Sick of feeling he doesn't care about me.. (Page 2)

Posted by TypicalScorpio

I just think..if you care about someone and they tell you your words hurt them you would want to do whatever you can to stop that.

People are so .... I don't even know what the right word is ... to say confused isn't it.

In your quote above you are insuating that he is suppose to be nice to you because a person who cares is suppose to do that .... without any real awareness that you are trying to apply a concept of care to a person who doesn't care .. and then can't understand why it isn't working out how you expect it to.

Do you realize that you said, "if" ? If a person cares, doesn't mean THAT a person cares. People can't quite wrap the reality of life around their deluded head? Confused head? Whatever that word is I'm looking for.

He tells you he doesnt' care .... then you completely bypass the reality of it because you dont' want to realize the reality of it ... and say the above, as if to suggest that because it's a rational theory, then you expect it to be applicable to him, based on no value except what you want.


Because you care about him .. you will say the above, with no awareness that it doesn't apply to him because he doesnt' care, and you will expect him to act as if he does.


You really don't get that, do you? You think that since you care, that he is suppose to .... and I'm quite certain that you will continue with feeling the quote above and will not understand why he isn't caring enough to want to make you happy.


I feel sorry for mankind ..... 99% of people really don't "get" the reality of life.

P were you fall short is yes he's being up front about not caring, I don't think that's the prime issue here, it's when he's being passionate and kind towards her that keeps her off balance. This happens with many women where she's with a guy whose only nice when it serves him to be nice and mean when he's just not that into the woman which includes him alienating her from his life and doesn't really want her around until it serves him in some way to have her there, it's not the go away part most women listen to it's the come here part that keeps a woman caught up in this come here go away type of dynamic with a man.

It's not so black and white when men give mixed messages, when they laugh and joke but she's the brunt of the joke and he smiles in her face and yet says the cruelest of words that hurt and diminish and devalue her worth, when they kiss and hug and have passionate sex and then consciously pushes her away for no other reason outside of "he can", when they let you meet family but not meet his closest of friends and makes excuses for it or nonchalantly says I don't care you can come, shrugs his shoulders but everything about it says I do care don't come, he includes her in his future but won't include her in his life right now "today", when he says I love you but treats her with hate, discontent, resentment, says I love you but disappears for days or weeks or months which are just a few examples that keep women holding on hoping for change, or hoping he isn't serious or not even know when he's being serious or playing around, all that passive aggressive behavior keep a woman wound up inside and unable to assess properly what's going on, what's real, what's not real and combine this behavior with a woman that lacks self esteem and confidence well it can be very disastrous on a mental, emotional and sometimes physical level for that kind of woman.

If you go back and read her statements, he's sending her mixed messages, yes he says I don't care but there are times when he act like he does care about her and wants her around and that is what creates this inner conflict for her. Do I leave him because he doesn't want me around right now but wait what if he wants me around later, what if he changes his mind like he always does after he's had some time alone then I won't be with him anymore and I want to keep him in my life, I'll stay and hope it changes soon. Many women go through this up and down yo yo ride. It's not necessarily all his fault

It's not always about what he's saying right then and there, it's more about what he says before when there was no immediate conflict and what he says after when he doesn't want to be bothered with her b/c it doesn't serve him in some way or make him feel comfortable, when his commitment level is pushed he's pushing her away but as long as she's okay with going along and doing things his way she's accepted and given a certain level of validation...That's confusing to a 21 year old young woman.

i dont see what nitpicking at the innards of the situation accomplishes,the need-to solution is still the same-end the relationship, and use this experience as a lesson when you find someone else who is right for you.

I agree westside but P does that, she attacks all the people in the thread instead of just stating what she has to say directly the OP b/c she loves to fight with everyone and make it all about her or why else would she go on the defense and attack people who are not addressing her directly....She's behaves like an emotional vampire, sucks all the energy out of thread if she can b/c that's how she attempts to control everyone in the thread....she's a trip, I don't care to go back and forth with her so yeah I'm done with it, I can use my energy elsewhere were it will be appreciated and not sucked to death.

🙂 Oceandeep and Grinch....

He is an asshole. Just because she tolerates and puts up with his bad behavior does not mean that she's asking for it. People are human, it is HARD to let go of something that you thought meant a lot to you, someone that you thought you'd have a great relationship with. It's not easy, it's hard. But the fact that this man takes ADVANTAGE of her vulnerability is a character flaw on his part, not hers. I'm sure TS is capable of taking responsibility for her part on her in this situation on her own so quit hounding her. It's counterproductive.

It's like the quote that says, "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."

Enough said.

Posted by PixieDust
He is an asshole. Just because she tolerates and puts up with his bad behavior does not mean that she's asking for it. People are human, it is HARD to let go of something that you thought meant a lot to you, someone that you thought you'd have a great relationship with. It's not easy, it's hard. But the fact that this man takes ADVANTAGE of her vulnerability is a character flaw on his part, not hers. I'm sure TS is capable of taking responsibility for her part on her in this situation on her own so quit hounding her. It's counterproductive.

It's like the quote that says, "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."

Enough said.

+1

Only people that I know that believe a person deserves bad treatment for loving a person or is asking for bad treatment is sociopaths and high functioning narcissist, typically these aliens take advantage of a persons vulnerabilities and attempt to make others believe it's the victims fault or the person being harshly punished, abused, misused fault for misinterpreting the relationship, variables of why a person is being mistreated never comes into play....emotions, feelings, behavior rarely come into the equation.

I've had enough experience with these maniacs to know not to fall for the it's her fault, she's not a victim bullshit...

Posted by grinch33344

Posted by westside
i dont see what nitpicking at the innards of the situation accomplishes,the need-to solution is still the same-end the relationship, and use this experience as a lesson when you find someone else who is right for you.

Lol, your response is so typical Gemini! 😛 Please don't take offense for that statement, it's just that that's the type of answer that I get everytime I ask for a suggestion from a Gemini..

Sorry westside but we are doing it Cancer style here...

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I'm a gemini. Is my response typical gemini?

And Tiki, I agree wit you 10,000% on that one. That's like saying a rape victim isn't a victim because they were wearing something trashy and revealing, she must have been asking for it, right? I'm Sorry, but that just doesn't cut it for me.

Grinch, I didn't ask that to be snotty. I was just curious, relax. Most people are shocked when I tell them I'm a gemini.

Posted by grinch33344
😄 Yeah, I find this part of your answer "People are human, it is HARD to let go of something that you thought meant a lot to you, someone that you thought you'd have a great relationship with. It's not easy, it's hard." a little odd coming from a Gemini. So I sort of meant it when I said 'no'...

Do you have any water somewhere in your chart? Or earth by any chance?

My chart is full of earth and water. I have 3 capricorns and 2 tauruses. I have 1 cancer, 1 scorpio, and 1 pisces.

I'm a little confused because some website birth charts say that my moon is in taurus, others say it's in gemini. I'm not entirely sure about that aspect but besides all the earth and water I have one aries in my chart and that is it.

Posted by QuietSt0rm
I think i just fell in love with tiki all over again lol (no homo)

LOL@QS

I don't know what I did to cause that but I'll try to keep doing it...

LOL@QS

It's weird how I'm making up with scorps and getting along with scorp women not sure why but I'm going with it...

We all have matured and I've been very conscious about how I come across and I believe my delivery is much softer than it used to be so maybe this side of me will annoy people less and less lol.

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Posted by PixieDust

Posted by grinch33344
😄 Yeah, I find this part of your answer "People are human, it is HARD to let go of something that you thought meant a lot to you, someone that you thought you'd have a great relationship with. It's not easy, it's hard." a little odd coming from a Gemini. So I sort of meant it when I said 'no'...

Do you have any water somewhere in your chart? Or earth by any chance?

My chart is full of earth and water. I have 3 capricorns and 2 tauruses. I have 1 cancer, 1 scorpio, and 1 pisces.

I'm a little confused because some website birth charts say that my moon is in taurus, others say it's in gemini. I'm not entirely sure about that aspect but besides all the earth and water I have one aries in my chart and that is it.

Oh no wonder, that explains it. An earthy Gem, sounds cool 😉

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I was also born on the taurus/gemini cusp! 😉

Men are not puppy dogs who wag our tails every time we see you.
( My girlfriend once showed up to "surprise me" at work and was
very upset that I stared blankly at her, then turned arounf and
ignored her when she walked in to my office when I was on the phone
with a client. ( Years ago )

Sometimes some people do need to get into a different MODE when
they arrive home - and almost like a personality change, they
change gears to become the "home person" you are used to.

Maybe you are right that your use of a wheelchair is a concern to him.
Obviously, you are a very pretty girl so - at least we know he's not
ashamed of your looks. lol Perhaps he would feel that OTHERS would feel
that HE was a loser who could not "do better" but that is entirely in
his own mind - it is not your problem to deal with or care about.
THE WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE IS IF HE HAS OR WOULD TAKE YOU OUT ON A DATE.

But most likely, he is just a self-absorbed person who is taking
from you what he can get, without giving back anything in return.


Your fear is not that he would feel DESPERATE if he told his friends
that he's banging "a girl in a wheelchair" - your fear is that you
have become so desperate that you'd put up with an arse like that.




My advice is:

If you enjoy his company after the first half hour
then ignore him when he arrives until after the first half hour
and then take from him the affection that you want.

But the very next time he calls asking to come over say:
"No...it's not a good time"

I agree...Cut loose the dead weight

she's beautiful, she can do much better

Posted by QuietSt0rm
When a relationship is doing more harm than good I don't see the point in trying to "one up" the other person at some petty game. There's no solution in that.

Nobody's winning when everyone's losing...

TS, i think all you have to do is refer to the title of your post. you wrote, 'sick of feeling he doesn't care about me...'
not 'he doesn't care about me'...etc. if that's how you feel, you should honour yourself and your emotions and decide what's best for you.

just from reading your posts, he sounds like an angry and insecure person. you're probably too good to him and this makes him guilty, hence the behaviour.

Posted by grinch33344

Well, he did tell her that he did not care if she was with him or not. But he keeps her as his girlfriend, does he not?

That's why he is an asshole. If he is a nice and dandy gentleman, he would have broken up with her and be done with it. For me OP's inability to move on from him is excusable for being very emotionally involved in the situation, hence why I symphatize with her. What is his excuse for treating her like that?

His excuse is her approval of it.


Still, all of you are enabling her to not have any responsibility in her own choices ... you would ask why does he keep her, as if she is property.

Her fate is in his hands, according to your theory .... if he didn't want her he would break up with her, and since he doesn't then it's his choice to keep her ... therefore, he should act right and treat her right ....... in saying that, it implies that she has no choice in this, and it's all up to him.


:::: shakes head ::::


All of you must surely wish to suffer, and I'm sure you do choose to .... for all of you are suggesting that because he doesn't break up with her, then he's at fault that she's unhappy ... when in reality, she has always had the option to do what is best for her.


like all of you ... she chooses to leave her fate in his hands, and then cries because she doesn't like the way he decides her life for her.


I feel sorry for all of you .... surely, you all suffer, and don't mind for it to happen so long as you are permitted to bitch about how unhappy you are

Posted by tiki33

I agree...Cut loose the dead weight

she's beautiful, she can do much better

she's not asking you whether she should keep him or leave him ... she wants to know how to get him to accept a more responsible way of treating her.

Pay attention, if you can.


No she can't do better .... she is with him by choice, which means he is her match .. finding a man who is her match is the best she can do.

If she could do better .. then she wouldn't be begging him to let her sleep on his floor ... because as she stated, she is worried to death that he might sleep with someone else .. which means she's desperate ... desperation pretty much deserves pain.


Pay attention, if you can

lol holy shit, just shut the fuck up bitch,YOUR THOUGHTS ARE FUCKING FUTILE^^^^

TypicalScorpio, you are not sick of it.


You fear to break up with him because he might act single and hit on girls.



That's just wow, at it's most.


I've told you before when you were showing your insecurity about your Virgo brother that you needed therapy .... and now we see again where your severe insecurity is showing.


You are worried to break up with him because he might hit on other girls .... that sounds like you are bordering on being a control freak.

I think it likely all stems from you feeling insecure about being in a wheelchair ... I mean this guy tells you straight up to your fucking face to insult you .... that he doesn't care if you are there with him or not ....


.... and your response is to ensure him that you can get there, and will sleep on the floor.



Seriously ..... that's desperation.



But, you must think he's your match, you must think he is meant to be yours .... why else would you stay with him for property reasons?

@P Who are you? Are you the DXP dictator? Fuck off okay, you are totally annoying LOL

I'll answer her thread just the way I please, you don't like it then ignore my post.

Take your negative toxic ass on somewhere else, spread your hateful bullshit elsewhere, miserable bitch.

as for her wanting to know how to get him to accept a more responsible way of treating her....He can't accept it and he won't accept a responsible way because that's something he has to want not her, we all pretty much covered that, pay attention already and stop being so damn delusional as if your word is Almighty God, you continue to fight and attempt to diminish and devalue what others have to say because you are so insecure, go fix your low self esteem first before trying to help someone Ms.Know It All.

Dump this dude one thing a cancerhas is empathy and by reading your,post it feltlike it was me going through the pain and I tell you I don't like how he is treating you its enough to make someone cry just get rid of him he must be some weird cancer combo cuz its all fucked up.

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Posted by PixieDust
Stand up for yourself girl! You talk about giving him space and letting him contact you instead of bothering him when he's busy.... it sounds like you let him have the run around, time to put him in his place!

I want to break up with him but I don't want to ruin his birthday...but there's also this little thing inside (probably caused from my scorpioness) that doesn't want him to be single tomorrow night...I don't want him to think "eff it, I'll just go get laid" because I'm pretty sure he won't cheat on me...but then I feel bad about that because I know that's pretty cruel and selfish of me..so I don't really know what to do.

Also I've read everyone elses replies I'm just letting them sink in a bit more before I respond to them. I really appreciate everyones input!



Don't want to ruin his birthday? He is ruining your life...well maybe not your life but the person inside you, he is making you think or feel ways that you should not feel. A man who is with you should treat you like he wants to be,with you. The term and I quote "YOU ARE LIKE PAPER WORK" means you are nothing but a chore a 9-5 and im sorry im putting it that way but it is what it is. How is it that you don't want to ruin his birthday but YOU are not part of it? he has not even invited you nor called you and him calling when he feels like it, and you feeling guily when you don't respond to him right away cause he start acting like a bitch? well that only tells me that he wants control of you and he believes that he has you under his control. I went through a similar problem except for the harsh jokes this guy is a pisces and he would text me at the end of the day, get mad when I don't text back right away curse me out when I tell him how I was feeling would'nt take the effort to see me and break up with me like every week until I realized its all about control and how they feel we are needy.but if we are wih someone then we are allowed to feel needy of attention its our right to but if we get treated like we dont exist then its time for us to disappear from their lives cause one thing you nor I should let happen is to have someone pull us around like we're puppets on a string. You need to be with someone who os going to except you for who you are and not be embarrassed and show yo

And show you off to his friends and family and treat you like their best friend.

Tiki - I agree with everything you said on page two (I pretty much agree with everything else you've said as well but yeah..) and the way you've explained it makes it so much more clear to me. I understand what you mean about me lacking respect for myself which results in him not respecting me either. I also understand what you mean about making it about me now and not all about him and what signals my actions are sending to him when I stick around even though he does what he does.

I kind of already knew these things when me talking to him didn't work...I just wasn't sure if I was being too sensitive to what he was doing or if it really was as bad as I thought. I didn't want to jump the gun and break up with him when I could have been asking too much of him or taking things the wrong way.

I knew it was either a situation that I had to leave or that I was just taking the wrong way but I needed advice from people outside of this whole thing to know for sure.

I appreciate that you can tell me how it is (where not only he's gone wrong but where I have too) and that you can say it in a way that isn't attacking me.

P-angel - You twist words that I've said too much and I think you are too quick to judge me. You're putting me down when you don't need to and yes I may have taken that with my boyfriend but I won't take it from someone on the net.

A woman never deserves to be treated badly (men don't either) and by them staying with the person does not give the other a free pass to continue on the abuse. Some people have no idea what's an acceptable way to be treated and what isn't...there are just way too many reasons why people stay with someone who abuses them to list but whatever the reason it does not mean that they deserve it.

And as for you saying that I choose this...Does this thread not show you that I actually DON'T choose this and am asking for help on how to go about it? I am trying to take the steps to respect myself enough so that others respect me the way they should. A person asking for help shouldn't be shot down for it.

I did not say I would sleep on his floor out of desperation I was saying that because I didn't want him to think that I expected a room to be cleared just for me while everyone ELSE sleeps on the floor.

I'm also not worried to death that he would sleep with someone else. I know he wouldn't cheat on me. When I said I didn't want to break up with him in case he thought "Oh well, I'll just go get laid"...that was an EMOTION I was feeling and not actual logic. That was me being mean and thinking if he doesn't want me he can't have anyone else either and that's why I said I knew it was wrong and cruel and I would never actually use that as an excuse to not break up with someone.

Wineaux - Wow, I never once thought he could be insecure. He always comes across as extremely confident and outgoing but after having to add a yes to everything else on that list except for the silence bit I'm starting to have second thoughts.

Also...taking his penis out of the equation really did work! Lol!! I'm going to have to remember that for future reference because that really did make it all so much more simple than what was going on in my head.

Posted by Crabbypatty

Don't want to ruin his birthday? He is ruining your life...well maybe not your life but the person inside you, he is making you think or feel ways that you should not feel. A man who is with you should treat you like he wants to be,with you.

What a joke.

He's not making her do anything .. isn't making her think or feels way that she shouldn't.

She makes a choice to chase him ... and you say he is making her do it?


People really are that stupid.

Posted by grinch33344
@P-Angel: Um, no... I actually suggested for her to cut that asshole and move on. Then again I know it isn't gonna be that easy for her because obviously she's so infatuated with the guy. And no, really I'm not saying that her fate is in his hands and everything is now up to him or even suggesting her to do that. I'm bringing up about him not breaking up with her just to prove that he's an asshole. So here's my theory:

TS falls in love with the guy -> guy sometimes returns affection, sometimes not -> guy is giving TS mixed signal -> break up point, but doesn't happen because none of them wants to initiate the break up (TS: because she's infatuated; guy: obviously because he's an asshole) -> I symphatize with TS, hoping that she will reach her limit soon and will be able to move on.

Let me make that clear once again: in no freaking way I'm supporting her relationship with the guy. I am sympathizing with her, because I don't think she will (or is capable of) change (ing) her mind just because we tell her to. Hopefully she does though.

Of course she can't change herself because we tell her to ... but, at least you are recognizing that it's not him .. it's her.

Of course, she isn't going to though, based on this particular situation (change) because she doesn't even recognize herself that she has created her own reality, and believes like everyone else = that he is doing somethign to her that she has not asked for.

:::: shakes head :::

That's more than anyone else is willing to recognize, based on thinking this is about their own failed relationship.

Posted by TypicalScorpio

A woman never deserves to be treated badly (men don't either) and by them staying with the person does not give the other a free pass to continue on the abuse. Some people have no idea what's an acceptable way to be treated and what isn't...there are just way too many reasons why people stay with someone who abuses them to list but whatever the reason it does not mean that they deserve it.

Excuse right there, so you don't have to hold yourself accountible. So you are going with the excuse that you don't know any better?

so you think saying that there are just too many reasons why a person would stay in an abusive relationship is reason enough for you to stay? You must mean that ... because that's what you have to say as an answer for justification.

And yes, a person who chooses to stay ..... does deserve what they get.

btw .... he's not treating you badly, he's treating you according to what you have shown him to be acceptable.

Talk about mixed signals .... you show him it's acceptable by staying with him, when you don't want him to think it's acceptable.

Posted by TypicalScorpio

And as for you saying that I choose this...Does this thread not show you that I actually DON'T choose this and am asking for help on how to go about it?

You can say whatever you choose .. a persons actions tell the truth.

so, I guess this must be your admission of telling a lie ?

In this thread you "talk" about how you secretly believe he does want you, while giving examples of how his actions show otherwise .... and you think that is showing something?

Of course you choose it .... if you didn't choose it .. you'd leave him. Instead, you CHOOSE to stay with him so you can come here and talk about it.

People in here have been saying your intelligent ... then you actually believe this kind of rubbish in that just because your tongue knows how to fork, it must mean that your actions will be rendered invisible.

:::: shakes head ::::

Posted by TypicalScorpio

I did not say I would sleep on his floor out of desperation ......

Of course it was for desperation .... because you want him to want you so fucking bad that you would do anything .. even risk yourself.

You're not alone .... 99% of the female population are this desperate to be loved, and would chase a man who doesn't want them.

They would chase them so much, so hard, so intense that they would even do what you said below ..

Posted by TypicalScorpio

.... I was saying that because I didn't want him to think that I expected a room to be cleared just for me while everyone ELSE sleeps on the floor.

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He treats you like shit because you want him to, if in doing so, he shows you one little glimmmer of attention.

You tell him that because you don't want him to think you deserve to have anything more than a floor to lay on.

Your own words above are proving everything I've said in here, and there is no doubt in my mind that that realization will fly right over your head, because you didnt' get it when you thought it yourself, so why would you get it because I'm saying it?

You give him signals to suggest that you aren't deserving of anything more than the floor, like a rug ... a doormat.

And that is exactly how he treats you ... like a rug on the floor.

He treats you like a rug on the floor because this is what you suggest to him is your worth ......



All along this is what I've been telling you ... and it looks like you have absolutely no awareness of it .. you would even say I'm judgeing you = which means you have no clue.


I don't do this to you ... you do it to yourself ... you're your own judge, if you don't want me to notice how you defy yourself, then don't do it.


You tell him that you will sleep on the floor because you don't want him to think you are worth more than the other people. These other people likely being the very family and friends that you were upset about him not introducing you to. So, not only do you want him to think your are beneath them, you want them to think you are beneath them if you fully intended on having this take place .... because they would have no choice except to pity the crippled girl who is sleeping on the floor.



Is that what this is all about?

You want pity ?

Posted by TypicalScorpio
A woman never deserves to be treated badly (men don't either) and by them staying with the person does not give the other a free pass to continue on the abuse. Some people have no idea what's an acceptable way to be treated and what isn't...there are just way too many reasons why people stay with someone who abuses them to list but whatever the reason it does not mean that they deserve it.

wrong. if you stay, you "deserve" what you get. you CHOOSE to stay, you CHOOSE the consequences.

you don't live with him. you're not dependent on him financially. you don't have kids with this guy. unless i missed it, he hasn't physically abused you. you could get out, yet you CHOOSE not to and therefore, you "deserve" everything you get.

you're looking for him to validate you. got daddy issues?

Posted by TypicalScorpio
And as for you saying that I choose this...Does this thread not show you that I actually DON'T choose this and am asking for help on how to go about it? I am trying to take the steps to respect myself enough so that others respect me the way they should. A person asking for help shouldn't be shot down for it.

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you're asking for help on how to go about what? how to leave him or how to gain self-esteem?

you want to change him. you think that people should "do unto others" when the reality is, some people just don't give a fuck and will walk all over you if you allow them.

the person that needs to change is YOU. you should've posted this in the scorpio forum because the real issue is a FIXED sign that refuses to change direction.

he's NOT the problem. maybe he'll grow up one day but that has NOTHING to do with your willingness to accept and condone abuse.

in short, he's right. you are indeed stupid.

Posted by TypicalScorpio

P-angel - You twist words that I've said too much and I think you are too quick to judge me. You're putting me down when you don't need to and yes I may have taken that with my boyfriend but I won't take it from someone on the net.

what the hell?

You present a situation for all to see and if someone says he's an abuser or a jerk, which is making a judgement, then that's ok to you .. because that is in your favour. But, if someone identifies that your behaviour is fucked up, then that's not ok, and it's being judgemental ... eventhough you put it out there for all to see just how fucked up you are.

That's like wiggling your ass walking by a construction site, and then getting outraged because a man looked at your ass.


You are so deluded that you would say the second part of that thought quoted above ... to imply that it's ok for you to take put downs from him, just not me.

BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO TAKE IT FROM HIM ....


You can't see that. You, and tiki and all the other idiots in here would tell you that you deserve more, better, that you just need to move on ... when in reality, to just move on and not hold yourself accountible for it ... blinds you even further to any truth about yourself.

If you believe you deserve better, then you won't see how by your own actions in being his doormat for him willingly .. that you caused him to treat you the way he does.

You probably told him you'd find a way there on your own and sleep on the floor .. it probably wasn't a comment you made in here ... you probably told him, with absolutely no clue that to do is encouraging him to think you're nothing of any value to yourself.

because if you could comprehend that .... then I wouldn't have to tell you.

Dear TypScorp - P-Angel ALWAYS goes to far, don't take it personally.

I've recently decided she's trying to mend a hole in her own heart by going overboard on others. She can be harsh and painful when you are already vulnerable and I specifically think she smells the blood and goes after it like a great white shark.

Goes something like this....

P-Angel is in a bad horrible relationship for years, gets beat up by her man, takes it, does a number on her own self worth and self esteem.

At some point she leaves this relationship or is left, the details are unclear to me, but it doesn't really matter.

Someone along the way gives her some insight into the battered woman syndrome. She has an eye opening experience about the motivations and reasoning to why she was in her dysfunctional relationship.

However, she never fully healed from the experience, thus her form of healing is to troll these boards and tell women how they are pathetic and should know better and should never, ever, ever take shit from anyone. However, she can't say all these things without being abusive.... Why you ask? Because she still carries abuse around with her.

So she types and types making all these long posts talking her "holier than thou" talk and then she goes to bed patting herself on the back for knowing better and being smarter than all women who settle for less than they are worth. She thinks to herself that after "showing you the way" she is now absolved from all the pain she stills suffers from her abusive relationship.

The first rule to understanding abuse is that it is a cycle that is very rarely broken. Clearly, P-Angel is still a victim. Some posters here on these boards give her kudos for "telling it like it is", and I've even seen girls being told to look past her condescending tone and see that she is really trying to help them. To open their eyes.... what a fucking joke, it's really all about her and her own selfish pain. So few realize the pattern that is explained here.

Cliffnotes version -

1. She was abused.
2. Abuse stops.
3. Healing never fully took place.
4. She is now enjoying being the abuser because it subsides the pain her own inner victim feels.

In sum, her shit really has nothing to do with you.

P.S. I'm not going to weigh in on your relationship. I truly don't have an opinion.

wtf does someone else's personal issues have to do with the OP?

what is the point of posting therat's supposed history here except to demonstrate that you follow her posts like she's a living soap opera?

you don't like the bitch, FINE! but damnit, do all of you stupid shits have to regurgitate her supposed history any and every time she posts on a thread? do you think you're "winning" by doing so?

fuck, i mean i been on this site longer than some of you and don't know nearly as much as you fuckers do. you're talking about shit that i'm sure she posted god knows how long ago which means that you're probably in PM world gossiping like delusional e-bitches.

this is a forum. people are entitled to their opinions. if you don't like, then don't like but the "who this person really is" recaps are getting old.

i mean, it's really flattering that you all care so much about some e-strangers history but then again, it's pretty darn sad too.

Here's this handy, dandy little visual image I pulled off the web to futher illistrate my point....



Abuse - P-Angel abuses a young girl here on the boards by saying all said here in this thread (and countless, countless others).

Guilt - She feels instantly guilty for being such a cold hearted woman (else she's just a sociopath).

Rationalization - She rationalizes she is doing it for your own good. She is really "helping" you.

Normal - She feels a sense of relief, things are normal because she doesn't feel the guilt and she even feels elated for being so wonderful to "show you" the error in your ways.

Fantasy - She fantasizes on how great it would have been to have been able to say and do the things she should have done to the terrible man who beat her.

Planning - She now realizes she's not done, she needs to feel this elation again because it is slipping away as she remembers the actual abuse she suffered and how she wasn't able to do anything about it.

Setup - She looks for another thread on the board with a young girls story.

Abuse - .............

Anyone picking up what I am putting down?

wow...obsessed much?

therat must have really read your ass correctly for you to go to such an extent to harbor a grudge for so long. you remind me of a certain critter with a stinger who shall not be named.

Caligula - True. It is a site filled with opinions, even yours and your inventive name calling. My father told me that a person who drips profanity from their mouth is often pitiable because they lack the vocabulary to express their point any other way.

However, when someone GOES AFTER a girl who came here seeking help....

Call it my mother bird, but I cannot stand to see someone berate another person like that. She needs to understand where it is all coming from. I can remember what it felt like to be on the other side of a P-Angel rant. I was truly at home crying in my cheerios. Hearing her words at such a time FUCKING hurt me (sorry pops, but it is fitting there 😉). Like really, really, really hurt me. I can still look back and feel that same pain. It was vile and awful.

I'll not let that happen to another girl when I can prevent it and at least give them some insight.

so you can't stand to see someone berated so you in turn berate? you're such a fucking genius!

oh, and tell your father i said he's a fucking asshole shit stained cocksucker for raising such a stupid hypocritical bitch...in a bad wig.

WAIT! you CRIED?!?

truth hurts. she told you exactly what you needed and refused to hear and i bet in the end, she was right.

weak ass women will bite at women who try to lead the down the right path but will suck the skin of a nut as long as dude rubs your belly right.

how many female friends have you ex'd out of your life, while crying in your cheerios, because although they were right, you simply didn't like their "tone" and the fact that they had the decency to tell you to leave the bastard alone?

My story isn't applicable here and I'm not going to hijack her thread. Those who remember know what happened. And yes, women cry, they have emotions, they feel things along this learning path of life. Shocker I know.

I'll not play with you today Caligula. Take your dirty mouth elsewhere to stir the pot or stay here.... it's a free world and forum as you mentioned. I'm out, but I'll surely pass along your regards to my father.

lol, you already hijacked it dumbass but yeah, don't let the door hitcha!

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Anyone picking up what I am putting down?

YES! makes all too much sense

how stupid are YOU?

it's not my job to saveaho and unfortunately, there are plenty of stupid whores, like yourself, who have people "helping" them through their self-inflicted drama only for those same stupid whores to repeat their stupid behavior over and over again. ie, you've done it twice now so please tell me where did all that "help" get your sad, sorry pitiful ass? why don't you tell us about the aqua again and how you show men your kitty but you don't let them sample it.

anyhoo...

you don't cure a crackhead by giving them cookies but you sure can smackaho into reality.

no, you're the dumbfuck who thinks you can change someone by virtue of someone else.

is HE here?

you don't know this man. you only know what this bitch has told you and that should enough. SHE is here. this is HER issue. SHE'S responsible for her own self-worth, not some "man." if she's dumb enough to throw away her remaining self-respect, so be it. she clearly wants to and that's what makes her foolish.

given you mimic her behavior, i hope you know that this is EXACTLY why you got your ass whooped. you look for your value in other people. that's why you denigrate yourself on your profile, disrespect your parents and play the perpetual victim. you NEED someone to tell you that you're "somebody" and that's exactly what makes you a piece of shit.

so, step to me however you want. you're still a lying, vindictive, spiteful, manipulative, tease.