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Who do you Think would be Considered to be a Plutonian Person? (Page 3)
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Posted by RumiLPluto works in a similar way (after all Pluto - is the ruling planet of Scorpio). See... you do know what it's like. 😛 It's just that you talk about it so lightly - as if you just lost your hand in a blast and your reaction to that went something like: it's just scratch - no big deal, i still have the other hand.. and look at the way the bone comes out of my severed hand, it looks as if I'm giving you the middle finger! And look at the way blood is sprinkling in all directions! If i push on it like this - the blood comes out like ketchup! Cool! ^^ That's what my Aries Moon likes about Aries influenced people... 😄 Anyway, good for you - if you managed to overcome that dark period and express it in the most positive way possible. Just don't take those achievements for granted... cause you'll end-up falling from a higher place if you do (and the bottom will be filled with lizards... ^^ ).
I guess I'm lucky Pluto doesn't make any aspects other than aspects with outer planets. It's in conjunction with my true node though! 😢 ...any opinion on that?
I've had bad experiences though, yes, ones where I wanted to die. Or rather I felt i was brutally kept alive. But I think Scorpionic effect goes like this -- it burns you to your core, burns everything inside(painful and time and energy consuming process) and then...you start realising how valuable the experience and the lessons are...and then, if you have a happy aspect like moon-Jupiter-NN conjunction, you will come out happy and grateful for just having gone through it and standing a new human. And that gratitude is so much so that you cannot help but be happy for every single breathe you were allowed to take so far 🙂 One surrenders to everything and realises he is just nothingness and starts seeing beauty everywhere.
The end result is...such experiences makes one go like - "I'm blessed as long as I breathe" .
It doesn't make one dark. It makes one dance in darkness. IMO. :p
How and who one ends-up to be after those experiences... depends on ones approach, how or if he can deal with it. Cause some people get lost in that darkness. They can't find the strength to fight - or the light to make sense of what they're going though - and what that means to them, so they can use that darkness to transform themselves for better - instead of letting darkens flow through them and thus - they'd become its tool.
plutonic is the astro version of emo
Katy Perry seems very Plutonian. Powerful emotional songs, sexual but fun aura.
Posted by RumiLPositive, I will agree with - that could definitely be the case. Intensely positive?😄
Hahaha. It's funny when I read such stuff:p
In that case my chart is entirely super plutonic.
I have Scorpio stellium WITH NN 😛
..but the intensity and all that is typecasted as "Plutonic" is nonsense if you ask me 🙂
Plutonic can also mean one who is positive, non-obsessive and light too. It's always associated with all that is "dark and oh-so-intense, deep blah blah sex blah blah blah" . It's wrong IMO.
The intense and serious parts have always been there in all people that I know that I would consider being plutonian, though.
Posted by firebunnyDo you mean that's how you feel, or that that's what Pullen or Skywriter say?
i think my venus overpowers my pluto. it's my top 2. pretty interchangeable. they also oppose so that aspect must be so important.
Posted by starwarsCould it be because the only personal planets that are heavily touched by plutonian energies in your chart are your mercury and your venus? Are your merc and venus conjunct pluto? I think that would make a huge difference. What are the orbs of your sun - pluto sextile and your mars - pluto trine?Posted by HappyCapperlibra.Posted by starwarsWhat's in that 8th house of yours? Do you have any planets in scorpio? Pluto aspects?
I'm Plutonian, I have a heavy 8th house, scorpio my dom sign.
but i dont feel the "intensity" thing you all talk about nor do i have the intense stare whatsoever lol
i cant tell if my curiosity and the fact that im intrigued by whats under the surface, people minds and what make them tick is the effect of all that scorpionic energy or if its my virgo sun, because that so virgoish as well.
i think the only thing that 8th house does is make me understand and get along with scorpios. - but that so virgoish too lol im lost
merc in libra, venus, jupiter, pluto, nn all in scorpio in the 8th.
i dont have strong pluto aspects, its position is what makes it my dominant. (my most aspected planets are neptune and uranus which i never looked so much into)
pluto aspects:
uranus, neptune, sun sextile pluto.
mars trine pluto.
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Posted by cheekyfaerieLOL Not confusing at all.😄
Ha. My Pluto edges out my Saturn, but I still get mistaken for a Fire sign. 😆
Posted by PlaguedThis is interesting. Would you care to elaborate on the bold text? In what way do you feel Pullen is wrong? And also, what features in your chart, makes you plutonian, in your opinion?
Haha well pullen calculates based off of a few things aspects etc. So to say "if pluto isn't in your top you aren't plutonian" is a tad bit silly in a sense.
At least for me it wouldn't be plausible to dismiss plutonian influence. Wherever that sag is coming from I don't feel it.
Based off positions and aspects
1) venus = 71.5
2) sun = 70.2
3) mercury = 68.4
4) pluto = 59.8
Signs power and ranking
1) Libra = 123.4
2) Scorpio = 83.3
3) Leo = 63.3
4) sagittarius = 53.6
Sorry guys ima jump on the pluto bandwagon cause I can.
Posted by WateryGemCan't say that I do, tbh. There are so many misconceptions of Gemini, imo, that it actually irritates me to read some of the posts there. I am very seldom on the Gemini board nowadays...but not because of the Geminis.Posted by HappyCapperThe Gem board is extremely insightful!! I always leave it feeling like an enlightened being. 🙌Posted by tizianiAgreed. It's pretty bad.Posted by QuantumSeriously it's got to be the most mind-numbing for them. I wouldn't trade places with them on any astro forum right now.Posted by HappyCapperYeah pretty much all signs have to put up with crap like that. Geminis have it the worst.Posted by QuantumWhy don't you try the cap board?
I mean..if you want to be Plutonian that's fine.
But then you also are required to hang out on the Scorpio board and be pelted with foolish questions about intensity and testing and rebirth and prostate massages with the rest of us...
"Why are you all so cold?"
"You only care about money, don't ya?"
"Why are y'all so boring?"
We do get questions about testing, as well, but less about prostate massages. 😛
"Why are all of you dirty whores"
"Why does everyone want to murder you"click to expand
Posted by InstantkarmaI care and I'm not even a gemini. I think people are being very unfair many times, and I don't like that. And, tbh, I have read posts from you where it sounded at least to me that you did care. Anywho, whether the natives care or not, doesn't make it right for people to treat one sign worse than any other, imo.Posted by HappyCapperPosted by tizianiAgreed. It's pretty bad.Posted by QuantumSeriously it's got to be the most mind-numbing for them. I wouldn't trade places with them on any astro forum right now.Posted by HappyCapperYeah pretty much all signs have to put up with crap like that. Geminis have it the worst.Posted by QuantumWhy don't you try the cap board?
I mean..if you want to be Plutonian that's fine.
But then you also are required to hang out on the Scorpio board and be pelted with foolish questions about intensity and testing and rebirth and prostate massages with the rest of us...
"Why are you all so cold?"
"You only care about money, don't ya?"
"Why are y'all so boring?"
We do get questions about testing, as well, but less about prostate massages. 😛
"Why are all of you dirty whores"
"Why does everyone want to murder you"
Hmmm
Why do you guys assume we care?
You know even if we do care, its gonna be for a minute or two :-p
And definitely not the most mind-numbing.
Just kill me already 😭click to expand
Posted by InstantkarmaIdk. It has its advantages, like all the other planets, but the disadvantages of pluto are pretty nasty, so idk. I've got the feeling I will die without having resolved even half of my pluto issues.Posted by HappyCapperSmh
Below are quotes from people considering themselves to be Plutonian. Do you agree?
“I consider myself to be plutonian by nature Sun in the 2 nd decan of Cancer ruled by Scorpio, Moon in Aries (mars the lower octave of Pluto) with Uranus & Pluto natal in the 8th house.”
“I have pluto square venus and mars semisextile pluto.”
”I have a Scorpio ascendant and Pluto in Scorpio.”
”Scorpio eros/psyche” and ” cancer mars trine Pluto”
”Sun in Aquarius in the 8th house and Uranus conjunct the North Node (and Part of Fortune) in Scorpio.”
“Pluto is conjunct Merc, separated by a degree. My Sun is at Lib on 29th degree”
”My Pluto is in the 10th and it sextiles a Moon/Lilith conjunction in the 8th, and trines my water mercury.”
Why is it that you never(at least me) hear people with their Lilith conj Moon in the 11th house, sextile Uranus, and with their merc trine Uranus, claim they are so incredibly Uranian?
This is something I read in an article on the subject – thought it was funny…although I’m pretty sure it wasn’t meant to be:
”If you don't have Pluto on your ascendant, pluto is not as intense, and you are not what would be considered a classical plutonian person. You can still be nasty to others.”
Why would anyone want to be Plutonic?click to expand
Posted by EllycakesLOLPosted by InstantkarmaCause the idiots think this shit is 'sexy' lol.Posted by HappyCapperSmh
Below are quotes from people considering themselves to be Plutonian. Do you agree?
“I consider myself to be plutonian by nature Sun in the 2 nd decan of Cancer ruled by Scorpio, Moon in Aries (mars the lower octave of Pluto) with Uranus & Pluto natal in the 8th house.”
“I have pluto square venus and mars semisextile pluto.”
”I have a Scorpio ascendant and Pluto in Scorpio.”
”Scorpio eros/psyche” and ” cancer mars trine Pluto”
”Sun in Aquarius in the 8th house and Uranus conjunct the North Node (and Part of Fortune) in Scorpio.”
“Pluto is conjunct Merc, separated by a degree. My Sun is at Lib on 29th degree”
”My Pluto is in the 10th and it sextiles a Moon/Lilith conjunction in the 8th, and trines my water mercury.”
Why is it that you never(at least me) hear people with their Lilith conj Moon in the 11th house, sextile Uranus, and with their merc trine Uranus, claim they are so incredibly Uranian?
This is something I read in an article on the subject – thought it was funny…although I’m pretty sure it wasn’t meant to be:
”If you don't have Pluto on your ascendant, pluto is not as intense, and you are not what would be considered a classical plutonian person. You can still be nasty to others.”
Why would anyone want to be Plutonic?
It's all fun and games till you run out of space to bury bodies in the backyard. 😢click to expand
Posted by SassyKiwiInteresting. Thank you!🙂
Plutonians are those who have
- Pluto as their chart ruler
- 8th house stellium
- Personal planets with hard aspects to Pluto
- Pluto in the 1st house
- Scorpio stellium
No weak sextile or trine shit
Also there's nothing special about them and their lives aren't extraordinarily full of hardships or mystery
Could you direct to the scouce(es) of that? I'd love to read it!
Posted by RumiLIf you dance around in the dark for long enough, the darkness might start to rub off.🙂Posted by nevesOmg the way you explain stuff...neves!!!!! 😄
And that's Pluto's domain, be it ones death or the death of a close one... since - the intense pain one could feel at those times (while feeling so powerless) - can have a transformative effect on oneself. Also, when it comes to one's death... that's not necessarily a referral to the actual death (that too will come), it's also about ones ego. This might be more apparent for those who have Pluto aspecting their Sun or the ASC. Might be true that change can be beneficial for everyone, but Pluto can act like a painful reminder for those with Pluto aspecting the Sun or the ASC. And though that intense pain - it forces them to shed their older self (the part that's not helpful to them anymore) - so that they can revive as someone else - someone stronger. Kinda like a Scorpio shedding its skin (that process of revival - that's linked to Pluto and the 8'th house or so called mature Scorpios):
So insightful.
I guess I'm lucky Pluto doesn't make any aspects other than aspects with outer planets. It's in conjunction with my true node though! 😢 ...any opinion on that?
I've had bad experiences though, yes, ones where I wanted to die. Or rather I felt i was brutally kept alive. But I think Scorpionic effect goes like this -- it burns you to your core, burns everything inside(painful and time and energy consuming process) and then...you start realising how valuable the experience and the lessons are...and then, if you have a happy aspect like moon-Jupiter-NN conjunction, you will come out happy and grateful for just having gone through it and standing a new human. And that gratitude is so much so that you cannot help but be happy for every single breathe you were allowed to take so far 🙂 One surrenders to everything and realises he is just nothingness and starts seeing beauty everywhere.
The end result is...such experiences makes one go like - "I'm blessed as long as I breathe" .
It doesn't make one dark. It makes one dance in darkness. IMO. :pclick to expand
Posted by NevermoreMight possibly? What does Pullen say?
I might possibly have the Second Pluto dominant. After Saturn. 😐
Posted by cheekyfaeriePost it!🙂Posted by HappyCapperEh. It makes sense when you see my chart.Posted by cheekyfaerieLOL Not confusing at all.😄
Ha. My Pluto edges out my Saturn, but I still get mistaken for a Fire sign. 😆click to expand
Posted by HappyCapperI am not sure how exactly Pullen calculates it.Posted by PlaguedThis is interesting. Would you care to elaborate on the bold text? In what way do you feel Pullen is wrong? And also, what features in your chart, makes you plutonian, in your opinion?
Haha well pullen calculates based off of a few things aspects etc. So to say "if pluto isn't in your top you aren't plutonian" is a tad bit silly in a sense.
At least for me it wouldn't be plausible to dismiss plutonian influence. Wherever that sag is coming from I don't feel it.
Based off positions and aspects
1) venus = 71.5
2) sun = 70.2
3) mercury = 68.4
4) pluto = 59.8
Signs power and ranking
1) Libra = 123.4
2) Scorpio = 83.3
3) Leo = 63.3
4) sagittarius = 53.6
Sorry guys ima jump on the pluto bandwagon cause I can.click to expand
My order-
Leo/Scorp/Aqua
Mercury/Sun/Pluto
Uranus is 4th, Saturn is 9th-
I think it's mainly due to ascendants.
Posted by HappyCapperLol I was being sarcastic. My Sun is in Gemini. ‚Posted by WateryGemCan't say that I do, tbh. There are so many misconceptions of Gemini, imo, that it actually irritates me to read some of the posts there. I am very seldom on the Gemini board nowadays...but not because of the Geminis.Posted by HappyCapperThe Gem board is extremely insightful!! I always leave it feeling like an enlightened being. 🙌Posted by tizianiAgreed. It's pretty bad.Posted by QuantumSeriously it's got to be the most mind-numbing for them. I wouldn't trade places with them on any astro forum right now.Posted by HappyCapperYeah pretty much all signs have to put up with crap like that. Geminis have it the worst.Posted by QuantumWhy don't you try the cap board?
I mean..if you want to be Plutonian that's fine.
But then you also are required to hang out on the Scorpio board and be pelted with foolish questions about intensity and testing and rebirth and prostate massages with the rest of us...
"Why are you all so cold?"
"You only care about money, don't ya?"
"Why are y'all so boring?"
We do get questions about testing, as well, but less about prostate massages. 😛
"Why are all of you dirty whores"
"Why does everyone want to murder you"click to expand
In Pullen:
Pluto: 58.5 ( 2) + 36.0 ( 2) = 94.5 ( 1) / 13.5%
Sun: 50.0 ( 3) + 28.5 ( 4) = 78.5 ( 2) / 11.2%
Uranus: 65.0 ( 1) + 9.8 ( 9) = 74.8 ( 3) / 10.7
Saturn: 50.0 ( 4) + 19.0 ( 5) = 69.0 ( 4) / 9.8
Capricorn: 121.7 ( 1) / 17.4%
Aquarius: 108.2 ( 2) / 15.4%
Pisces: 96.1 ( 3) / 13.7%
Scorpio: 81.3 ( 4) / 11.6%
I have Pluto aspecting my four angles and 2 luminaries.
But I have a strong 10th House and 3 planets (Venus, Mars, Neptune) are in Cap, so I am Capricornian- Plutonian
Pluto: 58.5 ( 2) + 36.0 ( 2) = 94.5 ( 1) / 13.5%
Sun: 50.0 ( 3) + 28.5 ( 4) = 78.5 ( 2) / 11.2%
Uranus: 65.0 ( 1) + 9.8 ( 9) = 74.8 ( 3) / 10.7
Saturn: 50.0 ( 4) + 19.0 ( 5) = 69.0 ( 4) / 9.8
Capricorn: 121.7 ( 1) / 17.4%
Aquarius: 108.2 ( 2) / 15.4%
Pisces: 96.1 ( 3) / 13.7%
Scorpio: 81.3 ( 4) / 11.6%
I have Pluto aspecting my four angles and 2 luminaries.
But I have a strong 10th House and 3 planets (Venus, Mars, Neptune) are in Cap, so I am Capricornian- Plutonian
Posted by SkittyAh. Thank you.🙂 May I ask, what did you mean by "I think it's mainly due to ascendants."Posted by HappyCapperI am not sure how exactly Pullen calculates it.Posted by PlaguedThis is interesting. Would you care to elaborate on the bold text? In what way do you feel Pullen is wrong? And also, what features in your chart, makes you plutonian, in your opinion?
Haha well pullen calculates based off of a few things aspects etc. So to say "if pluto isn't in your top you aren't plutonian" is a tad bit silly in a sense.
At least for me it wouldn't be plausible to dismiss plutonian influence. Wherever that sag is coming from I don't feel it.
Based off positions and aspects
1) venus = 71.5
2) sun = 70.2
3) mercury = 68.4
4) pluto = 59.8
Signs power and ranking
1) Libra = 123.4
2) Scorpio = 83.3
3) Leo = 63.3
4) sagittarius = 53.6
Sorry guys ima jump on the pluto bandwagon cause I can.
My order-
Leo/Scorp/Aqua
Mercury/Sun/Pluto
Uranus is 4th, Saturn is 9th-
I think it's mainly due to ascendants.
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Posted by NevermoreAh.🙂 Same top three as me(not in that order, but...)! Do you feel plutonian?Posted by HappyCapperI still need to go to the government to get the birth certificate.. but.. so far I felt more compatible with this chart I have now.Posted by NevermoreMight possibly? What does Pullen say?
I might possibly have the Second Pluto dominant. After Saturn. 😐
Here's pullen chart:
Planet: Position Aspects Total Rank Percent
Saturn: 72.0 ( 1) + 11.7 ( 9) = 83.7 ( 1) / 12.9%
Pluto: 45.0 ( 4) + 32.0 ( 1) = 77.0 ( 2) / 11.9%
Moon: 62.0 ( 2) + 13.0 ( 8) = 75.0 ( 3) / 11.6%click to expand
Posted by cheekyfaerieOh, I'm not surprised by the plutonian/saturnian stuff. I was merely wondering why you would be mistaken for a fire sign. Aren't you a scorpio rising? Is your pluto in a fire house?Posted by HappyCapperHa. It's really not that interesting. Just saying when you see all my Scorpio and Pluto, with their aspects, it's not hard to see why I have more Pluto than Saturn. Likewise my Sag in Neptune in the First explains the Fire.Posted by cheekyfaeriePost it!🙂Posted by HappyCapperEh. It makes sense when you see my chart.Posted by cheekyfaerieLOL Not confusing at all.😄
Ha. My Pluto edges out my Saturn, but I still get mistaken for a Fire sign. 😆click to expand
Posted by WateryGemYeah, I know. I just turned it back into drab seriousness - you know, the main characteristic of capricorn women.😉Posted by HappyCapperLol I was being sarcastic. My Sun is in Gemini. ‚Posted by WateryGemCan't say that I do, tbh. There are so many misconceptions of Gemini, imo, that it actually irritates me to read some of the posts there. I am very seldom on the Gemini board nowadays...but not because of the Geminis.Posted by HappyCapperThe Gem board is extremely insightful!! I always leave it feeling like an enlightened being. 🙌Posted by tizianiAgreed. It's pretty bad.Posted by QuantumSeriously it's got to be the most mind-numbing for them. I wouldn't trade places with them on any astro forum right now.Posted by HappyCapperYeah pretty much all signs have to put up with crap like that. Geminis have it the worst.Posted by QuantumWhy don't you try the cap board?
I mean..if you want to be Plutonian that's fine.
But then you also are required to hang out on the Scorpio board and be pelted with foolish questions about intensity and testing and rebirth and prostate massages with the rest of us...
"Why are you all so cold?"
"You only care about money, don't ya?"
"Why are y'all so boring?"
We do get questions about testing, as well, but less about prostate massages. 😛
"Why are all of you dirty whores"
"Why does everyone want to murder you"click to expand
Posted by fallendarkangelThat is a beautiful combo! (...or in other words: me too😏)
In Pullen:
Pluto: 58.5 ( 2) + 36.0 ( 2) = 94.5 ( 1) / 13.5%
Sun: 50.0 ( 3) + 28.5 ( 4) = 78.5 ( 2) / 11.2%
Uranus: 65.0 ( 1) + 9.8 ( 9) = 74.8 ( 3) / 10.7
Saturn: 50.0 ( 4) + 19.0 ( 5) = 69.0 ( 4) / 9.8
Capricorn: 121.7 ( 1) / 17.4%
Aquarius: 108.2 ( 2) / 15.4%
Pisces: 96.1 ( 3) / 13.7%
Scorpio: 81.3 ( 4) / 11.6%
I have Pluto aspecting my four angles and 2 luminaries.
But I have a strong 10th House and 3 planets (Venus, Mars, Neptune) are in Cap, so I am Capricornian- Plutonian
Posted by NevermoreOh. In what do you feel Saturn over dominates your life? Is that how you feel or is it sheer numbers?Posted by HappyCapperSun in 8th house, exact opposite pluto in 2dn house (-0'31).Posted by NevermoreAh.🙂 Same top three as me(not in that order, but...)! Do you feel plutonian?Posted by HappyCapperI still need to go to the government to get the birth certificate.. but.. so far I felt more compatible with this chart I have now.Posted by NevermoreMight possibly? What does Pullen say?
I might possibly have the Second Pluto dominant. After Saturn. 😐
Here's pullen chart:
Planet: Position Aspects Total Rank Percent
Saturn: 72.0 ( 1) + 11.7 ( 9) = 83.7 ( 1) / 12.9%
Pluto: 45.0 ( 4) + 32.0 ( 1) = 77.0 ( 2) / 11.9%
Moon: 62.0 ( 2) + 13.0 ( 8) = 75.0 ( 3) / 11.6%
Mars trine Pluto by -1'51 orb away.
I do feel Plutonian, but Saturnian over dominates my life.click to expand
Posted by NevermoreOh, that. 🙂Posted by HappyCapperPosted by NevermoreOh. In what do you feel Saturn over dominates your life? Is that how you feel or is it sheer numbers?Posted by HappyCapperSun in 8th house, exact opposite pluto in 2dn house (-0'31).Posted by NevermoreAh.🙂 Same top three as me(not in that order, but...)! Do you feel plutonian?Posted by HappyCapperI still need to go to the government to get the birth certificate.. but.. so far I felt more compatible with this chart I have now.Posted by NevermoreMight possibly? What does Pullen say?
I might possibly have the Second Pluto dominant. After Saturn. 😐
Here's pullen chart:
Planet: Position Aspects Total Rank Percent
Saturn: 72.0 ( 1) + 11.7 ( 9) = 83.7 ( 1) / 12.9%
Pluto: 45.0 ( 4) + 32.0 ( 1) = 77.0 ( 2) / 11.9%
Moon: 62.0 ( 2) + 13.0 ( 8) = 75.0 ( 3) / 11.6%
Mars trine Pluto by -1'51 orb away.
I do feel Plutonian, but Saturnian over dominates my life.
Karma.click to expand
May I ask, as I also have my sun in the 8th with a hard aspect to pluto. How do you think your sun sign shows itself? For me, I think it's like Rabbit says, that everything filters through the sun sign. So for me it's like my sun is the kernel inside, wrapped by the 8th and then bombarded with some more pluto crap. How does it show in your case?
Posted by GetMistedAgreed. May I ask, how do you define being plutonian? Top three Pullen, or something else?
Sun: 72.5 ( 1) + 14.6 ( 6) = 87.1 ( 2) / 14.3%
Pluto: 60.0 ( 2) + 29.6 ( 1) = 89.6 ( 1) / 14.8%
Scorpio: 155.6 ( 1) / 25.6% - Fixed: 326.8 / 53.8%
^^Plutonian
Posted by HappyCapperHey, now that's my rising! Lol I totally get it. 😋 got to maintain the serious topic at hand.Posted by WateryGemYeah, I know. I just turned it back into drab seriousness - you know, the main characteristic of capricorn women.😉Posted by HappyCapperLol I was being sarcastic. My Sun is in Gemini. ‚Posted by WateryGemCan't say that I do, tbh. There are so many misconceptions of Gemini, imo, that it actually irritates me to read some of the posts there. I am very seldom on the Gemini board nowadays...but not because of the Geminis.Posted by HappyCapperThe Gem board is extremely insightful!! I always leave it feeling like an enlightened being. 🙌Posted by tizianiAgreed. It's pretty bad.Posted by QuantumSeriously it's got to be the most mind-numbing for them. I wouldn't trade places with them on any astro forum right now.Posted by HappyCapperYeah pretty much all signs have to put up with crap like that. Geminis have it the worst.Posted by QuantumWhy don't you try the cap board?
I mean..if you want to be Plutonian that's fine.
But then you also are required to hang out on the Scorpio board and be pelted with foolish questions about intensity and testing and rebirth and prostate massages with the rest of us...
"Why are you all so cold?"
"You only care about money, don't ya?"
"Why are y'all so boring?"
We do get questions about testing, as well, but less about prostate massages. 😛
"Why are all of you dirty whores"
"Why does everyone want to murder you"click to expand
Posted by WateryGemSerious, drab and dull is what life is all abou...HEY, now Gemini is my rising! You're my inverted twin!😄Posted by HappyCapperHey, now that's my rising! Lol I totally get it. 😋 got to maintain the serious topic at hand.Posted by WateryGemYeah, I know. I just turned it back into drab seriousness - you know, the main characteristic of capricorn women.😉Posted by HappyCapperLol I was being sarcastic. My Sun is in Gemini. ‚Posted by WateryGemCan't say that I do, tbh. There are so many misconceptions of Gemini, imo, that it actually irritates me to read some of the posts there. I am very seldom on the Gemini board nowadays...but not because of the Geminis.Posted by HappyCapperThe Gem board is extremely insightful!! I always leave it feeling like an enlightened being. 🙌Posted by tizianiAgreed. It's pretty bad.Posted by QuantumSeriously it's got to be the most mind-numbing for them. I wouldn't trade places with them on any astro forum right now.Posted by HappyCapperYeah pretty much all signs have to put up with crap like that. Geminis have it the worst.Posted by QuantumWhy don't you try the cap board?
I mean..if you want to be Plutonian that's fine.
But then you also are required to hang out on the Scorpio board and be pelted with foolish questions about intensity and testing and rebirth and prostate massages with the rest of us...
"Why are you all so cold?"
"You only care about money, don't ya?"
"Why are y'all so boring?"
We do get questions about testing, as well, but less about prostate massages. 😛
"Why are all of you dirty whores"
"Why does everyone want to murder you"
click to expand
Posted by NevermoreHmm. Hope one of them answers your call, cause I sure want to read that description!🙂
@happycarper
@Neves gives me a great description about this...
but somehow @Umisays hides that thread. 😐 And I'm no longer able to reached that beautiful description he wrote!
Posted by ElleDuMondeDo you believe it's accurate? Do you have other theories? They seem to have changed the scores, which is good, imo. Before, people were supposed to be "off the charts" plutonian with 40+ points. Haven't checked if the test is also different, though. Thanks for your input!🙂
here is a test
https://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-heres-the-score/
Posted by ElleDuMondeReally? Your scorpio sun should give you a gazilion points, imo.
I only have 26 points. I'm not very plutonian.
Posted by ElleDuMondeSo do I, in general and I also agree that people try really hard to read into plutonian(if I understand you correctly). I just got a tad suspicious at the weird rates of that test before they changed it, so now I take what they say whith a tad larger pinch of salt, that's all. I just wish there was a clear definition that all could just agree with and be done with it, so that some of the examples in OP would be eliminated from my sight in the future.🙂
I like the skywriter site in general....so, I think it's as valid as anything else.
Pullen was created by a scorpio....so, there's that. 😛
I think people try too hard to read into 'plutonian'.....I mean, my chart is super duper venus heavy...so much so that I should be this venusian goddess....and I'm not. lol
Posted by ElleDuMondeAh.🙂Posted by HappyCappervenus and neptune trumps everything because of my stelliumPosted by ElleDuMondeReally? Your scorpio sun should give you a gazilion points, imo.
I only have 26 points. I'm not very plutonian.click to expand
Posted by ElleDuMondeWhat!?! Were we supposed to add asteroid placements? Nooooo!😭
lol....that cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!
Posted by ElleDuMondePluto aspects and 8th house crap?
lol....the cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!
Posted by ElleDuMondeOfc. Don't know what I was thinking.lolPosted by HappyCapperno!Posted by ElleDuMondeWhat!?! Were we supposed to add asteroid placements? Nooooo!😭
lol....that cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!
I was just saying....he scored 49 points on the skywriter test and he doesn't have anything "scopio" in his chart at all (not even asteroids)......
his points came from his moon in his 8th house and a bunch of hard pluto aspects to other planets.click to expand
Just weird to me that a sun and/or moon in scorpio doesn't give more points...especially sun, imo. I mean, after a quick count, I got 68 points(and that's without asteroids!!!😉) and you get, like, a third of that, being a scorpio sun. I don't get it.
Posted by ElleDuMondeLOL
he is so grumpy sometimes....lol.
I laugh in the face of grumpmeister!
Posted by ElleDuMondeMaybe that should be the criteria? lol Finally a definition that makes sense!😉
pluto people are funneh.
Posted by ElleDuMonde50 here, with no planets in Scorpio or 8'th House. 😛
lol....the cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!
Posted by nevesWoW! So 50 points from just pluto aspects?Posted by ElleDuMonde50 here, with no planets in Scorpio or 8'th House. 😛
lol....the cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!click to expand
Nevermore said you had a really good description of sun that is in the 8th house and with a hard aspect to pluto. Do you remember what that was, by any chance?
Posted by HappyCapperYeah, just from Pluto aspects.Posted by nevesWoW! So 50 points from just pluto aspects?Posted by ElleDuMonde50 here, with no planets in Scorpio or 8'th House. 😛
lol....the cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!
Nevermore said you had a really good description of sun that is in the 8th house and with a hard aspect to pluto. Do you remember what that was, by any chance?click to expand
I think she's referring to an interpretation for the Opposition between Pluto in 2nd House/Scorpio and Sun in 8'th house/Taurus. I remember doing that, but was a thing of the moment - an intuitive inspiration based on those placements. Then again... it all started with her choice in avatars (all those skeletons). Those choices seemed very Plutonic/8'th house to me. ^^
Posted by ElleDuMondeBased on Pullen - Scorpio is one of my weakest signs. Position 10'th. 🙂Posted by nevesI will need to turn in my scorpio card soon 😄Posted by ElleDuMonde50 here, with no planets in Scorpio or 8'th House. 😛
lol....the cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!click to expand
Gah! That test couldn't be made multiple choice? I have to grab paper and pen and actually do some work? ‚
I scored 48
I scored 48
I looked at my pullen and I hate number crunching, so to expedite the process, I bring you.. color horoscope!
I ranked 3 but mine are mostly even so whatev.
I ranked 3 but mine are mostly even so whatev.
That color horoscope seems highly inaccurate. IMO.
Posted by ElleDuMondeSorry... *blushes*Posted by HappyCappercheese and rise and four hail marys.....68??!!!!Posted by ElleDuMondeOfc. Don't know what I was thinking.lolPosted by HappyCapperno!Posted by ElleDuMondeWhat!?! Were we supposed to add asteroid placements? Nooooo!😭
lol....that cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!
I was just saying....he scored 49 points on the skywriter test and he doesn't have anything "scopio" in his chart at all (not even asteroids)......
his points came from his moon in his 8th house and a bunch of hard pluto aspects to other planets.
Just weird to me that a sun and/or moon in scorpio doesn't give more points...especially sun, imo. I mean, after a quick count, I got 68 points(and that's without asteroids!!!😉) and you get, like, a third of that, being a scorpio sun. I don't get it.click to expand
Posted by nevesThat's a lot!Posted by HappyCapperYeah, just from Pluto aspects.Posted by nevesWoW! So 50 points from just pluto aspects?Posted by ElleDuMonde50 here, with no planets in Scorpio or 8'th House. 😛
lol....the cap scored 49 and doesn't have a single placement in scorpio....even asteroids!
Nevermore said you had a really good description of sun that is in the 8th house and with a hard aspect to pluto. Do you remember what that was, by any chance?
I think she's referring to an interpretation for the Opposition between Pluto in 2nd House/Scorpio and Sun in 8'th house/Taurus. I remember doing that, but was a thing of the moment - an intuitive inspiration based on those placements. Then again... it all started with her choice in avatars (all those skeletons). Those choices seemed very Plutonic/8'th house to me. ^^click to expand
Ah, okay, I see. Well, you do tend to explain things very well, so I'm sure it was a good one. Do know a link, or two, on that topic, that I could read?
Posted by everlynnGood question. It seems we all have different definitions, though. I do seem to remember a moon square pluto aspect as well, in your chart. And there may be more. Idk. Not that I see why you would necessarily want to "join the pluto thing", but, the first thing I would do if I were you is to check your Pullen rankings on astro.com - Extended Chart Selection - Pullen/Astrolog - simple chart delineation by Walter Pullen for info. Good luck!🙂.Posted by HappyCapperWhat if you have Pluto conjunct the ascendant? Would I be considered plutonian? I like to join this Pluto thing too.
Below are quotes from people considering themselves to be Plutonian. Do you agree?
“I consider myself to be plutonian by nature Sun in the 2 nd decan of Cancer ruled by Scorpio, Moon in Aries (mars the lower octave of Pluto) with Uranus & Pluto natal in the 8th house.”
“I have pluto square venus and mars semisextile pluto.”
”I have a Scorpio ascendant and Pluto in Scorpio.”
”Scorpio eros/psyche” and ” cancer mars trine Pluto”
”Sun in Aquarius in the 8th house and Uranus conjunct the North Node (and Part of Fortune) in Scorpio.”
“Pluto is conjunct Merc, separated by a degree. My Sun is at Lib on 29th degree”
”My Pluto is in the 10th and it sextiles a Moon/Lilith conjunction in the 8th, and trines my water mercury.”
Why is it that you never(at least me) hear people with their Lilith conj Moon in the 11th house, sextile Uranus, and with their merc trine Uranus, claim they are so incredibly Uranian?
This is something I read in an article on the subject – thought it was funny…although I’m pretty sure it wasn’t meant to be:
”If you don't have Pluto on your ascendant, pluto is not as intense, and you are not what would be considered a classical plutonian person. You can still be nasty to others.”click to expand
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I guess I'm lucky Pluto doesn't make any aspects other than aspects with outer planets. It's in conjunction with my true node though! 😢 ...any opinion on that?
I've had bad experiences though, yes, ones where I wanted to die. Or rather I felt i was brutally kept alive. But I think Scorpionic effect goes like this -- it burns you to your core, burns everything inside(painful and time and energy consuming process) and then...you start realising how valuable the experience and the lessons are...and then, if you have a happy aspect like moon-Jupiter-NN conjunction, you will come out happy and grateful for just having gone through it and standing a new human. And that gratitude is so much so that you cannot help but be happy for every single breathe you were allowed to take so far 🙂 One surrenders to everything and realises he is just nothingness and starts seeing beauty everywhere.
The end result is...such experiences makes one go like - "I'm blessed as long as I breathe" .
It doesn't make one dark. It makes one dance in darkness. IMO. :p