bkbella86
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Posted by Alley08What good times? You guys had 2 dates. It’s really easy for someone to portray a certain persona when you don’t see them everyday. Words are just words.Posted by bkbella86I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?click to expand
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Mm, i understand your position.
Anyways, why dont you just tell him something like this, "Are you in it just for sex?"
If he says no, then ask again, "Well, then I told you that we should get to know each other first before having sex."
If he reminded you again that he didnt want to rush having a relationship with you, why don't you just say, "well i dont wanna rush having sex with you either."
I did say something similar when we had the fight the other day. He said "you need to be more trustworthy of people and let this imaginary guard down it's a turn off, I wouldn't sleep around on you or date other girls i'm not a player, i'm loyal. I get irritated because i want to take things to the next level. Sex is important to me so when you say things like you're not comfortable, i start to think i'm wasting my time and if that offends you then i'm not the one for you" Those were his exact words click to expand
It does sound like he's not playing around here but he is not being understanding.
I keep my guards up too like you are and of course we just need to, we cannot simply give them trust easily, we need to be more comfortable with them, to feel at ease with them first then sex happens he can have it how he wants it no problem.
But he needs to understand us too.
Okay, then try to find a middle point. Obviousy he needs to have sex with you the soonest. Now how long do you think it will take you to trust him enough to have sex with him? Say in 3 mnths time, then cut it to 1,5 mnths getting closer to him. But butter 1,5mnths for me is too soon. Damn. But you get my point. click to expand
LAST thing we talked i said to him how long are you willing to wait for me? he said "preferably not too long" soooo click to expand
Are you prepared for the worst?
Is it possible for you to look for other dates? click to expand
Not really, i'm pretty sensitive. Does it sound that bad? I can look for other dates, but i don't have enough time to invest looking. click to expand
What sound that bad?
You needing more time to give him sex? Nope, not at all.
Him demanding you to have sex with him and the way he expresses himself, yeah maybe he is serious but he's not considerate. And tbh I'm not a fan of inconsiderate guys.
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I'm not either to be honest, i don't want to be pushed. He won't mind letting go if i tell him that i can't do it so soon i know that, that's why i'm scared, but i mean i shouldn't i know, i just have a hard time letting go click to expand
I'm running out of what to say around this matter right now..
Can I know what is it that makes you like him so much? click to expand
haha i'm so sorry i'm making this complicated for you, i overthink things myself till i'm sick. I'm not in love i just feel chimestry because i don't have many options atm.
I'm putting and end to this right now i told him "i want to wait for at least 2 months, if that's too much for you then i'm sorry" so we'll see click to expand
That's good to hear that. It's important to stand your ground, but I like to believe to have the ability to make compromise is necessary as well.
I hope things will work on your favor. click to expand
Also what do yo think of his answer ? He said "you can wait as long as you want but just so you know i'll be dating other girls in the meantime too" click to expand
It doesn’t matter what we think, what do YOU think? You have to pay attention to how it makes you feel.
In my opinion, his response answered your question regarding if you think he’s all about sex. If sex was not his priority/motive, waiting would not be such an issue. click to expand
Right..... But i mean wouldn't he just say no that doesn't work for me and neither for you BYE!! but instead he said he will date in the meanwhile which is what i've been asking him to do since the beginning well i'm sure he did but didn't tell me except for one girl! click to expand
No he wouldn’t do that. Because he’s a man, and men like to have their cake and eat it too.
As long as you are waiting around, he will allow you to wait around as he entertains other women and waits to try to get in your panties in another 3 months. And I bet in 3 months he still won’t be ready for a relationship. Lol
Be honest with yourself about if you are ok with him dating other women. And if you are okay with it, then there really isn’t a problem. Different strokes for different folks I suppose 🤷🏻♀️ But don’t encourage a man to do something unless you really want him to do it.
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He told me twice when he was mad the other night that "maybe i'm not the one for you then and that we're different" I am fine that he dates around i even told him this, i said we don't have to have a label right away, but at least once we start having sex you should stop doing it with other girls, and he said he will and that he will visit me every week when things get serious (he lives in a different city like 4 hours away) click to expand
Ok you’re a libra so I can understand you’re probably less possessive than I am 😂 but yeah I think it’s a good idea to hold off on having sex until you know he is ready to be with you and ready to give you what you want. The problem is, (and I know you already know this) but obviously as women we can become attached after having sex and sometimes logic just goes out the window. There is nothing wrong or malicious about you withholding sex until you are ready. Don’t let this guy or “todays” way of thinking make you feel like you need to lower your standards. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Moonbutter100% thisPosted by Alley08Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expandPosted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expand
100% this
They say on average people have 7 failed relationships before finding “the one”. Sometimes you have to kiss some frogs before you find your prince.
Moonbutter is right. Being with someone who genuinely likes you and is all about you is so much better than this convoluted nonsense. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expandPosted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expandclick to expand
Posted by bkbella86Posted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86Posted by Alley08Posted by LadyNeptune
When a man demands sex (first of all ewww no) and you tell him you are a) uncomfortable/not ready and b) need the security of a relationship first. If he really cared about you as a person he would be sensitive to your needs and attempt to accommodate them.
He told you at the beginning he was looking for a serious relationship but now has done a 180? Something doesn’t add up...
Also loyal people don’t go around repeating that they are loyal/not players all the time. That’s just not something you have to say, it’s shown in actions. His actions was to treetrunk another female while dating you. I don’t believe he’s stopped that behavior either.
I know i found it annoying how he kept saying it, but he only said it everytime after i tell him how the guys i dated were players and ditched me easily. click to expand
Why would you tell him that? How old are you? Don’t ever tell a man that other men played you and ditched you. If they ask why if ended you can say something like they stopped making you happy. You don’t have to share everything with a man, I don’t care if he’s your great love or husband. Keep somethings to yourself. click to expand
Oh gosh did i mess this up too, i thought it will make him aware how hurt i felt and so he will avoid it click to expand
I’m sorry for my tone. I just want to help you avoid some heartbreak. You didn’t mess up, you didn’t know. But when you know better you have to do better. I get your logic and once thought that way too. I think revealing things like that has the opposite effect. They start thinking why would other men ditch you? Is she not as valuable or desirable as she appears? If she got played by other men, then maybe I can play her too? Not all men do this but some.
Keep your boundaries and that will have a much stronger affect then than revealing past hurts.
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Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
What good times? You guys had 2 dates. It’s really easy for someone to portray a certain persona when you don’t see them everyday. Words are just words. click to expandclick to expand
Posted by Moonbutter
What are his placements? Moon, Venus, mars?
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Mm, i understand your position.
Anyways, why dont you just tell him something like this, "Are you in it just for sex?"
If he says no, then ask again, "Well, then I told you that we should get to know each other first before having sex."
If he reminded you again that he didnt want to rush having a relationship with you, why don't you just say, "well i dont wanna rush having sex with you either."
I did say something similar when we had the fight the other day. He said "you need to be more trustworthy of people and let this imaginary guard down it's a turn off, I wouldn't sleep around on you or date other girls i'm not a player, i'm loyal. I get irritated because i want to take things to the next level. Sex is important to me so when you say things like you're not comfortable, i start to think i'm wasting my time and if that offends you then i'm not the one for you" Those were his exact words click to expand
It does sound like he's not playing around here but he is not being understanding.
I keep my guards up too like you are and of course we just need to, we cannot simply give them trust easily, we need to be more comfortable with them, to feel at ease with them first then sex happens he can have it how he wants it no problem.
But he needs to understand us too.
Okay, then try to find a middle point. Obviousy he needs to have sex with you the soonest. Now how long do you think it will take you to trust him enough to have sex with him? Say in 3 mnths time, then cut it to 1,5 mnths getting closer to him. But butter 1,5mnths for me is too soon. Damn. But you get my point. click to expand
LAST thing we talked i said to him how long are you willing to wait for me? he said "preferably not too long" soooo click to expand
Are you prepared for the worst?
Is it possible for you to look for other dates? click to expand
Not really, i'm pretty sensitive. Does it sound that bad? I can look for other dates, but i don't have enough time to invest looking. click to expand
What sound that bad?
You needing more time to give him sex? Nope, not at all.
Him demanding you to have sex with him and the way he expresses himself, yeah maybe he is serious but he's not considerate. And tbh I'm not a fan of inconsiderate guys.
click to expand
I'm not either to be honest, i don't want to be pushed. He won't mind letting go if i tell him that i can't do it so soon i know that, that's why i'm scared, but i mean i shouldn't i know, i just have a hard time letting go click to expand
I'm running out of what to say around this matter right now..
Can I know what is it that makes you like him so much? click to expand
haha i'm so sorry i'm making this complicated for you, i overthink things myself till i'm sick. I'm not in love i just feel chimestry because i don't have many options atm.
I'm putting and end to this right now i told him "i want to wait for at least 2 months, if that's too much for you then i'm sorry" so we'll see click to expand
That's good to hear that. It's important to stand your ground, but I like to believe to have the ability to make compromise is necessary as well.
I hope things will work on your favor. click to expand
Also what do yo think of his answer ? He said "you can wait as long as you want but just so you know i'll be dating other girls in the meantime too" click to expand
It doesn’t matter what we think, what do YOU think? You have to pay attention to how it makes you feel.
In my opinion, his response answered your question regarding if you think he’s all about sex. If sex was not his priority/motive, waiting would not be such an issue. click to expand
Right..... But i mean wouldn't he just say no that doesn't work for me and neither for you BYE!! but instead he said he will date in the meanwhile which is what i've been asking him to do since the beginning well i'm sure he did but didn't tell me except for one girl! click to expand
No he wouldn’t do that. Because he’s a man, and men like to have their cake and eat it too.
As long as you are waiting around, he will allow you to wait around as he entertains other women and waits to try to get in your panties in another 3 months. And I bet in 3 months he still won’t be ready for a relationship. Lol
Be honest with yourself about if you are ok with him dating other women. And if you are okay with it, then there really isn’t a problem. Different strokes for different folks I suppose 🤷🏻♀️ But don’t encourage a man to do something unless you really want him to do it.
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He told me twice when he was mad the other night that "maybe i'm not the one for you then and that we're different" I am fine that he dates around i even told him this, i said we don't have to have a label right away, but at least once we start having sex you should stop doing it with other girls, and he said he will and that he will visit me every week when things get serious (he lives in a different city like 4 hours away) click to expand
Ok you’re a libra so I can understand you’re probably less possessive than I am 😂 but yeah I think it’s a good idea to hold off on having sex until you know he is ready to be with you and ready to give you what you want. The problem is, (and I know you already know this) but obviously as women we can become attached after having sex and sometimes logic just goes out the window. There is nothing wrong or malicious about you withholding sex until you are ready. Don’t let this guy or “todays” way of thinking make you feel like you need to lower your standards. click to expand
For me, my logic goes out the window when i start making out not even sex, that's if i like him a lot.
I never let any guy before get it, even though i got pressured a lot by a couple, but i kept fighting back about what i believe in. lol yes being a libra is such a pain sometimes i can't make up my mind and i study my decision carefully before i make it. You guys are helping me click to expand
So are you still a virgin? click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterExactly, it is confusing. Not anymore though. I do agree that we have to go through a lot of guys first and get broken and get up again to find that special one. It makes me sad that he doesn't see the good in me, but oh well click to expandPosted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterI don't honestly know, i know he's a jan cap that's all click to expand
What are his placements? Moon, Venus, mars?click to expand
Posted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08It’s not about him seeing the good in you... it’s about the finding the person that’s RIGHT for you. Always remember that. I know that Now after dating losers, liars, manipulators and now finding the right one. YOU decide what you want, need and the right guy will show up. click to expandPosted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expand
Exactly, it is confusing. Not anymore though. I do agree that we have to go through a lot of guys first and get broken and get up again to find that special one. It makes me sad that he doesn't see the good in me, but oh well click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterThat's right, it takes time to find that one special guy. Ugh it's very tiring to be honest to date forever and keep getting your heart broken over and over and over. Oh well... No unfortunately i can't remember, he told me once but i forgot :/ click to expandPosted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expand
Exactly, it is confusing. Not anymore though. I do agree that we have to go through a lot of guys first and get broken and get up again to find that special one. It makes me sad that he doesn't see the good in me, but oh well click to expand
It’s not about him seeing the good in you... it’s about the finding the person that’s RIGHT for you. Always remember that. I know that Now after dating losers, liars, manipulators and now finding the right one. YOU decide what you want, need and the right guy will show up. click to expandclick to expand
Posted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Trust me, I get it. LDR is a no for me because of the complications. Find someone local. What are your must-haves for a guy? When you think about what you really liked or wish some guy was like... what qualities are you looking for? For ex: one of mine was I wanted a guy to be happy every time he saw me. I wanted someone very masculine but sensitive. Etc click to expandPosted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expand
Exactly, it is confusing. Not anymore though. I do agree that we have to go through a lot of guys first and get broken and get up again to find that special one. It makes me sad that he doesn't see the good in me, but oh well click to expand
It’s not about him seeing the good in you... it’s about the finding the person that’s RIGHT for you. Always remember that. I know that Now after dating losers, liars, manipulators and now finding the right one. YOU decide what you want, need and the right guy will show up. click to expand
That's right, it takes time to find that one special guy. Ugh it's very tiring to be honest to date forever and keep getting your heart broken over and over and over. Oh well... No unfortunately i can't remember, he told me once but i forgot :/ click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterI'm the same i'm not fussy at all, honesty and being faithful are very important, i like someone who makes me laugh, soft on the inside but tough on the outside, intelligent, affectionate, patientPosted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Posted by MoonbutterPosted by Alley08Posted by bkbella86
Girl his intentions are so clear. He is so full of butter. Why are you wasting your time?
I honestly don't know, i keep hoping that sex isn't all he wants, i keep remembering all the good times we shared. But i mean you guys are helping me a lot to see the bigger picture. click to expand
Look, I can tell u from lots of experience that I’ve come to understand sometimes we have “relationships” or what have you to understand what we need and want in our lives and to gain that experience so that when we find “the one” we truly know and there is no mixed feelings. Going one step further I would even say if you really think about the good you like in each relationship and what you didn’t like, then you are already prepping yourself and putting it in the universe for that person to come into your life. This guy is in your life as a learning lesson, not because you are necessarily meant to be with him. So far the foundation is confusion, disrespect and manipulation so what kind of relationship do you think that would be? click to expand
Exactly, it is confusing. Not anymore though. I do agree that we have to go through a lot of guys first and get broken and get up again to find that special one. It makes me sad that he doesn't see the good in me, but oh well click to expand
It’s not about him seeing the good in you... it’s about the finding the person that’s RIGHT for you. Always remember that. I know that Now after dating losers, liars, manipulators and now finding the right one. YOU decide what you want, need and the right guy will show up. click to expand
That's right, it takes time to find that one special guy. Ugh it's very tiring to be honest to date forever and keep getting your heart broken over and over and over. Oh well... No unfortunately i can't remember, he told me once but i forgot :/ click to expand
Trust me, I get it. LDR is a no for me because of the complications. Find someone local. What are your must-haves for a guy? When you think about what you really liked or wish some guy was like... what qualities are you looking for? For ex: one of mine was I wanted a guy to be happy every time he saw me. I wanted someone very masculine but sensitive. Etc click to expandclick to expandclick to expand
Soo out of all those qualities which does he have?
Posted by Alley08
We've been talking for 3 months, went on 2 dates (due to distance).
At first he said he's looking for a serious relationship and i was like me too. Then lately he started dropping hints that he will need sex soon as he has a high sex drive and i said i want to feel comfortable first and that i only have sex if i'm in a relationship, he said he doesn't want to feel pressured to get into a relationship that quickly just to get sex, it should come naturally!! I told him to go sleep with other girls while he waits for me. He refused and said he's not a player and doesn't want to sleep with other girls while dating me, even though he did tell me he hooked up with one girl, while i was dating another guy too (that was weeks after our 1st date). So we had a fight about something else and he snapped and said "sorry that i have a strong desire for sex i don't want to bring this topic up all the time. I'm sexually active and a man after all, i want to take things to the next level, if i don't get it i get depressed, and if you want to wait so long maybe i'm not the one for you" i don't know if he said it because he was mad or not!! We solved things after but this stuck in my head, he told me due to distance we should then spice things up and like talk dirty or something, On our 2nd date he asked if i want to see his place i was like sure, then on our way we made out and he instantly asked "we can hook up quickly if you want" then before i say anything he said i'm sorry forget about it and looked like he regret saying it.
I don't know what to think of this whole thing. I'm worried cuz i don't want to be fwb.


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Keep your boundaries and that will have a much stronger affect then than revealing past hurts.