskhanWhy you quit coffee? 😱Posted by Montgomeryoh I misunderstood then. sorry, first day of weaning off of coffee 🙂. I was referring to whether people care what happens to themselves in their afterlives or lack thereof.Posted by gengbenghiskhanOkay... thanks. 🙂
I'd say as long as you don't believe in hell, it's easy to not care.
If you fear the possibility of eternal torture, you're going to probably care somewhat.
So, upbringing is my vote.
BUT atheists love their kids and families too.
I think you have a point on upbringing, but not
believing in hell wouldn't necessarily mean you
dont care how your people fare after you're gone.
if you mean whether people care about what happens to the survivors after they die, then it's prob more of a question if you have people (or cats) in the world you care about. upbringing again.
however, if there are no loved ones to worry about leaving behind, then it becomes a question of how altruistic you are. that I see as a combination of upbringing and born personality (where the chart can play a role).click to expand
Crazy.
Anyway no apologies necessary-- I'm glad you gave
it some thought.
Posted by starloverI had a nice conversation about death and inheritance with my parents today too ironically.
Oh i care very much about dying and providing for our son.....i couldn't stand to think i didn't leave him at least a piece of land, house or amount of money
As for my funeral......i just want loads of dancing and music and singing 😄.....people having a good time and dancing on my coffin lol
After the send off, i promise to *stay in touch* with all those that need it
we talked about who will get who, and what houses/properties are in the will. (there's also the properties of my grandparents)
I believe too in keeping the properties/homes for the children.
but they need to realize responsibilities too, like to pay for electricity, upkeep, gardening, whatever payments need to be made. It's like a takeover kind of. From your grandparents to your children to grandchildren.
Some posts remind me of this song...
Posted by GetMisted@GetMisted that's some real Vikings-belief shit right therePosted by MontgomeryYes. I am like this.
I was reminded again over the weekend that there are people
out there who do not give one fuck, what happens after they're
Dead.
I mean adults, some of whom I really like (except for this, of course).
As though once they cease to exist physically, so does everything
and everyone else.
Are you like this?
If so... what do attribute it to?
Chart?
Upbringing?
I can't decide.
Science?
Death is just something I do not fear. It's a part of life.
The world will keep spinning.
People will go on about their lives.
Unless you did something in life that puts your name in the history books, you will eventually be forgotten.click to expand
I'm definitely concerned about the people in my life after I'm gone, and my cat. So I'm doing my best to incorporate that into my will. I've talked to some of my friends and family members about this, to find out if there is anything of mine they particularly like that I could leave them.
I feel/sense there is something after we die, another plane/world, and I don't have fear of it, just a sense of mystery, and it's usually a calm feeling. I don't have a desire to be there soon, even though this world has a lot of misery in it. I'm hoping that I'm doing some good here, to help people and other animals for example (deliberate phrasing, because humans are animals), even if it's small scale, so I'm at least not contributing to misery.
I feel/sense there is something after we die, another plane/world, and I don't have fear of it, just a sense of mystery, and it's usually a calm feeling. I don't have a desire to be there soon, even though this world has a lot of misery in it. I'm hoping that I'm doing some good here, to help people and other animals for example (deliberate phrasing, because humans are animals), even if it's small scale, so I'm at least not contributing to misery.
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out there who do not give one fuck, what happens after they're
Dead.
I mean adults, some of whom I really like (except for this, of course).
As though once they cease to exist physically, so does everything
and everyone else.
Are you like this?
If so... what do attribute it to?
Chart?
Upbringing?
I can't decide.